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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bittrex is Holding My Funds - Support Not Answering - Bittrex SCAM on: November 04, 2017, 06:34:04 AM
At least allow withdrawal, as long as no way to trade in US base exchange.

It would be illegal for them to do so. So they wont do it. They wont tell you they wont do it either because they can literally tell you nothing without also breaking the law. They will just keep denying and leading you on or block you outright. Sanctioned county person is bad money. It is seized and held forever.
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: bittrex hijack funds, disabled & banned accounts - be awar from Virtual Pirates on: November 04, 2017, 04:14:49 AM
hi
fisrt of all , one day i wanted login to my account after login i saw a message that say my account is disabled
no reason

second, after some days i wanted login to see my account is still is disabled or not biut douldnt login. it said The two-factor authentication code you specified is incorrect

third, today i visited site and saw this:

Error 1009 Ray ID: 3b6f9a9fea8f2762 • 2017-11-01
Access denied
What happened?
The owner of this website (bittrex.com) has banned the country or region your IP address is in (IR) from accessing this website.

im glad that i had withdraw funds before theft. but you all be aware from this Pirates.
I heard many account disabled. entire world not just iran

Your Iranian on an American exchange guess what... Sanctions you'll never get your money back.
3  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bittrex is Holding My Funds - Support Not Answering - Bittrex SCAM on: November 04, 2017, 03:59:56 AM
oh yeah bittrex is really making things harder and harder
I started using them like less than a month ago after poloniex stopped dealing with my country , used them just to buy clams since it's the only exchange left with good volume to buy and sell clams
before the fork I was able to withdraw more than 0.2 worth of btc a day  , don't know how much excatly cause I was newbie in the site and didn't know where to check their limits
after the fork I was trying to withdraw 40 clams and then kept getting the message that I reached the limits and I need to wait 24 hours or verify
asked one of my friends if this is an error and he told me where to check the limits and found that my new limits is 0.025 btc a day  Cheesy

so I tried to verify my account , their verification system based on info and mobile number failed so I tried to go for enhanced verification
but everytime I submit my passport and my photo their system refuse it and says that there are missing info in my documents which is not true at all all photos are complete and clear

tried to reach their support many times , I told them that I'm ok with verifying my account but I'm not able to so asked them if it's ok if they can verify it manually like I send them my photos through the ticket and they check it manually
I kept getting the same message over and over again , that they can't verify manually and that I need to verify through the system in their site
but all my trys were failures , so I gave up after they kept sending me the same message over and over again

they need to be more helpful for sure

Likely if Polo wont take you as a customer Bittrex cannot either. Their system is nicely telling you to move on. Both are US based exchanges and have the same regulations.
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BITTREX.COM 1.000.000$ disabled on: November 04, 2017, 03:56:26 AM
My Opinion on why this guy is locked out is 100% because he is in the Ukraine. Bittrex is a US exchange and cant legally tell this guy that they cannot give him his money. So boom the US government probably owns your money now. If you use a US exchange from any country with any sort of sanction actions expect to never see your money and never no why.
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: July 10, 2017, 01:37:21 AM
Could be. Thinking about it it is notoriously watched money if it moved to any exchange it would be seized.

By whom?

If it were moved to an online exchange outside of US jurisdiction exactly why would it be seized?

If Pauldemort or anyone else moved it in large chunks they might need AML/KYC thus will avoid it but there must be many ways for the person/people in control of those coins to grab the stolen money and have fun just like The Donald did when he grabbed them pussycats  Shocked

Good point but any of the ones that can cash that kind of coin out are all in communication. There are side channels between most of them (Skype/IRC) to talk that kind of stuff even exchanges you would not think communicate do (BTC-E is probably one of the better ones for communication like that FYI). End result is you have to get that cash out in your name so I doubt they ever will.
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: July 10, 2017, 01:16:54 AM
It was BitJohn quoted on this topic before from years ago about the cold storage practices.
More than likely what he was told..

Imagine all of our surprise when we finally found out.... To not use cold storage is crazy.

Vern is the one who should be doing the explaining here.
And his hiding from this does not look very good.

Agreed though I doubt he will post ever. He was never on here prior and has no real reason to get on now culprit or not.

I think Vern was the hacker most likely and he had Mullick help him with the Lucky7coin shenanigans.
It could have played out differently but that was my first thought when I heard about the hack.
Why would Mullick be running downloaded new shitcoin binaries? When he said in the past he compiles them.
And that bit of hacked code was not in the coin on launch either..
It was a newer commit where that IRC code was added.
A lot of it doesn't seem right for the hacker story..
If Vern was infected why did he not state publicly what malware was installed on his network?
All known malware is identified by name.
And what security was he running?

Mullick regularly complained about not being able to implement things that he felt would be best practices. Many coins were compiled and launched by Paul directly not sure if that was one, but I know Mullick was pretty savy and it is really just lazy not too...

And it goes on and on..
Such as Vern claimed he did not know who to contact about it.
But BitJohn mentioned AML related requests on them..
Uhhh duh?
Any agency would redirect him to the FBI etc.
Had he made the call evidence could have been collected.. On his PC's.

On the AML note I will point out again Polo and Coinbase both have similar limits.

And as the guy said earlier.. The other exchanges could have been alerted and money frozen etc.

From what I have seen the money never made it to an exchange... Though I 100% agree that if everyone was alerted all of them would have watched and intercepted.

So yeah best i can tell Vern and maybe others also were behind it.
This one for me is easy... CEO fled the country with supposedly no money and no notice. (From what I know he left on a business trip and never returned.)

What baffles me is the money never moved.
And will it?

No sane person would delete or lose the private keys.
I contend someone is deliberately avoiding touching them but could.

Could be. Thinking about it it is notoriously watched money if it moved to any exchange it would be seized.
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: July 08, 2017, 04:23:44 AM
Spoetnik,

I occasionally still read this thread every few months, and what you just said is the first time I felt the need to reply. I think you hit the nail on the head so I have replied in line below.

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I've posted that on here before and I lean towards him moving to South America or some shit.

Nah he is probably in China still.

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I think he would avoid touching the coins out of fear of them getting tracked and then having been found.

I don't think he stole them. With that said I also think whoever did got scared, and tossed the keys.

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I posted here long ago I think he got sick of it all and wanted out.
That was the driving force..
Coupled with a changing climate I harped on with his chat box..
He seen what I seen and cashed out and walked and did what many do when the titanic hits an iceberg..

Spoetnik hit that on the head.

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And that is rip off shit on the way out the door.

Define.... If you mean compliance look at polo and coinbase everyone is doing the same things some slower than others... All US based are being compelled. Read the other threads. I only defend it because in the final days all of us were trying to keep the government happy.

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I was watching since month one bud..
I know these people a hell of a lot better than you do.

You damn sure were since day one my friend. I remember you from the first days, and always respected your opinions. If I was able at the time you were removed to bring you back I would have... I always have always welcomed you to express your opinions and been up for debate.

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Vern did not like the spotlight or dealing with people publicly..
He went on his chat box a couple times a year.
In video interviews he was shy and awkward.

Spot on


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He's not a bad guy and was always trust worthy until the end.

We all felt that way.

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He made a mistake.. One of opportunity.

I do think he did not steal the coin in question (the hack)... I also feel he stole lots of money in other ways (embezzlement) the evidence on that is clear.

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Making him out to be a monster who planned this scam out from day one is stupid.
He meant well but wanted out.. So he closed up shop.

Agreed though in the final years I'm hesitant to speak out on his intention.

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And I too would have probably stolen all the money in the bank before I closed it.
I don't see that as surprising really.
Have you all sat on millions in money that you could take with no one watching?

Before I resigned one of my biggest questions was how was he paying for the China trips when were struggling to pay the rent?

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He is guilty I think but let's be real.. He meant to run a service but things went to shit.

Agreed

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Many of you are forgetting when the so called hack happened crypto coin prices were dropping for 2 year steady more and more.. And users were drying up at Cryptsy.
So the situation from his own business perspective had to be fairly bleak.

It was and was not if managed properly... Cryptsy would have easily survived even the hack... To much money was pulled out of the company, and not reinvested in my opinion... Not to mention the personal wealth he had already...

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I subscribe to the theory that he got sick of this shit and walked away..
He sure as fucking hell would not be the only one either..
I dumped all my BTC as It hit 1k each knowing the feeding frenzy and scammy coin cloning antics and rush of shit head NOOBS piling in would cause a deep recession... I kept saying it on Cryptsy chat and I know Vern heard me saying it.
Me and Vern walked at the same time pretty much..

Agreed

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And I was right.

You were

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Prices of alt's were decimated until mid 2016 when a new rush of retards rushed in fer teh roiz.
Even BTC hit sub 300 as I seen coming a mile away.

Agreed and still happening. I will insert here Cryptsy, and employees made ZERO alts. The ones we did were all pretty public,and all pre-employment there were like 12 at the time. The rest I have a good hunch where they started... IPO's ICO's

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Many of you are off base on this clueless..

Agreed.

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I think the moral of this story is money corrupts.
Vern started with good intentions but..

Agreed

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He likely had personal reasons coupled with his view that crypto was dying..
It was guy's.. NOOB's here now will have no clue that happened.
They are wrapped up in the new fantasy land of never ending raining ICO SCAM money now.
But i watched as BTC and every Altcoin was decimated for YEARS.
BITCOIN ITSELF WAS SUB $300 Instead of over a grand and rising..
User growth slowed to a crawl and many left..
Altcoin prices were slaughtered leaving tons of broke bag holders.
The climate in crypto was vastly different than it was now.
There is no way that did not factor into Vern's decision to leave.
And look at this way.. Guilty or not he still decided to leave when he did!

If he managed to give a shit for a few more months and fund his company... You still wouldnt know it happened. Ill throw in here that Im a believer that most of the exchanges have been hacked and either they just refunded themselves externally or are just able to cover the losses.


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I also posted on here why I quit and how I figured Vern agreed with me.
Even BitJohn said he did when back in the start of 2014 he was still arguing..
That shitcoin support is good.
It's not.

Spoetnik was right on that note I do not even support Bitcoin anymore.

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It will collapse and what I kept saying all over is it's hard to feel sorry for greedy worthless selfish short sighted losers who show up here raping crypto for quick chump change profits.
Which is who flooded into crypto.. Not supporters.
But open mouth breathing baboons hell bent on profiting off of anything that was paying out.

When Cryptsy started it was about the miners about the not rich folks... That is why many of us joined. I was customer 14... It was also when we had like 12 cryptos... After that the competition was fierce if you did not add it they would. I recommended many Etherium was my last we didn't add it... In my opinion that was the beginning of the end. Paul was not around to implement it and only he could add coins.

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Cryptsy pandered to these idiots while I kept lecturing them..
Would you give your kids candy every night for dinner?
Over and over all the Cryptsy guys cited "user demand"
So they could reap the reward while the going was good..
Then the kids got cavities..
I warned them not to pander to STUPID people.
They would not listen then it went to shit..

Spoetnik has always been the GOOD voice of reason. Not everyone in the company felt that way...

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At that exact time Vern was doing his shit.. Setting up his exit.

Likely

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This is why pandering is bad.
The people being pandered to will always turn on you eventually.
None of these people care about Cryptsy.
They are quislings.. Turn coats..
Shady money grubbing brats interested interested in one thing.
And that sure as fuck ain't supporting crypto.

Agreed

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So do I feel sorry for them?
Nope.. Not really.

I think I can say for anyone that worked at Cryptsy that the EMPLOYEES all feel sorry for them. The environment for 98% of the staff was let crypto thrive and help the people... There may have been a guy or two that were painful internally to deal with...

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Many knew better and refused to listen all the way up until Vern had to actually close the doors.

Because they were peddling their shit crypto to the end. When I say the end they began again the next day right where they left off and continue to do so.

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No matter how bad it got there was cheerleaders hell bent on sucking cock and crying FUD online.

Some of that burden we the former employees painfully accept as our fault... We believed what we were saying. Like Horus has stated numerous times the books were cooked... It was not until the final days I got to see some books, and I resigned. On that note I fully expected Paul to cover the losses with his personal wealth at the time I left. He could have covered it all...

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So they could exploit people trying to leave by standing in the middle of the Doge coin exit ramp.
Those same assholes there at the end buying all the Doge coins to arb with are now playing victim on a class action lawsuit.. Looking for sympathy and demonizing Vern and staff.

Doge coin issues have been replicated on other exchanges at this point with Ether... To much load for such a virgin infrastructure to handle. I still stand by Doge had a NASCAR Spoetnik haha.

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They too must share some blame!

Beyond you who saw the writing on the wall for Alt coins early I'd agree we all do...

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I warned people loud when GOX was pulling the same shit too..
It played out the exact same.

If only we had talked more... But on that note in retrospect many of the same things led to the Cryptsy fall. Again I will say from what I know of the other exchanges they are run in the same manner so buyer beware.

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You all don't learn.
Or accept responsibility.
You only learn when you get bit. I think I can speak for many when I say that its been 24 months since I have traded or touched crypto... Crypto to me is poker or slots... Maybe with worse odds.

B
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ut it does not bother me that much because..
Many of you are cocky mouthy little mouthy brats.
I have been on the internet longer than many brats here have even been alive.. Jiggling their little dick holsters at me.

Preach brother

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There is no age requirement here guys.
Which is why Polo shut down the chat box.
Stupid brats running wild.. Controlling crypto.

They shut down the chat box to cover issues from the public eye... We did it when our servers couldnt handled the load in the early days. I say we but it was not an option. I fought to get it back.

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And Cryptsy was giving the keys to drive to the kidiot profiteers.
So I think if crypto kept getting better Vern would still be running Cryptsy right now.

I agree

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Anyway..
I think the key may be to look at TX's between Cryptsy and Cryptsy China.
He had to have funded it and that should have some links to uncover..
That might shed more light on this and maybe even expose where he is.

Probably though I bet hes in China and living well and not off the hacked coins. Again this is my biggest issue with the whole thing is EVEN with the hack Paul could have just fixed it out of hide he was wealthy pre-Cryptsy from other ventures. He had the wealth and left us the employees in the dark.

On a personal note I apologize to anyone harmed that feels that myself or any of the Cryptsy staff (Let me change that to most staff) led you to invest or do anything with Paul, and Cryptsy. In the final days we the staff were not in contact with Paul 99% of the time. It was a headless company running on data provided by a false interface. We tried to improve, and generate revenue to keep it running.. The new look and some of the other things was us striving to try and keep the company running with very little input from the boss who was in China. Working on Cryptsy China.

To answer the why most Cryptsy Staff don't speak out? They don't live in Canada with the Maple Leaf shield and do not want to be Paul's fall guy. Shout out to Horus for continuing to be an outstanding guy and earning back everyone's respect he deserves it.

Lastly for the conspiracy theorists. The only people at that time with the power to steal the coins internally were:

Logan - Admittedly had all the passwords over time in the data center. Let go for being unstable (Likely Drug Related) With that said I do not think he took the coins he did not understand wallets, and Crypto and from what I know he still in the US with no money..

Mullick - Only had wallet access to most wallets. When wallets ran empty We complained to Mullick he complained to Paul and walla magic coins would appear, but as previously stated the most valuable wallets Paul would not grant access only refill when requested. It got bad when he went international as when a wallet would run dry only he could fill it. Of all the employees Mullick and I were close (internet buddies) Bottom line he didn't do it he is nearly broke now, and worked/works for the receiver.

Paul- Well I loved the guy like Spoetnik said he is a nice shy guy who just rubbed you the right way... Bottom line you cant have millions in personal assets, and move to China with no possible way to maintain income and defend the fact you could not reimburse a million dollar (at the time liability you had). Not to mention he ditched his wife and kids. The stories don't add up, and I have to lean toward we were all taken for fools (Cryptsy Staff).

With that said leave poor Jim alone the guy is easy to pick (porn background and crypto ignorant) on but definitely not in cahoots with Paul on this piece he is broke and probably bankrupt at this point, but I am confident he did not know, and was not involved. He and I were both remote employees like Horus. Both he, Horus and I only ever visited the HQ in Florida one time. Remote employees made about 30k a year or less. Some never mentioned here (or publicly EVER made) 150+k. Horus can vouch for that though I am more than confident he despises the man I tried really hard to mediate between the two...

With all that said Gleb, Spoetnik keep up the good fight. Someone has to.
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 24, 2015, 04:05:23 AM
Let's pretend for one second that Paul Vernon, BitJohn, Horus and Jim Shockney are all 100% honest folks having it beneath them to do anything nefarious. If that's the case, then how the fuck do they justify having Marshall Long, Michael Wilterdink and Leroy Fodor serving Cryptsy in any capacity including the latter cleaning toilets at its office in Florida?

I did quit the company after all so no didn't like many decisions made.... But yeah Marshall was interesting to say the least. Of the folks you mentioned the only one ever employed at Cryptsy was Marshall.

Spoetnik as far as seeing me deleting old support posts goes STOP reviving them then people IM me and ask me questions about the company I don't work for its annoying. So when you revive them from the dead I lock them, and remove the info that makes folks think they should message me.... IF you have a problem IM Horus or Jim they work there Jim runs customer service Horus runs Public relations. They should help you.

Hmm well 2 things.. First i posted earlier on this topic about the IRC MOTD that linked to that topic.
I clicked it then had mentioned it here way back.. if you forget it says MOTD on IRC Topic of discussion set by BitJohn.
And what i corrected on this topic earlier was that i was wrong assuming that topic + MOTD was current (about down time)
I swear i really did think it was from NOW in late 2015.. seriously (it was actually from 2014 OCT.)
So i went and posted back that i made a mistake here.. but i had bumped it already.
And you notice i had the last reply on that topic you cleaned upright ?
I told everyone do NOT expect a reply back from you and i tried to help people myself.. such as when Crestington asked Q's.

Point being i was not trying to be a jerk or get a waive of people on you about your -previous- employer.
If i did not work there i would not want to be support guy anymore either.. i get where you are coming from BitJohn.

It also did not occur to me that you may want to wipe that topic out because people were on you about it.
At a quick glance it just looks like Cryptsy covering things up.
It's you business of course and you free to wipe out an topics you made.. your prerogative / fair enough.
But can i suggest if this same situation occurs just editing the topic and leaving a message for people.
Saying hey "I don't work there anymore, please contact the current staff."
This would likely accomplish the same thing with out making it look like you are covering things up.

Hind sight is 20/20 right..
I deleted many of my first comments here like a year+ ago when i had mprep delete more of my topics.
I got pissed off and was planning on deleting all my comments after i got through a page or two (starting on oldest)
i got tired & bored of doing it.. why am i rambling on ?
Well the other day i had HippieTech coming at me about my First post here making crazy claims.
And sadly i deleted my comments so it's harder for me to prove what it said and it just simply looks bad.. sort of.
I guess his big issue was my Topic was a real coin launch but it was actually a parody / joke.
And that he was using that topic as some sort of proof i am Vlad

Bottom line is i do respect you guys for sticking your heads out in the storm, especially if you don't work there anymore.
Sometimes i see the context from different angles.. it would be tough working for BigVern right now.
I wouldn't want to have a Cryptsy job these days

BitJohn do us all a favor and go nudge Paul to get this shit deal with.
He needs to make a public statement giving a satisfactory explanation with technical details !

And BitJohn i don't know if you missed the long ass reply i left for you here yesterday..
But i tried to reply back with out being overly argumentative or inflammatory etc
In the hopes we could let that drop and not have to quote that massive of wall o text back & froth  Grin
But thanks again for replying back and with so much info and to everyone else too i read everyone's comments.

I don't use Skype anymore that is how I communicated with Paul. Sorry man. again best bet is reach out to Mullick, Jim or Horus they are all monitoring these forums, and still employed at Cryptsy.

100% agree that some form of Blog or post from him is long overdue.
9  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 24, 2015, 12:41:35 AM
Let's pretend for one second that Paul Vernon, BitJohn, Horus and Jim Shockney are all 100% honest folks having it beneath them to do anything nefarious. If that's the case, then how the fuck do they justify having Marshall Long, Michael Wilterdink and Leroy Fodor serving Cryptsy in any capacity including the latter cleaning toilets at its office in Florida?

I did quit the company after all so no didn't like many decisions made.... But yeah Marshall was interesting to say the least. Of the folks you mentioned the only one ever employed at Cryptsy was Marshall.

Spoetnik as far as seeing me deleting old support posts goes STOP reviving them then people IM me and ask me questions about the company I don't work for its annoying. So when you revive them from the dead I lock them, and remove the info that makes folks think they should message me.... IF you have a problem IM Horus or Jim they work there Jim runs customer service Horus runs Public relations. They should help you.
10  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 22, 2015, 09:04:10 PM
Wow. . . we start pointing out some really odd and peculiar things going on and everyone starts pointing the finger. "Wasn't me."

Exactly. Got Jim, John and Horus to stop whatever they were doing to come here and grace us with their presence.

September 06, 2013, 08:46:32 AM: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246679.msg3094912#msg3094912

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When you have BTC or any other coin withdraw issues I will get support tickets much faster than I check posts here. I'm assuming your good as it was a hung wallet and the issue was solved.

I still can't get my head wrapped around how an Army dude - BitJohn - maintained an office in a war zone in the middle of Afghanistan allocating most his free time to provide support for Cryptsy sans pay because he though it was fun.

Um I was already here, and confirmed what you were asking..... Not sure how you lump me into that (everyone showed up category). Been here the whole time.
11  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 22, 2015, 12:26:01 PM
Hahahahaha, that shake weight photo, classic  Cheesy

I got to revisit this old post of mine - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=262052.msg8808590#msg8808590 - when I saw that Marshall Long is buds with Abram Kottmeier as well.

At last count, Marshall Long as been associated with no less than six scam outfits.

As far as I know, we brought him on around the time Mintsy started, as he has mining expertise.  I was against this, but it was a call made above me.

I would love to see what you guys dig up, I'll just watch and if you have any questions I may know answers to, feel free to ask.

mmmm hhhhmmmm
Told ya Back Room Boys - Crypto-Exchange Mob / Illuminati like BitJohn was talking about on previous page..
We will make you an offer you can not refuse / resist Illuminati Mason Horus says to his tied up in the chair victim.
Spot light bright in your face.. give us the micro film and join us or else.. kapiche ?
Why the fuck do you noobs think he is called "The Sun God" ?
..he is the one who puts the lamp in your face during interrogations (yup that is why he went to Police school)
Fuck yeah conspiracies.. Cryptsy come on we got you busted ice cold now !

EDIT:
I let HippieTech post this on my account guys.

EDIT2:
@GoldSeal
Don't think i did not notice you re-posting your Buy Cryptsy BTC ad again..
and your mentioning of me in the header part Wink ..i seen what you did there LOL
Your on the watch list now son !

So I am to believe you Spoetnik gave someone else access to your Bitcointalk account? Or you fudged and your hippietech..... kinda confused now lol
12  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 22, 2015, 12:24:06 PM
I have had 5.4 BTC Pending for 5 days, I have asked to have it canceled but no answer.  Last week I was told to break it up into smaller amounts, I did.  Still Pending.  When I asked if the Delray Beach was the legal address, I was banned from chat and there have been no answers to my support tickets.

Gotta love cryptsy....  NOT

That is the legal address btw.
13  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 22, 2015, 12:11:17 PM
@BitJohn

Ohh man.. Where do i start ? LOL
You know these characters ?
Not really though I was in lots of support rooms of various types where I can see many various conversations.

Well BJ let's be fair here.. This crypto scene is built entirely on masked shady DECEITFUL characters.
Probably true

All of this shit is laid out on a framework of shell accounts at Bitcointalk on a site with no rules against scamming.
pretty accurate

Then we have the fact that a million and 1 scams HAS occurred.. so why in gods name would we give the benefit of the doubt ?
Let the facts guide you

Seems to me BJ you are hell bent on defending Paul even though you just said you don't have wallet addresses.
lol hell bent? I'm speaking to his character as far as I knew it is all. I am more so trying to say for the folks really worried that I don't think paul would steal from them is all. I thought we were in this to inform the users or are you trolling? So yeah I think telling folks my opinion is hopefully helpful to qwell some fears.

Which means he could been doing anything and you wouldn't know.
That is a fact

You don't have access to the web site code.. so he could been doing anything at all.
That is a fact

You seem to be out of the loop for a lot of inner workings yet seem soooooo adamant that Paul is on the up & up.
Worked with for him for quite a while all around genuine guy is all. If he had one character flaw is he can be too nice and trusts too easily.

Look at it from our point of view.. Why is Paul Vernon anymore trust worthy to all of us than any other guy ?
So are we being paranoid conspiracy guys ? Hell yeah we should be .. look around !
Oh I agree and dont hate you for it haha

In my experience in Crypto the ones that smile the most are the scammiest.
The scene is full of Fodor's, Smiling-Terrik's and the Smart Scammers.. the one who's are skilled at staying in the shadows / masked.
Probably true

Funny you just admitted to a cross-exchange crypto-mob that included Gox ROFL
The REAL Back Room Boys Wink
Well it was support/theft oriented. It is in all exchanges best interests to have contacts in case you need someone to look for an address and freeze a money trail. But yes I remember asking Magical Tux a question in IRC one day and he never answered..... then all the news broke lol

Let's take a sniff at CENT shall we ?
I don't suppose BTER was in your Mob ? LOL
BTER was not in a group but yes I had a contact there. Lots of issues with a few coins between us and them like BUK get on different versions of a wallet and customers on both sides complaining they cant withdraw. Pretty hard to work with them honestly.

Jeezuz fuck were guys making money hand over fist and it was all between Cryptsy and BTER.
I guess your and my definition of hand over fist might be different.

My tipster who i am 99.99% certain who he is could tell a story or two about all that.
Huh not sure what this means

BTER caught on and was tipped off on the grand dump on Chinese users.
Huh not sure what this means

You could fire up the CENT wallet and stake coins fast after buying them Cryptsy.
Or just buy them from Cryptsy and send them to BTER.. it was odd why Cryptsy added back CENT after delisting it.
How many coins did Cryptsy ever delist? Once the coin was fixed it was brought back as we had customers who had balances they could no longer touch. So they couldn't withdraw when we delisted when someone fixed it there was quite a push to re-add hard to argue with.

It was at times as low as 0.00000001 LTC or XPM
And selling INSTANTLY at BTER for about 5 to 9 satoshi's ..and lots of guys were doing it too.
So arbitrage opportunities were there in the range of millionths of a cent. Where do I sign up....

And yeah you heard me right guys.. i bought CENT at 0.00000001 xpm in the many millions..
And then sold them at BTER for 0.00000010 BTC
Can you say _FAST_ profit ? hahhahah
Cryptsy was balls deep in that ..until BTER slammed the gate closed to *public* deposits
Ok I'm confused didn't you just say you were the one dumping on the Chinese customers?

But a few of us way back knew damn well the BTER staff simply kept the cash going privately. (for themselves)
Many of our depoits of many many thousands of dollars vanished..
But we all didn't care if we lost 5 grand etc since we made so much anyway ROFL

Oh yeah it's all Cryptsy conspiracies... mmmmmmm hmmmmm
Let's rewind and see the WHOLE CENT story maybe ?
A coin that was released on Cryptsy Chat with no ANN topic.
Your talking about when Cryptsy was the only show in the alt scene for the most part? Released at a time of maybe 20 coins by a dev who did most of the current coins. Yeah not seeing the conspiracy there.

Wallet links passed out on chat by Mod's etc ..who joined in on it.
Who all claimed to be unaware about "THE BUG" ...oh yeah BitJohn you know the one Wink
haha yeah honestly I had one penny and was like this is a cute little coin. Sold it and then folks are suddenly like oh by the way its a billion% PoS due to the bug. Missed out there I guess

And it got 1,00000x worse than that.. who made it ?
The same guy who made Hobonikels and BottleCaps.
yeah Shakezula made another couple jillion coins. So did muddafudda.

After i sort of mocked them for doing it and avoided the coin during launch i asked why no ANN ?
Many days passed and a random user posted a topic on CENT on bitcointalk.
And the DEV of CENT seen it and commented on it fast.. wow funny he was tipped off so quick to get reply on it LOL
I couldn't wait to ask him why his super Cryptsy Back Room Boys FLASH MINED on Cryptsy-Chat coin had no ANN topic..
What did he say ?
Shakezula was in no skype channel I knew of. Maybe someone else can speak to that but I dont seem to remember him ever. The backroom you speak of was really more about chit chat than coin trading honestly.

It was an "experiment", "Not to be take seriously"
I did hear that and well yeah all l crypto falls into this category

Yup from the same guy who made 2 public guides on coin cloning. (and some sold for private)
not sure I get your point so what?

Who said in the guides he made most coins out in crypto "for fun & profit" (all of them on Cryptsy)
We added literally ever coin back then. Until folks started doing the big premines then we took a step back and made the litebonk list.

THAT is why he said he did not post an ANN and instead shared it on Cryptsy Chat.
Again only show in town at the time.

And there was no delay getting it on Cryptsy.. they were more than happy to fast track it on there..
Even with "THE BUG"  ..i guess Cryptsy did not review the code before adding it for their customers ?
your correct at least not at that level back then. Breaking down stake payouts at the time wasnt part of the review. No one had snuck that in yet.


Done ? ooooohhhhhh fuck no
LOL
SO i asked Shakezulu about "the bug" on Bitcointalk.. I said you planned on removing the "stake bug" on Cryptsy Chat.
That all of the backroom boys + cloner dev pretended to not know about.
Because they probably didn't. PoS wasnt fully understood by most devs back then thats why they all broke. On that note every PoS coin Shake made forked. Because turned out he didnt understand the implementation.

Because he said on chat he was going to remove it.. AKA: Fix the bug.
And i said if you do that isn't it unfair for users who come late to the coin ? See what i mean ?
If this is the most unfair thing you found in crypto kinda weak honestly. So your argument is people missed out on holding it. So don't buy into it?

AND he said YES i see what you mean and i will leave it in.. he didn't! ..he put a new wallet out removing the bug!
Pretty lame move if he said that

AFTER the Back room boys had their chance at exploiting it.. They all played dumb about it on Launch !
I think they did know about the bug but again shakezula wasn't in the "backroom" The backroom was pretty much a big skype channel that excluded trolls....Probably only reason you were not in that chat. Again there are so many crypto skype channels full of crypto nonsense its nauseating. Your on the wrong trails though.

Pretending they didn't know that after 9 days they would all get 1,000x stake and not 100.
They simply said Whoopsy it's a bug.. doh ..on our for fun experiment coin ON CRYPTSY !
Sure they probably figured something out not sure it was the folks who did's ethical opportunity to report it. Did you message Bter when you were dumping CENT on their users? No you just did it. So dont try to cross the moral ethical stream on that one.

Think more guys would have been in on it on Launch if THEY all knew ? Of course which is why it was a Cryptsy secret !
See you tend to associate people who use Cryptsy with the actual company. Did Cryptsy customers figure something out sure maybe? Again same argument as you knowing about CENT and perpetuating that great fraud against the people of China.... On a more serious note I don't think you did anything wrong but its the same shit.


Does it stop there ?
Fuuuuuuuck NO !

Shakezulu had an official site for CENT.. when the guy who tipped me off about the BTER + Cryptsy train of money ARB'ing.
The tipster warned me that i should avoid the official wallet because
A) it had a virus / keylogger and crashed a lot.
B) the stake bug was removed (even though the dev said he was leaving it in)
I thought well well.. isn't that interesting.
I think once he figured out there as a Bug he forgot not to take advantage.

I went to Shake's site and grabbed the binaries myself..
And the Tipster also warned me that the new version with the virus on it was updated
but the corresponding Source code was still the previous source code package ..fishy as fucking hell duh LOL
So i checked it out with many tools and i can see clearly it was bundled by a Trojan .exe binder
and bad one too LOL ...the .exe tended to crash a lot because the virus was slopped together so poorly.
I still have the original zip file and the links to the virus total reports for the keylogger infected Wallet.
Not really related to Cryptsy though. So Shakezula needs his own thread yeah  probably. That would be interesting actually a thread of the prolific coin devs in the same fashion as this one haha


What is the common theme ?
Shakezulu or what ever name he uses made half the coins on Cryptsy.. Including CENT
Hardly half probably 10 He made half of the first what I call ramp up of coin devs. He is in the same group as Muddafudda they dabbled back then. Its a freaking roller coaster now not comparable.

BottleCaps for Mullick and Hobonikels for Horus and many others.
Bottlecaps if you look at it was about the fairest release coin ever that was its intention it was made in chat but the point was all the scammy shit out there make one that had best of all pieces and release it the right way. Yes one of the only coins I actually wanted to contribute to.

Common theme ? All of it is tied to Cryptsy balls deep.
well as it was the only exchange adding coins at the time its related to them in much the same way as it was all conducted on personal computers....

Conspiracy ? Of course.. you know "OUR KIND" BitJohn ROFL
I know I know debated you for years now haha. I guess what frustrates me about you is when you go on some of these tangents and you miss the real meat of whats going on haha. You typically like to delve into the man look this guy scammed this other guy for a quarter type things. Or that project failed peoples lost dollars of dollars.... Sometimes you hit it on the head however its just sorting through it that I think you lose lots of folks and they mark you as crazy haha. I will say you base most of your opinions on facts I guess its when you start with a false premise and add it to the facts you get into the wildland.

That Cent "bug" was paranoia and conspiracy by a Trolling Fudster huh ?
yeah I will say I believe it started as a fuck up (all his stake coins were fucked up) though people took advantage after I think.

1 incident..
I -DO- believe there are others if i am not mistaken  Grin
This is by far one of the least interesting of the conspiracies honestly. It really cant be that interesting since well you participated in it. You honestly seem was more knowledgeable on it. Did you post anything here when you found out about CENT and how he was taking advantage? Or did you just keep dumping on the unsuspecting souls. Then complained about the scam when the coffers ran dry?

14  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 22, 2015, 03:34:12 AM

So I definitely cannot speak to any association he had you'd have to ask him. Not sure on the timelines either. He was definitely not the co founder of Cryptsy haha.

http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/iMedia_PC_Bio.aspx?ID=66373#bios



According to Marshall Long he is, or does Cryptsy allow anybody to claim to be a co-founder of Cryptsy sans evoking a cease and desist order?

So he said it on more than one occasion when he was CTO.... I think hes implying he helped with the Canadian site so you can run wild with that one.
15  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 22, 2015, 03:28:10 AM



Lol I just really didn't know him well and he was only with the company for about 5 months ish.
16  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 22, 2015, 03:22:53 AM


"Knock knock!"

"Who's there?"

"Cryptsy's intimate connection."

"Cryptsy's intimate connection to who?"

"Cryptsy's intimate connection to the Garza family and Paycoin scam may be of much interest to the SEC since they are taking Josh Garza to court over scamming people out of approximately $20,000,000.00 with his mining contracts shared profit scam.

They may also take an interest in the fact that Cryptsy.com users are waiting weeks, even months for a few hundred dollars in Bitcoin, yet some wacko peonminer proved that their Cryptsy.com-old and new wallets are shuffling thousands of dollars of Bitcoin to a rogue wallet, which is then sent to a $6,000,000.00 address that is appeared to be used in mixing Bitcoins.

They may also be interested in the privy information that may be connecting that mixing address to the Scryptsy scam and another HYIP scam that has recently popped up."

"Oh. Um. Yeah. Don't come in. We have no idea what you're talking about. All of those connections are probably wrong. I'm not sure, but it just doesn't make sense. I would think someone would have caught that by now. Just come back In Two Weeks™. Mein Fuhrer should be back from China then. By the way, his visit to China has nothing to do with www.bitebi9.com so stop digging, um, I mean, knocking. Oh, and if the SEC asks, you never heard of Scryptsy.com or Mintsy.com . . . understood? I mean, we don't have a clue about those sites either."

So again from my view on working inside Cryptsy the Garza thing just isn't a path as far as Paul. There were some talks but mostly related to InsideBTC in Las Vegas and him wanting to be a part of Cryptsy. That never happened. Can't speak much to Marshall he was there about 5-6 months before he left. As far as the SEC Marshall Long being CTO was not a secret. Honestly most of the stuff you guys are talking about is available to them. I know on the paycoin thing action was taken not sure on the legalities of me speaking to it at this point. When I was at Cryptsy the Fincen stuff was a pain in the ass because its actually illegal for them to comment if someone did something.

I saw lots of posts when I was there where a guy would say his stuff is frozen etc. 99% of the time it was he was flagged and reported to Fincen. But the stupid law says you cant tell them that. It was a painful restriction. So lets say a company did something wrong who was a customer it was likely filed as a SAR. The big downfall with that is Cryptsy couldn't say hey yeah its fucked up so we reported it to Fincen. As that would be considered informing someone they were under investigation. At least my understanding.

I'll add I definitely don't think the current issues are SAR related lol. Unless the system started flagging all users.

As far as what your saying Peon. I don't work there don't really care I'm just telling folks what I know from being an insider within the bounds of the NDA I signed. There are plenty of folks working there who would be all over it if that was the case (at least my opinion) and they would not stay.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/mintsy-launches-cloud-mining-service-cryptographic-proof-hashrate-1432243602

Quote
Mintsy recently announced a launch of its new cloud mining service as the first digital currency cloud mining company to use proof-of-reserves, accomplished through cryptographic proof-of-hashrate.

Bitcoin Magazine sat down with Marshall Long, who is the CTO of Cryptsy, and more recently CTO and board member at Mintsy, to discuss what he says is unprecedented innovation in the realm of cloud mining.

Mintsy provides users with malleable contracts, which assuages any worries on being locked into a contract they no longer need. Long says users are “able to sell their remaining contract time on the Mintsy marketplace where other folks may want a shorter contract and can bid on contracts that are up for sale by the user.”

Mining the Future

At the time of this post, Mintsy is made up of 20 people, and is the result of a joint venture between Terraboss Inc. and digitalBTC. The development team is spread out between the United States and London, while the majority of the accounting takes place in Australia. DigitalBTC is an Australian company that is publicly traded on the Australian Securities Exchange under the ticker DCC.
With a bitcoin mining pool going strong at more than 5 PH/s, Mintsy offers SHA-256 and Scrypt contracts ranging with flexible three-month and six-month contracts, although “more exotic algorithm contracts will be online soon.”

Thinking Outside The Box: Cryptographic Proof of Hashrate
Long, a serial entrepreneur in the fields of Bitcoin, drones and manufacturing, explains that previously, many cloud-based mining services “got away with lots of bitcoin in the beginning because nobody demanded proof of what they were selling.”

He explains that Mintsy will circumvent all of the problems relating to the auditing that their accounting staff may have to deal with, since all of their hashrate information will be transparent.
Naysayers are given proof that the cloud mining company is not double-selling hashrates, instead running a 100 percent full reserve by having all of their information accessible on the blockchain.

Long has been working with Bitcoin core developer Peter Todd to implement the cryptographic proof-of-hashrate for Mintsy. This feature is still in development with a planned release in mid- June.
Another feature that Mintsy will have is the ability for users to use the website’s service and rent out their rigs to other users for a fee, much like Betarigs.

In the meantime, users can limit their luck variance by allowing their customer base to “take their contract and point it to any pool.” When users don’t put all of their eggs in one basket, the choice in picking their mining pools is “not only transparent, it’s more efficient since your [one] pool is not lucky all the time.”

But is Cloud Mining still profitable?

It’s no surprise that conventional mining is not as easy as it used to be.

“If your electricity bill is very high, then there is no way you can make money mining even with the most advanced of chips,” explains Marshall. To him, cloud mining not only helps those who don’t have access to cheap power, but also provides new users with a way to ease into mining for a very small fee. The company’s smallest contract costs a little under $20, and users can always trade contracts on the Mintsy marketplace.

So, Marshall Long is co-founder of Cryptsy, CTO of Cryptsy, CTO of Project Investors, CTO of Mintsy, and was trying to crawl in bed with Josh Garza while living with Jaime Garza, but had nothing to do with Paycoin, GAW, etc. Hell, I don't even think my bud, Leroy Fodor, could've came up that story.

So I definitely cannot speak to any association he had you'd have to ask him. Not sure on the timelines either. He was definitely not the co founder of Cryptsy haha.
17  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 22, 2015, 03:21:15 AM
Your comments are interesting BitJohn, to say the least. Smiley Thanks for your insider perspective. We appreciate your feedback. Although, bound by your NDA, it is like reading the back of a bound book. There is so much fruit inside, yet you can not open the book, due to the tightly locked buckle put around it. Tongue

Care to share the Cryptsy cold storage Bitcoin wallet link?  Wink

I actually had zero access to wallets don't know that info. Very few people did. I know I wish I could just say it all haha. I am completely out of the crypto space moving on to the real world. It was fun and exciting but insane and full of drama. I would never work at another crypto based company again. The people at Cryptsy were awesome for the most part and it was fun but lots of stress and never ending drama. Which if you lok around is Crypto in general.

Even BTC is just controlled by big pump and dump groups... Reading that all these people have had contact with one another at one point never surprises me. Shouldn't surprise any of you honestly. Doesn't make them all bad but they all reach out to one another at some point. There are chat rooms with just exchange support teams in them for instance most dead now, but at one point they were used to coordinate against hackers and big dumps so someone couldn't rob one exchange and dump at another the money got tracked for the most part and frozen by the other exchange. BTC-e MtGox when it was a thing all participated.

I plan to hang out in this thread because I want to see where it all goes but everything else crypto in the words of Mr Wonderful "Is dead to me".
18  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 22, 2015, 03:13:25 AM

So again from my view on working inside Cryptsy the Garza thing just isn't a path as far as Paul. There were some talks but mostly related to InsideBTC in Las Vegas and him wanting to be a part of Cryptsy. That never happened. Can't speak much to Marshall he was there about 5-6 months before he left. As far as the SEC Marshall Long being CTO was not a secret. Honestly most of the stuff you guys are talking about is available to them. I know on the paycoin thing action was taken not sure on the legalities of me speaking to it at this point. When I was at Cryptsy the Fincen stuff was a pain in the ass because its actually illegal for them to comment if someone did something.

I saw lots of posts when I was there where a guy would say his stuff is frozen etc. 99% of the time it was he was flagged and reported to Fincen. But the stupid law says you cant tell them that. It was a painful restriction. So lets say a company did something wrong who was a customer it was likely filed as a SAR. The big downfall with that is Cryptsy couldn't say hey yeah its fucked up so we reported it to Fincen. As that would be considered informing someone they were under investigation. At least my understanding.

I'll add I definitely don't think the current issues are SAR related lol. Unless the system started flagging all users.

As far as what your saying Peon. I don't work there don't really care I'm just telling folks what I know from being an insider within the bounds of the NDA I signed. There are plenty of folks working there who would be all over it if that was the case (at least my opinion) and they would not stay.

So what discussions has Cryptsy had with the SEC? Do you think Cryptsy can survive the run-on-the-bank scenario they are facing? People seem to think it looks like they are surviving on on their deposits hoping they can cope with the day-to-day operating margins to stay afloat. If they had to return all customer funds, do you think they could do it?



I think Paul will do what he can to make things right. What the future holds not sure probably been out of the loop to long. I have my own ideas etc but again I cant go into to much detail since I signed papers. I just think some of the plots and wild elaborate conspiracies are a bit tin foil hatty. Just knowing the people (At least I think I do)
19  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 22, 2015, 02:58:57 AM


"Knock knock!"

"Who's there?"

"Cryptsy's intimate connection."

"Cryptsy's intimate connection to who?"

"Cryptsy's intimate connection to the Garza family and Paycoin scam may be of much interest to the SEC since they are taking Josh Garza to court over scamming people out of approximately $20,000,000.00 with his mining contracts shared profit scam.

They may also take an interest in the fact that Cryptsy.com users are waiting weeks, even months for a few hundred dollars in Bitcoin, yet some wacko peonminer proved that their Cryptsy.com-old and new wallets are shuffling thousands of dollars of Bitcoin to a rogue wallet, which is then sent to a $6,000,000.00 address that is appeared to be used in mixing Bitcoins.

They may also be interested in the privy information that may be connecting that mixing address to the Scryptsy scam and another HYIP scam that has recently popped up."

"Oh. Um. Yeah. Don't come in. We have no idea what you're talking about. All of those connections are probably wrong. I'm not sure, but it just doesn't make sense. I would think someone would have caught that by now. Just come back In Two Weeks™. Mein Fuhrer should be back from China then. By the way, his visit to China has nothing to do with www.bitebi9.com so stop digging, um, I mean, knocking. Oh, and if the SEC asks, you never heard of Scryptsy.com or Mintsy.com . . . understood? I mean, we don't have a clue about those sites either."

So again from my view on working inside Cryptsy the Garza thing just isn't a path as far as Paul. There were some talks but mostly related to InsideBTC in Las Vegas and him wanting to be a part of Cryptsy. That never happened. Can't speak much to Marshall he was there about 5-6 months before he left. As far as the SEC Marshall Long being CTO was not a secret. Honestly most of the stuff you guys are talking about is available to them. I know on the paycoin thing action was taken not sure on the legalities of me speaking to it at this point. When I was at Cryptsy the Fincen stuff was a pain in the ass because its actually illegal for them to comment if someone did something.

I saw lots of posts when I was there where a guy would say his stuff is frozen etc. 99% of the time it was he was flagged and reported to Fincen. But the stupid law says you cant tell them that. It was a painful restriction. So lets say a company did something wrong who was a customer it was likely filed as a SAR. The big downfall with that is Cryptsy couldn't say hey yeah its fucked up so we reported it to Fincen. As that would be considered informing someone they were under investigation. At least my understanding.

I'll add I definitely don't think the current issues are SAR related lol. Unless the system started flagging all users.

As far as what your saying Peon. I don't work there don't really care I'm just telling folks what I know from being an insider within the bounds of the NDA I signed. There are plenty of folks working there who would be all over it if that was the case (at least my opinion) and they would not stay.
20  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: December 22, 2015, 01:03:10 AM
I read about a quarter of peonminers thread painful to follow. Sorry Peon lots of inaccuracies and leaps. I mean sure you can build the basis of fact on fiction but in the end you end up with bad poo. Too many hands watching things in Cryptsy for it to be theft, laundering etc. Someone would have caught on and reported something. Not to mention Paul probably wouldn't ever come back to the US since he could comfortably stay overseas.

Edit 1: I did see the compliance thing, and there were already companies verified at tier 4 and tier 3 when I left.

In clickable links and given screenshots it is seen that the wallets detailed as Cryptsy.com's new and old wallets are emptying into an unmarked wallet, then sending the coins to this address: 3HNSiAq7wFDaPsYDcUxNSRMD78qVcYKicw which is spitting and mixing coins daily. What gives? Care to comment on those points that can be seen in the blockchain?

Who verified they are actual Cryptsy accounts for one. Not to mention Cryptsy has more than two BTC wallets. Coins move in and out and round and round a million reasons. I don't think those are Cryptsy if they are then I am wrong but it doesn't add up. Some of the associations you made with like Scriptsy I know are false or they were a customer account at one point. Hey maybe your right but I am just saying I don't think that everything you posted is accurate is all.
The Cryptsy.com-old wallet is verified to be linked to Cryptsy as an address I used just over a year ago to get a loan from Vod can be found as an address from the wallet Cryptsy.com-old. It is all proven 100% in my post. If I had not taken screenshots over a year ago of that address blatantly seen as my Cryptsy address, the wallet could be theorized as not belonging to Cryptsy. I disproved the wallet being a 'fake' as an address belonging to Cryptsy, my old deposit address for Cryptsy, is found in the Cryptsy.com-old wallet. Read it from the beginning to end. I understand that companies may be verified past the tier 2 account management, although this does not explain the wallets being emptied into a rogue wallet, then sent to an address that can be seen shuffling Bitcoin. The address that can be seen shuffling Bitcoin is the one related to the Scryptsy scam and the HYIP. I'm not claiming that that address belongs to Cryptsy exclusively, I am pointing out it is rather odd that funds are dumping by the thousands from Cyptsy's address, to a random wallet, then to that address associated with other scams. This is some kind of intimate connection to say the least.
Yeah sorry think you got the wrong address man. Just doesn't make sense. Again who knows but that would have been noticed by developers, mullick etc. Again maybe I'm wrong just find it hard to believe as it wouldn't make any sense. Who know I cant verify so all I can do is say I find it hard to believe haha. Maybe Horus can clear it up?
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