I would have ordered one coin for myself at number 99. But I would prefer to see in the RQ code inscription - "For Russia, as an important historical moment. Step for future partnership between different countries"  And hash 256 code for this label: dd9967f0077312216534a202e3d4833d5207ab315981df3edca8344a268f08b7 |
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question at community:
we plan to create a limited to 99 coin a 4th anniversary limited edition of graved silver coins
expected sell price including world wide shipping will be 200 DMD
if we get feedback from community that the demand is there we will proceed to follow this project
the plan is one side a DMD logo and the 4th anniversary limited edition text
other side a QR and address of ur wish address or optional even the by u encrypted private key
which would in fact make this also a 800°C fireproof cold storage
if u like this idea please reply and also some estimate how many coins u interested to buy
we would split the coins always in a way that everyone who want one get at least one coin
and just leftover coins will be split proportional between people who want to order multiple coins
An excellent idea with coins, it's a pity that not all countries people can get them. The barrier is the severe customs control in some countries. For example, in Russia there are strict rules for the import of products from precious metals. Of course, if someone very much wants to get such a coin, he can overpay the triple cost to get it for his collection., But that's another story. I think that DMD itself is already a digital analog of diamonds, and it has a huge plus in comparison with physical objects that are not very easy to transport between borders in different countries. That is why, the crypto currencies will only grow in the coming years. And I hope that the Diamond can take a worthy place in this market. |
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I don't get what NXS has to do with this whole Vectorspacesys thing
Every coin uses the Internet for coordination of its blockchain. It's ubiquitous, it's convenient. But depending on this does has a major flaw for a currency. Your Internet may be limited due to location.. hard to get a hookup in the Congo even by phone dialup. Or maybe you just have a solar powered vending machine on a mountain trail far from a cell tower. More importantly your Internet may be limited or blocked due to government control.. have you seen many blog posts from North Korean citizens? And perhaps most importantly your Internet (and therefore currency transactions) are monitored by governments (and not just yours), no matter how high your tech savvy level is. So it's useful to have an alternative way to optionally, additionally, access a blockchain, making the currency usable without using the Internet. This second method doesn't have to be commonly used, it just has to be POSSIBLE.. we just need a "backup channel" to the blockchain for needed robustness. You need it to coordinate blocks and transactions globally and with low latency (though not much bandwidth), and be completely independent of the Internet. What kind of communication system can do that? There's really only one answer: Communication satellite constellations. Because it's so low bandwidth, you can use tiny cheap satellites. Guess what Vectorspacesys does? The Nexus Earth site doesn't really explain the importance and appeal of this, but that's likely because they (quite properly) shouldn't hype a future feature that's planned but doesn't actually exist yet. You want to say that each satellite they launch will contain on board a mini PC with a NEXUS wallet and a certain number of coins to support the node? But you probably know that the lifetime of satellites as a rule is no more than 10 years. After that, they slowly fall and burn in the atmosphere. This means that all the coins that will be on this space node will also burn. Is this provided by the system or did you just make your own guess? |
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I'm just curious, why do you think investors should come to the system where there is inflation?
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I think you misunderstood cloudmining DMD... you invest some $ in it and it mines bitcoins which is used to buy DMD on open market. So cloudmining is supporting the DMD price...
Ah. Well... this just entirely negates everything I've just said. Well done, hat's off. Cloudmining brings permanent DMD payments. As Cryptonit recommends, you divide your investment finance into two parts. You spend one part on buying DMD and the second part, converting it into bitcoins and investing in cloud stocks. Thus, you receive payments in DMD with the multipool and payments at the expense of POS income Investing in Cloudmining gives additional advantages due to the increasing buying pressure on the market. The greater this pressure, the higher the cost for Diamond. |
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Maybe I'm wrong, but in connection with such a strong growth rate bitcoin, the price of DMD should grow even more ... Other coins also have a large price increase. May be after the launch of the MN the price will be even more than 2 dollars ... Capitalization TOP 100 is growing as well. I think in a few months will need capitalization of DMD more than 6-8 million dollars in order to get into the TOP 100. Which means that the price of DMD can reach 2.5-3.5 dollars. Look at coins such as Ripple and Litecoin, long histories of slow decline against the Bitcoin value... suddenly coming to life here in the last couple months. Compare those trends with that of DMD and you'll see DMD appears to have been swept up in the same whirlwind as all the others did early March of this yr... I'm seeing a hesitancy to buy much above .0005 and an equally-matched hesitancy to sell much below .0005. My recommendation: Someone(s) come(s) along in the middle of the night to sweep up any buy orders that happen to be sitting on or around the .0005 mark.... just leave an order or two sitting around there, and maybe after he/she/it/they do their night thing, buy the ones left behind for you as sell orders in the am. But make sure it is AT LEAST an equally-weighted stash you pick up in the morning, else wait  not worth it. I don't think we can see much of an increase in price until there is again a strong established base of buy orders around .0005, which, most importantly, holds. As a buyer considering buying above .0005 I'd be troubled by the possibility of the bottom dropping out to .00045 or so from one big sell. And with people investing in cloud mining looking to turn profits into usd, these big sells we've seen over the last couple weeks could just be all for that (for all I know as an outside prospective investor looking in). Granted, there have been nearly as many big buys... but as I've said that base is sketchy. As a prospective investor in DMD I personally have no interest in turning profits to usd but rather seeing my btc investment in DMD slowly and steadily rise through time. That's why I came to bitcoin in the first place... I don't want USD, prefer my bitcoin. I don't see how cloudmining and that go together when all that is cloudmined is sold in large quantities on bittrex... lowering the price for people who have invested in DMD through bittrex. Seems like a wise decision not to buy on bittrex until it is understood just how much of this cloudmining mined DMD is being sold... until then it kind of feels like I would just be buying what cloudmining is trying to sell. I want what a fellow investor is willing to sell. But not yet, don't have any funds in order quite yet. You wrote so many things, but here's the easiest way. Take the credit in the bank for example 50k $ and invest in DMD. You pay interest to bank wiht received POS income. In a year, after a price on DMD increase in value, you can easily return all the credit to the bank. By investing at this stage, you get a double benefit. In fact, the bank will pay for your future millions |
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What caused this growth? Or already someone knows the release date for Poloniex  |
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Friend, we obviously have a problem of communication, what I am arguing is that the link you put as a reference clearly states that it is ALPHA code, and clearly states that it still needs a lot of testing BEFORE putting it in production; its nuts to use that code in our network
I also clearly state that I am OK with PoW + PoS (please, we really need to read carefully to avoid misundertstandings)
It would be better to use the official forum to backup the arguments before the poll. Also this first thread that will be put is just choosing candidates (like PoW + PoS)
Ok, then you can open a separate topic on this issue on the forum.worldcoin.global |
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It means that bitcoin has using version 0.8.x up to december 2013 (and many nodes up to 2014) with tens of times more transactions, nodes, etc than wdc and network was not 'disturbing' even then. Many changes that came after that, patches scalability problem giving more time to the network; we do not have those problems right now because number of transactions are very very low in comparison, if you change to a PoW + PoS scheme that should secure a little more the network for a hashrate attack but what you do not realize is that performing a sybill atack is hundreds of times cheaper and easier to destroy a network something even btc is susceptible to. So you want fortify the front door with reinforced steel but you leave the back window open; feeling more secure.
As a side note: PoW will be changed in the future because its an enormous waste of power, the trend technology improves is always in the other direction; there are many experimental schemes that do not waste so much power that will supersede PoW, therefore securing hashrate is definitely a temporary solution because it will be changed again in the future.
But we do not need to argue about this, because as I said if someone else will invest time in temporal improvements I do not have a problem with that. We will coordinate and make the improvements
But some guidelines first:
*We won't use alpha status code (like your last proposal), that would be crazy and very reckless (to say the least) move.because it can kill the network. Changing core crypto functions is hard, changing it correctly with a decent QA is EXTREMELY HARD; it would be suicide if we try to implement alpha code for a new scheme and try to perform QA (Quality Assurance) ourselves
Whats more how exactly this proposal changes the 'disturbing' status of the network?!?!?!?
*We won't change to some experimental scheme which is a project of a single coin (related to point 1)
*The candidate schemes should be currently used and proved to work in production code (Pow + PoS for example)
In the past you wanted to change to some established PoW + PoS which can't hurt (done right of course), other proven schemes could work too
About voting:
Example:
suppose there are 4 options:
we will send to your address 0.1 wdc for option 1, 0.2 wdc for option 2 and so on (to whatever you put your vote).
you have to send us back the amount for your vote to count
the address used to send the coins will be checked for the amount of WDC you have in it.
More coins more vote power.
Before we start vote, we need to agree on technical changes and only then vote for them. You argue that any change with the addition of masternodes can lead to a catastrophe. Then let's look at the my old sentence and then how the nearest coins to us (for example Potcoin, and scrypt algo) went to the POW + POSv mechanism https://github.com/potcoin/Potcoin-SeederPersonally, I do not see that this coin is experiencing network problems, such as we now see at WDC. I also propose to translate this discussion into a slack channel, that would not fill this forum with different ideas and reflections. If you want, you can start a new slack channel or join the fact that I discovered worldcoin-group.slack.com (For me it does not matter) |
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Ok, if you agree to recognize that the situation with the network is disturbing and we need a solution, then I propose to hold a vote on this issue.
Maybe this makes sense in the forum.worldcoin.global?
Sadly what you say is not true and is obvious you don't know what you are talking about in technical terms, BUT what I recognize is that having a temporary patch (for a problem we don't have yet) won't hurt, long term nothing will change because we will need to switch again so if you are serious about your proposal I don't have a problem, it also may attract traders so volume should be increased Please confirm that you are really committed with this and I will put a thread on forum with general guidelines so we make a poll in the future with block chain tech candidates. The way voting will go on is: people who have more WDC have more power vote on proportional means, the exact mechanism to control this can be discussed I wonder what it means I do not understand what I'm talking about? There are clear specifications for different coins, with source codes available on github. If we take into account the system masternodes then you can see about it here - https://github.com/evan82/dashpayBut this implies a serious network change with the opening of masternodes. If people approve this system and we move on to it, it means setting a certain amount of WDC to open one masternode. If people invest in this system and buy for this worldcoin, (for example 100k for opening one MN) then how are you going to cancel it later? It's like telling them that your contribution to the bank will be annulled after a while.. |
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anyone ever going to upgrade or do something to make wdc at all relevant again?
I see
quark, dgc, mec all talking up some kind of comeback and price up rising but wdc not so much?
the 2013 leading alts have been sleeping are they all about to wake up for this new wave on incoming crypto enthusiasts?
The matter is that now on the Chines exchangers the withdrawal of BTC and LTC is closed (pause for withdrawal to 15 days) Fearing the strengthening of government pressure, people buy altcoins and try to withdraw money through them. Btc38 is the largest volume for WDC. And there are the same restrictions with output. To WDC again began to really grow in price, we need network reforms. But as Berzeck said, he does not consider them necessary at the moment. In addition, his remarks about the lack of interest in the opinions of investors, just will not add the status for current state of affairs. I sold some of my WDC, but still own 500k coins. If I do not see reforms in the near future, then I will sell the rest. I like coins where developers listen to investors and not vice versa. Agree you have to give them what they want else they invest elsewhere and those projects will develop with the funds you could have had. Crypto currency is primarily a financial system. It must obey certain rules. If there are no investors, then there will be no system. I'm not a poor man, and could have long ago hired a programmer to change the WDC code. But I do not want to organize a revolution. And I believe that any problems can be solved through dialogue.. What I explicitly told everyone including you is that current block chain technology does not solve the problems that crypto have, they are only patches that give more time to developers to find the ultimate solution, therefore I won't invest my personal time on patches, just in real solutions. BUT if you have money to hire a developer that's excellent! because I will coordinate with him and will help to implement the patch or temporary solution. I do not have any problem with that. No revolution needed!!! So let me know when can we start working and I will post updates in this forum and on official web page Ok, if you agree to recognize that the situation with the network is disturbing and we need a solution, then I propose to hold a vote on this issue. Maybe this makes sense in the forum.worldcoin.global? |
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anyone ever going to upgrade or do something to make wdc at all relevant again?
I see
quark, dgc, mec all talking up some kind of comeback and price up rising but wdc not so much?
the 2013 leading alts have been sleeping are they all about to wake up for this new wave on incoming crypto enthusiasts?
The matter is that now on the Chines exchangers the withdrawal of BTC and LTC is closed (pause for withdrawal to 15 days) Fearing the strengthening of government pressure, people buy altcoins and try to withdraw money through them. Btc38 is the largest volume for WDC. And there are the same restrictions with output. To WDC again began to really grow in price, we need network reforms. But as Berzeck said, he does not consider them necessary at the moment. In addition, his remarks about the lack of interest in the opinions of investors, just will not add the status for current state of affairs. I sold some of my WDC, but still own 500k coins. If I do not see reforms in the near future, then I will sell the rest. I like coins where developers listen to investors and not vice versa. Agree you have to give them what they want else they invest elsewhere and those projects will develop with the funds you could have had. Crypto currency is primarily a financial system. It must obey certain rules. If there are no investors, then there will be no system. I'm not a poor man, and could have long ago hired a programmer to change the WDC code. But I do not want to organize a revolution. And I believe that any problems can be solved through dialogue.. |
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anyone ever going to upgrade or do something to make wdc at all relevant again?
I see
quark, dgc, mec all talking up some kind of comeback and price up rising but wdc not so much?
the 2013 leading alts have been sleeping are they all about to wake up for this new wave on incoming crypto enthusiasts?
The matter is that now on the Chines exchangers the withdrawal of BTC and LTC is closed (pause for withdrawal to 15 days) Fearing the strengthening of government pressure, people buy altcoins and try to withdraw money through them. Btc38 is the largest volume for WDC. And there are the same restrictions with output. To WDC again began to really grow in price, we need network reforms. But as Berzeck said, he does not consider them necessary at the moment. In addition, his remarks about the lack of interest in the opinions of investors, just will not add the status for current state of affairs. I sold some of my WDC, but still own 500k coins. If I do not see reforms in the near future, then I will sell the rest. I like coins where developers listen to investors and not vice versa. |
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Now the wait for a WDC transaction takes 40 minutes, strange it does not bother anyone..
Already today there is a proven technology with the use of Masternodes allowing to implement instant transactions.
But who then still believes that reforms are unnecessary?
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i understand the ultimate goal is to cash out and store ur earned wealth
but what if DMD is already one of the best places to store wealth and even earn interest?
Well said. I see that some people do not realize that by selling DMD and transferring money to dollars or euros, they actually invest in Dogecoin  Banknotes are just a paper product with constant inflation. The state all the time a print money and it becomes every year more and more in circulation. As a result, the prices for goods are gradually growing, and the value of fiat currency is falling. Diamond has only 4.38 million coins, 2.07 million of which have already been mined. So think and ask yourself again why Diamond will grow in price. |
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or u leave the wall and join the game slow suck up cheap coins below it
in any case each DMD u can get cheap is a win
What is cheap now for DMD though? The price was stable at 0.3usd for ages and now is double the price! If I am not mistaken the price was even on 0.1usd not too long ago. I keep waiting for a price drop which I do not think this is going to come with all the news i.e. V3 and master nodes AGH  the regret of not buying more precious diamond when it was cheap I think that you are unlikely to see a price lower than 0.5 USD for 1 DMD |
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It seems that on Bittrex really there is a deficit of cheap DMD..
Strangely enough, statistics show that the volume of coins in the stock exchange wallet continues to grow
I think that in the current situation, (blocking the withdrawal of coins in China and the problem with Bitfinex) to keep such amounts on the exchange is not reasonable.
What do you exactly mean? Were they worth more than $0.712usd before? If they did then where else are they listed if they are showing on bittrex for that much? They on other exchanges for more right now? I just started to get interested into this DMD phenomenon. It looks like a winner. And to make these small form factor nico pcs as nodes is just pure genius compared to having full servers for supporting other alts on the markets. I want to say that if there are users who hold such a large number of coins (if this information is objective) on Bittrex, then they lose decent POS revenue. |
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Every coin bar 2 was pumped in last few weeks, some only yesterday.
Coincidence??
The method in poloniex delists their coins is certainly questionable in terms of ethics and possibly also legality - I much prefer the way Bittrex delist coins, by giving a warning and only delisting if volume drops - its much fairer. I can't see so much logic behind Polo's decisions - was same last time when they dropped XDN which was stable and had a good value - luckily Bittrex brought them onboard and market cap has stabilised again - lets hope the same happens for some of the great coins they dropped. You're right. Poloniex does not like coins, which for a long time lie in the dust and do not grow. It is clear that the last two pumps it's be a were farewell.. |
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It seems that on Bittrex really there is a deficit of cheap DMD..  Strangely enough, statistics show that the volume of coins in the stock exchange wallet continues to grow I think that in the current situation, (blocking the withdrawal of coins in China and the problem with Bitfinex) to keep such amounts on the exchange is not reasonable. |
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The mac wallet from bit.diamonds will not instal ? says I need to talk to the dev .... my version is: el cap 10.11.6
If you have any compatibility problems and you can not solve them, just use a time-tested DMD wallet for Windows 7 on a virtual machine. It's convenient and safe. |
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