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stolen passports = terrorism, imo.
Malaysia being a muslim country means nothing, Iraq is a muslim country, they kill each other over being the wrong type of muslim
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GCHQ are literally in love with bitcoin, I've seen a report from GCHQ which was basically raving about it's utility.
It's still possible to anonymise it, but a mistake is permanent and public and believe me for everyone who does it perfectly there are 99 other people who fuck up and can be traced.
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The real Satoshi is rich as fuck and not about to get doxxed.
Just because he hasn't moved his coins doesn't mean he hasn't sold any of them.
There are a lot of rich whales/funds etc who would happily purchase the privatekeys to his wallets and keep it on the downlow.
The only problem with that is that those whales, won't know if the previous owner has kept a copy of the private keys. Do you imagine yourself paying millions and leaving that probability? Yes, people pay multi millions of dollars for things all the time and trust that the old user won't steal it. I sold a $600,000 boat I could quite easily take back if I'd kept a copy of the keys, but then I'd get done for theft. |
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As the tittle, I want to borrow 1 Btc in 2 weeks and I can provide LTC as collateral. What offers u guys got for me?
I can do this for 45 LTC collateral. Payback of 1.01 BTC in two weeks. Deposit 45 LTC to LXnUfa1jFgGCkdy15wAFL2VkyyLeuEmKwA and let me know your BTC address. or just do this. |
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Satoshi is still here, selling off his private keys to whales/funds  |
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The real Satoshi is rich as fuck and not about to get doxxed.
Just because he hasn't moved his coins doesn't mean he hasn't sold any of them.
There are a lot of rich whales/funds etc who would happily purchase the privatekeys to his wallets and keep it on the downlow.
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the most damaging are the mining ponzis like PBMining.
They doubled their hash rate over night, they won't provide any proof of coin generation, and they're running off with 100+ bitcoins and counting
I don't get it? Mining ponzis? Please post more details about this. Ponzis that claim to use investor money to buy hardware and make 150% daily. They don't actually mine. Thank fuck for that, thought I was the only person on this entire forum who could see the obvious |
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also, will you use escrow
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how many litecoins u offering as collateral ?
I make it approx 41
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Please stop using the term "ponzi" if you have no clue what it means...
It's true that most of these mining sites are risky, and even the more legit ones ARE NOT for newbies trying to make a quick buck.
Are you retarded? "A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from existing capital or new capital paid by new investors" This is what I am saying: Fake mining operation takes money, pays back investors a small percent of their own money claiming it is "mining profits". How is that NOT a ponzi? |
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@Piggles - My guess is that pbmining doesn't actually have an asic farm and they aren't generating any blocks. They're probably renting hashing power from someone else at a lower rate and/or using a mining pool. If they purchased asic hardware, and they're selling 1 gh/s for about $5, so that means they had to have purchased 1 gh/s for less than $5, minus maintenance (power, etc). You figure they want to make a profit, so add another 20% on top of that, right? Where is one going to get 29Th/s for about $3-$4 a gh/s? Right now, antminers are around $4 a gh/s, but they purchased equipment early on, just a few weeks ago antminers were about $15 a gh and that was the lowest. Let's say they purchased a bunch of hardware from KNC in November (650 gh/s @ 6000), that's still over $9 a gh. So, they either financed a lot of hardware on credit and have a 5 year payback plan to a bank or investor or they are banking on btc/usd(cad) will rise significantly. If you look at the early ebay sales for them, they were selling USB block erupters, so maybe they financed the farm that way. Either way, there is no reason why they can't tell you what mining hardware they use.
Here's the other kicker with cloud mining, you have to generate more sales revenue than your mining farm would generate through mining only for the owner, otherwise, what's the point?
Exactly. Until proven otherwise, 90% of these sites are scams imo. They all accept bitcoin only, have forwarding addresses, are shady about proof they even mine etc. |
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I have been looking into mining for a while now.
Seems there are two kinds of mining operations:
Cex.io where the price per GH is never going to make a profit mining bitcoins, but is at least legitimate (not stealing your money)
and all the others, which show an ROI on GH/s in 50-70 days.
Most of the second type seem to have newly registered sites, a slick/simple layout, unrealistic pricing, a strange inability to demonstrate that they are actually generating ANY coins at all.
Mining lease companies are the new ponzi, imo, and from my personal research it looks like 90% of the ones out there are ponzis.
In before all the "no way man, I gave them 1 btc and they gave me back 0.09 this week so therefore no way are they a ponzi"
I can't even convince some people Leancy is a ponzi so this is hopeless.
i mine and make a very healthy profit although i mine scrypt and n-scrypt. i won't touch SHA even with Satoshis stick. Yeah bud i'm only talking about the mining operations selling GH, not people mining for themselves |
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I'd love to share the story of how i once set up a thing and left a trail pointing to someone who'd run a similar thing before.
But I can't.
Not surprised Satoshi did this, I hope he at least paid the guy though. I did it to screw someone royally (which I did) if he never paid this Dorian guy I feel for him.
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Clearly you don't understand the internet concept of "First to critical mass wins".
Although in theory bitcoin can be copied and improved on, the facts on the ground are that the majority by far of value is in
the bitcoin network and the rapidly expanding retail network accepting bitcoin. Try nipping down to your high street and buy your
aunts birthday present with quarks!!
Three words bro. Friends Reunited. Myspace. |
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Take the 24 hours first  Already did, earned 0.18  I agreed to buy, said I need 12 hours since I was at work and my 2fa key was at home, in which time btc went from $580-680, he insisted price was still 9.5btc. Im waiting on the pics of the miner + asked for the new price in btc. He's said 8btc, but still won't provide pics of the miner. Also offered 1.5 btc less if I don't do escrow  Somehow thinks sending me .18 btc means I should be safe to send him 8 because clearly he's trustworthy. He could send .18 to 20 people, 1 of whom sends 8btc and he's still doubled his money. I half suspect this entire forum is myself, 2 or 3 other people and 1 scammer with hundreds of alts. lol |
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Does these cards work in internet shops that have "Verified by Visa" secured payment?
No, but a lot of sites also accept paypal, and you can checkout as a guest on paypal using these cards on most sites that decline you for not having VBV. Seems stupid, but its worked for me several times. |
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is it possible for a pool operator to skim TH from the pool?
say you had a 1PH pool, made up of 500 operators of various gh/th
Do you think the operator could skim a small amount from each operator, without them noticing, and sell it on?
I suspect this happens in a traditional pool or two from time to time, but that's all I'm going to say about that. It would be harder to have this happen at PBmining though because they are paying the theoretical rate of return rather than the varied rate of return that normal mining gear and erlang distributed block finds would provide. It's much easier to skim when users are accustomed to variance in a normal pool. In PBmining I can do a calculation and see my expected return. I would know something is wrong with my calculation or theirs if the numbers didn't agree. Isn't that strange in itself that they pay the theoretical rate of return rather than what actually happens? This guy trying to sell me a 1th miner won't show me a pic of the miner, yet will happily give me 24 hours mining at 1th. Why on earth would he be able to mine for me, yet not show me a pic? unless he's a skimming pool operator? I'm just gonna HODL I think. |
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is it possible for a pool operator to skim TH from the pool?
say you had a 1PH pool, made up of 500 operators of various gh/th
Do you think the operator could skim a small amount from each operator, without them noticing, and sell it on?
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About payments - it is entirely likely they are mining on Eligius or something similar with their equipment and just don't want to be traced, watched and audited by customers. Proving some coins are generated would not disprove a Ponzi just like proving coins are shuffled would not prove a Ponzi. The question is more complex than that, unfortunately.
I agree, but that alone didn't make me think a ponzi. I asked how they managed to acquire 15th of mining equipment in days after selling out (for the second time) their 14TH. No answer I asked if they could post a pic of a single mining rig. No answer. I asked if they could show us even just a small amount of mined coins. No answer. It's the combination of everything that makes me suspicious. And the "Well if you're suspicious then don't bother, we don't need new customers so go elsewhere" which is a classic scammer approach. Rather than try and gain new customers (why else did they add 15TH to their hardware if not to gain new customers) they simply get defensive and tell me to go away. The whole thing is sketchy. |
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I doubt wall street will ever get involved because wall street has enough money to just turn around, create a bitcoin version where they are the early adopters, and push it on the masses.
There is zero interest in them making us stupidly rich, when they could do it themselves and for themselves.
Everything that bitcoin is great for, can be copied (has been copied multiple times)
Wall street can spend billions of dollars developing and marketing an alternative which will make them money, and they can integrate it with their own payment processing systems such as visa.
Besides, to the average person on the street bitcoin means anarchy, silkroad, scams and failed exchanges.
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