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881  Economy / Trading Discussion / buying bitcoins in the USA on: August 16, 2014, 07:06:47 AM
What is the easiest/simplest method for a noob? Coinbase looks like it takes too long, I'm trying to explain to my friend in the USA.

In the UK we have instant irreversible bank transfers so LBC is pretty good and only a few % over spot usually, what is the fastest, least hassle option in the USA?
882  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Looking to sell 10.234 BTC on: August 16, 2014, 07:04:25 AM
If you had no idea how to sell bitcoins quickly without getting scammed, and you have a friend who has ten bitcoins (and presumably knows enough about bitcoin to know how to do so) why did he give you 10 btc instead of just selling them himself and giving you the cash?

This story is retarded
883  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 16, 2014, 07:00:51 AM
Never realised how thinly traded this is.

You could move bitfinex and bitstamp up by $50 each with $2 million!!
884  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Looking to sell 10.234 BTC on: August 16, 2014, 03:27:09 AM
 Roll Eyes
885  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: August 15, 2014, 04:33:56 PM

I don't think pbmining is using any money on advertising. All pbmining ad's I've seen lately has been paid by pbmining customers trying to get refferals.

Do they not pay users for advertising for them? That's normally how affiliate marketing works.

Also jumping to a random page of pbminings post history it's clear that they spend tons of money on advertising: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=195208;sa=showPosts;start=260

Just check the weekly advertising threads by theymos, I've seen PBMining bidding up to 5 or so btc per week for advertising
886  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: August 15, 2014, 03:49:36 PM
That's also the only thing that bothers me, but I doubt that's going to change. This grew from probably a garage operation into something quite large, by a man who figured it could all backfire somehow and seeing the insane reactions here by some total wacko's the best thing is to stay underground. Since then the idiocy displayed by some has only grown bigger and bigger and I've seen nothing less then the virtual equivalence of hanging mobs. Totally disgusting. I don't believe PBMining will go public. Not with the owner having to turn from "hidden is best" to "out in the open", while general idiocy has grown bigger then ever. Not in constantly changing attitude of governments which makes things legally awkward. Out in the open, at best, will be a (virtual?!) address in some tax paradise where lawmakers don't deliberately try to discourage coin businesses. Out in the open in Canada would instantly mean total destruction of profitability for all, so be glad.

Who's asking them to go public?

We just want pics/videos of the mine.

Practically every other megamine takes the time to show off some pics but pbmining refuses.

They spend several btc weekly on advertising targeted towards noobs. Why not save the money and just take a pic or two and you will guarantee 50% extra customers (guessing 50% think its a ponzi. Could be much more)

We also want to know a mining address.

There has never been a legit mining operation offered to the public which refuses to publish the address they are mining with other than pbmining and the other ponzis.

The coin mixing just puts the icing on the cake. I haven't even heard an excuse explaining the obfuscation from pbmining apologists.

It's quite sad that the pbmining users are forced to make up hypothetical situations where pbmining could possibly be real.

Please just stop advocating for something that is almost guaranteed to be a ponzi.

Everyone here should be demanding they take the basic steps to prove they are legit but as long as naive investonomers keep spamming referral links and giving them advertising money, nothing will change.


Exactly, dumbasses like mike18 are acting like people are demanding they post their home address and threatening them. No ones done that, just asked for proof it's not a ponzi.

They spend several bitcoins a week on advertising which they wouldn't even need if they posted a tiny bit of proof they were legit.

Instead even bitcoin devs are saying they're probably a ponzi, lol.

Gonna laugh my ass off when this goes tits up
887  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Selling on LocalBitCoins? Watch out.. on: August 15, 2014, 01:13:48 PM


I bet you say that to every civilian who exercises their right against self-incrimination.

I think cops are fucking retards too usually, but when they're trying to set someone up for conspiracy they're smarter than you.
888  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Selling on LocalBitCoins? Watch out.. on: August 15, 2014, 09:43:11 AM
As if government is absolutely constrained by laws. Jesus... /brickwall

You're right, they'd arrest you before you'd legally committed conspiracy, and then any prosecutor would simply throw it out right away whilst your lawyer laughed at the charges.

Police know conspiracy laws better than you do, they wouldn't blow their wad too soon.

There are effectively no real punitive consequences for judicial misconduct, malicious prosecution, and false arrest.

Go elsewhere to trick people ignorant of that fact into self-incrimination.

Oink.

You're a fuckin retard
889  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Selling on LocalBitCoins? Watch out.. on: August 15, 2014, 05:45:40 AM
As if government is absolutely constrained by laws. Jesus... /brickwall

You're right, they'd arrest you before you'd legally committed conspiracy, and then any prosecutor would simply throw it out right away whilst your lawyer laughed at the charges.

Police know conspiracy laws better than you do, they wouldn't blow their wad too soon.
890  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why don't people under ISIS rule buy bitcoin? on: August 15, 2014, 04:20:10 AM
You're all kidding, right?  ISIS is not Al-Queda or the Taliban, ISIS is like the first international terrorist organization to have a huge social media presence and they supposedly have $2 billion in cash.  They've definitely heard of Bitcoin.


Iraqis owning Bitcoin is like Argentines owning Bitcoin.  In theory it sounds possible but in practice who wants to exchange their Bitcoin for some worthless currency?  They're supposedly paying $1000 equivalent in Peso for Bitcoin in Argentina..  in Iraq they'ld have to pay like $2000+ equivalent in Dinar.



lol shut up

ISIS are a bunch of lunatic Sunnis who've taken control of the Sunni dominated region in a place where the security forces didn't give a rats ass.

They're media savvy lunatics who filled a vacuum, don't fall for their propaganda. They'd get stomped if they invaded any other country.

Iraqis are a weak people who won't fight to save their own countrymen. If you dropped the entire ISIS force into any western nation they'd be stomped so thoroughly it'd be laughable.

As for why people in Iraq aren't using bitcoin, are you fuckin shitting me? The post above this one sums it up, how fucking sheltered are you idiots? They have bigger concerns on their mind, like the genocidal lunatics running around in humvees.
891  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: August 15, 2014, 04:09:36 AM
If anyone wonders why I care so much and have repeatedly pointed out this obvious ponzi is a ponzi, it's because stupid scams like this harm us all.

It mostly preys on noobs (along with a few who should know better)

The owner is involved in the bitcoin mining world so he can talk the talk when needed.

But when the ponzi collapses, all you noobs are gonna go running to law enforcement demanding recompense, and you'll tell everyone you know that bitcoin was a scam, that you were mining and you were robbed.

Ponzis like this are bad for the long term future of bitcoin, and the more people that realise that the better.

tl:dr when you lose your money don't blame bitcoin, blame your stupid greed.
892  Economy / Goods / Re: Anonymous reloadable prepaid plastic VISA ATM cards with own IBAN on: August 15, 2014, 03:59:07 AM
I've used 20 of these cards with zero issues, I dunno what they're blocking them for but I use them for travelling as they don't get frozen like normal cards when you move around a lot.
893  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: August 15, 2014, 03:56:31 AM
Gavin Andresen Suspects Ponzis in Bitcoin Cloud Mining

 Cheesy Cheesy

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/gavin-andresen-suspects-ponzi-schemes-bitcoin-cloud-mining/2014/08/14


894  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: PBmining - legit? on: August 15, 2014, 03:55:19 AM


lol,

You heard it from me first Cheesy

If anyone wonders why I care so much and have repeatedly pointed out this obvious ponzi is a ponzi, it's because stupid scams like this harm us all.

It mostly preys on noobs (along with a few who should know better)

The owner is involved in the bitcoin mining world so he can talk the talk when needed.

But when the ponzi collapses, all you noobs are gonna go running to law enforcement demanding recompense, and you'll tell everyone you know that bitcoin was a scam, that you were mining and you were robbed.

Ponzis like this are bad for the long term future of bitcoin, and the more people that realise that the better.

tl:dr when you lose your money don't blame bitcoin, blame your stupid greed.
895  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Selling on LocalBitCoins? Watch out.. on: August 15, 2014, 02:50:48 AM

Once you say "yeah I might know a guy" to the entrapping police officer, you've provided probable cause to arrest for conspiracy to commit murder and prima facie evidence for prosecution, despite your actual intent. Just about every conspiracy defendant claims "but I was just trying to be a good Samaritan!" and they fail.

The only things you should say to entrapping police should be: "I'll discuss it with my lawyers, {the name of the District Attorney} and {a well-known defense attorney}. We'll be in touch, bye."

No, if you said "I know a guy who might be interested" and then promptly called the police/FBI (a different LE agency than this guy worked for obviously) then you could not be prosecuted. You haven't done anything illegal under a conspiracy law because you haven't agreed to a specific act.

How the FUCK could you promptly call the police WHEN YOU ARE IMMEDIATELY PLACED IN HANDCUFFS!? Do you have a cellphone in your brain?

Never mind, from your first post I thought you knew what conspiracy laws meant.

Then you would have replied differently.

You clearly don't understand conspiracy laws. A vague "I might know a guy" is not conspiracy, you need to commit to a specific act. So you say you know a guy and take their phone number, the police are dancing with glee over the fact they're gonna set you up in a proper conspiracy and then you introduce them to an FBI agent and laugh your ass off at the ensuing mess.

You cannot be charged with conspiracy unless you commit to a SPECIFIC act.

Examples of times you can be charged with conspiracy
"I want you to kill MrPiggles"
"I need a hitman to kill MrPiggles"
"I want to import 10 kilos of cocaine on this flight like so.."

Not conspiracy
"I might know a guy can I have your phone number"
"I'd like to be a rich cocaine dealer"
"I wish that guy was dead"


Simple enough for you? Conspiracy laws aren't that complicated.

896  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is failing, People are getting out, $550 in 24 hours on: August 14, 2014, 08:56:28 AM


that's wrong, people told you on the internet they don't give a shit about losing money is just fooling others, they would cry to die in the real life if bitcoin failed,
even everyone in this forum starts buying won't stop the drop, bitcoin is over price, blind buying doesn't work to support such a price, $1 per coin may be ok but eventually will failed
you need huge new money, however most people isn't buying at all (you said you buy all the time but i know you know we all know you haven't bought at all which is correct thing to do, stop buying or lose more)

so, no new money, everyone is cashing out, what will be the result of this? look at the ponzi scheme

You are here for no reason other than to induce panic sells, it's your entire reason to post and you appear to be able to do it full time?

You are clearly a paid troll of some sorts, but I wonder who could possibly be paying someone to yammer on about negatives all day long on a bitcoin forum? Who stands to gain?

Or are you really unemployed and just hate bitcoin so much it consumes your entire waking hours?
897  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Selling on LocalBitCoins? Watch out.. on: August 14, 2014, 08:14:48 AM

Once you say "yeah I might know a guy" to the entrapping police officer, you've provided probable cause to arrest for conspiracy to commit murder and prima facie evidence for prosecution, despite your actual intent. Just about every conspiracy defendant claims "but I was just trying to be a good Samaritan!" and they fail.

The only things you should say to entrapping police should be: "I'll discuss it with my lawyers, {the name of the District Attorney} and {a well-known defense attorney}. We'll be in touch, bye."

No, if you said "I know a guy who might be interested" and then promptly called the police/FBI (a different LE agency than this guy worked for obviously) then you could not be prosecuted. You haven't done anything illegal under a conspiracy law because you haven't agreed to a specific act.

How the FUCK could you promptly call the police WHEN YOU ARE IMMEDIATELY PLACED IN HANDCUFFS!? Do you have a cellphone in your brain?

Never mind, from your first post I thought you knew what conspiracy laws meant.
898  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Selling on LocalBitCoins? Watch out.. on: August 14, 2014, 02:54:59 AM

Once you say "yeah I might know a guy" to the entrapping police officer, you've provided probable cause to arrest for conspiracy to commit murder and prima facie evidence for prosecution, despite your actual intent. Just about every conspiracy defendant claims "but I was just trying to be a good Samaritan!" and they fail.

The only things you should say to entrapping police should be: "I'll discuss it with my lawyers, {the name of the District Attorney} and {a well-known defense attorney}. We'll be in touch, bye."

No, if you said "I know a guy who might be interested" and then promptly called the police/FBI (a different LE agency than this guy worked for obviously) then you could not be prosecuted. You haven't done anything illegal under a conspiracy law because you haven't agreed to a specific act.
899  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: August 14, 2014, 02:43:48 AM
Where is the data center located?
===

ok found it. canada

Most of our mining operation isn't even in the country [Canada] anymore...
Hmm.. So where could they be.. I wanna know how much is their electricity rate

They originally said they were in Canada, then when Canada said something or other legal about bitcoin mining they magically and overnight moved their entire ponzi mining operation to Iceland.

It's pretty impressive tbh

Ummm... Where does it say that they originally had their mine in Canada, and then moved it to Iceland? If you don't have proof, please don't spread fud.

They originally said they were in Canada, they moved it to Iceland. I didn't screenshot their lies.
900  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: August 13, 2014, 02:49:45 PM
Where is the data center located?
===

ok found it. canada

Most of our mining operation isn't even in the country [Canada] anymore...
Hmm.. So where could they be.. I wanna know how much is their electricity rate

They originally said they were in Canada, then when Canada said something or other legal about bitcoin mining they magically and overnight moved their entire ponzi mining operation to Iceland.

It's pretty impressive tbh
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