Same story with PBmining.com Won't provide pics, won't show any newly generated coins, taken 100 btc so far this month - mostly after advertising here. look at them refusing to post pics or even show proof of mining here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418183.640Got 10 btc earmarked to invest in mining personally and everywhere I look is a scam |
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I just realized something too. Why did we close our order page for days at a time from selling out. If what you were saying was true, we would have just run straight through no matter what. I guess according to your theory that could have been just for show, but still.. that's a lot of money we were missing out on during those times.
Yes, exactly, it was what nearly convinced me you were legit. but then instead of adding 3TH or something, you managed to add 15th. That made me slightly skeptical, so I come on to your thread and ask to see some newly generated coins or a pic of all this mining equipment and you give me the run around, "don't invest if you're suspicious, we can't provide newly generated coins for some stupid reason, blah blah" And now I am 100% positive you're running a ponzi. You don't own a camera phone? explain how takin a picture of your mining gear would jeopardize sales contracts or security? Remove the GPS date from your pic if you're worried about that. You're giving no credible reason for your inability to show either a picture of a mining farm or newly generated coins. You're not in the CIA, you're not selling cocaine on silk road, you're running a legal business, your extreme shadiness and paranoia just makes you look like a fraudster |
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Why?
Why do you need to hide?
The blockchain is public, why on earth would you need to be hiding where your coins come from unless you're a ponzi and you're not generating them?
We do not want to violate our sales agreements and there are other issues which may put our entire PONZI operation and customers at risk. don't need to take on people who are going to question and possibly expose your operation at this stage of the game.
I fixed that one quote for you |
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I highly doubt he has made his initial investment back yet. Also, our system works different than what you're used to. The coins come from all directions, and make many hops to get away from prying eyes like yours.  Someone discovered one of our addresses and we removed it immediately from the pool. Payouts are also fed from our insurance wallets to cover any performance reductions or downtime of the hardware That is one of the key features of PB Mining.  Why? Why do you need to hide? The blockchain is public, why on earth would you need to be hiding where your coins come from unless you're a ponzi and you're not generating them? |
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It's impossible to convince some people that leancy which is run by some fraudster and pays 5% a day isn't a ponzi, I have zero chance of convincing your paying "customers" that you're not a ponzi.
And I, as one of those customers, am very pleased with the job pbmining is doing!
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I will repeat this again, our priority is taking care of our customers, not gaining new sign-ups.
And I, as one of those customers, am very pleased with the job pbmining is doing! Have you made your initial investment back? Do you see newly generated coins into your wallet? |
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You can try "exposing" us all you want, in fact I have said numerous times we welcome people to take us to scam accusations. It does not affect our guarantee to pay our customers for the entire 5 year contact term. We have a responsibility to do that and we will follow through with it.
ooooh it's guaranteed! It's impossible to convince some people that leancy which is run by some fraudster and pays 5% a day isn't a ponzi, I have zero chance of convincing your paying "customers" that you're not a ponzi. When you run off in 6 months with a huge stack of bitcoins they'll probably be suffering from stockholm syndrome and really believe what ever stupid excuse "i got hacked/dog has cancer/mining farm got hit by lightning" that you use. If you have no interest in new signups, why did you double your "hashing power" and open to new registrations? |
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Will they work with PAYPAL UK? I answered this question in your PM, but will answer here again anyway, so the others could see: Probably not, because UK PayPal requires UK bank account to be verified, as far as I know. These cards have Polish bank accounts attached to them. Same goes for US and Canada PayPals. Although, I never tried these cards with US, Canaa or UK PayPal, so I really can't confirm that. You can use them to purchase stuff with a UK paypal account but they will only verify a polish paypal account |
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Ok, this is what you said: Providing for our current customers is key priority, not gaining new sign-ups. If you think we are shady, then don't bother. Any new bitcoin mining company who provides all the information you are asking for is just asking for trouble. No thanks. Scam accusations are welcome, but we will continue to provide our service to our customers as we have been. I won't address this issue any longer because this will be a losing battle no matter what I say. Thanks.
We don't want to show you any information on our set up if we don't have to. We are getting plenty of business the way we are set up already. We do not want to violate our sales agreements and there are other issues which may put our entire operation and customers at risk. My suggestion to you personally would be not to invest if you are unsure about us. This goes to any others too. I will repeat this again, our priority is taking care of our customers, not gaining new sign-ups. Take us to scam accusations if you would like, but we will not provide you with the requested details. The address which was posted with one of our machines on Eligius has been removed and was not even meant to be seen. If anything, less business would be okay with us because we don't have enough manpower enough to deal with the customer service demand. We are working around the clock just to take care of everybody and we are growing faster than we can manage. This is what I got from it:
We're a Ponzi and we're scamming loads of people as it is, we don't need to take on people who are going to question us and possibly expose our operation at this stage of the game.
It would take 20 seconds to show some newly generated coins or take a picture of our mining farm, and we'd make LOADS more money since it would convince the majority of people who are skeptical, but we refuse to do either since we can't, and there are enough suckers buying without proof.
We already made ONE HUNDRED BITCOINS so haha! |
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And you ask a question of a "company" like PBMining asking for proof of coins or even just a PIC of their mining farm and they respond
We don't want to show you any information on our set up if we don't have to. We are getting plenty of business the way we are set up already. We do not want to violate our sales agreements and there are other issues which may put our entire operation and customers at risk.
My suggestion to you personally would be not to invest if you are unsure about us. This goes to any others too. I will repeat this again, our priority is taking care of our customers, not gaining new sign-ups. Take us to scam accusations if you would like, but we will not provide you with the requested details. The address which was posted with one of our machines on Eligius has been removed and was not even meant to be seen. If anything, less business would be okay with us because we don't have enough manpower enough to deal with the customer service demand.
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We need a subforum in the Gambling section for most mining sites
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I have been looking into mining for a while now.
Seems there are two kinds of mining operations:
Cex.io where the price per GH is never going to make a profit mining bitcoins, but is at least legitimate (not stealing your money)
and all the others, which show an ROI on GH/s in 50-70 days.
Most of the second type seem to have newly registered sites, a slick/simple layout, unrealistic pricing, a strange inability to demonstrate that they are actually generating ANY coins at all.
Mining lease companies are the new ponzi, imo, and from my personal research it looks like 90% of the ones out there are ponzis.
In before all the "no way man, I gave them 1 btc and they gave me back 0.09 this week so therefore no way are they a ponzi"
I can't even convince some people Leancy is a ponzi so this is hopeless.
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PBmining, I'd love to invest, and I have been looking for a reliable mining company for a while, I just have some questions
Can you please show us some newly generated coins? 29th should be showing a nice chunk of newly generated coins daily but I can't find any in any addresses associated with you.
In addition I'm curious how you managed to double your hash rate so fast, 14-29 TH is a big jump.
What machinery did you install? How did you get hold of 15TH so fast?
Can you please post pictures of your mining farm?
Thanks
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the most damaging are the mining ponzis like PBMining.
They doubled their hash rate over night, they won't provide any proof of coin generation, and they're running off with 100+ bitcoins and counting
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They doubled their hash rate in 24 hours. They won't provide anywhere that shows where their coins are generated. It's a ponzi  |
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Whoever wins, I for one, welcome our new ________ overlords.
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when you change your domain details under new(ish 2014) rules ICANN made up you must confirm it with an email to the account listed on the WHOIS info.
Obviously mark is a sloppy lazy idiot and hasn't confirmed the details via the whois info.
what a surprise.
THat's all this is, doesn't mean real suspension etc, just means mark is an idiot
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I see it,
ICANN introduced new rules, if you don't respond to their email they do this.
It doesn't mean anything from a firm as sloppy as mtGox, it just means they didn't respond to an email sent to them within 14 days.
Considering I first attempted verification on mtgox around the same time as I joined here (Aug 13) and I have yet to hear back from the second attempt I made in dec/november I am not surprised
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I'd be more interested in George Soros's opinion
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No cryptocurrency longer than 2 syllables has any chance of success whatsoever. Well unless it flows really good....
Your opinion(s) of a portmanteau of two small words (or word plus fragment) where one or both of them have 2 syllables, e.g. Ethereum? Until this post I assumed ethereum was a real word. Ethereal referring to something like ethereum. Learn something every day etc. |
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plus i would also like to know if they are going to work well in US?
