Dear Erkan,
As I have found out, your withdrawal has been sent for further investigation to our fraud department. I am sure, everything is fine and you will get your withdrawal soon, this is a standard procedure to ensure the fairness of the transaction.
Cheers!
Standard to take a month? It shouldn't take that long to check an account. Even a blood test result from a laboratory takes less than that! This kind of behaviour is why I stopped playing at FJ, For FJ to come out with a statement like that, Shows how poor their customer handling is. Too bad, they had all my favorite games and I was lucky playing there. I hope the focus moves towards a better treatment of players that's true , we do respect and understand but a security measure shouldn't take that long time. 1 month without prior notice to the player , wasn't really a good way to keep your players in convenience. i would also suggest to fix this kind security measure into equally beneficial. you do process everything faster but of course carefully and we would continue to play gladly with bigger amount maybe next time. Yes, we absolutely agree, and this usually doesn't take this long at all! We have been testing new fraud control system for around past two months and transaction period to the whole new system, which is one of the backbones of successful online casino turned out to be a little hard. But we are on it now, user should receive his funds shortly and in future security check will be much more effective and fast  i wish erkans could confirm he have receieved full amount soon. it's crazy when the price of bitcoin move up and you realize that your money are stuck somewhere and see the price get dropped of course customers has a right to blame a slow service from you fj. but yeah considering there is a transition from fj security system with the new one , erkans should be wise to wait a little more time , at least fj has stated and responded about this matter publicly. fj won't go anywhere. and sorry i just try to be not one sided considering i'm wearing fj ads in my signature that i supposed to support them. goodluck to both of you erkans and fj. |
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everybody selling bitcoin has their own reasons, there are those who think already earn enough profit
then some are selling bitcoins because the inevitable need is forced to sell them
for short term people do trading that's why they are buying and selling bitcoin continuously. and for the long term people keep holding on it but whenever they see market move unusual like a support to bearish then they follow the panic selling as they didn't want to see their money value decreased too much. yeah they are scared and don't want to take that risk usually. |
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I am not sure that gambling can help my life, gambling is an entertaiment for me
I do not think that gambling can help to get some the money to be success in the world
There is no way that gambling could help us in our life because all I know is gambling only makes us to lose our money, it is just fooling us that we could win but the real thing is it is just a bait for us to gamble more. Gambling only help us to lose our money, not to earn one. considering gambling in general considered as something detructive instead constructive , yeah it's mostly affected our lives in bad ways. you can't consider a huge amount of winning from the jackpot as helpful influence. it might work for a while helping your financial condition but once you get addicted to try more and that time you are ready to accept the fact that gambling won't give you anything good in the long run. |
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Most people Gamble for profit only! here I'm not an exceptional to this  if i have enough money to an luxury life i will quit gambling though yeah getting money wouldn't be a big deal anymore when you have a lot of it already , some people might continue the habit of gambling as they feel comfortable with it / getting a real entertainment there and of course because of gambling addiction itself. but it would easier to leave gambling when you have power or money enough to support it right? Well that is not the case with most of the gamblers. I have seen majority trying to earn money by placing bets. If a rich guy is gambling then the most common reason is entertainment or he is trying to find relief in it. That is a rare case. Fun seeking gamblers are in lesser amount than profit seeking gamblers but the right way to play this game is for the fun sake only or otherwise the results can be fatal. people always trying to gamble for the sake of entertainment , but things turned around when you realize that you are in need a lot of money. that time you would gamble for profit and that wasn't easy call. leave it whenever you can't resist with all the risk involve in gambling. the reason to gamble for almost everyone who come to a casino would always about making profit. if its for fun alone then it will be a stress free hobby,butif we relyon it as a profitthen it will only cause us troble, lets know that gambling cant be a regular source of income , we need to work for it, gamble for fun only. gambling for fun only , good if you can keep your words and sync it with the action on the table. mostly people who start to gamble can do have fun but when you have did it for long time , get a lot of loses and when you calculate everything you are in huge deficit, then the next games would always full of stress and you feel like gamble to get profit are a must. |
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In gambling theory, trying to win back after loses is desperately used by the gambling addict, because if you are in good thinking you can choose to escape and back if the negativity of your body were lost. Sometimes we can't win because there's a lot of negative vibes to our body due to stressed in our life. So I think it's better if we lost it first before playing.
Otherwise, if you feel that your not lucky in the games, I suggest to stopped and back on the next day. Because if you continue playing there's a possibility of instead of earning income, more loses you will gain.
first of all , better you take a look to op. so you might could make a pinpoint comment . he knows the risk and even make a calculation about how much his chance if chase the bets. however he failed to make it happen and instead keep chasing that and force himself he choose to do a wise action enough by accepting what he has lost and start a new one. give it a try it's okay but don't make it worse. There are still no successful story of gamblers who try to chase there winnings back, most of them failed on doing it so, so we better need to have some realization in lofe and try to weight things, maybe it's not just the money you lost but there's more, I sgop playing gambling regularly when I lose a lot, i realized i need to enjoy some of my winnings too, now I only play to have time while killing time too like if I'm waiting for appointments or some meetings. there is a success story , but did you know it didn't work last forever. they are cheering today and then crying in the next few days. it's always has an end like that. look at the op timeline , that's exactly run just like i said. the good winning always lure everyone to make more bets, chase it and feel bad once you get a lost , that's the evil circle.. in gambling. |
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in bitcoin I most admire the ability to erase the borders between countries. This is one step on the way to the people of the different States were United and saw themselves as one. May sound like utopia, but global problems such as war and the environment can only be solved together.
people should have a fresh thoughts like this instead keep saying bitcoin makes people attracted due its high price. the value still can grow but the mission of bitcoin for the better future won't get realized if people still have an outdated thoughts about how money are everything above any idealist thing. bitcoin are useful for those people who don't want to confused make a payment due different currency, bitcoin make things more simple. |
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I have experienced in forex trading about 3 years, because really hard to get consisten profit a few month ago I move to crypto trading, and now I earned some montly profit and I feel crypto trading is more easy than forex trading. The key of succes here is patient, don be greedy, good risk management and always use and learn trading plan. So crypto trading is still profitable if we really do it all that think.
more easy but with more risk involve , you know about that right. a lot of people hard to looking for a real reference on how cryptocurrency run , i mean are there a specific reason why it should go down or move? sometimes all of the reasons come randomly , mixed and even uncertain. no wonder a lot of people find it as a huge fortune only , not because of the real analysis. |
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time after time the popularity of bitcoin getting high and with the fixed supply also high demands even bitcoin price could increase unlimitedly , just the matter of time when people agree to fully adopt bitcoin and use it in daily basis , for now it's something that hard to happened. we are struggling to assure people that bitcoin are totally safe as long as you want to learn more about bitcoin with its risk. I wouldn't hear people talking about bitcoin publicly. Now, lots of people are talking it publicly and they say they wanted to integrate into bitcoin system. They exposure the will to bitcoin, in other words. the skyrocketing price from $7,000 to $11,000 pay a lot of attention , how can a digital asset / e-currency did it within a week or even just in two/three days? some people make a brave move to invest it immediately and then cash them out once the price move like 10% or so. the situation make bitcoin market so volatile , the volume booming and responding to that situation there's also some people who think it's just a bubble , sooner or later it would break out and a lot of people who don't know about the risk could become so frustated and suffering at the end of this crazy moment. |
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Patience is very important as most of us have to learn it in the hard. You could see all the price chart for top 10 coins in CMC and will understand this,
Have patience until you think you alreadybearned enough, or too much than you expected. But still holding too much can hinders us to enjoy our earnings that can result for our better future or it's reciprocal, better balance the spending and saving and live life still. that's right patience are not everything , if you think with only being patient you could reach the target of having profit through trading then you guys are wrong. everyone seems to be misleading to understand about the meaning of 'patience' in this matter , the real important role in trading are having a good skill to read the market situation wheter it's time to buy or sell due some big news that could affected the market? after that then you can go talking about patience to hold it a little longer or stop it to cut the loss. |
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yes it does because through experienced you've got techniques on how to play well on the game. on the otherhand dice game does not need too much technique because what you need more on that game is luck.
Experience matters everywhere. It might not help the gambler to win every game but if he is playing dice or slots, he will definitely get control over his emotions with time and play in limits afterwards. He will learn the true Nature of gambling with time. However A poker player can polish his skills with time. Similarly, sport bets demand good understanding of a particular sport for winning. you will never find someone who always win because of their experience , that claims sounds like bs as nothing you can prove about that right?that's okay if you believe so , but people won't take it as a serious talk . experience could help you to not fall into the same hole , when you have made a lot of mistakes with experience you could avoid it as you know already what the worst thing might happened later. |
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Most people Gamble for profit only! here I'm not an exceptional to this if i have enough money to an luxury life i will quit gambling though yeah getting money wouldn't be a big deal anymore when you have a lot of it already , some people might continue the habit of gambling as they feel comfortable with it / getting a real entertainment there and of course because of gambling addiction itself. but it would easier to leave gambling when you have power or money enough to support it right? Well that is not the case with most of the gamblers. I have seen majority trying to earn money by placing bets. If a rich guy is gambling then the most common reason is entertainment or he is trying to find relief in it. That is a rare case. Fun seeking gamblers are in lesser amount than profit seeking gamblers but the right way to play this game is for the fun sake only or otherwise the results can be fatal. people always trying to gamble for the sake of entertainment , but things turned around when you realize that you are in need a lot of money. that time you would gamble for profit and that wasn't easy call. leave it whenever you can't resist with all the risk involve in gambling. the reason to gamble for almost everyone who come to a casino would always about making profit. |
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I also tried to become a trader for the first time I was successful and I earned 30%, but the following became very difficult because of the bitcoin's high price I could not afford to buy a bitcoin so I was I decide to level up my rank first so i can apply to a signature campaign to get a bitcoin and like you i leave my bitcoin with a pro. trader.
I think so that in trading, you never lose. Either you earn a good amount of profit or you learn some great experience which can help you in making better decisions in the days to come. The thing is trading is really a good thing to do but if you are suffering again and again, then it is better to leave trading. Holding is also a good option but for that you really need to remain patient. still when you feel frustating to get lost consecutively you would always feel losing everything include your spirit. take a rest for a while and see if you can recover your deep wounds or not. keep learning whatever worst thing happened to you. and that's okay if you decide to just holding for long time instead leave it forever . make sure you make a comeback when you think everything are fine again and good to go. |
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I think we should save bitcoin, and it's better to hold your bitcoin than to sell bitcoin because bitcoin if it is stored long then the price will go up. bitcoin gives you an advantage even if you just save it in your wallet.
You said you are sure about it? Yeah I am very sure all the people are buying the bitcoin and they are saving the bitcoin for the long time. It is the time to make the future and to buy as much as bitcoin you can buy at the time so you will know the value of the bitcoin in the coming days and you will see how fast the bitcoin is getting high so I am very happy about the bitcoin future. yeah no chance for you to buy it as low as today , the price would keep moving up as the demands are so unstoppable time after time. the crash might happened for once or twice in a year , but think about the recovery . it would gain more than what it was . just take a look to the bitcoin story in the last few years . you can't see a real crash stay for long time. |
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In gambling theory, trying to win back after loses is desperately used by the gambling addict, because if you are in good thinking you can choose to escape and back if the negativity of your body were lost. Sometimes we can't win because there's a lot of negative vibes to our body due to stressed in our life. So I think it's better if we lost it first before playing.
Otherwise, if you feel that your not lucky in the games, I suggest to stopped and back on the next day. Because if you continue playing there's a possibility of instead of earning income, more loses you will gain.
first of all , better you take a look to op. so you might could make a pinpoint comment . he knows the risk and even make a calculation about how much his chance if chase the bets. however he failed to make it happen and instead keep chasing that and force himself he choose to do a wise action enough by accepting what he has lost and start a new one. give it a try it's okay but don't make it worse. |
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The meaning of being professional is to control you emotions and don`t mix them with business. Unfourtunaltely the majority of us are new traders and this is a normal thing. For myself I try to consult with my partner and when there are 2 persons emotions don`t mix easily.
yeah it's about emotion management when you ready to be in the next level of trading , you get profit and that time you should figure out how to keep it up and make it steady. not just a one time profit that could ended up with negative again. the one who have experienced enough would know that having a target ( a reasonable and worth target ) are necessary , so things wouldn't went wrong. |
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Every single coin is going down in the list. I have never seen like this where every single coins go down. I have seen where most of them were down but at least 10 or 20 coins were up.
This is not the first time, it is normal correction after huge surge. I have seen blood bath like this before too, not once but many times. Huge surge with several corrections in middle will make pump stables and help to build enough buy support to keep prices high. Corrections are necessary for healthy price growth. bloody market means it's time to prepare your buy position , you should always hold both crypto and fiat at the same time. so you wouldn't miss the opportunity like this. a shocking price growth of bitcoin in the last few days considered as just a bubble it's unwarranted by the fundamentals. the price move up quickly with less support and now we can see the real price in the next days. |
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Yes I do, when I'm gamble I usually set myself when I lose twice in a row I'll stop gambling because once I try try to gamble and I lose continuously I lose a lot of money so I limit myself.
Me too. I always set limits to myself because I don't want to get greedy. I do that when I lose because if I continue to gamble I will be losing much more money and that's not really cool. Greed is not allowed to take over me. Greed is dangerous, my friend. noone want to become a greedy person , but it comes just like that to you whenever you have started to play. so you can't really make sure that you won't get addicted later as gambling would always addictive and leading everyone to have a feeling to become someone who able to get everything what you want , set up a limit wouldn't work no matter what you played. that's the reality of gambling where everything run crossed the limit. Gambling is an addictive game and indeed it triggers greed inside of a person. Nobody likes to become a victim of suffering and controlled by his emotions but once a person starts playing it becomes difficult for him to stop at the right time. The basic reason behind such a behavior and thinking of gamblers is that they think it is possible to make money by placing some bets which is definitely very unreal of them. it would just become useless even you have a good bankroll management , as gambling addiction destroy everything . but yeah at least you have put an effort to avoid things could gone worse , i just think gambling are so destructive so you should be wise on making decision to play there , it's easy to get in but you would struggle to leave . |
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I think trading is more risky.. As you said skill based gambling.. This is based on skill. Not anyone can just do it. So with skill, come a whole lot of lessons that will reduce your risks. I once heard a stat that said 90%/of traders lose their money.. That is why there's not enough money for anyone to pay me that would make me go into trading
You are one person which i see who said that trading is more risky than skill based gambling. It is your experience, that's why you are saying it, but in my experience, i know skill based gambling, depend on our skills, so same thing is happen in trading. We do trading behalf of our skills then i don't see any different between skill based gambling and trading, for me both are same. I agree. You see skill based gambling is a lot more similar to trading than most types of gambling games. You'll have a good chamce of getting good results if you prepare and study first the aspects that can give you an advantage. That applies for both. Since they both requires skills to win or to earn, then it is really much better , having knowledge on something is already an advantage for us to be able to win, but still needs a proper timing and application to truly gain on both activities. Just focus on what you think you have the advantage, skilled based gambling is not very popular because majority of the gamblers has no skills, they just want to be based on luck so they lose most of the time. What is the best way to make money now IMO is through trading because you control your destiny and the good thing is the entire crypto market is growing, so as long as you know how to manage your capital, you can earn regularly. you could learn how to become a player that has a lot of skills, but the real question are about how worth it is?considering gambing would never give you profit in the long run you should decide what you gonna do then and that's pretty clear trading without any skill has lower risk than any kind games to gamblie. you won't get hurt much with trading. |
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The most common way that i know that almost all the bitcoin users uses bitcoin is only for investment and there is nothing than that. Bitcoin is just an investment for them and using bitcoin as a payment is not an option for them anymore because they can use their cash to make payments while bitcoin is here because they want an investment.
you just talking against satoshi vision to make bitcoin as a currency used widely , indeed people nowadays looks like more to use it as an investment and taking opportunity in short time to make money of it. it would just make the market chaos for sure , if you think for the better future , bitcoin are the answer for the next generation of financial service , bitcoin as investment should be in the number 2. |
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Trading is very unpredictable job, I heard many times that trading is one of the way to make profit but many people are lose their money and also me i got back luck to it because of my emotion. Maybe 2017 is not my destiny on trading. Trading needs a lot patience with undying strategy to it and control your emotion.
Trading is not for everyone, people have different characteristics and for every successful trader there are probably 10 traders that are not successful at all that is why I do not trade since I know that I will lose all my money if I tried to outperform the market. it's always unpredictable when you didn't put a serious effort enough to dig more information about the market movement, things that could have huge influence etc. and you just trade randomly then yeah no wonder trading would be unpredictable. it's always about making speculation but at least when you have the data , you won't trade like looking for luck there. |
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