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241  Economy / Exchanges / Re: What is with Bitmex???? on: October 13, 2020, 11:29:48 AM
It'll be interesting to see what effect Bitmex either going full sensible or buggering off will have. It's possible that it'll be the same as when all the piece of shit Chinese zero fee exchanges died, Bitcoin finally took off after years of suppression.

I've no doubt Bitmex commanded the price for long stretches as people played with spot markets to screw with others on it.
242  Other / Archival / Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards on: October 10, 2020, 09:02:09 PM
I assume that is the case, so it would be good to warn all those who use their crypto in this way to be aware that even if they use a card issued in another country, it does not mean that their tax office cannot get their data and ask them to explain the origin of crypto and to pay taxes.

Just as important is to emphasise how flaky many of these card services have been in the past. Most are at the mercy of other service providers who may pull the cards without any notice.

You have to treat these as the hottest of hot wallets. Load and spend. Do not linger, don't leave anything on them and don't run anything important in your life through them.

I remember when the first Bitpay card shut down, along with all the other ones provided by the same company. There was literally no notice. There were people tweeting Bitpay who had thousands of dollars on the card and they were halfway across the world and that was their only spending option.
243  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-10-08] Bitcoin Can't be Correlated to Traditional Assets on: October 10, 2020, 11:24:49 AM
After several thousand years gold is still largely speculation, or perhaps that has grown as its usage as any sort of money has waned with more useful things coming along.

But deflation/hoarding will be just as big a factor in stopping it progressing into a currency, perhaps the prime one in time.
244  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Start your own Bitcoin ATM business on: October 09, 2020, 11:55:49 PM
I would really like to see an anonymous ATM operator turn up and give us a breakdown of their costs and profits. Since there are so many someone must be making money, or then again it could be the classic crypto shit throwing at the wall and finding nothing sticks which is the fate of most of these things.

I don't understand who chooses to use them so I don't understand who chooses to run them.
245  Economy / Economics / Re: Does China plan to go communist? on: October 09, 2020, 11:37:43 PM
They have uncovered the pleasures of combining the fruits of unfettered capitalism along with reserving the right to torture, oppress and slaughter whoever the hell they feel like. I'll bet most governments look on at that combination with a great deal of envy.

Why would they give up either of those abilities? Throw in a population that mainly doesn't seem to mind and it kinda looks like the future, sadly. The candy ass West has given them the tech to steal and the money to get rolling while at the same time started to commit slow cultural suicide which they must find highly amusing to watch. They'll steamroller us lot soon enough.
246  Economy / Economics / Re: Where the top world Elite Rich guys invest on: October 09, 2020, 10:50:37 PM
Do you really want to know where the ultra elites invest apart from stocks?

It's also the form of their stock investment too. You're going to get pre allocations, insider info, block buys. Compared to what normal people can access it's effectively its own market.
247  Other / Archival / Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards on: October 09, 2020, 09:17:16 PM
Maybe adding countries that are not supported would be good.

Yes. That one's an important one. Unlike the old Wavecrest cards, where they clearly didn't give a shit and proved it too, most of these have extremely limited availability outside the usual places.

Probably the most important bit of info. It'll save many a hope being dashed.
248  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin over $10,000 for the past 66 days on: October 09, 2020, 08:50:44 PM
I'll wait a few more years before believing 'we will never see four figures again' but it is still a very meaningful stat.

It's the lows and consistency that tells the real story, not some ridiculous high that sustains for a few seconds. Anyone can make a spike if the market is absent enough. Creating a lasting base takes vastly more depth and that's the really informative metric.
249  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How wallets make money? It is worse than you think. on: October 09, 2020, 07:25:46 PM
Who wants to download a wallet just for bitcoin, for example? Having coinomi support is quite handy and make your coin more popular and easier to hold

You'd probably be better off doing that. I can well imagine people will downgrade the security and competence of their wallet to accommodate shitcoins and stick the BTC in there as well for convenience.

The best Bitcoin wallets have been around for much longer and have many more eyes on them than much of the multi stuff out there.
250  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC's Early Investors POLL on: October 09, 2020, 05:16:04 PM
So far as I know, Satoshi Nakamoto created bitcoin at first for fun and did not have a clear purpose, but when there are cases in finance involving government, it may end up making him think hard to create a coin that can have a selling value but its circulation and price cannot be controlled by anyone.

Erm, the purpose is clearly stated in the message embedded in Bitcoin's very first block.



I have never, ever seen any indication of fun or lack of purpose anywhere. It oozed purpose from the first moment it appeared.

251  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cryptotalk Future on: October 09, 2020, 04:50:24 PM
They can't afford to lose this site, they have invested so much money for the promotion and will just die, no, it might remain a bad forum but it will live.

That's the telling thing about it. If it went away right now no one other than the spammers hammering it would care in the slightest. It has made zero impact beyond them whatsoever. It is nothing other than a corpse with a few strings being pulled to give the illusion of life.

I can't see them changing their approach so it's going to continue absorbing money and achieving zilch. I would've pulled the plug a long, long time ago.
252  Other / Archival / Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards on: October 09, 2020, 04:38:07 PM
Handy list but Revolut isn't a crypto card. You can't deposit or withdraw real crypto, all you can do is buy price exposure through their app. The purpose of these cards is to exchange and spend. That does not.

253  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-10-08] Bitcoin Can't be Correlated to Traditional Assets on: October 09, 2020, 04:28:38 PM
But many of the people who buy it will be the exact same people who are dicking with stocks.

There's a really weird blind spot many commentators and others have about this. They seem to think Bitcoin lives in its own little vacuum where the rest of the world is mysteriously shut out.

It's those pesky humans who decide its course and movements and they're rather samey wherever you go. Until they get hungry and bubble it's going to behave much like many other things.
254  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC's Early Investors POLL on: October 09, 2020, 04:16:34 PM
You asked a longstanding Bitcoiner for compensation because you didn't educate yourself earlier? That's an unusual approach.

Satoshi had enough foresight to create Bitcoin. No doubt he expected the various phases it would go through before it reached its full potential. Hoarding and speculation is one of the early ones.
255  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: United States CFTC Charges BitMEX Owners! on: October 08, 2020, 07:28:05 PM
Since many a country won't let you buy anything in good old cash over a certain sum anyone expecting a fully untraceable coin to be left to flourish in peace is a crazyhead. It's the way of the world. It's crap but it is what it is. If I was balls deep in privacy I would have planned accordingly from the moment I entered.
256  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How wallets make money? It is worse than you think. on: October 08, 2020, 06:11:29 PM
The first thing I thought when I read about this, how do others manage, especially the ones which support way fewer coins and electrum is probably the best example, they even don't have a donation address listed on the website, or I can't find it which is almost the same.

I assume some wallets are hoping to be bought out. There'll come a time where their market lead can't be beaten. Others may extort shitcoin communities like Coinomi are doing here. Others may simply choose to con their users like Mycelium and their token sale what paid for their holiday to Spain and was never heard from again.

It's definitely a curious area.
257  Economy / Exchanges / Re: What is with Bitmex???? on: October 08, 2020, 06:07:11 PM
Ok then only Bitmex would be accused and I have read that many U.S whales will face problems for unregulated trading, taxes.

This detailed informations about all these people have to be solid, they have to operate with real numbers and the only way to do this is to have access to Bitmex data one way or another.

Taxes of course, as for 'unregulated trading' it's the platform's problem for allowing it. I'm unaware of any law about a civilian taking their business to places they may not approve of. Maybe there is one. Dunno.
258  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How wallets make money? It is worse than you think. on: October 08, 2020, 05:59:03 PM
That makes me dislike Coinomi rather intensely. They'll have many users who don't bother to check or update all that often and that leaves them in the lurch.

I get that it costs them money in labour but ransom demands are not cool.

How these things are funded is something people should take more time to ponder. It wouldn't take much for a developer to throw in the towel and be bought out by an asshole. Most people just mindlessly update forever and don't conceive of there being another actual human somewhere in charge of it who's as fallible as they are.
259  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: United States CFTC Charges BitMEX Owners! on: October 08, 2020, 05:53:52 PM
and it seems to me that after Bitmex the other targets will be the privacy altcoins:

The only thing they can really do is telling exchanges to drop them and they will, apart from the no shits given outliers. It'll be the least surprising development in cryptoland's history.

It'll be interesting to see how this moulds their markets.
260  Economy / Economics / Re: MicroStrategy Buys $250M in Bitcoin, Calling the Crypto ‘Superior to Cash’ on: October 08, 2020, 04:39:50 PM
https://twitter.com/SquareIR/status/1314190152663617536#

Square have just put 1.8% of their cash into BTC too. One of the less surprising ones of course but still, 50 million dollars thrown at it isn't to be sniffed at.
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