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2921  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: British Tax Authority Updates Cryptocurrency Guidelines, Says It Is Not Money on: November 04, 2019, 06:04:53 PM
I think the tax authority is being careful with words because the word 'money' connotes something significant and the moment an item is being designated as such, it becomes a legal tender and series of events will have to follow among which include an Act of Parliament backing such, institutions adjusting their payment platforms and most importantly being accepted by fellow countryman as a medium of exchange.

Legal tender is separate from money. Northern Irish and Scottish bank notes aren't legal tender in England. Scottish bank notes aren't even legal tender in Scotland. Legal tender's definition is a narrow one. Tons of stuff can be called money without being legal tender and it's easy to think many a Bitcoin fan doesn't regard it as money either.

This wee angle isn't super relevant.
2922  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-11-01] How Many More Birthdays Until Bitcoin Wins? on: November 04, 2019, 05:47:21 PM
I'm glad he acknowledged it's a dumb comparison because it is one. They do also acknowledge it's human nature to make the comparison.

Everyone's going to have a different version of what winning means. In plenty of ways it already has gone further than anyone could possibly have hoped for in the time it has considering the nature of its origins.

Interesting that he picked up on the valley of death thing which I think is very relevant but rarely mentioned. Comes a time when the expectations of existing speculators won't be met and you'd hope some more measured usage would be there to meet that drop in interest. That's possibly the biggest challenge in it moving forward in a timely manner.



2923  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: British Tax Authority Updates Cryptocurrency Guidelines, Says It Is Not Money on: November 04, 2019, 05:21:45 PM
It didn't surprise me that British Tax Authority says Bitcoin is not real money. We have seen similar statements from some other places too. They just see fiat currencies as real money but I believe it will change in the future.

It doesn't matter what they think of as 'real money'. The only thing that matters is value and how it moves. You could be paid in someone's idiot cousin's finger paintings and they'll tack a value on to it and tax accordingly if they identify it as income.
2924  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What makes you trust bitcoin related services? on: November 04, 2019, 05:10:53 PM
Track record and evidence of competence are the main ones. I wouldn't bother with anything that didn't have extensive reviews and reported experiences from others. Even then there are places that really are not inspiring as to how they operate so I'd need to be satisfied that they were doing things right before considering them.

It constantly blows my mind the amount of people turning up here asking whether they should trust a service that literally no one else has ever heard of. Why would you? Then again they're most likely the owner of the service.

2925  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: British Tax Authority Updates Cryptocurrency Guidelines, Says It Is Not Money on: November 04, 2019, 02:10:07 PM
This was pretty interesting and I almost knew that they won't be able to tax the income still not realised by miners in Fiat because it's pretty hard to trace such income for authorities unless they go on to subpoena it.

Almost all of the time tax is taken on trust anyway. It would require something pretty radical for them to investigate you.

It seems like a sensible policy regarding mining. Obviously no tax at all would be rather better but at least they're not as stupid or unworldly as other countries who attempted to put VAT on it.
2926  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: British Tax Authority Updates Cryptocurrency Guidelines, Says It Is Not Money on: November 04, 2019, 01:49:53 PM
it is only the tax authorities and they are categorizing bitcoin as "not money" because it makes it possible and a lot easier for them to then categorize it under their tax laws.
if they said "bitcoin is money" then they either have to don't tax bitcoin or tax any other form of money too. like when you convert your fiat to PayPal you would have to pay taxes!

So far BTC has been treated like foreign currency in UK tax terms. Profits from any foreign currency fluctuations are subject to capital gains taxes just as BTC is. It looks like not much has changed.
2927  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bakkt has traded only 7 BTC so far on: November 04, 2019, 01:32:52 PM
Looks like physically delivered bitcoin isn't such a failure after all.

And this is while things are pretty much dead, apart from the occasional spurt. Just goes to show how incapable many people are of conceiving anything beyond the next five minutes.

It will make for a very dramatic spectacle at the height of a bubble, and maybe even more so when it pops.
2928  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Bottom Has Passed, Delphi Digital Says on: November 04, 2019, 12:57:50 PM
I know some people who want to invest in Bitcoin but they are constantly waiting for a good opportunity, maybe not $1000, but something close to that number. No one can say for certain that the price will not go below $5000 again, and what I say to such people is that it is possible, their money, they decisions.

I mentioned to pal of mine that he should think about getting some BTC at $250 in 2015. He said he'd wait. He finally called me up in 2017 looking to buy $3 XRP. 

The mindlessness of people never fails to boggle my mind.
2929  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Bottom Has Passed, Delphi Digital Says on: November 04, 2019, 10:56:10 AM
I think the bottom is always one step away with the unpredictability of cryptocurrency.

There has to be one at some point, and the people who insist it's yet to come are the ones who get left behind. No one knows it's the bottom until long after it's been and gone. I presume there are plenty of 'hyperwave' tossers who are still sitting around waiting for $1000 and will be for the rest of their lives.
2930  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How do you like your sig campaign payments. USD vs. BTC on: November 04, 2019, 12:10:35 AM
From what I see, the campaigns that pay in dollars are casinos and gambling sites, while the campaigns that pay in btc are mixer and exchange. I think the explanation is because thy have more customers who make deposits in dollars. so it's easier for these sites to pay in dollars, while the exchange and mixer that has customers who deposit bitcoins makes it easier to pay in bitcoin for sign campaign participants.

I can't think of any crypto casino that has any dealings with dollars at all. If they did they certainly wouldn't last very long.

You're right in saying that they're far more likely to keep a USD peg than other services. Perhaps their customers are much more reactive to the USD price than other services or they themselves only think in terms of finishing up with USD so plan accordingly.
2931  Other / Meta / Re: Altcoin Discussion section needs some adjustment on: November 03, 2019, 11:40:59 PM
I've always felt the altcoin section should be treated rather like the end of Silent Running - left alone to drift off into space to tend to itself in a poignant manner. A bit less Joan Baez though.

I think the creation of the altcoin speculation section was a fine idea. There's a higher quality of discussion in there by adding a little focus to it.

Perhaps there should be an upper tier alt section where a thread becomes eligible for entry if it has accumulated a certain amount of merit in total. Quite a few of the threads have someone actively running them so perhaps they could also agree to hold their users to a higher standard as a condition of entry.

2932  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Comparing the biggest and most expensive campaigns: Chipmixer - Cryptotalk/Yobit on: November 03, 2019, 11:16:28 PM
i'm trying to figure out yobit's motivation for launching cryptotalk. i figure they must plan to use it as a venue to pump markets, hype up their IEOs, etc. otherwise i don't know why it would warrant such investment.

it's completely built on paid posts so if you take them away, not much will be left. at the same time, the campaigns can be paid for by a tiny % of yobit's overall revenues. it's a drop in the bucket for them so maybe they will keep paying.

I'm finding the whole thing rather befuddling. I don't know if Yobit has a trollbox but that's the most natural place to plant their manipulations. They can also place permanent banners on the trading pages which would be vastly more potent than attempting to draw people to a separate site.

And since the site pays to post you're going to get what you get here x100. No one is going to read anyone else's posts so nothing you attempt to plant is going to sink in. I can't imagine anyone would peruse it for worthwhile info. The only users you'll get there will be shitposters shitposting at each other who don't even know or care what they're shitposting about.

Interested to see what the end game is here. If nothing else I've never seen an approach quite like it before.
2933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What scares you the most? on: November 03, 2019, 11:05:12 PM
If anyone fears the areas in crypto they have full control over such as their own security then they ain't doing it right. There are enough tools and enough info out there to make yourself impregnable. Keep working on your set up until the idea of fearing something going wrong feels silly.

I think my main worry would be the majority simply losing interest. You can overcome anything if the collective will is there. If it has tailed off and faded away then it's good night. Impossible to know what could cause that but sometimes it feels people are a little too comfortable with the assurance of its future.
2934  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you know any online bitcoin wallet that gives you a debit card? on: November 03, 2019, 10:53:39 PM
BitPay is the as the best as others already mentioned.
Another alternative is Xapo.

Xapo's been dead for many, many years now. Bitpay outside the US had the same card provider and has been dead just as long. It's still limping in the US.

It all depends on where OP is. There aren't any global cards any more. In the EU you have Wirex and Coinbase as the main options. In the US it's Bitpay but you can't extract cash with it any more.
2935  Economy / Economics / Re: China’s President Xi Urges Accelerated Blockchain Technology Adoption on: November 03, 2019, 06:37:29 PM
China is peoples republic. Ruled by its citizens. It is not a dictatorship.

Erm, try running for president out of the blue and see how many body parts you finish up with. Anywhere calling itself 'Peoples' or 'Democratic' is a surefire giveaway that they're anything but.

2936  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: November 03, 2019, 01:22:44 PM
Don't sweat it. He's got the Tulip Trust to look forward to in a few short weeks, right?

Then we're all going to be reduced to cowed silence while he personally drives from door to door and forces us to inhale his red socks.
2937  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to earn merit as a Newbie? on: November 03, 2019, 10:56:09 AM
You meant to say that people who give merit look on the reputation and trust of the person and give less look at the post itself.
I do not think that's the case. Trust and merit are separate entities.

Obviously it's all about the post itself but if it's a total noob then I might be inclined to have a look at their other writings. If all of their other posts are nothing but yards of that Facebook/Twitter bounty shit then I may well be less inclined to make it rain.

One thing I definitely wouldn't do is randomly merit someone just because of who they are. There are plenty of longstanding members who don't write much of note.
2938  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cobra vs Roger Ver on: November 02, 2019, 01:21:54 AM
From watching his proclamations I've grown to assume several people were using the account at once. It's wavered all over the joint and often directly contradicts previous statements a short while later. Or maybe he's just monged on khat after midday.
2939  Other / Meta / Re: Which rank can we trust really? on: November 02, 2019, 12:12:38 AM
Accounts which have been active for a long time, and are therefore higher rank, are more likely to have built up a good reputation than a newbie account. Conversely, simply being active for a long time doesn't automatically mean more trustworthy. So although highly trusted accounts are more likely to be highly ranked, higher ranks aren't inherently more trustworthy.

The higher one's rank the bigger the opportunity to burn your account and disappear will be. I've seen many a hint that a decent number of established members don't have a pot to piss in.

No one should be under any illusion that if something landed in a long standing member's lap the temptation to exploit it will be strong and it may only not have happened because the chance hasn't arrived yet. There are enough old schoolers here who wound up screwing people.

We'll never know whether it was a long con or spontaneous but the higher up you go the more is dangled in front of you if you've placed yourself in the right circles.

There've been people I've grown up with who turned around and fucked me for piffling advantage after knowing them for decades. On the internet I'd times that possibility by a few million no matter how carefully crafted someone's rep is.
2940  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to earn merit as a Newbie? on: October 31, 2019, 01:13:51 PM
I think the most important thing is that you have to be yourself and do nothing by force. Post in threads where you feel good and know what you are writing about.

This is the best advice here.

You can instantly tell when someone doesn't give a shit about what they're writing, doesn't understand or has inserted themselves into a thread without digesting what it's actually about. You discard the first sentence as quickly as you read it and move on to the next post. It's immediately obvious here's no substance there at all.

And I'd be just as willing to merit a good question as a good answer. No one has to pretend to be some sort of authority on a subject to have an opinion on it and that's another faux pas that comes up all the time.
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