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3821  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: July 20, 2019, 01:36:34 PM
No, the good thing is that many trustworthy institutions will run enough infrastructure for anyone in the world, and hobby guys can still run btc raspi shit.

If that's the future you wish for then we may as well go full Libra. At least they're serious, competent and well funded. I'd choose Libra over a small group of psychopaths any day of the week.
3822  Other / Archival / Re: Is KYC benefit to crypto people or not on: July 20, 2019, 12:32:25 PM
Of course not. There is absolutely no benefit to a user whatsoever.

It's the price you have to pay if you want to interact with the majority of services these days. They don't want to do it either. It costs them a humongous amount of money and time. That's the price they have to pay to be allowed to operate.

We could feel better disposed towards it if it helped catch scammers, but of course they're using fake ID obtained elsewhere so it's effectively useless to stop terrorists, money launderers and drug dealers anyway.
3823  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The biggest battle for Bitcoin's life is coming on: July 20, 2019, 12:22:48 PM
2018 wasn’t enough for the battle?And also the 3,200$ price this early 2019?

Nope. They're just prices. And they were all the fault of the people present in the market, nothing else. Anyone who's been here since before this particular bubble sat back and watched the same old thing play out again. It was boring but not scary in any way.

What I got from watching the recent hearings is an awareness that too much heaviness could drive crypto away into the arms of a more willing country. If America is conscious of losing their dollar hegemony they're also conscious that remaining a world capital of crypto is more of a benefit than the alternative.

3824  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptopia has been in "maintenance" for the last 14 hours! on: July 20, 2019, 11:39:46 AM
FORMER CRYPTOPIA DEVELOPER SAYS HACK WAS ‘INSIDE JOB’

https://bitcoinist.com/former-cryptopia-developer-says-hack-was-an-inside-job/

 Roll Eyes

Article gone.

Another one here - https://steemit.com/palnet/@vcdragon/version-of-the-story-of-cryptopia-from-developer-him-self-how-it-start-and-end

The allegation is that a company named Intranel, who one of the original Cryptopia owners worked for, eased their way into running the exchange and they're the ones who did an inside job with the hack just as they were forced out.

Nothing to confirm who the writer is though.
3825  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-18] IDEX set to begin transition period for KYC and AML compliance on: July 20, 2019, 10:34:49 AM
This shows that those exchanges which will remain completely decentralized will be own completely anonymously , most likely will have shit interface and  most liekly will be shady. Otherwise they will risk to have regulators punish them.

A properly decentralised exchange will have no owner. It'll be software that lives in wallet or operates on chain. Until that happens none of these places should be billing themselves as decentralised. They may be non custodial but anywhere that relies on someone owning a domain name and hosting is an inherent weak point that can either be pressured or hacked.
3826  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Are You Afraid of KYC? on: July 20, 2019, 10:07:57 AM
This thread is revealing as to what can happen when your info leaks - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166119.msg51886832#msg51886832

ICOs  hiring 3rd parties to conduct KYC so I don't think there is anything to worry about.

I've come across plenty of third parties who looked no more or less impressive than the shittest ICOs. I was directed to one 'professional' service that did the verification through an app. On checking it on the play store it had been downloaded 100 times. That's not going to persuade me to trust them.
3827  Economy / Exchanges / Re: How LBC blocked my 5000$ without any reasons on: July 20, 2019, 09:44:13 AM
The only thing that LBC should have done better is probably not allowing him to deposit in the first place, or even not allowing him to verify with the same ID.

Do they supply an address to deposit to the moment you open an account before verification? If so considering they're KYC heavy now they shouldn't be doing that. Plenty of people won't pass it. And I've zero idea why OP would want to use them as a wallet. That's emphatically not what they're for and a potentially suicidal move even if this hadn't happened.

If I were OP I definitely wouldn't bother with LBC's own reddit sub. They'll erase anything that makes them look uncool. I'd get on r/bitcoin and r/cryptocurrency where there'll be plenty of people happy to tear them a new one.

This is a pretty weird story so perhaps it'll get some traction.
3828  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: July 20, 2019, 09:09:18 AM
At 1TB week is 52 TB year

I thought Craigy's policy all along was that they don't want little people involved in the running of BSV.

Anything that makes it more centralised is a welcome development in their eyes. Presumably the end game is one datacentre with him masturbating furiously every time those 'gigamegs' get bigger.
3829  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 19, 2019, 09:58:50 PM
The WO has gone quiet .............

Bit odd really. It's been far more active during far more boring and depressing times.

Anyway - https://twitter.com/fundstratQuant/status/1152321087360917504

3830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Libra has competitive advantages over Bitcoin. We let this happen. on: July 19, 2019, 09:35:42 PM
I watched all the recent hearings about Libra. It's impossible to put into words how much the US government despises Facebook and detests the concept of Libra.

I would put the odds of Libra being permitted to exist in the form they're proposing at - 0%

It absolutely will not happen unless it's watered down into something even more pisspoor than Paypal.



3831  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: July 19, 2019, 08:19:46 PM
The BCH post used to be fun. Now it's full of BSV nonsense, making Bcash look like a victim.

This thread has always been utter junk. It has to be one of the crappiest in the entire forum, though there's no way I can be arsed to compare it to any other alt thread.

It's nothing but nearly a thousand pages of insults. Anyone thinking of putting money in would wonder whether there was an actual coin somewhere in the equation.
3832  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Be careful of mobile wallets that holds private keys on: July 19, 2019, 03:18:21 PM
I’ve been scammed by another wallet but I do not scream and shout about it on every corner. Why would you do so? It’s disgusting Sad

Is this post a piece of performance art?

Can I come to the gallery for the launch?
3833  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin so valuable just because it was first? on: July 19, 2019, 01:39:10 PM
The nature of its launch is an immaculate conception can never be repeated. There was no such thing as miner. Anyone could do it with any machinery. It was open to all. The fact that no one knew about it is kind of unfortunate but it couldn't have been any other way.

Contrast that with the insta frenzy or loathsome scamminess of most coin launches.

The first means the longest lived. It's the most developed, the most thoroughly explored, the most battered, the most used, it's endured the most attempts to hijack it and they all failed.

All of that adds up to trust and too few people can be bothered to take that into account. It's the only thing that backs a coin's value and desirability. All of it's intangible code. What you're investing in is the giant web of trust and consensus created around it.

You can't buy trust. You can't create it. You can't fake it. The only way to gain it is by earning it. I can't see how anything else will ever be able to earn the same amount of trust.

It's pointless comparing it to companies or Facebook/Myspace. They're nothing other than disposable services that people will drop as soon as something better comes along. There's zero downside getting a better phone or hopping to another social network.

If millions of people are involved in something like BTC all of them are heavily incentivised to stay within it and work to improve it.
3834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: July 19, 2019, 10:51:05 AM
Development is very much active see below roadmap:

https://blog.nem.io/nem-foundation-catapult-roadmap-and-vision/

Do you think most people care in the slightest about development? For most it'll be three letters on their Binance account and a sinking number and that's it.

We need some signs of overall alt life to gauge what's what. I don't think we're going to get one for a length of time yet.
3835  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 18, 2019, 08:35:14 PM
So this is what I see:

Today:  $10,610
1 October: $13,793
1 November: $20,689.5
1 April 2020: $33,103.2
1 November 2020: $56,275.4
1 April 2021: $101,295.7
1 November 2021: $192,462

Weeeeeeeeeeeeee

That all looks weirdly drawn out timing wise.

To me it feels like things will get more violent and fleeting, not less. The amount of coins for sale may reduce, not increase, as holders of significant amounts may decide to sit back and watch what happens as demand becomes ever more explosive. Then the buyers may desert them the moment they decide it's time to make hay.

It could get properly chaotic.
3836  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 18, 2019, 04:50:49 PM
What do you win ?

You win the avoidance of utter ruin attempting to time things.

I'm pretty darned sure that had I arrived in Bitcoinland convinced I was a hero trader like so many people seem to I'd be left with fuck all by now.

In the years to come people will truly marvel/puke at the sums thrown around in pursuit of what were then piffling gains.
3837  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Be careful of mobile wallets that holds private keys on: July 18, 2019, 03:13:06 PM
I doubt you are serious here. You are probably just one of the many newbie accounts controlled by freewallet. Come to think of it, I have not seen any account higher rank members here who endorses freewallet. Why is that?

Wouldn't you come out of a four month slumber just to post that?
3838  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 18, 2019, 02:36:35 PM
Fuck it.

May as well pump.
3839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: July 18, 2019, 01:54:08 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. More BS "updates".

Are you undergoing another 'difficult phase'?

Good luck with it. I'll look forward to a return to the bot-esque posts shortly after.
3840  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 18, 2019, 11:16:35 AM
An interesting thing for anyone here who actually trades. Coinbase will tell you what big willies are doing - https://www.ft.com/content/59f5e8c2-a899-11e9-b6ee-3cdf3174eb89
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