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4241  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will the LN's Atomic Swaps eliminate the need for centralized exchanges? on: June 13, 2019, 09:29:42 AM
Plus hacks, and stolen coins cannot be prevented by decentralization.

Eh?

I can think of multiple exchanges that would've wiped me out had I lingered on them. If Id' never had a need to go anywhere near them this wouldn't be an issue.

An exchange is a vastly juicier hacking target than oneself so the odds of coins being hacked or stolen by the exchange are considerably higher when they're under the control of a place with a big fat target on it back.

Agreed on traders. That's a circle that possibly can't be squared.
4242  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin evangelist John McAfee fears getting arrested or disappeared on: June 12, 2019, 05:43:26 PM
Do we have a source other than McAfee himself that he is being "harassed"? As with most things everything to do with McAfee, I have serious doubts as to the validity of his claims. I wouldn't be surprised if he is making this story up to gain some attention for himself and his recently launched projects.

How can you doubt such a man? I remember an interview showing the presenter around his yard. He said Mexican cartels were watching him. He knew this because Mexican cartels eat cream cheese and they were leaving cheese wrappers all over his property.
4243  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fraud-Fighting ‘Watchtowers’ to Arrive in Next Bitcoin Lightning Release on: June 12, 2019, 05:21:02 PM
If I understand the concept correctly the technology allows for someone to monitor and identify "scam" transactions, while you are not there to identify them? The drawback for me about the LN is that you have to constantly over see the whole process and that it needs to be online 24/7. <Most of us sleep for 7 to 8 hours in a day>  Tongue

The on-chain Blockchain transactions does not need 24/7 babysitting, so I would much rather opt for a system that can run on it's own.  Roll Eyes


I'm going to be unfashionable here and say that nothing I've read or come across so far has convinced me lightning networks are anything other than an interesting wee curio.

It's been said about countless other world beating things so I'll keep that under my hat until proven wrong.
4244  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: John McAfee launches the McAfee Magic trading platform on: June 12, 2019, 03:15:13 PM
EDIT: is this actually owned by McAfee? I mean, look at the registration page:

I doubt he has an actual hand in anything any more. He probably gets some asshole calling him up in a stupor and talking him into whatever springs to mind. When he comes round in the morning if there's some money in his wallet he goes tweeting.

Can anyone point to anything successful he's seen through to market directly created by him in recent decades? I'm coming up short myself.

Even if he initiated this it's probably been put together by some street kid he bought in the Bahamas and keeps chained up in the bilge.
4245  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 12, 2019, 02:47:01 PM
Chick I was with kept commenting on how straight her nose was, and I was like maybe thas what I don't like about her. So I just checked and yup definite nose job. I hate fake straight noses.

I'm more disturbed by the midget growing out of her side.
4246  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in 2019: Are we still libertarians, cypherpunks, and crypto-anarchists? on: June 12, 2019, 01:23:13 PM
One of the important questions today is how do we "sell" Bitcoin to non-libertarians? Right now all Bitcoin advocacy can be reduced to "it's against evil banks and governments", so what should we say to people who don't view those institutions as evil?

You don't have to hate banks and traditional finance to realise they're not actually doing you any favours most of the time.

Bitcoin is politically and geographically neutral, immune from meddling and entirely under your control if you wish it to be. None of those are controversial ideas and you don't have to be a foaming nutter to believe those characteristics might be helpful to you.

It might take many more years for people to figure that out. So be it. It'll be waiting for them.
4247  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will the LN's Atomic Swaps eliminate the need for centralized exchanges? on: June 12, 2019, 01:20:12 PM
I believe not if it gives up efficiency and speed. The same debate can be applied here as it has been on "DAPPS". Not everything should be censorship-resistant and trust-minimized.

The track record exchanges have is so dire and hateful that anything that reduces the need to go anywhere near them is worth a little extra ball ache, that's if there is any with a fully developed system.

The case for a decentralised dog walking app is non existent. The case for an exchange that doesn't get hacked, steal your money, freeze you or get shut down is very, very, very strong.
4248  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coinbase Can it be trusted? Not sure on: June 12, 2019, 12:56:49 PM
does someone have any idea what can i do?

Leave and don't go back.

They are not thieves. They can be assholes who strike with no reason or justification. It's like any relationship. As soon as one party starts to express doubts you're better off dumping them first.
4249  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in 2019: Are we still libertarians, cypherpunks, and crypto-anarchists? on: June 12, 2019, 12:52:31 PM
Most people arrived for the dollars and had no ideology to start with. Bitcoin needs to be agnostic about such things because it's not going to get any better.

As long as people realise that its value largely derives from those old school principles it should continue to thrive however we see constant and never ending attacks on it from various psychopathic children.
4250  Economy / Service Discussion / John McAfee launches the McAfee Magic trading platform on: June 12, 2019, 11:37:45 AM
https://mcafeemagic.com

Would you trust this man with your dust?

It looks like it consolidates multiple exchanges into one interface.

You go first.
4251  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 12, 2019, 09:49:23 AM
Hope everything is OK brother, I’m sure it will be. I had a couple of lumps on the inside of my cheeks recently, was driving myself crazy, worrying.

Turned out they are a build up of scar tissue from bad cheek biting, most likely when I’m asleep.
Just shows you lumps & bumps are more often than not nothing serious but always good to get things checked out.

In future please specify which cheeks you're referring to as this can cause great confusion, and indeed worry, to your reader.


Good morning brothers

The new flag system: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.0

New dimension of the forum 🤪

I guess Theymos was worried that people might actually start to understand the existing trust system. Wouldn't want that to happen.
4252  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: EU Warns Malta of the Dangers of Ignoring Money Laundering on: June 11, 2019, 10:29:47 PM
Or maybe Binance will finally be brought to heel like Shapeshift was? Bitfinex and some others are still managing to offer trading without KYC if you don't transfer fiat money, but the pressure on exchanges from regulators really feels tangible now.

Only a matter of time. If they think they're somehow 'bigger' than the overwhelming weight of twitchiness when it comes to money then they're dreaming and very stupid.

It may not be cool but it's the way of the world it's not going to magically go away. They'd be better off coming in from the cold rather than drawing it out. And their non dex won't cut it either.


4253  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will be junk/trash after ban in 2 big countries on: June 11, 2019, 10:21:33 PM
this is bad news.  the decision of the Chinese and Indian governments will make BTC's popularity fall.  I know that China and India have different reasons when they ban BTC.  but i believe.  Crypto users will have many ways to make BTC legal.  maybe demonstrations can make the Indian government change their decisions.

Erm, the Chinese dislike of BTC is approaching five years old. Their shutdown of centralised exchanges took place two and half years ago. Funnily enough Bitcoin set off towards $20,000 almost as soon as that happened.

Countries like this could be leading. Instead they'll be forced to eventually concede. In some ways that's more bullish.
4254  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: EU Warns Malta of the Dangers of Ignoring Money Laundering on: June 11, 2019, 10:04:26 PM
I'm not sure as to how Malta would respond - they are probably raking in a lot of revenue since crypto businesses prefer them as a destination as opposed to countries with stricter KYC/AML requirements in the European Union.

Malta is a minnow. The more they attempt the buck the existing order of things the harder other countries will come down on them. No one operates in a vacuum. All the EU would need to do is turn off the banking and funding taps and Malta will be brought to heel in a matter of hours.

Malta would be monumentally stupid to ignore this, and this is why places like Binance flocking there may wind up getting screwed. I'd be less inclined to trust a company that moved to Malta than one that stayed put.
4255  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will be junk/trash after ban in 2 big countries on: June 11, 2019, 09:57:53 PM
China's forced reduction of crypto usability has been nothing but a positive. China brought nothing to the table other than piece of shit exchanges that fucked the price for years and mining centralisation.

As for India, who cares? They never got warmed up.

Both countries will find it seeping in through channels they can't control. In the meantime the more sensible parts of the world will carry on building.
4256  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best alternative to Tether? on: June 11, 2019, 08:39:57 PM
Soon, Facebook will launch its cryptocurrency. It is supposed that the new token will be a stable coin. AS FB is extremely popular, there is a high probability of the new coin success. So, Tether can be replaced.

And if the pile of Monero you bought with your Facebookcoin is traced by them, and you can bet your arse it'll have unparalleled surveillance built in, your Facebookcoin account will be shut and you'll be forever banned.

If they're talking to Gemini and Coinbase that must mean some conventional exchange action, but the thing that people like about Tether is that it doesn't give a shit.
4257  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Wirex- Bitcoin Debit Card | Buy Bitcoin | Mobile Banking | Send Money on: June 11, 2019, 02:28:26 PM
And what's the name of the "competition" ?
I remember you living also in the EU but I was pretty sure Wirex was the only bitcoin card left for us.

The Coinbase card is on its way to the EU at some point. I've got one for UK use and it functions fine and links seamlessly with the regular balance. Fees are high at about 2.5% but they're less sneaky than Wirex.

Edit - https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/12/coinbase-expands-its-cryptocurrency-debit-card-to-europe.html
4258  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Wirex- Bitcoin Debit Card | Buy Bitcoin | Mobile Banking | Send Money on: June 11, 2019, 02:08:32 PM
Wirex IEO looks very interesting, would be better if it was launched on Binance but OKex is still good! Smiley

My main feeling is - ugh.

Anywhere with a token gets an automatic downgrade from me. And the talk of fee discounts is an extra turn off. I presume those of us who are not turned on by the idea will be paying extra to subsidise the token holders.

I'll be keeping an eye on fees after this.
4259  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Please help newbie to go to market in the UK on: June 10, 2019, 10:40:27 PM
What about cex.io.  Is it safe? I need to do a bank transfer from the UK bank. Is it legal and will it work? Is there less charges there?

Cex.io will have the same problem as most other UK based services, their banking will be somewhere else in Europe which means waiting several days.

Coinbase is the only major service with faster payments which means depositing in a couple of hours instead.

If you choose P2P instead of an exchange you'll be able to use faster payments as it's between individuals. Back in the day I preferred https://bittylicious.com for P2P stuff but premiums over the market price can get excessive sometimes. Other times it can match exchange prices.
4260  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2019-06-10]Crypto Advocacy Center Says Proposed UK AML Regulations Violate Priva on: June 10, 2019, 09:51:49 PM
Look to the porn filter that's supposedly being introduced soon to see how clueless the British government has become when it comes to anything internet related. They're expecting anyone who wants a wank to sign up to some website to prove their age for the honour of accessing it.

Or they could get a VPN in a couple of seconds and bypass it.
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