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1021  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2013, 05:07:25 AM
A good crash now, test *real* support, let the exchanges work on improving some more and some more infrastructure being put in place, and we can be very wealthy early adopters. Alternative is 50% or more of us get shafted in a few weeks.
Although I'm pretty bullish about this week (see wager with Walsoraj) I do tend to agree with these sentiments: a breather for infrastructure improvements would be very welcome...although current economic idealogies tend to dismiss infrastructure building when markets are down, so whether it will happen will depend on exchange owners having some prescience.

Although I don't think BTC lends itself to too much TA I have to say I was looking at the Gox monthly chart, 15min intervals and you can draw a very nice Andrew's pitchfork...
1022  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2013, 04:30:59 AM
Walsoraj...did you see my wager few pages back? Interested?

Sure, but I will write some beautiful poetry regardless of who wins  Kiss

I'm sure you will Smiley
1023  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2013, 04:12:16 AM
Walsoraj...did you see my wager few pages back? Interested?
1024  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2013, 03:03:52 AM
wibbly wobbly, timey wimey?

LOL Cheesy...well, I get it...and wasn't it fantastic.
1025  Other / Off-topic / Re: Behaviour on the Speculation board: women not welcome? on: November 25, 2013, 01:24:45 AM
OK, last post here for a while.

Here's something a bit more confrontational.

NSFW
http://tigerbeatdown.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/tumblr_l9tddgVlu31qbkli6.jpg

And an interesting discussion.

http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/10/05/lessons-from-art-feminism-gets-semen-all-over-your-face/

Edit: link fixed.

And for what it's worth, unlike tigerbeatdown I actually think the above is an insight piece - whether the artist is a man or woman is irrespective.
1026  Other / Off-topic / Re: Behaviour on the Speculation board: women not welcome? on: November 25, 2013, 01:21:37 AM

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In her book, Bunny Tales: Behind Closed Doors at the Playboy Mansion, Izabella St James, who was one of Hugh Hefner's former "official girlfriends", described sex with Hef. Hef, in his late 70s, would have sex twice a week, sometimes with four or more of his girlfriends at once, St James among them. He had novelty, variety, multiplicity and women willing to do what he pleased. At the end of the happy orgy, wrote St James, came "the grand finale: he masturbated while watching porn".

Here, the man who could actually live out the ultimate porn fantasy, with real porn stars, instead turned from their real flesh and touch, to the image on the screen. Now, I ask you, "what is wrong with this picture?".

absolutely nothing

arousal is in the mind, if 70 something Hugh's trigger was tripped by the idea of women having sex in front of an audience it is not our place to judge...and your doing so smacks dangerously of Abrahamic puritanism in a new guise.

Sex is natural, pleasurable, and good.  "Sex addiction" is laughable on the face of it.  Know what? I also have an oxygen addiction...cant get enough of the stuff, have to have it every day...food too.
Read the papers and the article...you don't have an oxygen addiction.

Oxygen does not work on the pleasure receptors of the brain creating doperegenic reactions...some foods do though  - chocolate for one.  Cheese actually contains caesomorphines, which are a mild opiates, whihc is why cheese is so nice for most people.

For those with long term exposure, porn creates the same pleasure/reward relationship. 

We are essentially creatures that work on a reward system.  Please everyone, take a chance to read the science before posting a counter argument.
1027  Other / Off-topic / Re: Behaviour on the Speculation board: women not welcome? on: November 25, 2013, 01:04:31 AM
By the way, I watch tons of porn and I'm well aware that's not how most women are in real life because I actually talk to them, be sure to get that moronic stereotype out of your head, bitching about female imagery just makes girls seem like they're projecting their own insecurity about their bodies to me and blaming it on the media.

So, on the one hand I'm stupid but on the other you chose to ignore the science I've posted links to.

Hhh,mm which is it?

There is a famous quote by Edward de Bono which to paraphrase says, a person's ego stops them exploring information that may contradict the ego's position.  I'd politely suggest perhaps your ego is getting the better of you.

Is not true intellectual intelligence the ability to accept and assimilate new information?
1028  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2013, 12:33:37 AM
Put your bids in the $100-200 range.
You're a trier Walsoraj, I'll give you that Smiley

Not certain it will happen within the next 24hrs, but by Friday for sure!

By Friday eh?
OK, I'll have you a little wager it's still above $500 by Friday midnight GMT.

The loser has to post a self-composed poem describing what a bad trader they are?

$201 - $499 and we are both safe.
1029  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2013, 12:02:53 AM
Put your bids in the $100-200 range.
You're a trier Walsoraj, I'll give you that Smiley
1030  Other / Off-topic / Re: Behaviour on the Speculation board: women not welcome? on: November 24, 2013, 11:57:34 PM
Hi All,
And many thanks to those who have taken the time to post thoughtful replies either pro or anti my position.  Unfortunately, I haven't got time to respond to each individually plus I have received at least one pm which suggests this isn't going to resolve itself nicely.

However, I just want to make a couple of points:

1. To all those who say my OP was OTT...well, maybe it was and maybe there are intellectual or argumentative flaws in there.  But hey, sometimes you are angry and I'm not going apolgise for that - oda.krell: sometimes you get angry when you have a lifetime of this shit and you see it replicated by people who claim to be creating a new fairer world.  

This is my first main point: if crypto is meant to be part of the NWO then this stuff needs to aired and if you are male and this sensitive then really you should go live somewhere where you are in the minority.  You'll soon understand, believe me.

2.  A lot of the advice I am getting is to 'play them at their own game'.  I won't do that because this is a fallacious strategy.  Women behaving like men does not allow women to be women and in the end men will always win: as I said earlier "women wanted liberation but settled for equality".

3. The porn question.  It's a thin end of a wedge and I guess the younger males here have grown up with so much porn and female imagery that it just feels normal but it's not.  

I am, by trade many things including a scientist. So, let's leave the moral and ethical debates and the burgeoning sex slave trade for a minute and look at some science. Although not my field I have a particular interest in neurology.  Dr Valerie Voon has studied the impacts of porn on the brain - I believe this paper has yet to published and is in peer-review.  However, the impact of pleasurable behaviour is not disputed, see: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896627309010459
while addictions to porn are a recognised phenomena.

A more accessible precis can be found here:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/26/brain-scans-porn-addicts-sexual-tastes

An addiction's ability to change behaviour is well documented and across large social groups is an especially powerful feature that should not be ignored.  Imagine you were forced to eat chocolate or smoke cigarettes where ever you turned in your daily routine - how long before you became addicted, how long before your behaviour changed to accommodate this need?

For those with short attention spans (tl:dr) I'll leave you with this excerpt:

Quote
In her book, Bunny Tales: Behind Closed Doors at the Playboy Mansion, Izabella St James, who was one of Hugh Hefner's former "official girlfriends", described sex with Hef. Hef, in his late 70s, would have sex twice a week, sometimes with four or more of his girlfriends at once, St James among them. He had novelty, variety, multiplicity and women willing to do what he pleased. At the end of the happy orgy, wrote St James, came "the grand finale: he masturbated while watching porn".

Here, the man who could actually live out the ultimate porn fantasy, with real porn stars, instead turned from their real flesh and touch, to the image on the screen. Now, I ask you, "what is wrong with this picture?".
1031  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2013, 04:22:32 AM
Every aborted crash is extra confidence in the $800 level.

I agree, but this is also confusing for me. It feels like we are "burning in" the $800 price... and yet it is so high above the exponential growth trend line.

*shrugs* I am just a buy & hold kind of guy, but my friends keep asking me if they should buy bitcoins, and I'm not sure what to tell them at these prices (... I always say yes, but I hesitate!)

The exponential trend line is a myth. Media awareness may grow at an exponential rate at first, but there is a "hype" effect that will cause it to eventually depart the exponential trajectory.

I believe we are seeing that now: all time Google Trends high, it is showing up regularly on network news, etc. It's not reasonable to assume that we can go from occasional web journalism to news networks without departing the trend.

Also, the amount invested by every individual joining the ecosystem will grow over time, since there's an intangible measure of "trustworthiness" Bitcoin gains by surviving each successive bubble.
Great post.
I'd say the main obstacle is the network itself and its infrastructure...can it take the strain...Gox and Stamps issues over the last few weeks are not encouraging.
1032  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2013, 04:03:11 AM
Back over 800 on stamp  Roll Eyes
1033  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2013, 03:39:05 AM
I smell fear in the air.... and popcorn.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Let me be known: the profit, walsoraj, spoke of doom not long before it occurred.

I don't believe in prophets who only speak of profits, especially ones who can't spell the difference.

More fire and brimstone on the charts to come. The wrath of Walsoraj is upon us.  Angry Angry Angry
Walsoraj, you were predicting a crash to single digits when we were at 150USD....its hardly prophetic to keep predicting a fall when there are only three directions a market can go in.

na, $1000 in two weeks
Absolutely...or a month or three..who cares sit tight to your coins and don't sell at a loss
1034  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2013, 03:36:42 AM
I smell fear in the air.... and popcorn.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Let me be known: the profit, walsoraj, spoke of doom not long before it occurred.

I don't believe in prophets who only speak of profits, especially ones who can't spell the difference.

More fire and brimstone on the charts to come. The wrath of Walsoraj is upon us.  Angry Angry Angry
Walsoraj, you were predicting a crash to single digits when we were at 150USD....its hardly prophetic to keep predicting a fall when there are only three directions a market can go in.
1035  Economy / Securities / Re: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings on: November 24, 2013, 12:32:35 AM
Operations start next year right? I would be more worried about having my BTC tied up in NEOBEE until then.
Why worry?
The share price is holding up well against a burgeoning BTC and OK you could do some trades and hope the BTC price tanks and buy back into NEOBEE later but really?  This is an operation with fantastic potential, Danny is proving himself to have both the talk AND the walk (aka actually doing some work as opposed to most of the BTC start up CEOs).
A BTC bank is going to be a game changer
1036  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2013, 12:18:38 AM
Morning All,
from a wet and miserable tropical Australia.

Looks like we had a pretty uneventful session...pretty thin trading across all the xchgs at present...did Gox get attacked again and did Mark reset the market for us Cry

Nan
1037  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2013, 11:14:25 AM
why singapore? that's one useless shopping center hell

Oh, the hours/days I've spent traipsing up and down, round and round Singapore airport - hell, I tell you HELL!
NO WAY! not changi airport that's actually heaven.  Also voted the best in the world at some point (it's on and off.) can't beleive you didn't like that place, that was the only real place in singapore that i went to (plane spotter)

Go away with your porn and your shiny, soulless airport.
Have an ignore.
1038  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2013, 10:02:01 AM
why singapore? that's one useless shopping center hell

Oh, the hours/days I've spent traipsing up and down, round and round Singapore airport - hell, I tell you HELL!
1039  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2013, 09:44:36 AM
i dont believe in 10 year holding, i think the risk is great that bitcoin will be replaced by a more convenient cryptocurrency.
nowadays bitcoin is the big thing, cryptocurrency=bitcoin. maybe tomorrow cryptocurrency = whothefuckknowswhichcoin

today we can tell bitcoin rises
but we can also tell there are many alternatives already waiting
http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency
Who can say what will happen in 10 years time - we may be bashing each other over the heads scrabbling for food.

But if we hold it together then BTC will be the gold standard for crypto although I agree that a number of the current alt coins and probably new innovative ones will probably be used for smaller purchases/every day.  
1040  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2013, 08:49:46 AM
OMG... my sweetest apologies my lady!
GOOD MORNING LADIES!

No worries...and good morning to you.  Another fine day in the BTC trenches  Kiss
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