Liverpool v Man U is just about to kick off which should be interesting. I've gone for 2-2 and the scores seem to be pretty evenly distributed for all outcomes: 19 Liverpool wins 14 draws 17 Man U wins 11 unpicked. Watching Arsenal lord over Bournemouth and I can't believe they are not already in the lead. To make it worse, Bournemouth players are playing handball in their box and still no penalty for Arsenal. Granted there were a couple of them that were accidental but at least this last one on the goal line should have been a penalty.
Arsenal deserve three points here and I really hope they will get it. Still about 10 minutes to go.
Had two winners yesterday from some of the free bets from Sportsbet. Only won them with that last minute winner in the Arsenal game:   Not big wins as I picked the favourites but my freebets were about to expire haha. |
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Game 1: 26, 15'
Game 2: 26, 18'
Game 3: 26, 21'
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14. Ciryl Gane
13. Valentina Shevchenko
12. Geoff Neal
11. Mateusz Gamrot
10. Bo Nickal
9. Cody Garbrandt
8. Derek Brunson
7. Viviane Araujo
6. Julian Marquez
5. Ian Machado Garry
4. Mana Martinez
3. Jessica Penne
2. Farid Basharat
1. Loik Radzhabov
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I can confirm that this post was reported: Below are the original contents of the personal message which was reported: hi i'm Ericmavy from telegram, i want to sell this account |
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Most of the reports against you have been marked as bad but if you're spamming the same thing multiple times a day then they'll probably be removed for that.
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Thought this response was a joke at first: What is kidney stone :
Kidney stones are hard deposits of minerals and acid salts that stick together in concentrated urine.
I only had kidney sand and that was terrible, can't imagine how the stone feels like
Turns out he's a SEO spambot but his post did make me laugh (unless kidney sand is a real thing  . Maybe kidney sand turns into kidney stones?). |
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Game 1: 26, 22'
Game 2: 26, 33'
Game 3: 26, 15'
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13. Nikita Krylov
12. Andre Muniz
11. Don’Tale Mayes
10. Tatiana Suarez
9. Mike Malott
8. Erick Gonzalez
7. Jasmine Jasudavicius
6. Jordan Leavitt
5. Charles Johnson
4. Joe Solecki
3. Nurullo Aliev
2. Hailey Cowan
1. Garrett Armfield
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I think somebody suggested it before. I don't believe it's necessary and just a thread would be fine.
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An admin can fully delete it but if you're worried about privacy etc it's best not to create another account with a similar username and then announce it as it just ties the two together anyway.
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A) No
B) Over
C) Yes
Tiebreaker: 335 points
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Game 1: 40, 36'
Game 2: 40, 58'
Game 3: 40, 13'
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11. Erin Blanchfield
10. Zac Pauga
9. Jamal Pogues
8. William Knight
7. Jim Miller
6. Mayra Bueno Silva
5. Jamall Emmers
4. Philipe Lins
3. Nazim Sadykhov
2. A.J. Fletcher
1. Clayton Carpenter
NOT go the Full Distance 5
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It's really strange we see OP bumping this thread and he still thinks that his appeal will be taken care of  I don't think his account will be unban. If it was to be unban, it would have been done months before. Well I have my reasons to be so optimistic... 1. The reason of ban is still not confirmed, this is just my guess why I was banned 2. I presented my case and wrote all the evidences 3. There was a honest mistake where I used my brother's ETH address to apply in my first ever campaign (after being on the platform for months) If it was banned for these reasons it likely would have been posted somewhere. I can't find any reported PMs containing your username or any mention in the staff forum so I'm not sure what the ban is for. I don't know what gmjutt6 was banned for either. Theymos would be able to tell you who banned it so that could narrow it down but they might not remember specifics. |
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Not all donations are begging. If someone wants to send you or me money as a donation then they can go to our profiles and do so. You can donate to anyone you want. What you can't do is create a thread to try solicit donations. If a thread contains a sob story and address urging others to donate then I'd say yes, that clarifies as a begging thread. I never before saw moderators contacted someone to remove Bitcoin address from their topic, and this should not be done selectively like you are doing. Why would you see it? It was done in private, but they usually don't get contacted at all. They either go straight in the trash without notification or the person gets a ban but I thought I'd do the nice thing and nicely ask him to remove it rather than trash the entire thing. It's really not done selectively. I think everyone should be treated the same and people shouldn't be begging for money here. I would urge people to report any begging threads and we'll probably stop a lot of scams from happening in the first place. One more thread that comes to my mind was controversial Bitcointalk Charity topic, with three forum members being involved in abusing collected donations. That topic was allowed to exists for months, and it's interesting that yahoo was one of the people who first talked about that issue, so I don't see him as a bitcoin beggar: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376475.0I don't think that thread should have been there but two wrongs don't make a right. That situation was a perfect example of the issues that arise from these things. People trusted so called trusted users/familiar faces and they straight up abused their position likely pilfering funds for themselves. If that thread would have been reported then it likely would have been removed straight away. I'm sure the people meriting it and donating to it were thinking they were contributing to a noble cause but that probably didn't happen, or not on the scale expected. It's sad and disgusting that people abuse charity but don't ever forget how low people will stoop to line their own pockets. Abusing charity is an extra level of low in my opinion because you're taking advantage of people's good nature to enrich yourself and genuine people who need the money and probably didn't even ask for it in the first place are losing out. I will repeat again, there was no bitcoin addresses when thread was created, he added it later after other members asked for that.
I don't know what I would do in similar situation, but fact is that most members supported yahoo and gave him bunch of merits.
Last time I checked he didn't receive that much Bitcoin at all, fake Bruno scammer and Bitcointalk Charity trio received much much more. It doesn't really matter when it was put there but I can't confirm that to be true or not. Are you saying he only added the "I'm not asking for donations or anything, but I do have a bitcoin address in my profile if anyone wants to help out they can." at a later date? I think yahoo probably knew what he was doing by creating that thread but it would be a terrible loophole if we allow threads to be edited after they're created because someone suggested people could donate and that makes it ok. You could just have a friend or even an alt account make the suggestion. PS Your last quote was wrong, I didn't say that, it was post from Halab: If you want to talk about your health problems... why not. If people are touched by your story, they will contact you by PM to ask you for an address to make a donation. That's all you can hope. Because if we open this Pandora's box, there will be abuse.
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It was essentially a begging thread which obviously isn't allowed and I think the no begging rule is one of the oldest here.
So now we are going to call any topic that has donation address a begging?! Not all donations are begging. If someone wants to send you or me money as a donation then they can go to our profiles and do so. You can donate to anyone you want. What you can't do is create a thread to try solicit donations. If a thread contains a sob story and address urging others to donate then I'd say yes, that clarifies as a begging thread. I didn't see Yahoo beg at all in this thread, I even think he added donation addresses later when people started asking about that, he just said that everyone can find address in his profile ( archive can confirm this). This was certainly not the only thread that collected donations, I can clearly remember one topic from Bruno AKA Phinnaeus Gage and his medical condition, we all know outcome of that. I can also find several donations campaigns for disasters and health issues, you can't call all donations begging, even Bitcointalk forum had donation address for years. You can't really say I'm not asking for donations then literally ask for donations both in the thread and directing people to your profile. Whilst some people will or would have genuine reasons for asking for money and it may seem harsh not allowing them in certain instances I think a blanket ban on them is wise unless we're going to scrap the rule completely or open up some sort of donation board which I think would just be a messy nightmare. It was essentially a begging thread which obviously isn't allowed and I think the no begging rule is one of the oldest here. I'm suspired nobody reported it earlier to be honest. If it was made by any other account it would have been reported half a dozen times and trashed within an hour of being posted.
do mods have to wait for a report before doing anything? There were two other staff members who replied in that thread, why didn't they stop it No, they don't have to wait but it's the first time I saw it and most won't see it unless it's reported. Only Globals and dedicated sub mods could handle posts/threads in there as well. Maybe the other mods didn't think it violated the rules or maybe some mods think certain people should get a pass but I can't speak for everyone. I'm not going to speak for all mods, just myself. And my voice has no more value than others.
Giving documents or invoices about a heavy operation doesn't prove anything. Everything can be easily faked.
As a mod or just a member, I don't want to have personal and sensitive information about other members.
And above all, I (we ?) am not a doctor and how can I judge if this or that disease is eligible for donations ?
Heart transplantation. OK ?
Cancer. OK ?
Amputation. OK ?
Sex change. OK ?
Breast implant ?
My dog needs surgery. Is it OK ?
Where is the limit? What if you are rich in a poor country or poor in a rich country ? What do we do? Do we have to ask for a tax declaration as well ?
Exactly. People could easily fake this stuff or just take advantage of being in hospital for a minor surgery as well. You could go in for a routine op, take some pictures of you hooked up to an IV or oxygen and make out like you're dying of cancer or something and have weeks to live. It's actually not that uncommon and people are always getting called out for faking diseases and illnesses. There was a YouTuber recently who faked cancer and received a lot of money in donations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGcOZ4XPHKEIf you want to talk about your health problems... why not. If people are touched by your story, they will contact you by PM to ask you for an address to make a donation. That's all you can hope. Because if we open this Pandora's box, there will be abuse. You could certainly have a thread to talk about your personal afflictions if you wanted to but you can't do that and then stick a donation address in it. I would still find it a bit sketchy either way and most people doing so would probably be doing it knowing it'll garner them at least some sympathy likely along with some donations as well. I might have a bit of sympathy if someone was genuinely struggling with their medical bills or whatnot but not to just fund someone's alleged take-out orders whilst they were apparently in hospital. |
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It was essentially a begging thread which obviously isn't allowed and I think the no begging rule is one of the oldest here. I'm suspired nobody reported it earlier to be honest. If it was made by any other account it would have been reported half a dozen times and trashed within an hour of being posted. It's really not about providing sufficient proof of illness or whatnot. I don't know if you're trying to make a point of something with this thread but it's a good example of what would be wrong with allowing begging threads because everyone would then try them for all afflictions major and minor; real or fantasy. It would then become the oppression Olympics with people feigning all sorts of things just to try solicit sympathy donations. I think yahoo deserves the necessary help he/she needs to survive the health problems as long as its true. He is a longtime member who has supported this forum in his own way.
The money involved isn't a small one. Extraordinary claim requires extraordinary proof and once enough proofs are provided the forum must rally around one of its own to help him/her survive. Life is worth more than the amount he/she is asking for. He could also be helped to get the desired treated/cured at the fraction of the cost or free of charge. Nothing is impossible
It will be really sad to see another important member vanish just like that.
From his own words he doesn't seem to need the money and he has health insurance. From what he said recently it seems the donations were essentially just to cover his doordash expenses: What you are is 100% impulsive and pathetic. If you are going to try and throw shade at a user, you should at a minimum, read the whole thread. Just a suggestion. If you had, you would see that I have not had a heart transplant at this point. I did have an almost 1 month stay in the hospital. Jan 4th-Jan 29th 2023. The initial post also said that money donated would be used to help with expenses such as food, gas, hotel rooms, or anything else. All of which is what the donations helped with. I was not on a special diet in the hospital as I never held water or showed any signs of swelling in any of my extremities. With that being said, I used doordash for 2 meals a day most times. Roughly 30-35$ per meal each day. That's 60-70$ a day for food for 25 days. Do the math and that comes to 1500-1750$ just for food alone. Well above any amount that was donated. Noone begged the community for anything and in fact I told many users not to send anything. Not that I owe you any answers but I didn't want you to think I didn't see your post.
You might not like the term but that's a perfect definition of what the thread essentially was. |
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