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1081  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 09:44:28 PM
Hey this sounds like the trolls.... Doesn't this sound familiar in this thread?

 And its about bitcoin.

"It is a Ponzi Scheme/Scam/etc. - and why I am playing... Let me see if I get this straight..... A "currency" was created out of thin air and now people are spending hundreds of dollars each for one reason: the belief that some other fool will pay more for it later."

"Sounds like a perfect way to gamble a couple hundred dollars and see if this Ponzi Scheme takes off turning my couple hundred into a couple thousand (or more)."

"Could I lose it? Of course. But I am having a lot more fun than gambling a couple hundred on a casino boat. Still likely to lose my money but a whole lot better chance of walking away with more money. Play the game. Have fun. Plan on losing your money. But if I catch it just right, and get out JUST IN TIME, then I will benefit while the last ones in lose their money.

It's a Ponzi Scheme and just remember that - and have fun.............."

"You lose more than you can get All this bitcoin is a big scam, you support the network with hardware, time and electricity to process the transactions but eventually you give way more than you get! The only people who benefit from this currency are the initiators and the people causing the inflation, its a smart scam, a digital one."

"scam -- not backed by anything but faith A real national currency, if not backed by gold silver, is backed by the economy and military might and legal system of the issuer. This is backed by nothing, but "faith"."

"And also looking at the various exchanges there is a large gap, for example on one exchange now the bid/asked ( in $) is 115.5by 115.8, and on another it is 113.3.. By 113.3..--a potential instant profit on arbitrage--what is that all about??"

"the latest nonsense, defended by the parochially "knowledgeable" There is no supporting, stable (= governmental) infrastructure. Security depends upon software deployed on readily hacked Microsoft Windows platforms. Security depends upon continual re-verification of transaction logs that can be forged and destroyed. "Money" has value because an entity with control over the economic behavior of millions or billions of people--and with governance over trillions or quadrillions of dollars--is willing to back it. Bitcoins are beyond foolishness. Why not peanutbuttercoins?"

"This is an INCREDIBLE scam. The difficulty with Bitcoin is the production of Bitcoins, which are unregulated and not transparent to the world. There is nothing to prevent a sudden surge in Bitcoins being dumped by a creator, a major cash-in, and anyone who pays in legal fiat will be left with nothing. Oh, Bitcoins."

"Yes. Bitcoin could be a scam. I do not know a whole lot about Bitcoin, but there is always a chance something new is a scam. If people are looking to use it then they should do as much research before hand to get all their facts straight. Right now, there are many scams out in the world and it is important to be on our toes."

"Yes Bitcoin is a scam. Yes, I think that Bitcoin is a scam and makes people believe that they are receiving free money. Bitcoin is just as open to being scammed as normal, tangible money and I think that just because it is a different way of offering currency people think that they are getting a deal when they are not."

"Doesn't add up... Unregulated and without any fundamental value! Derr! Consider this an entirely invented medium of exchange that has not basis in fundamental value or agreed and recognised unit of exchange. It is an unregulated finite supply of nothing, artificially inflated to exploit unsuspecting persons. The only persons who win are he early inflators who get out leaving a void of nothing while the unsuspecting persons are left with literally nothing."

"Whatever Happened to Ethics? BitCoins take advantage of this emerging digital market by selling this "opportunity" to be part of the next BIG THING by preying on the down economy and regular people who will willingly trust, for an amount they normally could afford to lose, that exchange will fulfill its role. Maybe it does for a little bit but meanwhile A LOT of newly entrants are losing money in unviable fluctuations while people in the know, or the technogeek-geniuses, are making a killing by "pretending" to get their digital blocks compromised = only 46% of the pending transactions get refunded, if you're lucky enough to get a refund. Try searching up about these communities' no email back response on your cancelled transaction with your money floating in the air."

"Now, add drug lord money and corrupt gov't officials gambling their bribe money online for complete anonymity---do you see the bigger picture now? I'm sure there are bots tracking all our posts here in the digital cloud right now with the BIG 500 Companies doing analytics on the viability of this digital extension."

"Would you contribute to this QUESTIONABLE underground "over the cloud" trade? I call this the new online gambling. I just hope your mode of payment wasn't digital or you'd have Big Brother all over you not long from now cryptocollecting your info for which 10 years for now could be used to: (fill in blanks here): ie. Take money from your online account incrementally over 40 years without you knowing or just plainly stealing your identity. Remember these underground economy grows exponentially."

"If this free market model constantly attracts new people with ever increasing acceptance of low integrity transactions and the medium of exchange eventually runs out of memory to create new mediocre trading platforms (Bitcoins can only have about $21M digital currency and we now have about $11M floating), what happens next?"



Hmmm..  shoulda listened to all the folks that called bitcoin a scam.


   Relax, smoke a joint,  buy more Silk.

  The Camel Marches On.
1082  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 09:28:31 PM
whenever megaman spams this thread, simply place this here afterwards to remind people why he is doing it

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=zwyzwh&s=8#.U6XzPrEuI6U

Done and Done.
1083  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 09:27:39 PM

Sorry couldn't hear anything.  Silk coin is too loud.
1084  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 09:24:42 PM


Abstract
From the introduction of Bitcoin by its creator Satoshi Nakamoto, the world has been
fascinated by this new form of currency. The greatest invention of Satoshi Nakamoto
was not Bitcoin, but the blockchain, and its far-reaching possibilities are only just
being uncovered.
The blockchain is the underlying structure beneath the digital currency that allows
everyone to reach a consensus without having to trust any single entity,
This paper will address a new use of the blockchain while keeping the first use of
Bitcoin as a currency and provides an incentive via the proof of stake system to
support the network.
The system proposed is based on the Bitcoin and peer-to-peer protocols. The
Blockchain will be used to handle user registration while the BitTorent network will
handle the distribution of encrypted data via a distributed hash table to insure fast
delivery. Once we are able to identify people via public keys and handle the
registration process with the blockchain while keeping them anonymous,
centralization is no longer needed.
 
 
I. Introduction
The invention of Bitcoin had such an impact on society because centralization is
becoming a major concern. If we look at the this problem of centralization on a global
scale, we see more and more dictatorships and even democratic countries shut
down social media and websites, censor information, block access to data or services,
hinder free trading, spy on citizens, seize bank accounts and in general hamper the
freedom of the general public.
Most of peoples private information and everyday actions are handled and observed
by the hands of a small number of people due to centralization. It is for this reason
that censorship and blockage is so easy, due to the fact that most of these
organizations have comply with governments leaders regarding services provided in
their country. This flaw also makes it inherently more vulnerable to attackers.
E.g : “Censorship of Twitter occurs in many countries and is approved of and
supported by Twitter.” Wikipedia There are many examples that can be cited here, we can talk about the Arab Spring,
web censoring going on in multiple countries, reports of internet wide scaled
wiretapping, Wikileaks, Mt.Gox, think of every kind of injustice freedom suffered
during the last decade as a result of centralization. At a smaller scale everyone has
had to face these kind of problems once in their lives. We are in need of a new world,
a decentralized world.
The main issue we always had was solved by Satoshi Nakamoto with the blockchain.
But rather than only for a use in a currency, the blockchain can be leveraged to store
any form of data and approve its validity by the consensus (mining) system.
Most systems need centralization because we must be able to authenticate users and
prove their identity, so we need a centralized registration, but what if the Blockchain
was leveraged to store registrations? No accounts could be taken down or censored
and by linking usernames to public keys encryption becomes a lot more user-friendly.
In this paper we propose a new form of currency revolving around an eco-system all
based on the Blockchain. Providing anonymity to whoever needs to express
themselves in any possible way, being resilient to any attacks like those that may
occur with Bitcoin whilst being resilient to censorship, with a decentralized user
registration, providing secure communication and identification via encrypted
communication.
With blockchain authentication and near instant encrypted data delivery via the P2P
network we can think of an unlimited number of uses for this system, we will focus
on the social network and exchange in this paper.
 
 
II. Registration Process
In Bitcoin, the Blockchain is used as a means to avoid double spending problems
without the need of a central authority. The same can be applied to registrations. The
data will be included in blocks and will need to get a certain number of confirmations
before being accepted by the network, checking for user uniqueness. This system
provides us a mean to avoid centralization which was previously needed to handle
user authentication. At the same time it will link the public key to your user name
improving usability and user-friendliness.
Each block will now include user registration in the following manner: Blocki
 = [i,Hash.Blocki
,nBitsi
, Noncei
, [Array of UserReg]]
User registration array will be constructed as :
UserRegj
 = [Usernamej
 ,PubKeyj
 ,Noncej ,Repj]
Upon a new user registration, UserReg will be broadcast to the network and validated
after a number of confirms in the same way that transactions are confirmed in the
Bitcoin protocol enforcing uniqueness of the user except if the Repj
 changed or in the
case of key replacement. The blockchain will provide a public dictionary linking the
Public key to the username to reputation. This is how other clients will be able to
identify users, getting rid at the same time of the long public key string.
What we did here is assign a username to a public key and a reputation score, written
in a public dictionary coded into the blockchain resilient to any form of attack. In
other words a secure decentralized registration system, resolving the registration
process is the key to everything.
 
 
III. Resource storage
To achieve instant delivery of content we will be using the P2P network. A distributed
hash table like Chord or Kademlia will permit to easily retrieve specific data from
specific peers in no time. To get more information on this subject and how this works
read the Kademlia Wikipedia page.
The main problem with those types of networks is that user identification is very easy
since the distributed table needs to identify the user when connected to the network.
This would compromise privacy of users, so to protect their IP and identity we will be
hashing their IP via ID[nodej]=Hash([ IPj
,port])
Data in the distributed hash table will be sent from the source to the receiver
including the source ID, receiver ID, encrypted signed data and ID of the signer. The
sender may be different from the signer, if the data is just re-transmitted. So all kind
of data will be shared over the network following: Packet = [IDdest, IDsrc, SIGj(data), IDj]
The data is a payload defined by [target,value,time,seq] where target = [owner,
resource, restype,cat] and data is signed content from user j.
Each node must check before storing data the validity of the payload checking : IDdest = hash(target) to ensure the destination node is properly computed and that
IDdest is a neighbor of the node receiving the storage request.
If the restype is “single” IDj must be equal to the hash of the owner. Seq must be
greater than last seq if restype is “single”.
Time is a valid timestamp.
Restype can be single or multi, multi is used for data collecting from multiple users
for instance answers to a message or contact through a trade. Single on the other
hand is to handle data that can only be updated by the owner like a profile picture or
a trade offer.
If the restype is multi, data may expire according to the time field. Single on the other
hand will take over multi if needed.
Cat is the category it fits in exchange and social feature data have different behaviors.
So any data can be shared via the distribute hash network with near instant delivery,
stocking it on multiples nodes without any security or forgery issues thanks to the
registration system. The application we just presented is known and used on other
P2P networks and is fully operational.
 
 
IV. The P2P Swarm Network
 
Instead of doing constant polling over the distribute hash table, the distribution of
new posts will be handled by the torrent swarm of posts. The system is the same as
the BitTorrent P2P protocol, except in the BitTorrent protocol files are divided into
pieces and the torrent file is used to check the integrity of the hashes. Here the
checking is useless since all messages are user signed and their integrity can be easily
checked.
 
The BitTorrent network also utilizes distributed hash tables to decentralize trackers as
we do. The tracker is a special DHT resource addressed by IDtracker_j= Hash([Uj
,
“tracker”, “multi”+) to increase the difficulty of a tracker poisoning attack involving
fake peers and to be able to broadcast posts from 0 followers, the IDj node neighbor to the IDtracker_j is required to join the swarm. Additional peers are then obtained by
exchanging with other members. So the first step to follow a user j is to send a
distributed hash table GET to acquire an initial list of peers from IDtracker_j .
Any member of the swarm may announce new posts, this is how data is handled so
fast without constantly polling from the table. To improve privacy even more, nothing
in this scheme requires the poster to announce his post, the swarm takes care of it.
Also, following the BitTorent scheme, swarm members are identified by their address
IP but since the public dictionary only provides public key to username data, the
identities of the IP remain anonymous.
Posts per account are limited per day to avoid spam attacks, and too much data being
handled by nodes. The current set value is 400 post per day calculated with the time
of the last block, the time of the registration block of the user and the time per block.
 
V. Application, Social and Exchange
 
All will be built on the same model: data based. The exchange will visually look
similar to the LocalBitcoins.com exchange, working a bit like a marketplace. Here the
reputation will be visible when you post trades/answer, but since we cannot only rely
on a reputation system for trades we will also include pool voting. A voting pool
distributes the role of an arbiter in a multi-party and reduce the risk of fraudulent
behavior, for more details head over OpenBazaar pool voting .
Ads and Posts
Market ads will be handled just like posts, each user will have a trading profile and
any message will be handled by UserPostjk = SIGj([Usernamej
, k, type, postk
, replyk
,
orderk)+ k is an increasing constant and j the user, type defines if it’s a new post, a
reply, a retransmission, a direct message or a market order. The post may contain a
message to be posted, and is limited to 400 characters. Reply is optional and is a
pointer to a reference post or offer. Order is only needed if cat is equal to the
exchange and holds an array defining the asked price, mean of payment and order
type.
When a new order or post is created two PUT request are sent : IDUserPost_jk= Hash([Usernamej
, “post” + k, “order”+k, “single”+ and IDswarm_j =
Hash([Usernamej
, “swarm”, “single”+) where IDUserPost_jk is a post storage address and
provides post retrieval ability. IDswarm_j is a gateway address to reach a torrent swarm.
The swarm contains all the users posts and helps sharing them over the distributed
table network. Neighbors of IDswarm_j are required to join but swarm members can
only recognize themselves by IP since username must remain anonymous, although
the user j may quit his own swarm for privacy purpose (hide his IP on the swarm
delivering his post).
The swarm insures swift notifications by distributing new posts without needing to do
constant polling on the network.
If a market ad was created, the order must be posted and detected by the whole
network and categorized someone. So a copy of the message and the order are sent
to a multi-value list storage IDmean_t = Hash([meant
,“mean”,”multi”)+
A new swarm is created similar to the IDswarm_j , posts including the same mean of
payment will be routed to neighbors members of the swarm and broadcasted to the
swarm’s members. Providing a distributed tracker and broadcaster for members
interested in this mean of payment.
Searching for market ads by prices can also be achieved by using the same
mechanism IDpricerange_t = Hash([priceranget ,”pricerange”,”multi”)+ , except here prices
are grouped by range.
Groups will be created in the social feature revolving around the same rules, which
means that anyone can join and groups cannot be private.
Trade Handling
There will be two separate “Profile” types, the Social profile and the Trading profile.
Both are separated. In the trading profiles posts will format themselves according to
“Order” field. Once an agreement is settled escrow may be enabled and secured by a
pool of arbiters randomly selected into both parties trade followers (trade followers
are separated from social followers and escrow is optional). Once the transaction is
done the feedback will remain for a while on the traders profile stored as multi and a
trust rating will be given to the seller and included in following blocks as seen in the
first part forever. Traders will be able to run long term businesses with users while
still making use of centralized exchanges for those who need.
 Private messages
Private messages are needed to be able to interact with other users, and in privacy
encrypting messages easily with public keys. To be able to send private messages it is
mandatory that the two parties follow each other. A user Uj
 sends a message to Ul
 ,
order field is optional:
Postjk=SIGj(*“”,k,”message”,*PUBKl(Mk),Hash(Mk)]])
The private post feature is almost the same as the post except for the
[PUBKl(Mk),Hash(Mk)].
Private messages will appear on the public profile but the message will be encrypted
and sender remains anonymous, only the recipient of the message/offer will be able
to see the content of the message.
Posts in general can also be retrieved via an explicit message request without the
need to join the swarm by retrieving values from IDpost_jk . This will lighten the use of
the network and facilitate data flow for message thread navigation.
 
VI. Conclusion
 
The proposed model of Crypto-currency will provide an Eco-System with security,
scalability, privacy features and censorship free features. The key of this system is the
registration handled by the blockchain, such P2P networks may already exist but all
via centralized registration and no incentives for users to support the network.
The whole system is based on Bitcoin and P2P, those two networks have proved in
the past to be resistant to attacks. In order to be able to trade on a data-based
system, a reputation algorithm will be enforced stored on the blockchain and pool
voting will be used to solve disputes.
The communication between users is secured and easily encrypted while data is
served almost instantly via the distribute hash table. With such a system, not a lot of
data needs to be included in the blockchain since it is handled by the P2P network.
This opens the door to many different uses, we can decentralize any existing system
(Marketplace, Wikipedia…), but too much data would hurt scalability/memory usage
of the network and go against the main decentralization idea, so the solution to this
would be better to spread services over different currencies.
1085  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 09:22:38 PM

Yeh I quote myself.  I love this pic.  Getting it blown up and framed on my wall. 

+3 Camels +1 moon
1086  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 09:21:21 PM
"Involvement – Silkcoin has an active, involved and supportive community. Their Bitcointalk announcement post has nearly 300 pages of posts in a little over a month. They have a fair following on social media with a steady buzz of activity. The development team is quite active in the community, providing frequent updates and responding to concerns/questions appropriately. There has also been a considerable amount of blog and crypto-news coverage of Silkcoin’s unique features.

Market Liquidity - Silkcoin currently ranks among the top 40 crypto-currencies by market capitalization and is among the top 15 ranked by trading volume. SC trading is done on Mintpal, Poloniex and Bittrex and was just recently added to Cryptsy. We will likely continue to see added merchant and exchange support as well as an increase in trading volume as Silkcoin continues on a positive trajectory and gains notoriety.

Innovations - The Silkcoin development team really hit a home run with their wallet platform. Almost every article written about Silkcoin raves about the wallet. The fact is that the vast majority of alt-coins have neglected to improve upon the basic .qt wallet and people are completely blown away when they are able to interact with crypto-currency in a user friendly and appealing way. The best part is that the Silkcoin team has been releasing a steady stream of wallet updates and has taken a ‘continuous improvement’ approach which is clearly well received. The notion that a crypto-wallet could be a sort of blockchain-based and secure browser-like platform is certainly the way of the future.

Coins Source’s Outlook - Silkcoin is currently in the midst of an increase in popularity both in the markets and in the overall field of crypto-currency. The development team is ambitious and they are obviously quite innovative. With the exception of Nxt, Silkcoin has one of the best wallet clients. Some other alt-coins such as Cinni have been working towards creating better wallets but so far haven’t built anything quite as good as the SC client. The advancement of the crypto-currency user interface is very important work in terms of mass adoption and the Silkcoin team is certainly one of the leaders in this effort. Silkcoin could well be near the beginning of its rise up the ranks in the crypto-markets."
1087  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 09:19:45 PM
“Welcome to the Future.”
Launched - May 7, 2014

Website - Silk-coin.com

Announcement Page – Bitcointalk.org

Twitter – @Silk_coin

Facebook - Silkcoin

Top 3 Exchanges -

1) Mintpal

2) Poloniex

3) Bittrex

Silkcoin (SC)

$0.017

0.00003 BTC

Change: -20.68%

24h Trading volume: 5,078,420 SC

24h Trading volume: 164 BTC

Silkcoin Video

Mining Stats & Calculator
Coming Soon.

Review
"Seemingly out of nowhere, Silkcoin (SC) broke the crypto-currency mold with its focus on an advanced wallet platform and a unique distribution model. Silkcoin came onto the scene with a brief 5 day proof of work scrypt phase in which about 30 million SC were mined. People were genuinely surprised that the Silkcoin wallet, which features a walking camel among lots of other things, was completely unique and innovative when most other alt-coins were using the basic Bitcoin.qt based client. With relatively little marketing effort, Silkcoin has risen to be among the top 40 crypto-currencies ranked by market capitalization and has maintained an above average trading volume.

Perhaps the most impressive aspect of Silkcoin is its advanced and unique wallet platform. The Silkcoin wallet is absolutely stacked with features. It has an integrated block explorer, updated market data, built in IRC chat capabilities, current SC statistics, a QR code generator and a unique ‘action’ panel that allows users to easily unlock their wallet for staking among other things. Of course, it has the ability to send and receive lightning fast transactions through a visually impressive and easy to navigate user interface (UI). Take a look at the Silkcoin wallet slideshow below to see for yourself."

Silkcoin Wallet

"According to the Silkcoin Bitcointalk announcement post, they have plans to implement a lot of additional features in the coming months as a part of what they are calling the ‘eco-system’. The Silkcoin eco-system will operate something like a decentralized, blockchain-based social network and a profile would be associated with a wallet address. While this eco-system is still being built, the development team plans to initially implement a system that will enable users to share files and messages through their wallets. Here’s a link to initial release version of Silkcoin’s ‘Eco-System” white paper: Eco-System White Paper

Eventually, Silkcoin will be a 100% proof of stake crypto-currency, however, it has two initial proof of stake distribution periods. The first distribution phase, which is now over, began at the launch and produced about 30 million SC. The second phase is separated by a month of pure proof of stake and is set to produce approximately 15 million more coins. This second proof of work period will give people another opportunity to accumulate some coins and serves to broaden Silkcoin’s distribution.

Silkcoin has really been a pleasant surprise to many in the crypto-community. It seems as though a lot of users are attracted to Silkcoin’s unique, innovative and nicely designed wallet client. The Silkcoin Bitcointalk announcement post has nearly 300 pages of posts since it was launched and they have developed a respectable following on social media. The exchange support has likewise been quite positive. Silkcoin’s climb up the crypto-ranks highlights the importance of an innovative and well designed user interface. Functionality and ease of use may well be the most important factors that will lead to an eventual mainstream, mass adoption of crypto-currency. Clearly, the Silkcoin developers and supporters have their eyes on this prize."

1088  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 09:16:33 PM
1089  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 08:50:05 PM

I have not bought anymore.  At this point I have slightly more than 1% of all coins.  Like I said this could be bigger than Bitcoin.  At that rate 500k would be enough for me. Wink

Judge, if I behave myself can I come on your yacht one day please?

Yes... when this takes off I will have a HUGE party! Smiley

We also own about the same amount of coins.   I'll throw in for that party.   My group is up in Canada.  Where should the Party be!!??

do it in Montreal ... so that i could join,,,lol

MONTREAL! Great city!!  Those guys know how to party!
1090  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 08:47:48 PM
gays!
thx to sell)
we must buy it all
and on 8000 satoshi/sc we have good profit

Ya have to look at the long term.  Don't think weeks or months, think years.  8000 satoshi is nothing compared to what 2015 or 2016 will look like.  I believe silkcoin will be around for the long term.
    I'm not even looking at the markets anymore.  Interested in the community building and the ecosystem being completed.  The next wave of crypto will be marketplaces and asset exchanges.  These only being birthed this year.  If you're looking for coins to buy low and sell high short term look to the rest of the Fad coins.
1091  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 08:43:54 PM
But, how do you explain the price drop we saw the last week and the extra drop after the white paper came out. Having done a lot of trading on stockexchanges, I know these kinds of things happen, but I am always trying to analyse price-behaviour.

It's fixed! Exactly after the release of the WP the price started to drop and every time the price went up, it dropped again. That wasn't because of the WP (5 minutes after release has nothing to do with the WP), because they (the ones who are jealous of this coin) waited until it came out to start the panic on the market. And the non believers, which hoped for a quick buck, started to sell their stock also.

So no worries, the WP is ok and the trust in this coin is high by it's real believers, but for now it looks like a dramatic drop which causes for panic. Just buy at this price, you are just going to thank me later for this. Since there are stocks, there are fudders which try to cause some panic. All depends on the beta version of their eco system.

There ya go.  Nicely said.
1092  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 08:36:36 PM
Silkcoin,

The registration mechanism you're proposing has an interesting application towards preexisting non-p2p systems.

Suppose a website owner who employs a home grown authentication system is able to add a Silk authentication module allowing his system to verify the identity and authenticate visitors against the blockchain. The process could be made seamless for the user via browser plug-in for challenge/response authentication, or token based a la OAuth. The website owner would never need to store the users credentials.

I believe what you're proposing, in particular, decentralized content could coexist and benefit preexisting non-p2p systems.

I'm doing some work in this area, have been hacking on Bitcoin's P2P protocol. Ping me if anyone wants to discuss further, hopefully outside the fray of the ANN thread!


I have approximately 300 crypto related domains that are scheduled for production and marketing this year.  I am also pondering over the ideas of this system and how they might be integrated.  This is why I'm looking at silk as a long term hold.  As opposed to all the pump and dump coins out there.  I want systems that will be around long term.  Not just fad coins.
1093  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 08:24:50 PM
Some people may just be a little bit familiar with scientific publications... and even if this is only a whitepaper... it doesn't meet the scientific standards. Considering the fact that the scientific standard is relatively easy to obtain if one is used to it... the conclusion would be that the devs are not familiar in the scientific world...

I don't know which word processing system the dev used... it looks like Word... brrrrr... standard would be TeX. So I can understand if people panic sell...

Thanks for your impression of the format. Could you comment on the content?
Regarding familiarity with convention, do you believe this is important in the world in crypto currencies?

White paper is not a scientific document, it originated in government and law and is more commonly used in marketing in current times.

Well just look at the indents of the headlines or at the empty lines beneath it... there is no system at all. I believe that trust in the dev is important. This whitepaper looks a little sloppy - that's all what I wanted to say. I did not want to create FUD ... I hope it will be regarded as constructive criticism. Maybe there was time pressure - well nobody cares about that - that's life.

Whitepaper is no scientific document that's right... but on the other hand informatics is teached at universities. And I think a high standard would help crypto to gain reputation in general. As it is now I never know if there is a professional being behind a paper or some highschool kids. Although highschool kids may be the most creative people... difficult to judge. Notable exception would be XC.

Regarding the content: I'm not competent enough to judge this  Smiley

I actually completely agree with you. I also feel prefer a professional looking format and attention to detail (spelling etc).
I suspect you have academic background and that you are familiar with the difficulties of academic publishing.

On the other hand, I don't really want my silkcoin devs to spend their time trying to live up to the expectations of the academic establishment. It seems to me they have a vision and that their talent lies in coding and seeing the possibilities and power of the blockchain.
If they can actually find a way to build a social network on the blockchain in a usable format, that would be immense.

I suspect there was time pressure. They have been working hard to get everything out as they promised and for me personally it inspires great trust.
Even having half a document today is much better than having no document today.

On the other hand, I also don't think they need to rush this. The market creates false expectations but what people need to remember is that there are quite a few people playing games with the exchanges. They might feel under pressure to try and keep the price buoyed up with new releases, but the price will follow the invention. If they keep calm and steady and carry on with their plan, Silkcoin will be successful.

(Also devs thanks for getting it proofread, as you can see there are harsh critics out there!)


Many people tend to forget the rules of the market in my opinion. I expected this drop. Chart doesn't look too good. Silkcoin will have some hard weeks from now on, I think. The release of the ecosystem could be a turning point... but don't be too sure about it. Many competitors are out there...
There is too much euphoric hype and too much blind FUD... on the other hand - this is what we all (hopefully) make our money with, don't we?  Wink

@Judge: I don't think, that Silk will reach Bitcoin's level. And the concept is not so new... look at NXT for example. I remember Evan from DRK saying: ''Who wants to compete with us?'' This was about one month ago. Now there are many coins ready to overtake DRK, although it may take some time.

@Silkcoin: I appreciate your work and even more your vision guys! It is my vision as well. But it's a war out there. I hope you will be victorious in some way!

Once the eco-system is secure, I believe it would be beneficial not to be at war necessarily with other coins, but to join together as an entire cryptocommunity and see the platform integrated into many wallets voted on by the silkcoin community.
1094  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 08:20:34 PM

I have not bought anymore.  At this point I have slightly more than 1% of all coins.  Like I said this could be bigger than Bitcoin.  At that rate 500k would be enough for me. Wink

Judge, if I behave myself can I come on your yacht one day please?

Yes... when this takes off I will have a HUGE party! Smiley

We also own about the same amount of coins.   I'll throw in for that party.   My group is up in Canada.  Where should the Party be!!??
1095  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 03:19:02 PM
Waiting game lol - some traders try to sell but nobody whant to buy - and some want to buy but nobody want to sell.  The gap is huge, my best guess is the white paper will push the price up - hopefully enought to create a fun rally.

I pulled out all my sell orders (was the one playing with 50k or 100k orders).

No more resistance folks - pull out your sell orders too, lets help me creating a huuuuuuuuge green candle, to attract new traders in the game !



 Agree.  Pull all sell orders.  Unite as community.
1096  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 03:12:10 PM
1097  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 03:06:33 PM
Here's Coins Source's Review of Silkcoin:

http://www.coinssource.com/crypto-coins/silkcoin/

ps. We are still very interested in doing an email interview with the Silkcoin Dev and are awaiting your response.

Nice review!
1098  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 03:01:36 PM
someone put up a 16BTC sell wall just to scoop up some cheaper coins i think
You know what's funny? I'm tempted to buy.
If he holds it there for a longer period, I'll be able to buy cheaper. I'm about to buy 15BTC worth of SC.

Eat up his wall  Grin Do it!
Okay, I'll do so.
Just because someone on the internet told me to do it.
Hope it'll make you happy ;p

Decide for yourself but in the tide of shitcoins this is the safe harbour I hold LOT of SC too and I just hold and dont daytride and try to dump etc. If you can promise to do the same I would be glad there is another guy like me in the club Smiley

Holding 250k on cold storage.  Aint goin anywhere.
1099  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 02:45:29 PM
Anytime megaman posts spam, simply place this afterwards to remind people what he is doing (trying to extort money).

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=zwyzwh&s=8#.U6U_erEuI6U

but remember, he's only here to help people out!!! he wants to help people out sooo much, that it only takes 0.5 btc to stop his righteous mission  Roll Eyes

Don't make the man important. Actually, I am really greatfull to megaman. Because of him the price is depressed under 4000 sat for a couple of days and I already managed to accumulate over 600k SC now. When we see 10 k in a couple of days, I might reward him. What do you guys think, would 0.5 btc be an appriopriate reward for him when SC reaches 10K?

 It didn't make a dollar yet?  I. Can't.  Believe.  It.  I also just sent him 20 Btc.  Because well.. That's what he need to buy a new megaman weapon.  His other weapon isn't powerful enough to fight this boss.

  If everyone sends him 20 btc, then he can finish megaman 2. And and then. He can start megaman 3.


1100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SilkCoin | New Wallet | NOW on MintPal / Cryptsy | FULL POS on: June 21, 2014, 06:27:19 AM
What's a good amount to hold would be the better question.

   I would say try and hold at least 100k.  Anything less.  Well it ain't enough.   

  Anything more.. well after this week you won't be able to afford it.
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