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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Marinecoin. Sex Lies and Videotape. Truth, scandal or scam. Thoughts?
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on: April 27, 2014, 10:24:56 PM
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Actually their pre-mine is 97%. But here is the real laugh, if that wasn't enough. The remaining 3% is to be mined at an equal rate for the next 1000 years. So even in 10 years time, there will only be 0.03% of the minable coins in the hands of the public, although they claim they will be giving away a bit from the premine.
They like to use the "rarity" of the mined coins to drive up the value of the traded coins, then take that value and add it to the total amount of "untouchable" pre-mined coins to give the coin a huge "faked" market cap. They plan on eventually selling off the "untouchable" coins, and using the money to purchase an island or some land somewhere, where they will create their own country and build a Megacity within. The only currency to be used in the Megacity is Marine coin, and their line of alt coins which they plan on releasing.
They say owning a number of their coins will be all that is needed for their citizenship in their country, and if you are a large coin holder now (Or very soon), you will be able to use their coin yacht for trip around Europe. And live the life of the rich and famous. They also claim the coin dev is from some rich/famous German family, and he has millions of dollars, so he has no need stealing from the poor people he is helping.
It doesn't help that they started out heavily using sock puppets to pump the coin.
As for the answer of Truth/Scam. I don't really know, haven't made my mind up on that. It seems on the surface to be 100% scam, but my thoughts are more leaning towards cult where the leader believes this to be true. I'm not convinced to mine or not to mine yet, as bad as it seems, it's no worse then getting behind about 97% of the other alt coins out there.
its like NXT... wtf that was entertaining but disturbing read. Can someone please post or recall this sock puppet thread? Everyone's talking about it but nobody has posted it. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Marinecoin. Sex Lies and Videotape. Truth, scandal or scam. Thoughts?
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on: April 27, 2014, 10:05:24 PM
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@Crestington - well said! @ Vivisector - I can see you gradually succumbing to the will of the Marinecoin dev. Please, please don't do it!! The Marinecoin developer is somewhat of a wordsmith and he hides his lack of technical ability behind some very convincing and very well thought out responses. As I've said before, if the dev was so great at programming, his currency wouldn't be running on an antiquated version of Litecoin and wouldn't be suffering from hash rate spikes. Such a talented individual would have created a brilliant difficulty retargeting mechanism to get around these issues. He's already confessed to buying hash power to recover the blockchain, which is an approach that completely contradicts his boasts of greatness. I'd like to know if there is anybody out there who would genuinely mine Marinecoin? The meagre scraps (2.54%) left on the blockchain are hardly worth bothering with as it will take approx 963 years to mine them  . Instamining 97%+ has only created a rod for the back of the dev because it will draw in many opportunist attackers who would prefer to waste their electricity gaining the satisfaction of bringing Marinecoin down because it's sure as hell not worth trying to support it. The dev also talks of the ability to manipulate market prices. It's pretty clear this has been happening for a while but to hear it straight from him should ring alarm bells for anybody who is considering involvement with this coin. Marinecoin not only epitomizes everything that is wrong with altcoins but it adds a unique layer of sinisterness and subversion. It doesn't deserve to be traded on any markets in any way, shape or form and how it got listed on these is a complete fucking mystery to my way of thinking. Anybody who buys this coin or buys into its philosophy needs a mental evaluation. Pronto. Yeh, after talking personally with the developer on the phone for over an hour asking every possible question i could muster, including ethnicity, family background, programming knowledge, work history etc etc etc, he answered every question without holding back or blinking for a lie. I have been charged in this thread with 'mutual masturbation', been accused of being a liar, a shill account, a sock puppet; not contacting the dev directly instead of starting this thread.. Now understand this was my first fucking thread. Didnt even start a new coin, was torn to shreds by over 90% of posts. With allegations and lies that have 0% to back with. When the dev says 'you fools' in his slightly broken english, all you fucking hyenas start yipping and barking against one man standing against.. oh i dunno, someone else count how many against or posts making unproven allegations absolutely no different then his unproven claims of a possible fuckin utopia?? Yeh you fuckin hyenas aint welcome, because yes you are fools and morons, probably never dumped more then a 1000 bux on a coin anyways and are worthless in the grand scheme of anything unified and great. You hyenas are the reason no coin be it honest or good or evil and shitcoin, will pump and dump and destroy any dream while cackling at the next Visionary so you can make your few hundred bux instead of.working a real.job. This thread pisses me off and you cackling hyenas make me sick Missed this in the first paragraph. I BOUGHT MARINECOINS - just to spite all you fucks 'Enter the hyena kingMissed this in the first paragraph. I BOUGHT MARINECOINS - just to spite all you fucks 'Enter the hyena king'' |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Marinecoin. Sex Lies and Videotape. Truth, scandal or scam. Thoughts?
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on: April 27, 2014, 09:58:08 PM
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@Crestington - well said! @ Vivisector - I can see you gradually succumbing to the will of the Marinecoin dev. Please, please don't do it!! The Marinecoin developer is somewhat of a wordsmith and he hides his lack of technical ability behind some very convincing and very well thought out responses. As I've said before, if the dev was so great at programming, his currency wouldn't be running on an antiquated version of Litecoin and wouldn't be suffering from hash rate spikes. Such a talented individual would have created a brilliant difficulty retargeting mechanism to get around these issues. He's already confessed to buying hash power to recover the blockchain, which is an approach that completely contradicts his boasts of greatness. I'd like to know if there is anybody out there who would genuinely mine Marinecoin? The meagre scraps (2.54%) left on the blockchain are hardly worth bothering with as it will take approx 963 years to mine them . Instamining 97%+ has only created a rod for the back of the dev because it will draw in many opportunist attackers who would prefer to waste their electricity gaining the satisfaction of bringing Marinecoin down because it's sure as hell not worth trying to support it. The dev also talks of the ability to manipulate market prices. It's pretty clear this has been happening for a while but to hear it straight from him should ring alarm bells for anybody who is considering involvement with this coin. Marinecoin not only epitomizes everything that is wrong with altcoins but it adds a unique layer of sinisterness and subversion. It doesn't deserve to be traded on any markets in any way, shape or form and how it got listed on these is a complete fucking mystery to my way of thinking. Anybody who buys this coin or buys into its philosophy needs a mental evaluation. Pronto. Yeh, after talking personally with the developer on the phone for over an hour asking every possible question i could muster, including ethnicity, family background, programming knowledge, work history etc etc etc, he answered every question without holding back or blinking for a lie. I have been charged in this thread with 'mutual masturbation', been accused of being a liar, a shill account, a sock puppet; not contacting the dev directly instead of starting this thread.. Now understand this was my first fucking thread. Didnt even start a new coin, was torn to shreds by over 90% of posts. With allegations and lies that have 0% to back with. When the dev says 'you fools' in his slightly broken english, all you fucking hyenas start yipping and barking against one man standing against.. oh i dunno, someone else count how many against or posts making unproven allegations absolutely no different then his unproven claims of a possible fuckin utopia?? Yeh you fuckin hyenas aint welcome, because yes you are fools and morons, probably never dumped more then a 1000 bux on a coin anyways and are worthless in the grand scheme of anything unified and great. You hyenas are the reason no coin be it honest or good or evil and shitcoin, will pump and dump and destroy any dream while cackling at the next Visionary so you can make your few hundred bux instead of.working a real.job. This thread pisses me off and you cackling hyenas make me sick |
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Other / Off-topic / Re: Define Trolling.
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on: April 22, 2014, 08:34:09 PM
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The people they annoy and why is it so hard for people on this forum to read an English sentence? I keep finding myself reading back on my posts to make sure I haven't made a mistake and the majority of the time it's the idiot on the other end not reading it properly.
Well you seem to get annoyed quite easily and your sentence wasn't clear who you meant. So people probably have reason to question your unclear sentences, you just seem to be unaware of this. Legit example of trolling right here. Or maybe you're trolling. It's clear when you make statements like that that you're one of the people who misuse the word. There's a difference between a discusion with differing views. Nahh this isn't trolling. Why I started this thread. I don't think trolling is defined and a lot of forums are trying to ban trolling. Still not defined. |
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on: April 22, 2014, 02:04:54 PM
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The people they annoy and why is it so hard for people on this forum to read an English sentence? I keep finding myself reading back on my posts to make sure I haven't made a mistake and the majority of the time it's the idiot on the other end not reading it properly.
Well you seem to get annoyed quite easily and your sentence wasn't clear who you meant. So people probably have reason to question your unclear sentences, you just seem to be unaware of this. Legit example of trolling right here.  And why did you use bold here? I dunno. I'm trying to find myself. Why didn't you use bold there? |
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on: April 22, 2014, 01:42:11 PM
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The people they annoy and why is it so hard for people on this forum to read an English sentence? I keep finding myself reading back on my posts to make sure I haven't made a mistake and the majority of the time it's the idiot on the other end not reading it properly.
Well you seem to get annoyed quite easily and your sentence wasn't clear who you meant. So people probably have reason to question your unclear sentences, you just seem to be unaware of this. Legit example of trolling right here. |
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on: April 22, 2014, 01:32:45 PM
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LOL!! This thread is awesome! I tried to make the definition that trolling is subjective comments while regular posting would be objective comments.. But I believe that definition is completely incorrect. Let me try and properly troll this thread.. "You're an idiot. Whoever posted this thread is a moron. I would smack the stupid off this guys face if I had the chance to... Who doesn't know what a troll is?" Well this is actually a subjective comment as opposed to an objective comment so maybe my definition is correct? Beyond that How's that for trolling myself? Anyone got anything better? Trolls awake! Roast this thread in the most trolling fashion you can muster! Then we can all know what trolls really are!! |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Marinecoin. Sex Lies and Videotape. Truth, scandal or scam. Thoughts?
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on: April 22, 2014, 12:08:41 AM
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Yeh i guess that would make every coin a troll. which reinforces the notion you're not using the term correctly if 'troll' encompasses all cryptocurrencies. Meh, thread hasnt said much other then what is on their site. Unconvinced either way.
If that's true, I would advise you to direct your hard questions towards the 'developer', who is in your thread. Instead of taking the developer to task in this thread, you instead end up in mutual masturbation with the marine coin developer talking "utopian ideas". Yep my first thread. Pming with the developer now Was more.interested knowing what else has been talked about please post here if you have any interesting thread. When i search marinecoin on this site almost nothing comes up. Why i posted this thread. Tried to answer as many posts as possible. Been fun. Good entry into the forums i hope. If anyone believes its actually me haha |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Marinecoin. Sex Lies and Videotape. Truth, scandal or scam. Thoughts?
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on: April 21, 2014, 11:11:09 PM
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who knows if you're the developer, or a developer for another coin. who the fuck cares. you are likely a shill account, though. Asked for any info. Not just trolls. just becuase you don't agree with someone, doesn't mean they're trolling. they disagree with your limited experience.
The market cap is not 'faked'... And yes, every coin has a tactic on driving up the price of the coin. That is the game.
Going by your own definition: Marinecoin is a troll. Trolls driving price on exchanges up and down. Yeh i guess that would make every coin a troll. And im not agreeing or disagreeing with anything except info about this backed up with a pile of speculative shit. Havent seen any hard proof either way about marinecoin. Only thing i got out of this thread is of the apparent poor or old coding, an a bunch of 'sounds like' 'And most likely is like'. Looking for fails or props, more just like fuck this guy who is pretending to be someone else. I started this thread and dev jumped in. Like meth in here. Haters by has been. Meh, thread hasnt said much other then what is on their site. Unconvinced either way. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Marinecoin. Sex Lies and Videotape. Truth, scandal or scam. Thoughts?
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on: April 21, 2014, 10:52:29 PM
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Yes delusional perhaps but great dreams are born from delusions.. and is designed to have small markey growth to stabalize.the coin.
Gotta look at the absolute idea of the thing. It is truly genius in my opinion. Maybe not the first and.last, but definitely still possibility. Im pretty sure we'll be seeing this coin bounce around the marketcap for some time yet.
Think i am looking for validation on errors in the coin or even something more then one sided troll.chatter on a forum.. ha
Cmon give me something more.then this idea is too radical and the guy is probably insane. Thats just truth mixed with heresay
Well, it's your money. If you feel safe investing in delusions, be my guest. And yes, many coins and new inventions may have great dreams. But there is a difference between an achievable dream and downright nuttiness. It probably will bounce around marketcap, but so what? Again, I stated to look at volume, not its fake cap number. People actually aren't even trolling in this thread, much to my surprise. Almost everyone thinks the coin looks way too fishy, relies on a gigantic premine, and the dev is using infommercial-speak on his website. The title of your thread is truth, scandal or scam. We offered our thoughts... just because we think negatively of the coin it doesn't make people a troll. Yeh most this thread isnt trolling. I think people actually think im a dev for marinecoin. Trolling is being subjective rather then objective in conversation i would think. And yes it does look like an infomercial and is making incredible claims of citys and yachts with a bunch of rich pricks dancing with wine and fancy haircuts.. im a long haired bearded fucker who doesnt wear suits and drinks beer out of a can like real people do. Thats not what interests me at all, pretty sure that bit should be toned down and perhaps a poor marketing plan.. haha im am interested though in a centralized democratic cryptocurrency. Even the possibility of one. If the premine is used properly even crazy ideas like boats and cities is possible. So truth scandal or scam? Scandal for sure, truth mostly so far (why i am here trying to find.out things i dont know) and scam? Havent seen any scamming so far. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Marinecoin. Sex Lies and Videotape. Truth, scandal or scam. Thoughts?
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on: April 21, 2014, 09:35:52 PM
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Interested in supporting the coin further and finding out the other half of all your so far useless and speculative trolls.
Asked for any info. Not just trolls. But thats what this forum mostly is. Trolls driving price on exchanges up and down. Haha cmon troll.harder kiddies. Give me something that will actually change my mind about marinecoin, not just piss in my face.
There is natural suspicion when new people seem pro anything in this forum. And in many cases, it's justified. I do admit it's suspcious that anyone would be pro-marine coin, and it does look bad since the dev has been known to spam and use sock puppets before. LOL thank you!! Haha i was just about to ask what a sock puppet was. Haha [/quote] 'Designed to be the crypto standard for the next thousand years.' 'Marinecoin City Project, The Ultimate City for the Ultimate People.' 'The Maritime Tower, datacenter & central trading floor. NewYork City' It reads like a bad infommercial. Either the developer is a scammer or clearly delusional .. or both. And the way the premine is set up, it basically games the market cap to make it look bigger than it really is. The key number to look at is volume. 24 hr volume of $2100. You can pick coins that nobody has heard of, with tiny market caps, that easily double that. [/quote] Yes delusional perhaps but great dreams are born from delusions.. and is designed to have small markey growth to stabalize.the coin. Gotta look at the absolute idea of the thing. It is truly genius in my opinion. Maybe not the first and.last, but definitely still possibility. Im pretty sure we'll be seeing this coin bounce around the marketcap for some time yet. Think i am looking for validation on errors in the coin or even something more then one sided troll.chatter on a forum.. ha Cmon give me something more.then this idea is too radical and the guy is probably insane. Thats just truth mixed with heresay |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Marinecoin. Sex Lies and Videotape. Truth, scandal or scam. Thoughts?
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on: April 21, 2014, 09:19:09 PM
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Proof of transaction i believe pays merchants for using the currency for their business. Proof of stake is just a nice interest builder for someone like me to keep his wallet open. Does this not add speed to the network? More active connections the better?
It seems a lot of these coins are being built by or on the etherum programming base. Using the blockchain to its utmost potential. Messaging in wallets, contracts and corporations forged on the blockchain etc.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Marinecoin. Sex Lies and Videotape. Truth, scandal or scam. Thoughts?
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on: April 21, 2014, 08:54:22 PM
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I cant seem to find much writing about marinecoin on this forum.
If anyone has any links to threads or thoughts on the subject, id love to hear em.
I am the developer, what do you want to know about Marinecoin? contact me from the website. you can't get facts on the threads, this is the usual spot for slanderers. Yep im on the site forum for marine coin. And i believe i have the facts correct. It is a utopian dream. But is also.strange that so many 'slanderers' as youve mentioned exist in the forums are not ripping the idea to shreds. Premines scare people because it puts the power in the hands of the devs.. but as the site says. Built in mutual trust. Which is the only way it could work. We've all learned our lessons which the country coins and airdrop coins to find they are worthless as the airdrop.is immediately cashed in on the exchanges. I have a feeling if marinecoin is honest, this idea will work and all of the dreamy/cultish idealism can be strangely but logically possible. Just was wondering what the general public outside of the marinecoin site was thinking. Okay understand, you can always invest in an other coin, the devs have the power no matter what, premine or not, they can diminish your investment to 0 if they have the intent you don't need pre-mine for that, but it all comes down to intent, also How are you going find a Dev who will work for you for free or based on ridiculous donations for the next 10-15 years to make things happen, Marinecoin is designed in a way that it is able to pay salaries to of the line professionals in their respective fields and outsource what ever its needed to stay ahead the curve without looking at the sticker price. 1 year later %75 of all devs will throw the towel the rest will follow soon after, I will be here we will talk later. Yep i hear ya. Without premines, there is no money to manage the coin and all the salaries incorporated with having a proper dev team. One fellow did bring up an interesting point about old litecoin code. I am not a developer (or you as others have implied haha) but i have noticed the pos revolution taking off and now seeing things like proof of transaction, proof of resource, proof of transaction, proof of risk etc.. Any plans with marinecoin to develop code to move forward with the rise of technological advance we are seeing? I think pos and pot are great ideas and would like to see that ability for marinecoin in the future. You POS the Dev just enough to pay his rent and see what type of service you will be getting in return, What marinecoin is talking about is corporation level development mostly in merchant integration. Honestly I don't see any technological development I look at their code time to time which they call revolutionary, yeah what ever. For a non-programmer it may seem something tangible is being developed, but every programmer on this forum knows its just a few more lines of code with couple of functions which will most probably come with many flaws and broke other things in the process, we are not seeing any substantial development, another fact is that how much development is really necessary to move one number from one wallet to the other wallet? The banks with all their resources all they do is move numbers from one bank account to the other, technological development claims are overrated and almost came to a point now are used as a scam. I believe the whole point of marinecoin is to use that premine money to pay people such as yourself to help in development to make it better. And yeh.. centralized cryptocurrency.. ill be signing up for a cryptovisa 100% and will take my banking there if and when they gain credibility. There is a voting system and many plans to develop what would look to be a democratic FED which yes is a utopian dream but also a possibility. I havent ruled.this coin out yet because the dev who writes on the site actually seems to believe in such a radical idea and has devoted his life to it. If it is an apartment.. there is nothing wrong.with that. All great things start with being humble. If i knew how to code i would be donating my time in hopes that this utopian idea succeeded. |
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