I really like this coins. It's sort of a treasure hunt, checking if you may have some coins left with some other wallet  |
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I dont know if cancel or go on with the order... dunno
Have you looked at the litecoin mining calculators? The 50Mh/s unit IF delivered in July should return a profit. Depends a bit on if LTC keeps crapping down on us. I think the average result of the calculators was 3 point something LTC a day on the small unit. Anyone do any calculations on the miners and LTC difficulty? I used a 3% rising difficulty, not sure if that is a good setting or not. Did you do any side calculations to take into account the net effect of all AT gear hitting the network? I believe they originally had 2,500 machines selling in batch one--might be off a little on that number. Also bear in mind the other petahashes coming from other distributors in June/July. Just off the hip, I would've used 20% difficulty hop. This is without looking at any data sheets. And when KNC's stuff hits the market, the gloves will be off. They're coming out of tapeout on their first gen units, in fact they should already be working with the chips right now to reach their Q2/Q3 delivery projections (I'm personally thinking July/August). Not sure if you follow KNC, but their first gen gear will triple LTC global hashrate. And their 2nd and 3rd batch orders are processing. 20% for LTC is a lot. The difficulty for LTC changes more often than that of BTC, so generally the changes are smaller. I am using 3% as low estimate for the short term, and 10% as a high estimate. |
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WE have hammered most details... a PMC+ is near....
Nullu, Maardien, TheMightyX <<< These guys have the tough job.... giving away 500k PMC+ in some sort of fair manner July-Dec 2013...
Getmininginfo is going to script us a neat PMC/destruction address where you send PMC that is signed with your PMC+ address and I get perhaps a list/email something with the Amount of PMC destroyed and the amount to send to PMC+.....
That part I think should still be done by my hand in case any shenannigans occur....
July 1st is the hoped official rollout... Giveaways will commence at that time and last through the end of the year... i.e. 6 months....
PMC to PMC+ swapping will last for exactly 1 month. Starting July first ( and earlier by message ) And will be completely transparent...
After that period the remaining swap coins will be locked away in a nice cold wallet ( or somesuch ) until the end of the giveaway period at which time we will have a second ( and last chance ) to buy PMC+ with PMC....
It may be a 'good deal' at that second time, or maybe the remaining PMC will be valuable again and no one will take up the second swap offer. But in any case we will be continuing the story of PMC ( The first 100 percent distributed coin ) and the story is a good and honorable one.
Lets do our best, and have some fun!
All sounds good. Can't wait for the revival of PMC! |
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I think PMC+ looks nice. No other coin has a '+' in its ticker, which makes this one stand out on exchanges etc.
Agree. But when go to big market? We are at poloniex, which is quite a good exchange in my opinion already. With more exchanges we are spreading the buys even more. |
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I think PMC+ looks nice. No other coin has a '+' in its ticker, which makes this one stand out on exchanges etc.
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Maardien, it might be a good idea to let the network go quiet until such a time that we are ready to switch over. Then you could facilitate the trade and we can put PMC1 to rest for good. I don't think we can in good conscience ask you to keep running the network. In fact, if that difficulty was to come down I could run it on one of my work computers.
I don't mind keeping the network running for another month or so. I think as long as we have a working exchange and multipool, we need to have working transactions. Thanks to whoever sent me 250PMC! Let's hope it will be worth something in the future Something like the stepped exchange could be good, but the suggested rate is way to steep. I know I would 'cheat' the system by making multiple wallets. |
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Kleine aanpassing, vers van de pers:
The new hash rates are as follows:
18Mh/s => Minimum 50Mh/s
90Mh/s => Minimum 250Mh/s
Daarentegen is de gratis hashrate van de cloud mining service geen onderdeel meer.
Correct, nu minimaal 50Mh/s. |
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I have kept quit up till now, but I haven't received any coins either. I have been on the original list for a long time.
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Any one paid the remaining funds?
I'm not paying anything at the moment. i'm not paying at the moment too, but i don't wanna lose my pre order I sent them an email asking what I would get as a refund if I would cancel, but didn't get any reply after two days. well next week they claim we will (usa) be able to pay via credit card..that is 60 days on my amex card..as a buffer they don't come thru i'd likely get it ALL refunded not just the 70% I owe...so on that safety note (call your credit card company it was an informal reply but was a reply) I also think that if i initiate a dispute before the 60 days on amex then you get more time as they sort thru it should? be enough of a buffer to see how this works and if it tanks should be able to get all the $$ back imho via cc option imho hope i'm wrong but then again i just have 1 2300 buck usd vyper...so wtf...not sure what i'd do with the bigger unit coming anyway my play on this Searing I didn't think about the creditcard. Is that the purchase protection? I have bought with mastercard, they have a 180days purchase protection/insurance. If this would be covered, I could give it a go |
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Post or PM the details on this...I can throw some hashes to it.
Sent you a PM. |
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yes we have to move forward to PMC2. How can POS work when there is only a limited number of coins?
Well, staking works by just having your wallet open. So, everyone who uses PMC+ is also mining. This does not require any investments, and barely costs any CPU power. This way you can keep transactions going no matter if there is a reward or not. As an incentive we could keep a little PMC+ as POS rewards at the start, and maybe gradually reduce this until there is no POS reward left. Could everyone stop with all the "we need to ... " and instead start doing that?
I agree. I think TheMightyX should just start the development of a new POS coin with 1.000.000 premined coins. I would also suggest having a mandatory transaction fee of at least 0.0001PMC+. We can discuss how the premined coins will be distributed during development. |
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I could always put my block rewarder back on. I'm still happy to distribute PMC to reward miners, but if the coin is being abandoned, is there much point?
No there isn't a point really. But the chain needs to be kept alive until the swap at least. I don't really need more PMC, I have quite a bit of it already. But it does proof I think that we need to move to POS, and abandon the old PMC. I don't think there will be anyone left using and mining the old PMC. We should start moving things. It does feel good that I would be able to do a 100% attack on the network though  |
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I'm glad they put the web GUI back in. That would have been a pain to get a computer or Pi set up.
Can't complain here, if they are on track and I get my 50 MH unit in July, I should be able to break even.
I understand some of the complaints, but considering this quickly moving field, I think people should be a bit more open to some of the possibilities and be thankful. That said, I know things aren't rosy all over and hope we all come out winners.
Looking forward to the details on the web GUI - I guess this means the miner will now be internally controlled?
Thx,
IAS
IF they are on track AND we get our miner in July, I am not complaining. However, I haven't seen any solid proof that assures me that they are on track, and delivering on time. Anyone could have written those 'updates', but there is no proof anywhere. If they were at least able to show a prototype, and some hashing units, I would gladly pay the remaining part of my order. I have two PI's running currently anyway, so I wouldn't mind having no GUI. |
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My Wallet stopp synchronizing at block 170886. Wallet is back since 27h ....
looks like there are no block generated at all any more?
I had a power outage at my home, and somehow had some trouble getting my miners up and running again after that. Seems like I am the only one still mining PMC? Yeah looks like that you are the only one mining PMC. My wallets are synced now. I don't have any asic miner to join mining  Yeah, bit disappointing. Let's hope my miners do not break down then... Also, it's still not paying anything. I just check, and I mined 42318 blocks last month (yes, over 42 thousand blocks). It paid 1.4PMC in transaction fees, of which 1PMC is from a single transaction. So 0.4PMC in 42317 blocks. So, currently, I am spending around $20 montly to keep the network up, with no return whatsoever... [edit] I just started the PMC wallet on the server I have running for thenodeslist.com (yes, that website needs an overhaul/update). You can use it as a node: addnode=thenodeslist.com:9335 If anyone feels like mining, I can give the details to connect to that server so you can mine without having to keep a pc running. There is no pool or anything, it is just like solomining, but to a remote location. As stated before, there is practically no payout, so I am not going to set up a pool. It would be just to make sure the network keeps running. [/edit] |
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Any one paid the remaining funds?
I'm not paying anything at the moment. i'm not paying at the moment too, but i don't wanna lose my pre order I sent them an email asking what I would get as a refund if I would cancel, but didn't get any reply after two days. You can calculate that yourself by using https://alpha-t.net/terms-order/Quote: Cancellation & Refund Policy
You may cancel your order at any point within the five month period following the date on which we received payment of your deposit (provided that your product has not yet shipped). The amount of the deposit you will be refunded will depend on when we receive your cancellation:
Up to 1 month after receipt of payment: Full deposit, less the cancellation fee, will be refunded.
More than 1 month and up to 3 months after receipt of payment: 75% of the deposit, less the cancellation fee, will be refunded.
More than 3 months and up to 5 months after receipt of payment : 50% of the deposit, less the cancellation fee, will be refunded.
On cancellation you will also be required to pay a cancellation fee of £70 towards handling charges. We will deduct the cancellation fee from the amount due to be refunded to you in accordance with the terms above before we process the refund.
Yes, but that policy is contradicting both EU as well as UK consumer law. I agree, but you'll have to go to court to get any better than what you agreed to when you ordered. Might be a good time to put my legal insurance to the test... |
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Any one paid the remaining funds?
I'm not paying anything at the moment. i'm not paying at the moment too, but i don't wanna lose my pre order I sent them an email asking what I would get as a refund if I would cancel, but didn't get any reply after two days. You can calculate that yourself by using https://alpha-t.net/terms-order/Quote: Cancellation & Refund Policy
You may cancel your order at any point within the five month period following the date on which we received payment of your deposit (provided that your product has not yet shipped). The amount of the deposit you will be refunded will depend on when we receive your cancellation:
Up to 1 month after receipt of payment: Full deposit, less the cancellation fee, will be refunded.
More than 1 month and up to 3 months after receipt of payment: 75% of the deposit, less the cancellation fee, will be refunded.
More than 3 months and up to 5 months after receipt of payment : 50% of the deposit, less the cancellation fee, will be refunded.
On cancellation you will also be required to pay a cancellation fee of £70 towards handling charges. We will deduct the cancellation fee from the amount due to be refunded to you in accordance with the terms above before we process the refund.
Yes, but that policy is contradicting both EU as well as UK consumer law. |
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Any one paid the remaining funds?
I'm not paying anything at the moment. i'm not paying at the moment too, but i don't wanna lose my pre order I sent them an email asking what I would get as a refund if I would cancel, but didn't get any reply after two days. |
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Any one paid the remaining funds?
I'm not paying anything at the moment. |
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My Wallet stopp synchronizing at block 170886. Wallet is back since 27h ....
looks like there are no block generated at all any more?
I had a power outage at my home, and somehow had some trouble getting my miners up and running again after that. Seems like I am the only one still mining PMC? |
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This sounds fun and interesting. However, I was wondering, is there a way to check your clam balance (or the balance you are 'entitled' to) without importing your wallet.dat first?
A complicated answer: Yes, and No. If you understood change addresses (which do NOT show up in the client, and most users don't even know they have them) you could take a look at the CLAMS block chain and see if those addresses have a balance. However, to make this even more difficult, the first time you start the Bitcoin, Litecoin, or Dogecoin Client it creates no less than 100 change addresses. However, to make this even more difficult, every single time you send coins you use up a change address, and your Client periodically creates more change addresses. However, to make this even more difficult, the addresses in the Bitcoin, Litecoin, or Dogecoin Client would need to be converted into an address that could be searched on the CLAM Network. This would require a hand-rolled script. So, the short answer is, "yes." The Long answer is, "It is quite difficult." Ok, I understand it would take a lot of time. Another question. If I have multiple wallets (say dogecoin and litecoin), is there a way to import multiple wallet.dat files? I tried 'importwallet' but I am getting an error, probably because the wallet.dat is encrypted. Is there a way to import, without first undoing encryption of original wallet, saving unencrypted wallet.dat, and re-encrypting? |
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