This guy keeps copying me like a fucking parrot...WTF...I think I have a fan.
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half a btc until 1 satoshi dev, what the hell
i am starting to lose faith in MAMM
Mamm did not rise on SUPER's good news, in fact it did nothing. My opinion is the market rejects non-unique coins that just copy other coins marketing/ tech. It's a marketing problem really, people are going to assume this is a copycoin just like how Feathercoin copied Litecoin. The reality is that the Mamm dev is working with the SUPER dev to develop the anon but that is not how most people will interpret it. We are going to end up with SUPER 'owning' the phase two market and little benefit for Mamm. I mean hell the anon name is SuperSend Phase Two not Mammoths Gone Wild hate to say it but i agree... this coin is officially DEAD looks like someone traded about 3btc worth of coin to themselves in a ping pong buy sell manuver to keep volume up on bittrex and ate the trade fees... that will help keep the coin around for another week at least... guess thats good... Heres what I don't understand. That trade involved about 900k MAMM. Which is around 15% of the total coin supply. There are no wallets that large, so multiple accounts were used, or as I suspected earlier - the rich list is wrong.... Also, to look at the rich list, only a couple of the top 20 made changes soon after the big sale/transfer. Wallets not totaling more than 300k. . . Any theories on this? Yes, this coin is being totally market manipulated, since anon wallet release when price get stuck at 3k-4k sat with 70 BTC volume....the rich list is fake/wrong, my wallet adress doesnīt show my total coins at all...something is very obscure here. Phase 2? Yeah, letīs see the pump and dump scenario again, IF it happens, as you have said. I think there is a bot trading in Bittrex for MAMM, as Supercoin scamcoin have too: Its a big IF sure, but it won't be a simple pump/dump IF/When it happens. There is massive value in such an upgrade, IF its real. But yes, someone with control of a whole lot of coins is moving them around using multiple wallets and bots. If they're squeezing what they can out of current buyers, they aren't getting much as there is low demand, but maybe thats the motivation... They could also be manipulating the price lower to acquire more coins, but, if you've got 15% already - how much do you really need? 15% of a coin that soars is more than enough to make a big profit, and more than you'd be able to sell without tanking the price anyways. If you've already got 15%, there isn't really a reason to try and get more. Yes, this coin is being totally market manipulated, since anon wallet release when price get stuck at 3k-4k sat with 70 BTC volume....the rich list is fake/wrong, my wallet adress doesnīt show my total coins at all...something is very obscure here. Phase 2? Yeah, letīs see the pump and dump scenario again, IF it happens, as you have said. Whoa, deja vu?!? I'm confused. Did you add to this conversation by copy/pasting what jpouza said earlier? Are you the same user under a different name copy/pasting the same commentary?. . .haha, I don't get it sorry. |
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half a btc until 1 satoshi dev, what the hell
i am starting to lose faith in MAMM
Mamm did not rise on SUPER's good news, in fact it did nothing. My opinion is the market rejects non-unique coins that just copy other coins marketing/ tech. It's a marketing problem really, people are going to assume this is a copycoin just like how Feathercoin copied Litecoin. The reality is that the Mamm dev is working with the SUPER dev to develop the anon but that is not how most people will interpret it. We are going to end up with SUPER 'owning' the phase two market and little benefit for Mamm. I mean hell the anon name is SuperSend Phase Two not Mammoths Gone Wild hate to say it but i agree... this coin is officially DEAD looks like someone traded about 3btc worth of coin to themselves in a ping pong buy sell manuver to keep volume up on bittrex and ate the trade fees... that will help keep the coin around for another week at least... guess thats good... Heres what I don't understand. That trade involved about 900k MAMM. Which is around 15% of the total coin supply. There are no wallets that large, so multiple accounts were used, or as I suspected earlier - the rich list is wrong.... Also, to look at the rich list, only a couple of the top 20 made changes soon after the big sale/transfer. Wallets not totaling more than 300k. . . Any theories on this? Yes, this coin is being totally market manipulated, since anon wallet release when price get stuck at 3k-4k sat with 70 BTC volume....the rich list is fake/wrong, my wallet adress doesnīt show my total coins at all...something is very obscure here. Phase 2? Yeah, letīs see the pump and dump scenario again, IF it happens, as you have said. I think there is a bot trading in Bittrex for MAMM, as Supercoin scamcoin have too: Its a big IF sure, but it won't be a simple pump/dump IF/When it happens. There is massive value in such an upgrade, IF its real. But yes, someone with control of a whole lot of coins is moving them around using multiple wallets and bots. If they're squeezing what they can out of current buyers, they aren't getting much as there is low demand, but maybe thats the motivation... They could also be manipulating the price lower to acquire more coins, but, if you've got 15% already - how much do you really need? 15% of a coin that soars is more than enough to make a big profit, and more than you'd be able to sell without tanking the price anyways. If you've already got 15%, there isn't really a reason to try and get more. |
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half a btc until 1 satoshi dev, what the hell
i am starting to lose faith in MAMM
Mamm did not rise on SUPER's good news, in fact it did nothing. My opinion is the market rejects non-unique coins that just copy other coins marketing/ tech. It's a marketing problem really, people are going to assume this is a copycoin just like how Feathercoin copied Litecoin. The reality is that the Mamm dev is working with the SUPER dev to develop the anon but that is not how most people will interpret it. We are going to end up with SUPER 'owning' the phase two market and little benefit for Mamm. I mean hell the anon name is SuperSend Phase Two not Mammoths Gone Wild hate to say it but i agree... this coin is officially DEAD looks like someone traded about 3btc worth of coin to themselves in a ping pong buy sell manuver to keep volume up on bittrex and ate the trade fees... that will help keep the coin around for another week at least... guess thats good... Heres what I don't understand. That trade involved about 900k MAMM. Which is around 15% of the total coin supply. There are no wallets that large, so multiple accounts were used, or as I suspected earlier - the rich list is wrong.... Also, to look at the rich list, only a couple of the top 20 made changes soon after the big sale/transfer. Wallets not totaling more than 300k. . . Any theories on this? |
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Could somebody update the OP already -_-
OP updated, been very busy coding, PHASE 2 will be great. The power of MAMM is not yet fully understood and this is great chance for some. MAMM is fast, MAMM is animal friendly, MAMM is HUGE MAMM will be decentralized anonymous coin. MAMM will be owned by many shops & exchanges and widely used. This is real big news for altcoin industry. Just a suggestion. Fast isn't enough of a feature to make the coin stand out. Fastcoin was the fastest for a long time, even had the name - everyone abandoned it. Animal friendly is completely unsubstantiated. It may be a goal, but its not true as of right now, so this is another things we should underplay for now. Decentralized and anonymous is HUGE, this should be the focus whenever you're explaining why this is a good coin. Potential for a huge upgrade unlike anything before. Keep mentioning this also because as someone rightly pointed out, I think most people don't realize MAMM and SUPER devs are working together on this update, but SUPER is getting more attention for it. Evidence: SUPER market cap consistently 5-10X MAMM. |
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Top 10 has 3,201,099 MAMM and that is 50.81 % of all coins. So whoever wants to get rich with mamm, please invest at least 5 btc before dumping all that coins. http://chainz.cryptoid.info/mamm/#!richThis list is false, I don't know why, but its wrong. Bittrex may be serving multiple people out of the same wallet. I have a bittrex account that would show up on this list, and its not there. I am in the top 25, but my amount is not showing anywhere here. As for the coin's supposed death. Even if it is de-listed for low volume, unless the dev stops working, that isn't death. They come out with phase 2, watch how quick it shows back up on exchanges. Its true the exchanges respect demand. There will be big demand for this coin If/When the big IF happens. The only thing that would stop that is another dev team beating them to fully anonymous and decentralized. The race is against other teams, not against the flighty nature of gamblers. |
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*Update by dev 27th July* test phase in about 3 weeks from now, plus or minus a week. Remember that the test phase means that all the implementations will basically be complete, and it will be running end-to-end. This of course means that there are still bugs to fix, and it is not releasable at that time. Usually it can be released after 1-2 weeks of testing. I'm going to follow this timeline also. I only need a week to make the video. So when they've announced the testing phase officially, I'll put the vid together and it should be ready for them at the same time they release. Sound good? |
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Sure coins rise on promotion, no argument here whatsoever.
But SUPER and MAMM are different equations for now. They are incomplete. You can't properly promote something that isn't finished, especially when finishing is uncertain.
The existing features are comparable to other coins in its price range, its not undervalued at all for what it is here and now.
Consider this:
Lets say you spend great time and money promoting this coin. The price goes up on your efforts (people listen to you and buy coins). Then what? If phase 2 fails you've just misled all those people on false promises. If the devs turn out to be liars or incompetent there is NO future here whatsoever, it'll be worth nothing in no time. Everyone you convinced to buy loses everything. If the devs do what they've laid out, the coin will soar to incredible heights with or without pre-phase 2 marketing....So look at it this way. 1)you convince a lot of people to lose money 2)you waste effort on something that was pointless.
That said, I'm happy to vote for Cryptobull. I just want to express my opinion that our marketing efforts should be on what we plan to do when phase 2 comes out, not what we do now. No one should be expecting to make any money here before phase 2 happens, if they do, its on a false pump/bubble.
I own about 2000 SUPER and 50000 MAMM.
I am with you on that,thats for sure.You are right about keeping promises,about achieving something before put all your efforts and time in it.I am glad that you posted your coins amount i forgot my mamooth sorry they are 10 000 coins. On the other hand just siting and waiting is not my style and i speak for myself only. I think that promotion must start because we don't know really when Phase II is coming. maybe tomorrow maybe for my birthday  , maybe in 1-2 weeks. The SuperCoin team said that he is working on an upgraded RoadMap with dates ai think that he is just syncing and consulting the DEV himself for the same reason you mentioned for not making false promises and to lift up the spirits. I must say that if we are organized we can move mountains!!!! I will give you and example: 1 member of us is emailing let say BTer, ifi was bter i would say : Hey good coin MAYBE,but no volume on trades,mmm no i am telling this guy to forget it. Now my scenario: 50 people sending email with link provided,to Bter. than the picture will be different because strong community equal = stable economy this is in life in crypto everywhere. now some calculations: u have 2000 super coins * 0.00001132=0.022 btc = 10,12 euro which is not cool now after the 50mails and a dev daily posts = price jumps again with 180 % ( in economics everything is in cycles,its an accurate science because this is the way of money,it shouldn't be 180% it should be more fora second cycle but whatever will do math with the same percentage) than you will have18,21 euro thats a lot of profit for an email  and with little steps from us we are getting nearer Phase II. Imagine what will happen then !?! And another thing andi am saying this from all my heart: DEV please man please ( i am using this word very very rare ) make a statement,say something different,show us some pictures with the phase II working progress,it is difficult for miners to mine at the multipool and cover their utility bills,i am willing to make a raising fund and for you i know it is not easy. Listening to the community needs is the best quality of a DEV besides coding,thanks again for the efforts we are with you GO SUPER COIN DEV GO !!!!!!!!!!!! Yea, I don't mean to give you a hard time. But my only other reservation with pre-promoting is this: you exhaust your leads. Example. 50 of us email CoinDesk and ask them to do a feature on SUPER. They check it out now and say to themselves - "why?" the coin is not worth the attention yet. . . 2 weeks later after phase 2 comes out, all 50 of us again email CoinDesk's editor. This time, he discards our emails because he's already checked out the coin and said no. . . Just a thought, you go though, I'm with you. |
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Another scam?   Don't think it's a scam, its just not going that smooth Quite funny devs saying community should do this, should do that, this coin was completely price manipulated when ANON was released, so something smells bad here... Exactly what annoys me at this point, how can they say what community has to do when in fact nobody has any clue what dev's are doing. If it were me, I'd also be quiet. Consider that if they let out too much someone could steal the idea and launch before they do. Also, if I were developing something entirely new, I'd be reluctant to make claims about when and how it will be done. Thats the nature of something unknown, you claim to know it and everyone can see that you're a liar. Also, the way these threads can go, keeping up with it can be a lot of work. They may not be here purely out of inconvenience. Also consider that they don't need to pander to us. If they are going to deliver with what they say they will, people of far more significance than you and I are going to take notice and jump on. IF phase 2 happens, they'll get rich with or without us. |
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For those of us with the long term outlook on phase 2, we don't actually need to invest very much. If they deliver, a $50 investment today will be worth a small fortune soon enough. But trying to turn $50 into $60 is something completely different and shouldn't be anyone's focus who is actually trying to market this coin or support the politics behind anonymous/decentralized money.
You're forgetting a coin needs short term investors to survive on the long term. Yes this coin is appealing long term, but for short term not at all. I've pitched ideas, but the dev doesn't seem to want to cooperate. Maybe he does but he doesn't say anything worth mentioning at all. On top of that nobody has any clue what he's actually doing at this point How do you figure? So there are no short term investors. Coin keeps working, people keep staking/mining. 2 months later they come out with the update, if they haven't been beaten to the punch by someone faster, the coin price will soar and the community will grow large very fast. I think some people here are underestimating the significance of this update should it ever come. Its not an attempt to rescue the coin, it IS the coin. We are trading the promise of something that doesn't yet exist. |
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For those of us with the long term outlook on phase 2, we don't actually need to invest very much. If they deliver, a $50 investment today will be worth a small fortune soon enough. But trying to turn $50 into $60 is something completely different and shouldn't be anyone's focus who is actually trying to market this coin or support the politics behind anonymous/decentralized money.
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My point is that before phase 2, there is nothing here that's any different than a roll of the dice. Yes you can make money on dice, absolutely, but no one should be making that the effort here. It just cheapens it. The potential for real value from innovation is at hand. Whether or not the price goes up or down before that happens should only be relevant to investors (with more opportunity to buy) and dice players looking for a quick profit from bubbles. If we all believe in this coin and the coming phase 2, we should actually be cheering the low price as it gives more opportunity to invest. I don't want to see the price rise pre-phase 2. I'm hoping it goes down more so I can afford to buy a little more.
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Sure coins rise on promotion, no argument here whatsoever.
But SUPER and MAMM are different equations for now. They are incomplete. You can't properly promote something that isn't finished, especially when finishing is uncertain.
The existing features are comparable to other coins in its price range, its not undervalued at all for what it is here and now.
Consider this:
Lets say you spend great time and money promoting this coin. The price goes up on your efforts (people listen to you and buy coins). Then what? If phase 2 fails you've just misled all those people on false promises. If the devs turn out to be liars or incompetent there is NO future here whatsoever, it'll be worth nothing in no time. Everyone you convinced to buy loses everything. If the devs do what they've laid out, the coin will soar to incredible heights with or without pre-phase 2 marketing....So look at it this way. 1)you convince a lot of people to lose money 2)you waste effort on something that was pointless.
That said, I'm happy to vote for Cryptobull. I just want to express my opinion that our marketing efforts should be on what we plan to do when phase 2 comes out, not what we do now. No one should be expecting to make any money here before phase 2 happens, if they do, its on a false pump/bubble.
I own about 2000 SUPER and 50000 MAMM.
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Btw thw OP could use an update too + a roadmap with dates and times would attract more people and potential investors
Investors won't come until after phase 2. Unless they are like us and taking a gamble. There is nothing here to invest in yet besides speculation. A roadmap would also be fake and I'd rather not see it. You can't have deadlines for the creation of something entirely new. No one can know for sure how long it would take. I'd rather they work on the code than lie to me about when it will be done. |
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From my point if view, CryptoBull might be a good option to focus on the community lead. Good spirit, quality, openminded posts and good activity. What do you think CryptoBull & Community  I also agree, he is good chap, and very positive about Supercoin. So he must take this position and lead the communities. If you can take the load off from me even little, we can spend more time on phase 2. Hi there SuperTeam I can try to do some job but i think that the community must decide who and what and etc I want to see on my iphone while on work or laptop at home the following text ....... PHASE II COMPLETED this will surely be one of the best birthday presents ever Everyone want to read these 3 words, that Phase 2 completed. We all waitng eagerly for this, but it's not easy so we must give enough time to developer. I think we're on the way to release. It's 1 month that I heard about phase2,so it's not acceptable to wait another month. There's no dev outthere that announce a phase writing weeks and then release 2 months later. They say weeks not months. So 4 weeks have already passing by. Next update we will know the date. For sure. They can't write again "next weeks". So they come back today and tell us "weeks to go" haha, what then? They certainly can write that, and if they do, nothing changes at all. Everyone is so concerned with the current price, but its completely irrelevant. Buy enough that if phase 2 happens you make some serious money, sit and wait to see if you've made the right move or lost it all. Unlike many other coins, there is no marketing urgency at this point for MAMM and SUPER. Devs fail, coins are dead and any work you did today marketing goes down the toilet. Devs succeed, everyone makes crazy $$$. Its actually pretty simple and not worth all the stress you're giving yourselves. I don't want to see a roadmap because I'm realistic and would know it was just pandering. You can't have a roadmap for uncharted territory. I'd rather they work on the code than sell me a bunch of lies. These coins don't need investors, they don't need the price to go up today from fake positive news. None of that would effect the success or failure of the coin in the least. All that matters is the new phase and whether or not its coming....After phase 2 is implemented, then, sure there is a massive push for marketing and such. But at this point the product does not exist, there is nothing valuable here to go out and promote. |
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The only exception was SYNCOIN. It was 0.4btc each, after whitepapre with detail future development and a little pump today it reach 1.3BTC each. Yes, 1.3btc each.
That's why i really think that a fully detail roadmap with DATES will help every altcoin to catch investor.
I will study this and make a new much better road map with DATES soon. We made ten times better crypto than they did. i can't believe this is real. Dev, if we put hype, marketing, and large community aside.. what even Darkcoin has better than Supercoin? Those mentioned alts in posts above have nothing better. I don't want to offend any Altcoin supporter, nor any Darkcoin supporter,it's great coin,I also own some, it's very very good.. but, what? I really don't see its advantages against Supercoin. I'm not overestimating SUPER and NOT undervaluing Darkcoin... This is clearly an evolution in Crypto story, definitely and it must take his place between best coins in the world. It deserves it. P.S. If everyone wants roadmap - give them roadmap Cheers Meh, roadmap, videos, marketing. Somebody said it earlier, nothing is really important here except the devs and phase 2. They do it. Coin price will go way up, it IS a big innovation. They don't do it price will only ever go down from here. We can all help out, and there is value in that for the coin, but everything is hinging on phase 2. And its not a last ditch save the coin effort as was also earlier suggested. Its a big deal. |
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need promotion in Canada and China the biggest investors are there, so we need native chinese and canadian to promote there I'm from Canada and I brought some investors. I have over 10 000 SUPER and my friends too. I am promoting SuperCoin on the official facebook page of Bitcoin Canada (that I am running). That's what I can do for now, if you have any suggestion I'm open minded. I am close friends with some people working at www.canadianbitcoins.com, Bitcoin/Litecoin exchange in Ottawa. I can talk to them about implementing SuperCoin but there has to be stronger volume. P.s. For the promoting video, it's maybe better to use a more modern logo. I have made this but I can still try something tonight.  Excellent. I like your site and have know it for some time. I'm from Toronto. My thoughts on the logos. I like that yours hints to industry and looks pretty corporate, but I like the 3d and graphics of the old logo. I'm easy, I don't think the old one is bad - whatever people want. But speak up everyone, lets hear your thoughts. Its way way easier for me to make changes at this stage than later on. . .anybody have thoughts on the script also? Are the claims too bold? I say it because I believe it, they pull this off and Super/Mammoth are everything that bitcoin was supposed to be: decentralized AND anonymous. Remember how Aurora soared at the prospect of wide adoption and hence decentralization. Remember how Dark and imitators have soared on the promise of anonymity. These are the 2 characteristics (besides marketing) that make a coin happen and they've never been done together successfully. |
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I think when you cames out with a detail roadmap price will rise a lot.
Like: July 30 we will make this
Agoust 05 we will make this
Agoust 10 we will release phase 2
or stuff like that.
And after that investors are involved in buy supercoin. Cause if they look now supercoin they just see a completly non-stable coin with price slowly going down and non certain future development"
Why investor have to choose super? You can't only say that this coin is unique and it will rise only when pase 2 will be release.
All coin are unique if you look in theyr thread,and all coin got future development promising price rise.
But if i have to talk with an investor, i need to show him a details whitepaper like:
THIS IS SUPERCOIN and blablabla
ON THIS DATE WE WILL RELEASE A UNIQUE FEATURE IN CRYPTOWORLD
INVEST NOW
What i see here so far in this thread, is a lot of supercoin supporter who don't buy at this cheap price, and a lot of user who slowly sell theyr supercoin without write in this thread.
I mean,you could consider me as a fudder, but i see many silent sell order.
Anyway my question is:
Is there a richlist link?
I just wanna check where all this supercoin selling came from.
I'm new here and I'm knowingly risking my time and effort. I heard about it in a trollbox. When I saw what their phase 2 was, I decided to jump on board. But all of us are purely speculators, including the devs themselves. This hasn't been done, full anonymous and decentralized doesn't exist. . . so no one can have a timeline or any reasonable expectations. The only thing I know for sure is that IF they deliver with what they've said they can do - this will be really big. I'm gambling on that IF, pure and simple. |
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I am here:
SUPER: SZBAk9zQwghtbJQPUNdiG6d8qdk5dzTQEg
MAMM: MWuGSjBjnvd6iZs3UPQf5ftu3BZbSFJDju
Please donate to this project, we can have a good professional looking video. You can also edit the text or make some contributions to the text.
Donated... (also edited). Comment: on the YouTube channel, it would be best to use the Logo that is in the OP. Thanks very much! I don't run the youtube channel though, just making a video. I agree though keeping the logo consistent everywhere is important. |
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This is what MAMM really needs the most: colaboration and communication between dev and the community. That will make the coin stronger and more noticeable for the investors.
Mammoth is a great coin and deserves more attention. Development progress had always been good with delivered and proven results but, imo, there's still a lot to do regarding the project organization and the social/community dynamics.
Looking forward to see what remistevens will do with the MAMM video. I'm sure it will be a very useful marketing resource for us.
The giveaway, as magpr suggested, and any other promotional inniciatives are also precious to get some more focus over MAMM. We are still very closed inside our own shell.
In the last few days the silence was broken, construtive ideas and oppinions were posted in the thread, fud and useless stuff were kept out of it, and dev is present and open to given suggestions. These simple things will have impact on the markets and will be pushing MAMM up.
So guys, lets keep it up!
Give aways should always be done in a way where something valuable is created for the community. Some suggestions: MAMM for liking the facebook page, MAMM for mentioning Mammoth on a popular forum (show your proof with link), MAMM for sending an email request to a business or media outlet (can also be proven by a cc to a couple organizer email addresses). The email requests could be to do a story on Mammoth, or approaching Silk Road type underground businesses to consider adding it. . . .Can also reward messages here in this thread. First 5 people who suggest a feature they'd like to see added get 100 MAMM - that sort of thing. Sorry, I know I'm still pretty new here, do you have a foundation yet? Decentralization for the code is important, but centralization for the organization backing a coin is also important. I'm not tech smart enough to program, but I know there are ways to create wallets that require authorization from several people to spend. To keep the foundation's coins secure by trusting a core group to look after it. Also, a couple quick suggestions for the first page of this thread. Try and do a few more of the links graphically if you can - looks a little cleaner. For example, the social web part could have the logos: twitter, facebook and reddit instead of plain text links. Also the different languages could be represented with flags. That sort of thing, just an idea. |
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