I agree with you 100%. If something is unsafe i absolutely would not want it created. Hadn't heard about that UNO problem, great example. So only someone skilled and publicly proven is possible for us then in my opinion, which means a big investment for sure. But it would pay off for us if we could find someone who could assist (with JohnJoule's approval of course).

JohnJoule doesn't list a donation address anywhere, doesn't seem to want donations. I assume he probably holds a lot of XJO already and doesn't need donations (just me guessing). I'm thinking too that he must be quite intelligent to have launched a coin in 2013 that had an innovation like transaction comments. So he's probably very wealthy these days, may support multiple coins and could be hard to incentive for more wallets.

But JohnJoule if you ever would like to accept donations, I'd be happy to donate! Thanks for all the great work you've done launching and maintaining Joulecoin.

I agree and would contribute to this.

How difficult is it to create mobile wallets for cryptos? Joule could benefit greatly from some mobile wallets i think- especially considering this coin has comments built in.

Could a mobile app designer do it? Like someone who does not have crypto dev skills? Or would mobile wallet design need a crypto skilled dev? (Which would be a lot more expensive of course)

My thoughts here are that with Crypto going mainstream we could find junior devs with skills outside crypto who want to get involved in the new industry. As stakeholders in Joule they'd grow their skills as they support the coin...

Thanks for the comments on design too guys, glad you like it. Happy New Year!

Do the transactions write to the blockchain, are they permanently recorded? If so could that be used for publishing/proving ownership of text?

Its a bit like the memo section on a check. If i paid my landlord in XJO, I could write "January Rent" into the transaction to prove what it was.

But really, the tech extras of this or any coin don't matter so much for now. Cryptos are stores of value and XJO ...It's dirt cheap and well maintained (decent mining profit, original dev support) in a time when other coins of its era are worth Billions like LTC, DOGE....or hundreds of millions like VTC or FTC or other old coins that at one point were worth very little. So much potential here.

Hi. Just a heads up, I've been working with a designer to redo the XJO website. I messaged with JohnJoule a couple months back with our rough ideas. He said he would be on board with the changes. The designer i'm working with is a pro who has done many high level corporate and institutional websites.....The hold up is with me and I apologize, I need to help the designer fill out some content and i've just been too busy to get around to it.

Anyways, just wanted to make sure everyone knows we're working on it so all efforts are put into the same basket. UFO1000, IMZ, anyone else around here if you want to have a look at the whole rough site please message me. I just don't want to post the whole thing here yet as its on a personal server and its very incomplete so i think it might be counterproductive to put it on this public forum yet.

Here is the top of the site with new logo and design. Love to hear thoughts from the community!




If its not showing up for you on Bitcointalk, image link is here: https://imgur.com/a/jYajh


We were thinking a lightning bolt would make a great symbol for Joule. Its both electricity and an upward moving chart graph.....Also, been through all 1300 crypto logos. There are a couple lightning bolts in there as logos, but i can't find one that looks anywhere near as good as the one my designer colleague came up with.

Thank you. I have been able to use this bkchain for both versions, what i can't do is get either version to find any active connections....

This is unfortunate to hear. I've never had anything but a positive experience trading on Live and been using it for a long time now. Their platform is top notch as far as i'm concerned. I hope they keep FST listed both because its good for this coin, but also because i like using their exchange.

I will send a positive message to them for sure.

I wonder if they would be willing to list if people offered to pay a one time fee? People could offer independently, we have no time to build a foundation. As a last resort of course, but we are close to the wire and i do know they previously had a policy where you could pay for listing. Might be smart for FST holders to consider messaging live with offers.

OK so how does one get a wallet to sync please? I've tried 10.2 and 8.7, neither version finds a single connection after hours of waiting. Thanks for any help!

-also tried adding the blockchain myself as downloaded from the internet, no help. Strangely tho, 8.7 is listed on website as the core wallet, but the boot strap file is for 10.2.2??

Awesome. Thanks Ghostlander!

Thanks! Yes its fun (and profitable) to try and find which of the new coins will survive the test of time like these old favourites.

Sorry, Im terrible with handling data.  I will be taking all this info and getting a web designer to help me. Eventually there will be a nice site, links to markets, links to ANNs, full coin names, sort function, ranking numbers....it's gonna be great, but sorry will take a bit of time. Probably have it up and running in January.

Cool thanks for the links and info. Its a tough one right since exchanges didn't really exist yet when it would have become an active network. Even the notion of public vs private, its not private simply because no one at that time yet knows or cares what a crypto is. No doubt it looks like it wasn't active traded by feb 2013, but wouldn't be fair i don't think to add it as post feb 2013. It was definitely at least an active network and someone somewhere surely bought some of it from someone else. I think maybe i'll just leave it as ???2012. Thoughts? More info anyone?

Interesting, thanks for the links. This one counts too. 2013 and earlier included for bounty, sorry didn't anticipate mistakes earlier than 2013! . .  Ripple is tough cause its very centralized and i have no idea how they actually launched. Looking at some of these threads its hard to tell if they're talking about what they want Ripple to be, or what it already is...I think it was probably a private network at first that they eventually put up public- but entirely a guess.

How about this.

If someone can nail down proof of the date Ripple was first listed on an exchange and traded publicly. I'll qualify that for a double bounty- $40.

Of course I missed Ripple. Probably subconscious cause i don't like it. Too centralized, too corporate. BUT, it was super early in the crypto timeline.

Can anyone verify the date XRP actually launched? I can't find it. Same bounty applies. For now listed just as 2012. Thanks!

Great! Thanks again

Thank you very much for continuing to look, but sorry FFC does not qualify. Rule #2 The coin must show a market cap. FFC's market cap is listed as "?".....The purpose of the list is for investment in digital scarcity- this is what drives Bitcoin's value. A coin that has no market cap has no verifiable supply and therefor does not have scarcity. A coin with no cap may also indicate that it is broken, likewise not something i want on the list.

I'm not saying FFC isn't a good coin, it may have verifiable supply and works fine. But again for simplicity i revert to coinmarketcap to determine legitimacy of any coin.

Still could make some good money. Communicating alone adds value. I think the coin is mostly held now by people who bought when it was worthless after the scam launch- there was tons available as it was dumped. Then when it regained some price, those people sold for profit to recoup initial investment. So at this point coin is mostly held by people who don't need to make any money from it, and have no incentive to sell cause its worthless again anyways.

MAR DEV is it possible you need more coins to make this worth your while? Holding out quietly as you try to buy more? Unfortunately I don't think there will be much luck in that. The coin is too worthless for anyone with a good chunk to bother selling. If so I would love to help and make sure you're well invested, im sure others would donate as well....But I said this months ago and i 'll say it again, it's hard to make a donation to an anonymous dev who hasn't proven any commitment to the coin yet. Throwing money at an anonymous person, with no history, and who has no obligation is stupid. No one is going to do that.

We're your allies man, let us know what's going on so we can help.

Great! Thanks!....I'm in no rush. And please understand I'm not fast either, sometimes i don't log in for long times....But i will always catch up all bounties i owe ppl and update this list... I want to make this the best list we can make it!

So sorry. My mistake. Sent now. Thanks again!

So sorry. I'm an idiot, never actually sent any of the bounties! Thought that i had, just a mistake. Should be caught up now- i sent to your BTC address.