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Ik hoop van harte met je mee.
Maar toen bitcoin de laatste keer boven de 1000 USD kwam was dit volgens mij grotendeels te danken aan de invloed van Mt. Gox. Op dat moment was het dus meer een "gemaakte" prijs in plaats van een realistische. Mocht nu door normale marktwerking de prijs van bitcoin boven de 1000 USD komen dan zou ik daar erg blij mee zijn, maar volgens mij zitten we daar nog wel een heel eind vandaan momenteel. En voor de rest is het voor mij ook maar koffiedik kijken, want ik heb niet voldoende kennis van de markt.
Daar bovenop is het natuurlijk niet allemaal markt gerelateerd en puur objectieve en feitelijk eomstandigheden, emoties spelen ook een zeeeeeeeeer grote rol |
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Hey man, what are the shipping costs to the EU, Nethelrands in particular, now? What product are u looking to get? If u have a zip code I can use, I can look up shipping for u. 2908 BC 80, let me know please Our shipping rates are still the same. With that said though smaller products have cheaper rates. What product were u looking at? I want multiple units, part scrypt part sha256. I'll keep an eye on it, shipping rates from the usa can be extreme |
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And you haven't taken into consideration the hidden fees. What I hate about banks is that they will hide behind their Terms and Conditions and I bet most individuals, an average daily user like myself didn't even notice that the fees existed. And you haven't consider the fact that there are millions of users using their services each day and the small amount will really pile up.
If it was a small amount, I wouldn't be complaining, but on a transaction of 100 euro, 32 euro's fee's, what the fuck!? Mafia..... It's ridiculous and a scam. It's clear now that the banksters have been charging over exaggerated fees with the excuse of "running a bank is expensive, we need to charge customers to keep things working". Well, guess what, now we have BTC, no more excuses left for them. It's game over. If only it was that simple, but the reality is that much of our infrastructure isn't build for bitcoin/blockchain YET!! What infrastructure? The infrastructure is already built (the internet). All we need is keep improving the software, making it more accessible, and make it spread around the world. If anything, the infrastructure is simply nodes. Read what has been wroten in the thread, people in developing countries dont have acces to tech, they only have (oldschool) phones and banks, so no not evrywhere is the infrastructure... |
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And you haven't taken into consideration the hidden fees. What I hate about banks is that they will hide behind their Terms and Conditions and I bet most individuals, an average daily user like myself didn't even notice that the fees existed. And you haven't consider the fact that there are millions of users using their services each day and the small amount will really pile up.
If it was a small amount, I wouldn't be complaining, but on a transaction of 100 euro, 32 euro's fee's, what the fuck!? Mafia..... It's ridiculous and a scam. It's clear now that the banksters have been charging over exaggerated fees with the excuse of "running a bank is expensive, we need to charge customers to keep things working". Well, guess what, now we have BTC, no more excuses left for them. It's game over. If only it was that simple, but the reality is that much of our infrastructure isn't build for bitcoin/blockchain YET!! |
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Anonymous Visa cards with bank accounts linked occasionally turn up in the goods section here. No idea how they work. BTC-e can send money to a Visa card but the fees are enormous.
I have them, but I don't trust the Polish bank. If you check on internet, lots of funds have dsappeared, and how I'm I going to get my money then I need a service like Bit-x, with a higher limit. 5000 to 10000 would be do-able. |
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You don't use it, simple. You "boycott" their services and promote something that goes directly against it...(Bitcoin  ) To add to this, any type of service, whether it be PayPal or Western Union, has extreme fees sending international payments. Between conversion fees with currencies and cuts the service takes, you're looking at a major cut in all outgoing transactions. Nothing compared to the miners fee, though. You state it so simple, but the reality is that a fraction of the population has acces to equipment capable of Bitcoin mining or transfers. Most people in Thailand don't even have a computer, so your option isnt a option my friend, not everybody can accept, trade and exchange Bitcoin.... Still a long way to go Boycotting is simply not allways a option... Not necessarily Bitcoin mining, but just accepting Bitcoin. You can accept Bitcoin from a mobile phone if needed. The point I'm making is no one is forcing you to use the services of PayPal, WU, ect. If you don't like the fees, don't use it, and use Bitcoin instead. If you don't have a computer or mobile phone, fees should not be your worry. I a state like that I doubt the person would be sending and receiving transactions (internationally) frequently enough for fees to even make a notable difference. As far as the whole boycotting goes, I didn't mean this in a literal sense as you should go and "protest" or something along those lines. PayPal and WU are huge companies to where they don't need the business of the OP to make any difference to them. In a bigger picture though, sometime in the future when public acceptance of Bitcoin exists, these companies will have a rough time competing therefore they'll be forced to adjust fees and such. I understand what you mean, and you're right for the most part. My point is that not everyone can use this, due to knowhow or lack of resources. I never use Paypal, banks, or Creditcards unless I really have to, and the problem is, I HAVE TO use them so ridiculously much to get anything done abroad.... |
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Mede Bitcoiners, Ik ben op zoek naar iemand die bitcoins in persoon wil kopen, gewoon een publieke plaats met veel mensen Dit kan eenmalig, maar het liefst regelmatig zijn. Bedragen zullen schommelen tussen de 200 en 1500 euro. Er zit natuurlijk ook een voordeel aan voor jou, jij krijgt de prijs die ik anders bij welke willekeurige exchange (Bitonic/Bitfinex) zou krijgen, waardoor jij Bitcoins voor een lagere prijs in kunt kopen dan normaal. Normaal was er altijd wel animo via localbitcoins, maar dat is aardig opgedroogd lijkt het wel Stuur me een berichtje, kunnen we een x afspreken, eventueel met escrow |
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As far as I know there is no way to withdraw bitcoins anonymously, there are aways to withdraw bitcoin with certain levels of anonymity. Meeting with a person IRL to do a btc->cash transaction is the most anonymous way, even tho its not 100% anonymous since there are cameras, and the person you are selling/buying from will see you. It's still AFAIK the most anonymous ways.
All online ways are less anonymous than this.
Certainly true, but people are not in the mood to buy or something, absolutely no reaction through the forum or localbitcoin. NOrmally there would be 2/3 reactions a week, now nothing |
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Ik zou op de fiets kunnen springen. Maar ik denk dat ik de Ant beter per metro kan vervoeren, dus ik hoop dat je een beetje in de buurt van het metrostation woont. Zal waarschijnlijk wel dit weekend worden voordat ik tijd heb, maar als je via PM je adres kan laten weten dan handelen we het via daar wel verder af Zou jij dan een kleine aanbetaling via PsychoticBoy willen doen? Heb op dit moment meerdere biedingen, rond de 100 euro via marktplaats. Gun hem aan jou, maar dan moet je hem wel zeker ophalen Verkocht aan Jansen227, tot zaterdag! |
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The difference transcends race. Hook-nosed blacks are generally pieces of shit, while blacks with streamlined profiles and upward-turned noses are typically great (although still black).
Allthough still black, really, being black is something negative in your eyes, you're a very racist individual, I feel sorry for your narrow views... Most of my friends are black. I do, however, recognize the differences between whites and blacks. If that makes me a racist, then fine. In the time of backward america destroying everything on the continent, including wildlife and indeginous people, alot of scientist tried to proof that blacks differ from whites, they have found NOTHING, eventhough they were biased from the start to find something, they couldn't... The differences between blacks and whites is color, nothing more, nothing less.... The enviromental situation makes more difference... Are you retarded? You clearly are, deniying facts and history, sad sad... |
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Ik zou op de fiets kunnen springen. Maar ik denk dat ik de Ant beter per metro kan vervoeren, dus ik hoop dat je een beetje in de buurt van het metrostation woont. Zal waarschijnlijk wel dit weekend worden voordat ik tijd heb, maar als je via PM je adres kan laten weten dan handelen we het via daar wel verder af Zou jij dan een kleine aanbetaling via PsychoticBoy willen doen? Heb op dit moment meerdere biedingen, rond de 100 euro via marktplaats. Gun hem aan jou, maar dan moet je hem wel zeker ophalen |
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(Co-founder of Bitonic here.)
This is not unusual for Dutch banks, ING in particular. Although we as a company have good relations with them (as a long term customer), transactions to/from bitcoin are still considered high risk by them.
Automated systems still sometimes block transactions to us, contacting your bank (ING mostly contacts you, other Dutch banks mostly don't) and asking them to deblock almost always works.
If you keep experiencing problems, please contact us so we can address these issues with the bank directly.
With rabobank I never had any troubles purchasing at bitonic.. (maybe at the end of November 2013 it was a bit difficult). Thanks for providing this great service! Buying bitcoin was never easier I have ING, never any problems before. Allways on time, even faster then most of my friends who uses different banks |
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You don't use it, simple. You "boycott" their services and promote something that goes directly against it...(Bitcoin ) To add to this, any type of service, whether it be PayPal or Western Union, has extreme fees sending international payments. Between conversion fees with currencies and cuts the service takes, you're looking at a major cut in all outgoing transactions. Nothing compared to the miners fee, though. You state it so simple, but the reality is that a fraction of the population has acces to equipment capable of Bitcoin mining or transfers. Most people in Thailand don't even have a computer, so your option isnt a option my friend, not everybody can accept, trade and exchange Bitcoin.... Still a long way to go Boycotting is simply not allways a option... |
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I was wondering if anyone knew a company or services which provides debit cards anonymously with a reasonable limit. For example, Bit-x provides debit cards, yet if ou want to use it anonymous you can only withdraw 250 dollars per year!! I'm looking for a service like Bit-x, only with a higher limit for anonymous users, anyone can point me in the right direction?
I'm not going to register, because then I can just use any service provider like Bitfinex or Bitonic, my motivation is that I wish to withdraw bitcoins anonymously.
Anyone know such a service provider?
I could be wrong on this. You might check but I think the limit is for unverified. If you verify I think it goes up. But yes you lose anonymous with verifying. But you are not really anonymous with card being sent you through the mail. That depends on how you manage this, believe me, I will be anonymous The problem I see if you no matter what have to get it send somewhere you have access to. It's hard not to be known with this. Why does the debit card need to be so anonymous for you? Because not one single agency has to know that I sell or use bitcoin, thats why |
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Hey man, what are the shipping costs to the EU, Nethelrands in particular, now? What product are u looking to get? If u have a zip code I can use, I can look up shipping for u. 2908 BC 80, let me know please |
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I was wondering if anyone knew a company or services which provides debit cards anonymously with a reasonable limit. For example, Bit-x provides debit cards, yet if ou want to use it anonymous you can only withdraw 250 dollars per year!! I'm looking for a service like Bit-x, only with a higher limit for anonymous users, anyone can point me in the right direction?
I'm not going to register, because then I can just use any service provider like Bitfinex or Bitonic, my motivation is that I wish to withdraw bitcoins anonymously.
Anyone know such a service provider?
I could be wrong on this. You might check but I think the limit is for unverified. If you verify I think it goes up. But yes you lose anonymous with verifying. But you are not really anonymous with card being sent you through the mail. That depends on how you manage this, believe me, I will be anonymous |
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Ik zou nog een klein beetje bovenop mijn vorige bod kunnen doen: 0.42
Daar kan je de ant voor ophalen hoor, laat maar weten wat makkelijk is, ik woon in Capelle aan de IJssel. |
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what do you by not registrer , you have to make an account on any website to get their card . that's for sure ... I'am not sure how you are annonymus with Bit-x.com while you provide your name , family name & adress to get the card . Anyway .. there is this Advcash which I tested but I didn't ask for the Plastic card , I just asked for the Virtual card . Bitcointalk topic : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1011381.0Official website : http://advcash.com/en/Fees :  You can use any name you'd like if you chose the 250 dollar a year option, yet it's not enough, I also have a VISA with that polish bank, but I don' trust it enough for high amounts My polish isnt that good |
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I was wondering if anyone knew a company or services which provides debit cards anonymously with a reasonable limit. For example, Bit-x provides debit cards, yet if ou want to use it anonymous you can only withdraw 250 dollars per year!! I'm looking for a service like Bit-x, only with a higher limit for anonymous users, anyone can point me in the right direction?
I'm not going to register, because then I can just use any service provider like Bitfinex or Bitonic, my motivation is that I wish to withdraw bitcoins anonymously.
Anyone know such a service provider?
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