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1681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | WSJ | BlackHalo on: August 08, 2014, 07:50:17 AM

And at end BC bag don’t hurt me so much as Doge or some bittrex shitcoins…

Doge? Anyone actually expect that coin to go up?
http://www.reddit.com/r/dogetard/ -they spot all time those people.
But such people can make their coin big.
If want do something impossible let do it people who don't know that is impossible and they will do it...
(It works from my experience in job...)

But to be honest soon doge will be 5% inflation coin so will be like POS.
And add to fact that Doge have more active wallets than ( XC +VRC+ RDD + PPC + BC + Quark + LTC + FTC )
http://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/activeaddresses-ltc-doge-xc-bc-rdd-qrk-zet-ftc.html
- true coin indicator more than LTC with 10x more market cap... ( yea "Doge is dead" just give it time )

- so be smart when you troll Doge - hyper inflation is killing their price but not coin and distribution ( 170 000 + addresses with Doge )
those guys are active and are working around price is not value just wait till inflation part will be over.


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I like BC because it different coin it was 1st POS from POW part that is why i like it so much.
BC started different economy model.


1682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AИN] NODE - Official Discussion Thread! Distributing the coins! on: August 08, 2014, 06:37:47 AM
NxT hasn't it even recovered to the $80-$110 million capitalization it had in early 2014 and you think it will hit $1.  

This was purely due to BTC price that were close to $1,000 back then. There have been a lot of swings. LTC was over 1 billion dollars market cap 6 months ago ($40  per LTC once) . It's down to 200 to 300 million. Peercoin was #3 for a long time (as high as $7 pre PPC), it's slowly on the down trend.  Nxt still has the best chance to make it top -- better than anyone else. Lets see how Node does, but it's no threat to Nxt -- not even close.


LINE. USD PRICE - SO MARKET CAP TOO
June 7  : ) - Pure PnD example of coin.(all crypto are same in that matter )

PS:That is why i wait Node to see if that will change. Price movements won't probably but in volume is more interesting factor.

1683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AИN] NODE - Official Discussion Thread! Distributing the coins! on: August 08, 2014, 06:29:51 AM
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Yes i agree to some level. node is a totally different coin to nxt so the devs say. (we havnt seen any code yet). but nxts distribution was one of the best imo. You cant have fair distro its a myth. and were already seeing downsides of distributing to 1000's of user instead of less than 100.
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But wait only 25% of whole NXT was distributed in IPO to  72 people...
Who got rest of 75% ? ( i think main devs ) correct me if i am wrong with some links please.


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Best IPO/Minig distribution for me had Bitshares 200 days 5000 for BTC day / 5000 for mining (PTS) .

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I personal like BC and BC Volume is about 50k today while NXT as 60k and market cap 8x higher
PPC with 1/2 NXT market cap have 2x NXT volume 100k...
this is red flag for me and prof of fail distribution.

That is why i wait Node and NEM to compare it - before they are full operational is really hard to compare we just speculate.

Node with Bank + instant transaction is that what i wanted see as coin feature for ages.
1684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | WSJ | BlackHalo on: August 08, 2014, 06:02:22 AM
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you got it. you now understand what the altmarket is about. there's really not more behind it
happy hodling

Whales only moves coins + 50% a day or real impact news.
But the same is with BTC and because of BIG BTC price is harder to PnD +- 50%.
Price can be moved by people only when we are actively using BC but to be fair to be able
Active using BC (by my mother BC needs 2-5 years)
( halo + ligtwallet + mobile wallet + easy convert fiat and ATMs BC )

There is also new generation of people who will born in world when Bitcoins and alts will have value
Some changes needs time - PnD play favor only whales and greed people but behind all are great tools…
Halo - You can hire IT guy from Africa and live in EU. ( deal is almost instant ).
You won’t able to do it so efficient by regular bank system and low barriers halo but some technology solves that.
Lets say Ukraine and Russia are in war  -regular banking are paralyzed accounts frozen - crypto solves those problems too.

When you open mind there is GREAT potential in crypto currency.
And at end BC bag don’t hurt me so much as Doge or some bittrex shitcoins…
1685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AИN] NODE - Official Discussion Thread! Distributing the coins! on: August 07, 2014, 07:25:53 PM
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I have to agree. When looking through the membership of NODE, NEM, NAS, and several others, I notice that the majority appears to be held by NXT holders. I doubt they would even exist except for the support by people who primarily hold NXT.

I don't own any NXT because of fail distribution and fail volume at this market cap for me...

That is why i am in Node  and NEM i believe there is more people like me.
I just waited monet when such coin will appear to get some of them.
I believe that NXT is not ultimate solution just i want wait NODE and NEM get live and to see how will be.

volume / marketcap - parameter looks vs NXT

Then future of development since both of them are not NXT clones just competitors in POS field
probably many POS owners feel same as me that NXT distribution left some deficiency - this is very important factor.

Let those coins go live and then we can discuss about who s using and buying those coins.
 
1686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AИN] NODE - Official Discussion Thread! Distributing the coins! on: August 07, 2014, 12:02:18 PM
Yay, go my coins. Hopefully the software comes out tomorrow and we can approach an exchange. How about BTER? They love NXT and clones!

But this is not NXT clone is can take longer to add it.
1687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | WSJ | BlackHalo on: August 07, 2014, 10:10:01 AM
lol just wow
About what Cheesy ? Shakira ?
1688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Suggestions to prevent scammers launch new shitcoins on: August 07, 2014, 10:06:32 AM
in my opnion,i think most people they don't care about scame or not,they just care money,so let thoess people buy shitcoins!

If I may ask, haven't you lost any money because of scammer devs at all?

I lost money in pure scams too but i took some lesson.
Most of all fails is GREED just call it correctly...  - we have invested in most shitcoins because of greed...

After some time shit coin will have to die or try harder to live...
We will see how it will go over time.
Only time will shows winners but MANY coins till die over time.

About Big IPOs - Mastercoin was pumped to 90m market cap today is 3m...
Same can be with Etherum,Maidsafe,Bitshares...
There is no perfect solution just buy people smart and live with that coin can drop value over time.
1689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AИN] NODE - Official Discussion Thread! Distributing the coins! on: August 07, 2014, 09:24:08 AM
It cannot be a fork if it's written in Javascript (NxT being Java and Java =/= Javascript).  As well NODE seems to offer innovations not seen in other coins (which is outlined on the first post and on their website).

It's technically a bit too soon to dismiss this coin.  Stranger things have happened in crypto, NODE could surprise us all by hitting a capitalization beyond our expectations.


Wow today i understand that Node is not NXT code fork...
i was thinking that way because of NXTL name before was good that those guys changed name to NODE.
And good that it goes live WITH existing new features not like most coins last days...

Node bank + instant transactions is VERY GOOD beginning.

PS:Fork for me is clone version of existing coin with some improvements into protocol.
For me node is not fork like NEM too.
1690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | WSJ | BlackHalo on: August 06, 2014, 06:43:42 PM
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that have to be shaking news like Apple will accept only Blackcoin and invest 3min $ or Shakira will promote Blackcoin with tattoo on breast.
They you will get + 500% international pump haha...


YEA we have done it !!! Wink

1691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | WSJ | BlackHalo on: August 06, 2014, 05:26:50 PM
So many good news here but why the price keep falling like a rock ? I keep buying all the way down to 11k, just wondering whether it would go below 10k

For me 7-8k is base very low - quark lvl Quak it was once 35m$ and now is 3m....
Just look at PPC LTC Doge long therm then BC. - money are leaving alt crypto after HEAVY manipulation in December .
at the end all alt markets are based only at speculation mostly... that is why all is falling - altcoin are used ONLY for speculation today.
Later it will change later coin with light wallets fast services will be used rest will be forgotten.

Unfortunately, good news doesn't always translate to price increases.

that have to be shaking news like Apple will accept only Blackcoin and invest 3min $ or Shakira will promote Blackcoin with tattoo on breast.
They you will get + 500% international pump haha...
1692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | WSJ | BlackHalo on: August 06, 2014, 01:45:56 PM
So many good news here but why the price keep falling like a rock ? I keep buying all the way down to 11k, just wondering whether it would go below 10k

For me 7-8k is base very low - quark lvl Quak it was once 35m$ and now is 3m....
Just look at PPC LTC Doge long therm then BC. - money are leaving alt crypto after HEAVY manipulation in December .
at the end all alt markets are based only at speculation mostly... that is why all is falling - altcoin are used ONLY for speculation today.
Later it will change later coin with light wallets fast services will be used rest will be forgotten.
1693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | WSJ | BlackHalo on: August 06, 2014, 01:23:27 PM
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The only reason I see to sell at 12k is just so you can buy back at 10k, other than that I've no idea why people are selling now. I find it hard to believe that who is selling now is some old miners or persons who got in when BC was sub 5k: either they have already dumped a long time ago or they're still in for the moon.

Biggest problem of alts is survive 1st year and expand over time.
All coins are manipulated... more or less if you look at eg. PPC  price chart oldest POS/POW coin you can get some conclusion.
That no matter what at some point all alt will be lose value...
Just because today we don't have money in.

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We need to use BC and run heavily buck up projects which will:
-expand user base - Jabulon Video is good one example
-expand casual trading - Halo - NOOB friendly wallet - light wallet - (or client with  proof of balance only )
-services which will be used for BC...

We need real volume more than speculative volume...
without that any coin wont ride long "features" can be better 2x better 2x faster but BTC lives because REAL TRADERS
people buy sell with BTC (not to much anyway) ...

At end of day some kind road map would be good even we can build our won on BC forum.
We need goal and try to get it.
Features aren't goals in general next month some one can get in and have better feature.
Goal are like have active 1000+ BC users of some BC service or create real volume hmm 10 000$ a day on some BC service.

Today all is in mess so lets get together and let all write own road map for BC and realize it.

Leter i w ill create for all point you get some bc adresses and you will send eg. 0.01 BC as Vote to manage what ideas is most popular in BC community.
We can't relay too much on foundation - if you want change write road map now.
Later vote for path we can drive BC and we can see where we will go by doing like that.
Better is try to do something than do nothing we need organize ourselves somehow !
1694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [FBIT] FileBit + ANON + No Premine + Innovative EOA () on: August 06, 2014, 12:12:10 PM
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FileBit Source includes the zerocoin library for native zerocash protocol support.

But zercoin is not zerocash - zerocoin dev team have abandoned zerocoin project to create zerocash...

In general where i see zerocoin protocol and and someone will add it that cause red light i just smell scam from distance (XLB - zerocoin ext ) ...
2nd thing is that zerocoin and it implementation is build for POW coin at least ANC is close to run it but they work on it hmm 6 months...
How ever is all most year and Megacoin didn't implemented it so far...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240861.msg3095061#msg3095061 year ago and big buzz about zerocoin... so far nothing...

And you want connect Zerocoin + POS Cheesy that even harder task...
for me today it looks like XLB2.0 to be honest.

Good luck.


1695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | WSJ | BlackHalo on: August 05, 2014, 08:43:34 PM
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This coin was so overpriced for such long time. Good marketing they had. Such P.R. Some development but nothing spectacular.
They had nigerian scammer who dumped you even before other whales  Grin
...

To be fair - Have coins like LTC Doge PPC more features... ? - NO

BC was 1st coin which 1st turned of POW part successfully.
( all before BC all were saying that only POW/POS are secure and pure POS is insecure remember that... - Now many of them are quiet...)
anyway that was few thousand lines of code to change - for some people that is nothing for me not...

This is not BC fault that it was cloned 100+ more than Doge or LTC or PPC...

PS: All alts are in down trend look at BTC LTC PPC...
At the end you will understand that all coin were or will be manipulated in price.
When people are buying after +300% in week this is OBVIOUS manipulation...
No matter what coin name is... Once is LTC(53$) once is Doge(290sat) once was (BC 90 000sat )
But im sure one - you will never know if "next" month coin will be 10x higher...
BTC was once too 30$->2$...

Till BC have community and developers all is ok - rest will take some time that is all.

The reason why we not rising is simple - alt currencies have no new buyers.
1696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | WSJ | BlackHalo on: August 01, 2014, 04:01:35 PM
Titles of topic was changing over time:
Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO
Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Wear Shorts To Meetings | Split Community
Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | Price Dropping | Community Manager On Beach

THEN FROM 53 page TITLE IE had revelation and mind blow !!!!!
Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | LibertyCoin is the new Black
after fail he renamed title back to:
Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin Card aka CEX Cards | LibertyCoin Card Coming Soon

IE started own crypto career he recommended his followers coins: Minerals Voot Pesa XLB.... ( was it worth ? - hahaha )
- he allso claimed that Cloak dev is scamer ... like BC devs...
HE also theft 4500$...

At end i will put one here from bible ( this one is smart and universal truth)
Matthew 7:15-20
15 Beware of false prophets, which come James Vto you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
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20 Wherefore bnow them.y their fruits ye shall k


Let everyone think on his own who IE really is...


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Many idiots just cannot understand that are NORMAL alt market moments once you pump something it will drop...
Here is neutral article about such actions in alt coins.
http://altcoinnewsletter.com/pumps-dumps-and-manipulated-markets/
http://altcoinnewsletter.com/1/images/pic2.png
PS: i believe in long therm in BC so i will keep my BC - it need time.
1697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Multipool | Coinkite | WSJ | BlackHalo on: August 01, 2014, 02:00:57 PM
black box, eh? is it too soon to reuse the Leo meme?  Tongue

Leo? Hmm... I must have skipped over that part or perhaps have not gotten to it yet.

I'm currently attempting to read the entire previous forum thread from start to finish before it moved here. I'm on page 1407. It's starting get good. Real good.

It's the end of April and the snow is beginning to melt... and unfortunately so is the price of BC. The tail end of winter saw a surge in value but spring has arrived and brought with it an unexpected decline. Tension is building. The natives are getting restless. Relations between IE and the community are beginning to dissolve. Fingers are being pointed.

Man I can't wait to get home tonight.
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Later story of IE and his own thred here : ) he deleted a lot of entries.
SMALL SPOILER !!! PRICE IN USD same as today - hahaha.



With all the good news and exciting times ahead, this where we are at now. Instead of people discussing what really matters, that want to waste time posting BS to make them feel better inside.

Rest his story !

Pro trade TIPs: XLB Cheesy.... liberty day... DAMM so funny
Last IE pro tips ( Voot,Pessa )

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599351.980
1698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: August 01, 2014, 10:11:48 AM
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There won't never perfect solution but we can not let get ext. 20% of supply get into few people hands if it will be like that it
XCN will be treat as NXT Bytecoin and bad distribution is very hard to defend later IMO , it cause rise of clones even higher than original
(which is sad).
1699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: August 01, 2014, 09:55:06 AM
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People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.

1700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE WALL OF SHAME on: August 01, 2014, 07:40:14 AM
PRO...
...There are several (Vericoin, Solarcoin, others...) that simply CENSOR either their ANN threads here, or their IRC -this is widespread, unfortunately- or their Reddit. Once again: There's only one reason, in spite of all the FUD bullshit they post as an excuse, only one to have a so called "self-moderated" venue, whichever it is: To silence discrepancy. NONE OTHER.
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As Dagger from Cloack coin said:

"If you want to see for yourself the kind of posts that get deleted I think https://bitcointa.lk/ keeps a delayed log of everything.
Nothing to hide.
Just keeping thread clean rather than unfounded trash talk."

You can easy see what is deleted what not... Usually BS  talks is deleted... Before investing into coin with moderated tread is good to look https://bitcointa.lk and see what is deleted.
Most obvious scams like: EDGE WC AC USB they didn't have self moderated threads...


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