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881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 06, 2014, 11:02:14 AM

however by killing the ferrite beads the voltage/current seems to be increased for the chips.


heat is wasted power, at least for us, so you should be right.
882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 06, 2014, 10:12:53 AM
initial overclocking and modding

completed unit



with these heatsinks and at least a fan blowing on them or a cover to direct the flow of the stock fan, you could try 43k resistor too.
Higher than 43k, and it will stop sending shares after a few minutes or seconds on mine, even after extra cooling.

Thanks for your feedback on ferrite beads removal and direct soldering for less heat

Btw, where did you get the heatsinks from?
the bigger ones look like they were made for CPU.
The small blue ones are nice and I like blue.
883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 06, 2014, 10:06:22 AM
So these units are now on sale everywhere for about $1,100.. I'm wondering why.. something has got to be driving that cut..

I just heard the Blades are going for around $960 each and the pods are going for $65...
The new A2 is being sold for $12,000...
Man, what a racket!
It's like the olden days when I was Mr. cutting edge! Expensive game and right now, the way things are changing so fast, hardly profitable! Sheeeeiiiiittttt!

A2 is 12.5x the price of a blade for basically 13x the hashing power, so not that bad.
but in a month or so, the A2 will cost around 5000$ if not less.
the race has begun.
bye bye ROI.

I'm still curious if A2 can be hardware modded to 50% boost, but they are too pricey for now. I can't afford to pay one to play with it.

I'll stick with the zeusminer blizzard when it will hit 100$ in 1 or 2 weeks as my next project.

Too bad knc and innosilicon don't have entry level miners to test for cheap in the 150-200$ range.

For now, the blade was fun to mod, I'll keep working on my homemade powerboard, just as a proof of concept.
Without heavy changes to the powerboard, we will be limited around 7.3Mh/s, but the chips can provide 8Mh/s with 47k or 49.9k resistor on one blade and I want to reach it.

884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 05, 2014, 06:21:03 PM
Stock is 1,2V and Bridge does 1,3V ; both ±0.5V

CGminer voltage=1 works and sets 1.32V on mine



1HW error per minute on the first one looks high to me.

Can you check if by chance it is the top pcb that is giving more errors ?
Slight overheat of the chip on the upper board gives higher error count for me.
885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 04, 2014, 09:28:10 PM
Ok for now you have just replaced resistor 33k for which one?
Let us know when you changed mosfets.
you didn't put coolers on Q6 to Q8?

33k replaced with 43k

you can see small dissipators on top of Q6 Q7 Q8 on the upper right corner of the third picture.
plus larger ones on the back side of the pcb under the mosfets and choke
886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 04, 2014, 09:06:24 PM
as promised, some more pics

The blade in action with the prototype cover




cover removed




the cooling of the chips.




closer view of both pcb modded
I used the secondary location on one of the boards because my 0805 resistor was keeping shorting with the nearest empty pad.
still needs some cleaning of the pads on this one




on the second board, the resistor is just where the 0603 33K was




and in case you want to try the bridge voltmod, here are the places to connect for pin 12 and pin 13 of up1509.
As usual, you do it at your own expense.
Beware you can fry your blade.




887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 04, 2014, 04:04:45 PM
I see that replacament should work 7004 have much more ampers.
But didn't find 5002
sorry, IRFH5302 on my board
888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 04, 2014, 11:56:03 AM


Which resistor value will then be enabled ?
36k resistor ? Also, where is it located ?

Regards
resistors are as follow from left to right on my picture
33k (the one I replaced for the first mod)
27k
33k
36k <- should use this one when bridging


So this one is withouth changing resistor.
I am more interested to adding mosfets to Q6 to Q8
what is exact mark of Q6 to Q8, here on pic is unreadable?

it's been discussed on this thread.
they are 2x IRF5300 and one IRFH5302

I ordered IRFH7004 to try as a direct replacement and IRFB7437PBF for an homemade powerboard


889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 04, 2014, 07:18:45 AM
here is the bridge voltmod for the blade. still untested, I'll have to physically check on the board for voltage =1 to be sure

890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 04, 2014, 06:17:13 AM
has already someone found the "vMod 1" aka bridge-two-jumpers?

I checked on the schematics of the pod, so, basically, you are bridging R333, and then you enable voltage=1 all the time by bridging R337.
They are connected to pin 13 and 12 of the up1509, so quite easy to find.
 I'll have a look after breakfast.

I'll check on the PCB, but not sure I'll mod this one. I managed to get 2 hw errors on 8 hours @ 7.2MH/s with my custom cooling.
I'll buy a second one to try.

[2014-05-04 08:14:07] Runtime: 8 hrs : 48 mins : 59 secs
[2014-05-04 08:14:07] Average hashrate: 7.2 Megahash/s
[2014-05-04 08:14:07] Solved blocks: 0
[2014-05-04 08:14:07] Best share difficulty: 1.5M
[2014-05-04 08:14:07] Share submissions: 2352
[2014-05-04 08:14:07] Accepted shares: 2337
[2014-05-04 08:14:07] Rejected shares: 15
[2014-05-04 08:14:07] Accepted difficulty shares: 3346304
[2014-05-04 08:14:07] Rejected difficulty shares: 20864
[2014-05-04 08:14:07] Reject ratio: 0.6%
[2014-05-04 08:14:07] Hardware errors: 2
[2014-05-04 08:14:07] Utility (accepted shares / min): 4.42/min
891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GridSeed 5-chip USB miner voltage mod on: May 03, 2014, 08:49:48 PM
Does anyone know the Resistor value of the R43 resistor? Its two spots below R52...

I accidentally took it off of one of my gridseeds when removing R52. Its kind of burnt and probably not working so I will order another to replace it.

if it's the one on the left of R52 (R139), you shouldn't need it, it's only used when switching the pod to different modes by software.
Just try the pod without it.
BTW, it should be R63, so 30k. you can replace it with your old R52(R139) that is 33k. The pod should work a little faster than 350Kh/s if you switch to this predefined mode.
the real R43 isn't connected anyway.

picture would have been better, but after checking the actual PCB, you are looking for R63, so 30K, or your old 33K or you can even leave it without the resistor, it should work

892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 03, 2014, 08:13:34 PM

for some reasons, item restricted by ebay... can't see it

I used the ones from this auction.

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251251434021&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
1mm too small, but they are doing the job.
higher fins would have been better too
893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 03, 2014, 04:50:00 PM
To stay on topic, since I'm back home, I made some improvements to the cooling.
Looks interesting for now.
heatsinks in each chips, forced air flow on the overheating parts with custom cover.
a few pics will be posted soon.

I also tried dual 25V 1000uF capacitors I had at hand, but they don't improve anything.
So 220uF 25V should be enough and a little smaller.

BTW, I managed to melt a power plug from my cables by trying back a 46K resistor. Simply too much current for it to handle if you use a single plug.

you mean heatsink on each power supply chip? Mining chips are not that hot i assume
hihger value capactior can't do much good, because It is just glading input capacitor.
Try to put some larger heatsink on the bottom side of board where it is high temperature of power chips

heatsinks on each mining chip. after overclocking with 43K resistor, they are getting hot. actually, the body of the blade is around 40°C. warm to touch.
heatsink under the power chips helps too, but I only have 1 that fits at the moment.
894  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 03, 2014, 03:00:58 PM
To stay on topic, since I'm back home, I made some improvements to the cooling.
Looks interesting for now.
heatsinks in each chips, forced air flow on the overheating parts with custom cover.
a few pics will be posted soon.

I also tried dual 25V 1000uF capacitors I had at hand, but they don't improve anything.
So 220uF 25V should be enough and a little smaller.

BTW, I managed to melt a power plug from my cables by trying back a 46K resistor. Simply too much current for it to handle if you use a single plug.
895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 02, 2014, 07:50:29 PM
So as I see you will add mosfets like there are Q5 to Q8?
Are you sure that other parts like L2 and some resistors can handle that?

all the overheating parts will be doubled, including L2.
The up1509 will be powered by a doubled channel because the actual limiting factor is the capacity of the channel.

It should work since the other components aren't stressed that much, even when I overclock @ 7.5MH/s
We might be able to achieve around 8MH/s, maybe a little more.
On my pods, the chips are running at least at 104kh/s, so my math says 8.3Mh/s is doable with the good power board.
896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 02, 2014, 09:26:16 AM
so you need about 300W per blade, but I think only way is to made a custom power supply or to get one with 5V and lower to what it takes for OC.

A simple copy/paste of the actual board with same or upgraded components connected in parallel should work.
That's what I'll try.

Hey J4bberwock,

Why you don't try to use 1 Gridseed 5-chip board as additional power source...?

Their power section is designed to deliver up to 60W in BTC...which is about 30+ Amps @ 1.75V overvolted... maybe enough to supplement the power section of the 1 blade...plus you could control the Voltage DVDD+ very precisely using a trim pot...so the Blade and the 5 chip would be at the same voltage for parallel operation...

IMHO it will be easier to implement than a custom external source...just an idea to think about...I believe it's doable... Wink  

ZiG

EDIT...: It is already "Cut&Paste" ...almost the same power section...+ it is already manufactured, ready to use...no redesign, PCB, production...etc needed...C42 is a good output point...


Hi,

you are close to what I want to do. I want to double the part of the board that feeds the up1509. this way, the chips will still have the same regulated power supply.
The idea is to try to bridge 2 pods before going on the blade.

I already identified easy connection points on the board, yellow/orange circles

red circles are our hot spots to cool down.
Funny thing is the initial design used 4 vrm (Q5 to Q8) for 8 chips and they decided to cut it down to 3 as on the 5chips pod, but for 40 chips. Should be related to the LTC only mode on the blades.

+5V will be collected after bat54C on R10, 12V at C12 and the return will be at R14, R117, R15, EC3, R31, R36 plus ground. only 9 connection points, should be ok.

 

897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: May 01, 2014, 08:39:57 AM
so you need about 300W per blade, but I think only way is to made a custom power supply or to get one with 5V and lower to what it takes for OC.

A simple copy/paste of the actual board with same or upgraded components connected in parallel should work.
That's what I'll try.
898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: April 30, 2014, 08:44:39 PM
@xcooling,
I replaced the 16v cap with 2 parallel 220uF 25V I had.
It will be replaced by 2 parallel 470uF 35V since I'm back at home.

best results so far
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=576784.msg6386770#msg6386770

1100Mhz with some HW errors 7.5Mh/s
or 1083MHz with almost no HW errors 7.2Mh/s

More tests soon since I'm back at home, but I'm still awaiting some heatsinks ordered 2 weeks ago.
We should be able to get 7.5Mh/s with almost no HW errors by cooling the chips.
Errors are appearing after some time and they are happening faster when the board gets hotter.

Next step will probably be an homemade improved power board that will be tried on one 5 chips pod before I try it on the blade.

more pics will be posted when I'll upgrade the PCB with cooling.

899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GridSeed 5-chip USB miner voltage mod on: April 30, 2014, 10:34:26 AM
oh well looks like crystal swap is in the pipline - upgrade the crystal anyone? thinking maybe a 33mhz in there Wink.


Since I'm curious, I ordered some crystals to test on one pod. I'll report if anything apart from black magic smoke comes out of the tests.
According to gridseed notes, the crystal used can be up to 50MHz.

27MHz arrived at home, so I'll test it on one pod if it still hashes, I'll go for 33Mhz or close
I'm wondering where we can see the difference since the pod only uses the oscillator/crystal as a clock reference.
1000Mhz setting will actually be 1080, but where/how to check?
900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GRIDSEED G-BLADE Overclocking 7Mh/s on: April 30, 2014, 10:23:32 AM
anyone tested a 43Kohm resistor ?

Could only source a 39 and a 43.
I'm using 43 +/- 5%

One of them is 42, the second one is 42.7.
Both PCB works correctly but very hot so active cooling .
Doubled power plugs, upgraded capacitors on one PCB and 0.75mm² wires to power the blades.
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