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781  Economy / Speculation / Re: are you all watching? on: June 08, 2012, 08:12:19 PM
CampBX just shot to $7.24/BTC on low volume.
782  Economy / Speculation / Re: Block reward changing to 25 BTC 6 months for now on: June 08, 2012, 06:19:49 PM
The Mayans predicted the block halving  Cheesy

That's a t-shirt.
783  Economy / Speculation / Re: are you all watching? on: June 08, 2012, 06:18:28 PM
It's only Friday. Doesn't the big news always happen on Fridays and weekends (versus the bombast on Mondays to Wednesdays) ? Wink

Spain to Request EU Bank Aid Soon: ECB Official (over the weekend)
784  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER GPU FPGA overclock monitor fanspeed GCN RPC linux/windows/osx 2.4.2 on: June 08, 2012, 04:33:28 AM
A major factor for the popularization of Linux in business environments was unsanctioned admin/user installation at workplace data centers and workstations.
I fail to see what that has to do with using your employers resources to make a personal gain on a Windows 7 machine.

Exposure. Without awareness, an idea doesn't spread. Some businesses may reject Bitcoin, but others might investigate and possibly embrace it - not necessarily in a mining capacity. As a technology-savvy business owner, I would be interested in a method that could generate additional income using the equipment I already have.

Only 36 hours until I upgrade from 2.4.1 to 2.4.2 - it will then be a continuous 30 day run Smiley
785  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER GPU FPGA overclock monitor fanspeed GCN RPC linux/windows/osx 2.4.2 on: June 08, 2012, 03:44:32 AM
Sad to see yet ANOTHER person stealing employer resources. Hope you get fired ...

A major factor for the popularization of Linux in business environments was unsanctioned admin/user installation at workplace data centers and workstations.
786  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: Is bitcoin a risky invesment ? on: June 08, 2012, 03:38:01 AM
Any of this is plausible and may be required in any legislation. But when it comes to Bitcoin, it's quite easy to find a legal solution to get rid of if or pervert it:
Just add a requirement that VAT & friends can be processed in real time:
http://bitcoinmedia.com/the-brave-new-world-of-mobile-payment/
This would IMHO take care of Bitcoin, without even targeting it. It would force the payment providers to implement an RTPay gateway.

Yes and no. As always, what we end up with will be more complex than it appears. There is an incentive structure that makes Bitcoin appealing no matter what stigma is projected on it.

Very similar to tax havens and countries friendly to international business corporations or trusts, there will be regions that openly offer the flexibility and freedom to use Bitcoin without backlash. Much discussion has been made about how Bitcoin reduces 'friction' in finance. When benefits and 'a better way of doing things' become apparent, they will eventually be adopted even in spite of opposing pressure.

There might always be VAT and government interference, but legislation can only delay or mask beneficial ideas and practices. No gathering of politicos can wave their collective magic fountain pen wands and make Bitcoin disappear any more than they've been successful at making Bittorrent vanish, because time is not on their side.
787  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 07, 2012, 06:11:06 PM
This may be about as good as it gets for covering PM shorts.

The markets are calling Bernanke on his bluff in this high-stakes poker game. Only ~$30 down on a major announcement Ben, really? Weak. And no real confirmation from other fiat? Sad.

Even though the house has the keys to the vault, it's way outnumbered by the players.

As tvbcof pointed out, credit has been given where due.
788  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Fed will not ease. on: June 07, 2012, 05:04:47 AM
Gold and 'the one true crypto-currency' both fail miserably in such an environment.  Both for the masses, and most likely for those who managed to win (or be born with) all the chips since they are in constant danger of ending up on meat-hooks in the town square and it will come to pass on occasion (absent and unfortunate de-population event.)

With a stable supply and a stable environment, gold does phenomenally well as money. The same applies to crypto-currencies, especially static-supply variants like Bitcoin that can do well in both growth and post-growth economies. In a relatively static growth system, it would be very difficult for wealth disparities to arise, and any disruptions would spread quickly until they become normalized.

But it does not follow that Post Growth leads to re-distribution of wealth. Although I think it makes income mobility more possible because it frees people from the rigid structures of a tiered, debt-based, mandatory growth economic system.

Yes. Although redistribution may be more likely to occur in a market-force capacity because of that increased mobility.

For a while it looked like China might be the growth engine to help preserve the system, but now those hopes are fading. So now we can look to Sub Saharan Africa, but it will take a while to get that engine running... Even so, that is the last gasp. Africa is all the room we have left to turn this ship around.

Growth potential is still effectively unlimited.
789  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: IPv6 now live on bitcoin network - please test on: June 07, 2012, 04:56:15 AM
A static IPv6 subnet with privacy extensions enabled is no worse than a static IPv4 address and NAT. Dynamic IPv4 address don't offer all that much protection of someone really wants to find out who you are; the ISP can always look up who was assigned that address at the time.

For anything more than superficial anonymity, you need onion routing, al la Tor or I2P, to disguise the sources of your connections among a pool of other addresses with multiple independent levels of indirection.

cjdns?
790  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 06, 2012, 09:04:01 PM
One more thing to watch: the gold-silver ratio has now failed a third attempt to breach the 56-57 range high established in September 2011. Continued breakdown of the ratio will be a very good sign.
791  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: Is bitcoin a risky invesment ? on: June 06, 2012, 08:47:27 PM
What about surveillance with the help of ISPs? What about banning tunneling-techniques for private end-users?

That hasn't worked so well with I2P & Tor - and those are just the two most popular darknets. Deep packet inspection isn't effective for detecting properly encrypted tunnels, and is incapable of operating outside of its own network reach. Encrypted traffic can be made to look like HTTPS and a direct connection can be avoided by adding proxies.
792  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 06, 2012, 08:31:27 PM
Lastly, I haven't weighed in on the equities decline because it hasn't had the ring of true concern; it's been more like a toddler's temper tantrum than a genuine emergency situation. This has been highlighted nicely by Eric De Groot.
Eric Degroot will be wrong; again.

I wonder what your definition of 'wrong' is.

The Australian dollar experienced large-scale accumulation on its decline. After a week it dipped 300bp then rose the same amount to form a V bottom on the dailies, and with very few along for the ride.

Statistical concentration of capital is an overweight position and ripe for reversal. Within two days of the linked post, the dollar and the long bond slowed their ascent while gold shot up almost $100.

GLD statistically oversold means that there isn't much downside left. Where are we now? From 152, GLD rose to 159.

TLT flashed a warning on June 1st and is now down a hefty 5 points from that peak.

Brent crude is back over $100 and NYMEX is sure to follow, as accumulation is occuring here as well.
793  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Fed will not ease. on: June 06, 2012, 08:58:47 AM
No, the myth is that exponential growth can continue:
 http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/2012/04/economist-meets-physicist/

Phenomenal post! Thanks for sharing Smiley

we are soooo fucked  Wink

Not at all! As Murphy suggested at the end of the discussion, future economies and growth will be unrecognizable.

Quote from: Tom Murphy
It’s not growing GDP, growing energy use, interest on bank accounts, loans, fractional reserve money, investment. It’s a whole different ballgame, folks. Of that, I am convinced. Big changes await us. An unrecognizable economy.

The way Bitcoin is structured allows for development/growth (to use Murphy's terms) in a way so totally foreign to contemporary views that any lack of a deep understanding leads people to think it's a scam, when a decade from now we'll be laughing at how anyone could've even entertained that thought.

There's also a historical pattern in which slowing or stagnant growth builds pressure until a new direction for growth breaks out. Going the 'space cadet' route means it's likely that humanity will approach the limits possible on Earth, then expand outward from there - like the surface area of the light bulb to a body, activity from Earth will spread to other planets.

As long as we don't send ourselves into oblivion first Smiley
794  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Fed will not ease. on: June 06, 2012, 12:50:13 AM
What most have considered a cautionary tale, others have recognized as prophecy.

The end result remains the same.
795  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 05, 2012, 11:21:49 PM
Hi all, I'm looking for some advice - I have some more fiat to invest and I've been racking my brain on where to put it. I'm new to Bitcoin but I've been buying heavily for the last 2 months. I already have decent physical gold and silver stacks. Here are the choices I've narrowed it down to:

1) More Bitcoin (though I have to admit I am hesitant to let my Bitcoin investment get into 5 figures)

2) More physical gold (I'm leaning towards this right now)

3) Mining shares (you know, the ones that the people on KWN are always saying are going to the moon)

4) Managed forex account (I know 90% of them are just scams, but I was hoping there are a couple of legitimate ones out there that could return at least 10% a year. If anyone knows of any, please share.)

All opinions are greatly appreciated!

Out of the four options, I would personally go with 1+2 with selective exposure to 3 and a token (disposable) amount in 4.

Another thing you can do without increasing Bitcoin exposure is invest with a project on the lending forum. Most are affiliated with Pirate's business and offer very high rates of return. After your initial investment has grown (maybe doubled), you can withdraw your capital and let the excess continue to grow.

If you want to avoid the excessive uncertainty surrounding Pirate's business, I recommend hashking's offering, which is backed by an established real-world business. The rates of return are more reasonable and/or stable.

You might be better off just keeping most of your bitcoins liquid for now, though - wait until a major event and then deploy after things have settled down for a while.

perhaps i should get a new toy.

Go big or go home Smiley
796  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Fed will not ease. on: June 05, 2012, 10:58:18 PM
By 'dilution' I take it that you mean 'inflation'. I do not expect the USD to inflate (hyperinflate) more than currencies as a whole. In the short term it will inflate less, which is part of the Fed's strategy. As we face diminishing growth, and post growth, the debt based markets will surely crumble. The Fed will use the IMF and other means to funnel wealth to US interests.

Oh I was using dilution in regard to global usage of the dollar, not monetary inflation. Much like the Gox share of BTC trading has declined (dilution of the market by number and quality of competitors eroding Gox' share), usage of the USD around the world is declining relative to other currencies. Inflation is one reason for that decrease in usage.

Nah, exploitation of African resources can keep this zombie limping along for another few decades.

Look for a lot of stories in the upcoming news about 'investment' in Africa. The Asian story is so last decade.

Questions arise: to what extent will exploitation occur vs long-term productive enterprise, and by whom? Exploitation tends to result in difficulties later on, making continued exploitative activity more costly than more equitable ventures. Africa has been on China's & South American nations' radar for some time, with a lot of wealth engaged in such long-term dealings.
797  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 05, 2012, 08:37:33 PM
ok fair enough.  but don't forget i made money on the GDXJ if you insist on putting it that way. Cheesy

If you left the hedge on, you could've at least done well with the spread when the miners rise faster than gold Smiley

Jim Rickards says it best.

Quote from: Jim Rickards
Gold remains the 8,000 ton gorilla in the room; the thing that is too big to ignore but that no one wants to discuss. The international monetary system and the role of the dollar are in dire straits even if all of the gold is where it is supposed to be. It is not necessary to fantasize about phantom gold in order to see that a monetary crisis is imminent. The Fed and Treasury refusal to audit gold is part of their painstaking effort to deny that gold is still at the heart of the system. No more elaborate explanation is required.

Once you start pulling the derivative thread, the whole illusory system comes unraveled...
798  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Fed will not ease. on: June 05, 2012, 08:28:16 PM
Actually, I would expect the opposite effect with greater proportional dilution of the USD compared with other currencies. The scenario I have put forth assumes a relatively strong USD. Which is also essential for the US to push its AML/KYC agendas globally.

In what market do you expect USD will be diluted, traditional markets, or Bitcoin? I see a spillover effect from USD to other currencies. In looking at the overall trend formed by the cyclical dollar strength patterns, I agree that the dollar will be diluted more than others (in both traditional and Bitcoin markets), largely because of its periods of relative strength and compliance efforts.
799  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: June 05, 2012, 08:08:42 PM
so what's your point?  if it's that i lost money in the short term shorting GLD, wrong, b/c of the GDXJ long hedge.  

The only point I was making is that comparing a single position with an aggregate holding is misleading. You responded to silverbox's update on GLD with a GLD/GDXJ combination (in response to whether you covered or not, which is all well and good - but you are upside down with GLD alone) - not a valid comparison without noting the disparity. A system with integrated graphics could be compared to one with a discrete GPU, but it wouldn't be meaningful without noting the contextual distinction.

Yes I'm splitting hairs here a bit over a semantic issue, but I'm glad you had a hedge in place. I'd be even more glad for you if you had physical metal Smiley
800  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Fed will not ease. on: June 05, 2012, 07:49:06 PM
So, what do you think this means for Bitcoin?

I maintain that there will be a continued erosion in the percent of USD/BTC share and so a continued erosion of Gox's overall market share. Which I think it good for Bitcoin.

The dilution of USD is a global effect, and I think inevitable that it's being reflected in the Bitcoin environment. Definitely a good thing for Bitcoin - increasing global mindshare with decreasing USD-exclusive exposure means that Bitcoin will be on the receiving end of wealth flows from multiple sources.

Gox may see a similar decrease in USD flows, but the overall BTC market share depends much more on policy. The recent AML/KYC moves have been very discouraging.
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