Hello, bonuses are credited to the my balance of tokens automatically or I need to register on the site?
Here we go. Manual how to get them. Payout delivers automatically to your wallet with ROCK2. and you need to make a command https://t.me/Ice_Rock_News/195Whois paying for the Factory remodel and how much does it cost ? Infact how about you produce a ledger where you Detail what you have spend your investors money on. |
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Laurent
I cannot make a statement about the near future because I don't know FInma's timeline. It could be the near future when they finish their investigation and it might not be.
The founders are committed to advancing the concept. There was never any plan to just use one design forever. Improved designs and customized minining units for special installations were already in development before we had to shut things down because Woestmann paralyzed the project.
The same plan for continued progress and mining development will be implemented if/when ownership is restored to the founders.
Laurent has been lying to investors dozens of times, it's well documented and obvious to anyone who is willing to face the sad reality. He is complicit in this fraud and produced a lot of evidence being used lawsuits in Germany, by investors and prosecutors. There us 0 reason to believe a notorious liar and spin-doctor. Lol total nonsense, the only one that is still here for the investors is Laurent, communicating on behave of the founders. The scumbagv CEO and his gang of criminal lawyers buddies like Von Aubel are the crooks in this story. Committing criminal act of illegal capital increase to put the founders off-site and run off with 100m usd. Matthias Woestmann, the snake, is trying to liquidate the company and pay everyone back in crypto. The same crypto that's more than 50% down..It's a clever move from the snake CEO. After refund he and his criminal lawyer Von Aubel will be left will l with millions of dollars. Founders are fighting this liquidation plan of the CEO, for us investors and the company. "tokens are locked don't spread lies" ring anybells m8 ? Everything is running fine factory is working on the MMU's ? the list goes on and on you are not fooling anyone dude. Another fairytale. Read this first. https://www.presseportal.de/en/pm/132940/4125741https://icoexaminer.com/ico-news/envion-founders-contest-liquidation-ruling/You can just look at "Clay's" handy work involving Rise .. a long list of lies and inaccuracies there as well. |
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Someone just wants to keep the EVN token on the coinmarketcap that's why with small amount of money big rises in percentages happens. People have doen with it even exchanges are gone. It makes me surprise how few people are so positive for a dead project when others are not. What they can see and we don't ? Have they access to information what we don't ?
It doesn't matter that EVN is still listed on CMC or Not but Already delisted on HitBTC so now there is only $4k volume that mostly trading on yobit and tokenstore. Few people still positive about this project because investigation still goin on But there is less hope that project will survive.  There can't be high volume of EVN on any exchange, until the situation with project will not be resolved. So we should wait for it, and only then we will watch trading volume of EVN. Trading volume ?? for what its about to get Liquidated m8 who cares about trading volume on a dead project. why its rising and in one day of crypto positive market envion price is up about more then 60% you are right that envion need liquidity. but yet no news or update from the envion team also 60% rising is no matter because without demand we can not sell our envion tokens. Its because of the liquidation news Idiots are thinking they will get the same liquidation price as the ico holders those people are living in lala land. Envion doesn't need anything anymore have u even read any of the news ?? Its Dead Kaput Gone .. they are being liquidated no matter what Spin Master Laurent is feeding you m8 wake the F*ck up . |
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Hi ICOEthics,
This is Thomas, the managing director of World Help Disability Welfare Foundation. I would like to address some of the questions you are asking. But before that I would also hope that you can clarify here in your thread why you intentionally missed out some of the important details in the letter I sent you. A lot of the answers you are looking for I have already tried to provide you with in that letter. So I am going to answer them again here.
1. Is World Help Disability Welfare Foundation and IDAC real?
Yes. World Help Disability Welfare Foundation is an officially registered organisation in Singapore with two aims - to help families and people with disabilities and to collect and analyse data which helps to develop new technologies for the disabled communities. It is rather strange for me to see that you purposely left out the part where I told you that we are able to provide you with the official government documents regarding our organisation which you can use to verify with the Singapore government. The government of Singapore is one of the most efficient and non corrupted government organisations in the world, I am sure they would be able to assist you should you require any clarification from them.
As for IDAC, it is a project that we are jointly developing with Zhongke Hive, a team of developers in China. The testnet is almost ready and will be released for testing soon after the ico. The platform is aimed at improving the current state of charity, where the management of charitable fund is highly centralised and untrackable. The project was partially inspired by some major cases of fraud and corruption, including the case of Haiti earthquake relief work where a huge sum of donation went missing under the management of the American Red Cross organisation.
2. Did we use fake IDs initially before our ICO sale?
Yes. And we have expressed our sincere apologies and provided you with a detailed explanation for it. Again you intentionally left out the details and instead, used the word 'lame' as your response. So I will try to provide the details here again. Like I mentioned earlier, the team mainly consists of Chinese engineers and developers (like a lot of the major crypto companies do) , who do not wish to reveal their identities due to the recent government crack down on any crypto related projects in China. The team members have other career commitments and some of them work in government funded organisations. So it is really very inconvenient and even risky for them to reveal their identities. However, after we found out about your post and learnt that there are people who actively look for dubious icos and give out warnings, we felt that you guys have a good cause and as developers, we should be responsible and honest for our product despite the risks that some of us might be taking. So we decided to stand by our creation, and replaced these fake IDs with real people from our team.
3. Did we pass KYC on ICObench?
Yes. We indeed passed all of the kyc tests ICObench requested for. I have no idea why you claimed that we did not pass any kyc test, that is simply untrue.
I hope I have answered some of your questions. If you need any more clarification, i am here to answer them. ICObench is requesting for extra kyc verifications at the moment, once that is done IDAC will be relisted because we are able to provide authentic proof of our work to them.
Some of the doubts can be clarified in this reply. The IDAC team is making a video at the moment to discuss what IDAC is in detail. Please stay tuned for that! Lol you are funny  I dont give a damm how "detailed" your explanation is there is only one reason people use Fake IDs during ICO's you got caught now kindly F*ckoff. |
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Someone just wants to keep the EVN token on the coinmarketcap that's why with small amount of money big rises in percentages happens. People have doen with it even exchanges are gone. It makes me surprise how few people are so positive for a dead project when others are not. What they can see and we don't ? Have they access to information what we don't ?
It doesn't matter that EVN is still listed on CMC or Not but Already delisted on HitBTC so now there is only $4k volume that mostly trading on yobit and tokenstore. Few people still positive about this project because investigation still goin on But there is less hope that project will survive. There can't be high volume of EVN on any exchange, until the situation with project will not be resolved. So we should wait for it, and only then we will watch trading volume of EVN. Trading volume ?? for what its about to get Liquidated m8 who cares about trading volume on a dead project. |
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This isn't about current market situation but about the future of project what is finished. We are entering in more upgraded level of market era of cryptocurrencies with big traditional players getting involved. Only legit projects will remain and pump and dump are going to finish or reduce to minimum level. EVN has no active role in that era where we are heading to.
never mind, just forget Envion, there's no hope for Envion, so you have to move on from this scam project Wth are you talking about things are finally getting interesting People will get "Some" of their money back. |
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You are an hero How about prevent this Newbie from Telegram scammers and answer his questions?! [/quote] I am not on IRM Telegram nor do i take the time to read all the posts in this or their other threads my post was a mostly a copy paste what i posted in the main thread. Also im not responcible for anyone elses actions nor am i your mommy that has to protect you from everything and edjucate you. The warnings that i do give about projects that i assume are scams are my choice on how i spend my time so i dont appriciate the sarcasm. |
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Here's how my math comes out you have 2000 miners (not yet but soon) each making 2.24 a day = 4480 usd a day your power costs are 0.7758 per miner per day so x2k = 1551.6 so that's 33.7 % gone just on power that leaves you with 2928.4 . So lets assume that you manage to install all of them this time and get your average of 13.5 th and you keep them running for awhole month . so 30x 2928.4 = 87852 seems like a decent amount now lets see how that looks for someone that bought your token in ICO @ what 1usd value ? 87852 devided over 15.7 million tokens that gives me the whopping return of 0.0055956687898089 usd per token per month so it will take almost 200 months to get my money back at this rate you think that's a good deal ? or am I a "hater" because I can do math ? But that would only happen if they paid out all of that but they dont Team gets 10% remember so 13440 Usd right into the teams pocket then another 20 % for reinvestment so they dont have to pay that either they will just be "holding"it for you im sure they will get to the reinvestment part asap since they have been so quick with the first 10.000 miners they installed .. ow wait. The power costs also dont include those great big fans they where showing off so god knows how much those things use and im sure the team paid for those out of their own pocket and didnt touch the ICO funds for those just like the remodel of that old building. |
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Haters❗️ Where are you⁉️ Did you run to the corners and tails tucked
Who said there that miners will not come Who said that we will deceive everyone and run away♂️
We are developing and showing progress, we mine while competitors turn off their miners, we make profits and we are afloat
So before you carry the nonsense, study the project✅https://youtu.be/c03Ppyj0nUU How much profit does one of your miners make in a day ? Here's how my math comes out you have 2000 miners (not yet but soon) each making 2.24 a day = 4480 usd a day your power costs are 0.7758 per miner per day so x2k = 1551.6 so that's 33.7 % gone just on power that leaves you with 2928.4 . So lets assume that you manage to install all of them this time and get your average of 13.5 th and you keep them running for awhole month . so 30x 2928.4 = 87852 seems like a decent amount now lets see how that looks for someone that bought your token in ICO @ what 1usd value ? 87852 devided over 15.7 million tokens that gives me the whopping return of 0.0055956687898089 usd per token per month so it will take almost 200 months to get my money back at this rate you think that's a good deal ? or am I a "hater" because I can do math ? Offcourse this would only happen if that 66.3% would all be paid out but the team takes a cut and 20% for reinvestment so u end up with with a little more then a quarter of a cent per token per month. Or are you now going to tell me about your crytal ball and that bitcoin will be worth 250.000 tomorrow ? (if this would be true id be better of holding my btc) Edit my math is actually off more .. Those Fans are sure to use power the Remodel of that building wasn't Free did the team pay all of that out of their own pocket I don't think so. |
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Every time when a person who does not understand the situation, and does not own the information, writes nonsense, we read and laugh with the whole team to stomach cramps!
This is really fun! And we have revealed a pattern, people are doing this, who have not achieved anything in life themselves, who are simply unwitting and negative)))
Thank you for the free advertising and for investing your energy in us!
we read and laugh with the whole team to stomach cramps! I bet you are if i where you guys and had no morals i would be 2. |
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People! Wake up Follow the news on the official channel, do not let idiots fill your ears with false information! here is the link to the channel https://t.me/Ice_Rock_Newsso you have payed IRM token holders for last month ? |
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Fake , sounded fake from the start and it is.
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I don't doubt that I doubt where this posts comes from I don't even see a screen shot .. anyone can say this.
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Check it out! Smells fishy!!!  Clay: In order to reduce the rate of scam as regards our Public Sale on Monday, we have Private Pre-Sale open to interested investors only with 35% as the profit. Kindly let us know if you would be interested. Moreso, Kindly keep this information private and off our official group to avoid spam and scam from illegit users, as we contact selected members whom we feel are interested in our project. Clay: https://link.medium.com/ipumyiAzyRPre-Sale Registration I really can't understand why they need to hide it on public? Just because of the scamers? Or they are the one who will going to SCAM you? What do you think??? Looks scammy as hell ,, and since i dont know if thats really Laurent clay or just you posting this its hard to tell whois trying to scam. |
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Until monday. Remember remember the fifth of November
Now more delays more info on FRIDAY. |
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Does anyone know if the dividends payed out today? I'm curious if the price has come up significantly from last month. Can someone share the ROCK2PAY payment they got based on 1000 coins?
hello my last payment was 29/09 i have 3000tolkens they transfer 0,0169801183800433 eth No payment for this month ? why not ? |
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Hey, I was finally reading their website fully and I came up with the idea, to sing all the Rise slogans (I'm a musician). Nicki Minaj or Cardi B can take on 'em and do a nifty rap. I am sure, it would sound really good  I call the song "Forever (Lifetime income song)"Existing product, not just a concept!
Based on Uptick app with more than 100k users
Strong Advisor & Seed-Investor network
Lead by seasoned team of founders with proven track record
The RISE A.I. Has Beaten Markets Since 2012
A World-Class Team / Team of 10+ Quants and Investment Professionals
Real-Money Track Record / Managing Money Since 2012
Rise has consistently beaten global indices using world-class AITop 20 Performing CTA over 5 years Barclay Hedge 2017
Best European FinTech Asset Manager of 2016
The most innovative Professional Investment Germany 2016
Big institutions pay large fees to access Rise’s proprietary technology
As safe as it gets: Rise Profits
The RISE token will be listed on major exchanges after the STO, ensuring full liquidity
Rise's proven Über AI will manage the funds and continuously distribute dividends.
Fully automated system managed by Smart ContractsFully audited Smart Contracts
Full Privacy Data Protection on European Union Servers (GDPR)
Extensive Firewall Server Architecture off-internet
Created by a strong ecosystem of partners:
QUANTUMROCK Capital
DWF
Onpex
Berlin Technology GroupkəˈCHiNGRight Ka Ching .. but not for their Investors .. strange how ICO suddenly got delayed .. maybe because they didn't mention Any Risks .. now all of a sudden added .. these bullshit artists are trying to steal your money .. Nice song btw is that You Alex ? |
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Wrong Envion 2.0 .. Life time profit unproven model sold as solid gold Spin master and proven Liar Laurent running PR ow sorry I mean "Clay" the name Laurent would probably bring up some bad memories for investors and to many Hits on google. They are basicly going to be gambling with your money .. Team tokens Not locked at all just free instant money sweet deal if u can get it .. If you give them your money you will Lose it all you might get some of it back if u sell fast enough but trusting these people would be extremely stupid. |
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what's wrong with BITS, why do I see the price decreases every day? whether there are no plans for listings in other markets and we all hope that the price of BITS can be better in the future.
I accepted that I lost money. I very much doubt that the project will develop. There are no good exchanges, no trading volumes .... this is a fiasco How can you lose money and why do you doubt that this project will develop because in my opinion, even though until now there has been no rapid development but we must remain optimistic about this project I see some activity in other projects, I invest a lot in different projects. There is no activity in this project, team has collected money and does nothing. That's not true there is plenty of activity on the gateway / platform side (Their private project We Funded with BITS) but BITS is not really a part of that and gets no benifit from it. (unless u count the bullshit 0.5% fee discount wich is completly useless.) |
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Did anyone get paid today for their tokens and if so how much ?
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