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November 27, 2018, 10:44:47 AM
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Someone just wants to keep the EVN token on the coinmarketcap that's why with small amount of money big rises in percentages happens. People have doen with it even exchanges are gone. It makes me surprise how few people are so positive for a dead project when others are not. What they can see and we don't ? Have they access to information what we don't ?
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November 27, 2018, 12:22:17 PM
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Someone just wants to keep the EVN token on the coinmarketcap that's why with small amount of money big rises in percentages happens. People have doen with it even exchanges are gone. It makes me surprise how few people are so positive for a dead project when others are not. What they can see and we don't ? Have they access to information what we don't ?
It doesn't matter that EVN is still listed on CMC or Not but Already delisted on HitBTC so now there is only $4k volume that mostly trading on yobit and tokenstore. Few people still positive about this project because investigation still goin on But there is less hope that project will survive.  Roll Eyes
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November 28, 2018, 09:22:25 AM
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Someone just wants to keep the EVN token on the coinmarketcap that's why with small amount of money big rises in percentages happens. People have doen with it even exchanges are gone. It makes me surprise how few people are so positive for a dead project when others are not. What they can see and we don't ? Have they access to information what we don't ?
It doesn't matter that EVN is still listed on CMC or Not but Already delisted on HitBTC so now there is only $4k volume that mostly trading on yobit and tokenstore. Few people still positive about this project because investigation still goin on But there is less hope that project will survive.  Roll Eyes

There can't be high volume of EVN on any exchange, until the situation with project will not be resolved. So we should wait for it, and only then we will watch trading volume of EVN.

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November 28, 2018, 10:25:47 AM
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This isn't about current market situation but about the future of project what is finished. We are entering in more upgraded level of market era of cryptocurrencies with big traditional players getting involved. Only legit projects will remain and pump and dump are going to finish or reduce to minimum level. EVN has no active role in that era where we are heading to.
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November 28, 2018, 10:45:11 AM
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This isn't about current market situation but about the future of project what is finished. We are entering in more upgraded level of market era of cryptocurrencies with big traditional players getting involved. Only legit projects will remain and pump and dump are going to finish or reduce to minimum level. EVN has no active role in that era where we are heading to.
never mind, just forget Envion,
there's no hope for Envion, so you have to move on from this scam project

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November 28, 2018, 12:42:05 PM
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This isn't about current market situation but about the future of project what is finished. We are entering in more upgraded level of market era of cryptocurrencies with big traditional players getting involved. Only legit projects will remain and pump and dump are going to finish or reduce to minimum level. EVN has no active role in that era where we are heading to.
never mind, just forget Envion,
there's no hope for Envion, so you have to move on from this scam project


Wth are you talking about things are finally getting interesting People will get "Some" of their money back.

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November 28, 2018, 12:43:31 PM
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Someone just wants to keep the EVN token on the coinmarketcap that's why with small amount of money big rises in percentages happens. People have doen with it even exchanges are gone. It makes me surprise how few people are so positive for a dead project when others are not. What they can see and we don't ? Have they access to information what we don't ?
It doesn't matter that EVN is still listed on CMC or Not but Already delisted on HitBTC so now there is only $4k volume that mostly trading on yobit and tokenstore. Few people still positive about this project because investigation still goin on But there is less hope that project will survive.  Roll Eyes

There can't be high volume of EVN on any exchange, until the situation with project will not be resolved. So we should wait for it, and only then we will watch trading volume of EVN.

Trading volume ?? for what its about to get Liquidated m8 who cares about trading volume on a dead project.

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We pay for life with death , so everything in between should be free. Bill Hicks -- It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light. Aristotle
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November 28, 2018, 06:00:20 PM
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Someone just wants to keep the EVN token on the coinmarketcap that's why with small amount of money big rises in percentages happens. People have doen with it even exchanges are gone. It makes me surprise how few people are so positive for a dead project when others are not. What they can see and we don't ? Have they access to information what we don't ?
It doesn't matter that EVN is still listed on CMC or Not but Already delisted on HitBTC so now there is only $4k volume that mostly trading on yobit and tokenstore. Few people still positive about this project because investigation still goin on But there is less hope that project will survive.  Roll Eyes

There can't be high volume of EVN on any exchange, until the situation with project will not be resolved. So we should wait for it, and only then we will watch trading volume of EVN.

Trading volume ?? for what its about to get Liquidated m8 who cares about trading volume on a dead project.

why its rising and in one day of crypto positive market envion price is up about more then 60%
you are right that envion need liquidity. but yet no news or update from the envion team
also 60% rising is no matter because without demand we can not sell our envion tokens.
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November 28, 2018, 06:57:56 PM
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I cannot make a statement about the near future because I don't know FInma's timeline. It could be the near future when they finish their investigation and it might not be.  

The founders are committed to advancing the concept.  There was never any plan to just use one design forever. Improved designs and customized minining units for special installations were already in development before we had to shut things down because Woestmann paralyzed the project.  

The same plan for continued progress and mining development will be implemented if/when ownership is restored to the founders.

Laurent has been lying to investors dozens of times, it's well documented and obvious to anyone who is willing to face the sad reality.
He is complicit in this fraud and produced a lot of evidence being used lawsuits in Germany, by investors and prosecutors.
There us 0 reason to believe a notorious liar and spin-doctor.

Lol total nonsense, the only one that is still here for the investors is Laurent, communicating on behave of the founders.

The scumbagv CEO and his gang of criminal lawyers buddies like Von Aubel are the crooks in this story.

Committing criminal act of illegal capital increase to put the founders off-site and run off with 100m usd.

Matthias Woestmann, the snake, is trying to liquidate the company and pay everyone back in crypto. The same crypto that's more than 50% down..It's a clever move from the snake CEO. After refund he and his criminal lawyer Von Aubel will be left will l with millions of dollars.

Founders are fighting this liquidation plan of the CEO, for us investors and the company.

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November 28, 2018, 06:59:20 PM
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Someone just wants to keep the EVN token on the coinmarketcap that's why with small amount of money big rises in percentages happens. People have doen with it even exchanges are gone. It makes me surprise how few people are so positive for a dead project when others are not. What they can see and we don't ? Have they access to information what we don't ?
It doesn't matter that EVN is still listed on CMC or Not but Already delisted on HitBTC so now there is only $4k volume that mostly trading on yobit and tokenstore. Few people still positive about this project because investigation still goin on But there is less hope that project will survive.  Roll Eyes

There can't be high volume of EVN on any exchange, until the situation with project will not be resolved. So we should wait for it, and only then we will watch trading volume of EVN.

Trading volume ?? for what its about to get Liquidated m8 who cares about trading volume on a dead project.

why its rising and in one day of crypto positive market envion price is up about more then 60%
you are right that envion need liquidity. but yet no news or update from the envion team
also 60% rising is no matter because without demand we can not sell our envion tokens.


Its because of the liquidation news Idiots are thinking they will get  the same liquidation price as the ico holders  those people are living in lala land.

Envion doesn't need anything anymore have u even read any of the news ??
Its Dead Kaput Gone .. they are being liquidated no matter what Spin Master Laurent is feeding you m8 wake the F*ck up .


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We pay for life with death , so everything in between should be free. Bill Hicks -- It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light. Aristotle
Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. Buddha -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Socrates
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Laurent

I cannot make a statement about the near future because I don't know FInma's timeline. It could be the near future when they finish their investigation and it might not be. 

The founders are committed to advancing the concept.  There was never any plan to just use one design forever. Improved designs and customized minining units for special installations were already in development before we had to shut things down because Woestmann paralyzed the project. 

The same plan for continued progress and mining development will be implemented if/when ownership is restored to the founders.

Laurent has been lying to investors dozens of times, it's well documented and obvious to anyone who is willing to face the sad reality.
He is complicit in this fraud and produced a lot of evidence being used lawsuits in Germany, by investors and prosecutors.
There us 0 reason to believe a notorious liar and spin-doctor.

Lol total nonsense, the only one that is still here for the investors is Laurent, communicating on behave of the founders.

The scumbagv CEO and his gang of criminal lawyers buddies like Von Aubel are the crooks in this story.

Committing criminal act of illegal capital increase to put the founders off-site and run off with 100m usd.

Matthias Woestmann, the snake, is trying to liquidate the company and pay everyone back in crypto. The same crypto that's more than 50% down..It's a clever move from the snake CEO. After refund he and his criminal lawyer Von Aubel will be left will l with millions of dollars.

Founders are fighting this liquidation plan of the CEO, for us investors and the company.

"tokens are locked don't spread lies" ring anybells m8 ?
Everything is running fine factory is working on the MMU's ? the list goes on and on you are not fooling anyone dude.




Another fairytale.

Read this first.

https://www.presseportal.de/en/pm/132940/4125741
https://icoexaminer.com/ico-news/envion-founders-contest-liquidation-ruling/


You can just look at "Clay's" handy work involving Rise .. a long list of lies and inaccuracies there as well.

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Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. Buddha -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Socrates
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November 28, 2018, 07:29:48 PM
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Someone just wants to keep the EVN token on the coinmarketcap that's why with small amount of money big rises in percentages happens. People have doen with it even exchanges are gone. It makes me surprise how few people are so positive for a dead project when others are not. What they can see and we don't ? Have they access to information what we don't ?
It doesn't matter that EVN is still listed on CMC or Not but Already delisted on HitBTC so now there is only $4k volume that mostly trading on yobit and tokenstore. Few people still positive about this project because investigation still goin on But there is less hope that project will survive.  Roll Eyes

There can't be high volume of EVN on any exchange, until the situation with project will not be resolved. So we should wait for it, and only then we will watch trading volume of EVN.

Trading volume ?? for what its about to get Liquidated m8 who cares about trading volume on a dead project.

why its rising and in one day of crypto positive market envion price is up about more then 60%
you are right that envion need liquidity. but yet no news or update from the envion team
also 60% rising is no matter because without demand we can not sell our envion tokens.


Its because of the liquidation news Idiots are thinking they will get  the same liquidation price as the ico holders  those people are living in lala land.

Envion doesn't need anything anymore have u even read any of the news ??
Its Dead Kaput Gone .. they are being liquidated no matter what Spin Master Laurent is feeding you m8 wake the F*ck up .



dont waste your time trying to explain a rainbow to a blind person. Its hard parting from an investment if the future once looked so bright. They should focus on new diamonds being sold at ridiculous prices, often 25x lower than their ATH's

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November 28, 2018, 07:37:33 PM
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This isn't about current market situation but about the future of project what is finished. We are entering in more upgraded level of market era of cryptocurrencies with big traditional players getting involved. Only legit projects will remain and pump and dump are going to finish or reduce to minimum level. EVN has no active role in that era where we are heading to.
never mind, just forget Envion,
there's no hope for Envion, so you have to move on from this scam project

Sounds good, so start with yourself and stop posting your frustrations in this thread. Grin
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November 29, 2018, 07:01:52 AM
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Report: Zug Court Shuts Down Swiss Off-Grid Mining Firm Envion AG

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November 29, 2018, 08:08:00 AM
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This is the scam of the century i think.

They raised 100m $ and in return nothing. What a disgrace.

Now it is completely waste because we won't get any dividends from the Envion team because they scammed the people by showing fake promises to the investors. Now i think it is best option to move away from this project.

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Report: Zug Court Shuts Down Swiss Off-Grid Mining Firm Envion AG

https://cointelegraph.com/news/report-zug-court-shuts-down-swiss-off-grid-mining-firm-envion-ag

Very stupid decision from the court they should appoint blockchain expert who implement the smart contract for refund. This is very complicated and lengthy process to get our funds from this ICO as so many people already sold this token on a big loss because of this scammy practice.
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November 29, 2018, 09:45:04 AM
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so what now? Envion gets liquidated? Get prepared for ETH dumping hard, when some genius trustee decides to exchange the whole envion capital for payback.

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November 29, 2018, 05:07:27 PM
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so what now? Envion gets liquidated? Get prepared for ETH dumping hard, when some genius trustee decides to exchange the whole envion capital for payback.

Maybe somebody smart will be in charge and payout ETH instead of FIAT.

Might also be of some interest for investors:

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TRADO GmbH, Michael LUCKOW, and the Swiss ENVION AG have been represented by the Berlin law firm DWF. TRADO and/or LUCKOW have transferred many millions from the ENVION ICO to their own wallets and bank accounts. Most of ICO proceeds were exchanged for FIAT during the good times of the cryptocurrencies. According to various information in the files at the court and public prosecutor’s office, Michael LUCKOW and/or his TRADO GmbH are said to have received between EUR 10 and 17 million illegally. Although LUCKOW argues in court that TRADO also provided corresponding services for ENVION AG, in view of the non-existing assets and a never commenced business, payments in the millions cannot be justified before any judge in the world.
Read more: https://fintelegram.news/envion-causa-liquidation-allegedly-ordered/

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November 29, 2018, 06:22:18 PM
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Laurent

I cannot make a statement about the near future because I don't know FInma's timeline. It could be the near future when they finish their investigation and it might not be. 

The founders are committed to advancing the concept.  There was never any plan to just use one design forever. Improved designs and customized minining units for special installations were already in development before we had to shut things down because Woestmann paralyzed the project. 

The same plan for continued progress and mining development will be implemented if/when ownership is restored to the founders.

Laurent has been lying to investors dozens of times, it's well documented and obvious to anyone who is willing to face the sad reality.
He is complicit in this fraud and produced a lot of evidence being used lawsuits in Germany, by investors and prosecutors.
There us 0 reason to believe a notorious liar and spin-doctor.

Lol total nonsense, the only one that is still here for the investors is Laurent, communicating on behave of the founders.

The scumbagv CEO and his gang of criminal lawyers buddies like Von Aubel are the crooks in this story.

Committing criminal act of illegal capital increase to put the founders off-site and run off with 100m usd.

Matthias Woestmann, the snake, is trying to liquidate the company and pay everyone back in crypto. The same crypto that's more than 50% down..It's a clever move from the snake CEO. After refund he and his criminal lawyer Von Aubel will be left will l with millions of dollars.

Founders are fighting this liquidation plan of the CEO, for us investors and the company.

"tokens are locked don't spread lies" ring anybells m8 ?
Everything is running fine factory is working on the MMU's ? the list goes on and on you are not fooling anyone dude.




Another fairytale.

Read this first.

https://www.presseportal.de/en/pm/132940/4125741
https://icoexaminer.com/ico-news/envion-founders-contest-liquidation-ruling/


You can just look at "Clay's" handy work involving Rise .. a long list of lies and inaccuracies there as well.


Loool all nonsense.. if you join telegram chat, the founders channel, they talk openly how they also contribute to other projects and have done so well before Envion.

Laurent is an advisor to Rise, as they have to do some work now that everything with Envion is still under investigation. The criminal CEO and his lawyer crooks prevented the founders team to do any useful work for the company. You want them to sit around do nothing? They openly share info about what team members are contributing to what project until Envion is regained back. On top of that, they are also fighting in courts for us investors and the company.

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November 29, 2018, 06:25:06 PM
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Laurent:
* Envion Founders Telegram*

Latest info on case against CEO and the founder's fight to recover control of the company.

The Cantonal Court of Zug Switzerland has ruled that envion is to be liquidated.  The founders are working to reverse this ruling as the decision was made because of obstruction and lies by Matthias Woestmann.  Woestmann prevented auditors from communicating with Trado GmbH and the founders, and lied about the founders’ willingness to provide data to auditors.

DETAILED INFORMATION AND LATEST UPDATES HERE: www.envion-founders.org

LIQUIDATION FACTS

*  No liquidation has started
*  Currently no deadline to register a claim
*  Not necessary to pay anyone to file a claim

STILL UNDECIDED

*  If and when envion will be liquidated
*  What amount will be refunded
*  How token holders will be refunded
*  If Woestmann and shareholders will be paid ICO money remaining after refund (the founders are specifically fighting against this outcome)

WHAT TO EXPECT IN CASE OF LIQUIDATION

*  Regular updates from founders
*  Clear communication on how to file a refund claim
*  Plenty of time to file a claim

PREVIOUSLY

Envion’s founders have won an injunction against CEO Matthias Woestmann and codefendants Thomas van Aubel, Jutta von Falkenhausen, and Dinnies von der Osten prevent the sale or transfer of company shares and allow any transfer or debit of envion's assets.

Swiss financial authority FINMA has removed Woestmann and his associate Marc Gurov from the board and have begun an investigation.  The FINMA investigation is separate from the court ruling.

Founders’ response to FINMA probe: https://envion-founders.org/envion-ag-founders-welcome-investigation-by-swiss-financial-regulator-finma-and-removal-of-ceo-from-board/

INFO FROM BERLIN COURT

•  ILLEGAL: Matthias Woestmann’s capital increase and share dilution
•  REJECTED: Accusation that founders illegitimately created tokens
•  LIABLE: Quadrat Capital and Sycamore GmbH must pay Trado’s legal fees and are liable for damages
•  JAIL/FINES: For selling shares or initiating use of investor funds (6 months jail per infringement)


BLOG
https://envion-founders.org/founders-vow-to-resist-liquidation-of-envion-ag-allege-swiss-cantonal-court-ruling-based-on-false-information-from-board-chairman-matthias-woestmann/
https://envion-founders.org/sweeping-judgement-from-berlin-court-restricts-envion-ags-ceo-matthias-woestmann-from-any-decisions-without-founders-approval-finds-thomas-van-aubel-and-jutta-von-falkenhausen/
https://envion-founders.org/envion-founders-explain-team-token-transfers/

NEWS
https://envion-founders.org/envion-ag-raised-more-than-100-million-among-investors-in-the-euphoria-surrounding-cryptocurrencies-then-the-startup-crashed-into-chaos-a-virtual-thriller/
http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2018/06/07/1518482/0/en/Trado-GmbH-Announces-That-Berlin-Court-Intervenes-and-Grants-Preliminary-Injunction-Against-Matthias-Woestmann-and-Associates-Who-Lost-Millions-Of-Envion-Investor-Money.html

RULES

* No spamming!
* No personal attacks! It's not tolerated
* No CAPSLOCK / ALLCAPS
* No cocktail napkin math of any kind
* Scroll up and see if there is already an answer you seek

No Information on this channel should be construed as official communication from envion AG.  The views expressed here are those of the envion's founding team and Trado GmbH

Have a pleasant stay!

- Envion Founders

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