All the bitcoins were stolen... how about the euros/dollars we had stored there? Can't they be given back? Anyone?
the administrators will pay back the money from any funds left in gox, in order of importance (which is a bit shit considering it's up to the administrators to assign the order of importance)... it's a messy affair. Administrators are surly not on the scene yet because this is filing for Bankruptcy protection and not bankruptcy just yet anyway? Edit: ah do you mean Mt gox administrators ? |
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I am looking and still cant find a translation for that clip. Help a brother out if know of one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9U024diH-Q Best I can find. So they are claiming for real that they have lost all the bitcoins ? 0:48 |
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Still cant find an english translation  |
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guys, let's pool our resource together and throw Mark to jain and recover our fund, there is already an organized efforts at this site, join hands: http://www.mtgoxrecovery.com/Is it legitimate? Josh from bb said it wasn't. what do you mean by saying "legitimate", why is it not legitimate? organizing to sue a crook is more than legitimate. I would join it in a heart beat if I knew more about it. Right now I cant find anything about "them". Not about to sign up and hand over anything including an email until I see some transparency. |
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Guys, This looks more like a restructure and rebrand now than before... "Bankruptcy Protection" has some similarities to "Bankruptcy" but there is a huge difference... http://www.ehow.com/info_8053559_bankruptcy-vs-bankruptcy-protection.htmlhttp://www.differencebetween.net/business/difference-between-bankruptcy-and-bankruptcy-protection/It is basically a protection from the court to give them time to restructure and remodel and rebrand and re-everything (recode, relocate etc) while investors cannot sue them during that time: http://www.zalkinrevell.com/bankruptcyprotection.htmlSo.. think about it, if they are going to rebrand and start new, what is the next step they need to make? this one. Some evidence: 1. There was a HUGE btc debt erasing for a low $ value in the last weeks of trade on MTGox. (about 350k-400k coins have been erased as debt for a sum of around $63,000,000 - $72,000,000 ($180 per coin). 2. Gox.com redirects to MTGox.com. 3. Gox.com registry shows it was recently changed to the name of Mark Carpeles. 4. Mark said other parties are involved in trying to find a solution to this current problem, its live on mtgox.com 5. It's obvious that not taking a step to save and rescue almost a million MTGox customers can damage Bitcoin severely in the long run, due to more banks not agreeing to work with BTC companies, more regulation straggling Bitcoin businesses, panic from main stream and more. Therefore it is an incentive for big players to intervene. 6. On the document where a rescue plan is discussed and structured, the date for the shut-down of MTGox's website/trade is Japan morning time of the 25th February 25th. The document was released BEFORE the shut down happend, and indeed it was at the time specified. 7. The next step, according to the document is to restructure and Mark to step down. In my view, the chances of that rescue plan to be happening just got a lot bigger. Obviously, I might be wrong, and obviously even if a plan IS happening it doesn't guarantee it will succeed. Anyway, I think you should know and realize that this is (in my opinion) probably what is going on. We should get a statement on MTGox.com website within a week in my opinion. Nice post and I am inclined to agree. Disclaimer: I am one of the Goxxed and may not be in full possession of all my marbles while still firmly in the denial stages of grief. |
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Anyone knows if this has been translated to English somewhere?
This x 1million |
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It would be really really nice for mark to communicate with this customers at some point in stead of using IRc chats that we cant know for sure are real. Anyway I'll post this not having a clue if real or not. http://pastebin.com/BeZHNb72Edit: sorry did not read above post. I fail |
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I started using Gox back in 2011 cause I was still new, I sold 50-100 coins when the price was 25-30 dollars at the time. Now you are telling me that I could potentially be asked forced to RETURN the money???
Tbh I wouldn't worry about this right now. If something like that ever happened I'm sure the statute of limitations would be long gone. Just be glad you actually got out before now. Yep congrats |
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OP Tbh I think thats jumping the gun a little . Right now no one has clue whats going on so ...shrugs
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What a horrible can of worms for me to go to bed with thanks and night night.
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You are talking about clawback, but there is some reason that withdrawn btc would not apply for clawback...I just forgot why though  I think it might have something to do with me having to knowingly withdrawn funds from an insolvent company at the expense of everyone else or something like that I'm no lawyer. |
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Nice!! So I loose 73 Goxcoins and also I'm going to get sued for some 5000 Euros.
Mark just when I think my ass raping cant get any worse. Got to hand it to you mark buddy.
The Goxing Never Stops..24/7 365..Even after Gox dies, Goxing goes for eternity. Thank you Mark, its been a blessing. First you Gox, then you become goxxed, after that you are permanently goxxed. There's no escape really. I know right  Mark your are 100% off my Xmass card list. |
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 Well done!
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anyone?  ? Is the sending address a known Gox address? If not it means nothing because anyone cant send coins to it. To the multitude of smarter folk out there am I right or wrong? Edit: Smarter or in this case smarter and fast at typing folk. Dang beat me to it. |
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One last thing to consider: If Gox's private keys to 750K BTC has truly been lost forever, then any BTC people have in their own private wallets are now just that bit rarer making them more valuable in the long run.
Human nature being what it is - do you see a majority of people voting for something that devalues the coins they currently hold?
They could just destroy the Silkroad coins that were stolen by the US government while they are at it. This would compensate for the lost deflation. Also, many of the thousands of people who lost their savings would quit bitcoin alltogether. It is not in the interest of bitcoiners to alienate other users from bitcoin. As much as I really really want my GOXIOUBitcoins back and as awesome as it would be to see the FBI's stash ruined this is a slippery slope I hope we don't go down for the good of bitcoin Man was super hard to say that While i have to admit i would love to see those FBI coins vanish back into the rightful owners' pockets, i can see why the core devs and many others, including myself would refrain from taking such dramatic steps to make it happen. However, if it turns out that behind the 750k lost coins is also the FBI, i am all for it to take those dramatic steps. This would be nothing short of a declaration of war to BTC and we would have to defend ourselves if we were to be true about supporting BTC. just my 2 cents +internets If the FBI steal it and yes I do mean steal it then yes its all out war. |
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it looks like the owner of those coins, which is Karpeles, sent them to different addresses in equal batches at the same time, just a few days after he did the big 500k transaction.
Then, having exported paper wallet, accidentally cleant up a coffee spill with it. Now he's probably letting the cat type random chars to perform a brute force attack on his BIP38 key. Not a bad Idea I got more faith in the cat right now than mark. |
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I think he is trying to say "here take this" assuming that the US government has control of the coins. Well that's my guess what he is saying anyway.
Edit: Thats my guess what he is saying not what I think has happened.
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it looks like the owner of those coins, which is Karpeles, sent them to different addresses in equal batches at the same time, just a few days after he did the big 500k transaction.
Then, having exported paper wallet, accidentally cleant up a coffee spill with it. I'm laughing and crying at the same time |
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