Yep its still vaporware make no mistake. Sure there are lots of signs that we can take to be good signs but it does not detract from the fact that its vaporware until evidence suggests otherwise ie in depth pictures.

If we wait till Thurs then get more pictures of blue box and cant see the boards, dont have vid,s of them hashing, cant see a stack of asci chips then the whole thing as far as I'm concerned is a scam.

Chris needs to get it right this week not next week or the week after. There are no excuses that we as a community will find acceptable.


"Hey guys look at the news papers a plane crashed into our warehouse give me another day"

Us : " no get your phone and go into the burning wreckage find the chips or parts of them and show us pictures"

No one has time for bullshit excuses any more in fact no one has time for very real excuse's anymore.

Dont know but its splitting just like all the rest.

lol come on guys we taking this a bit far ?

 

If it is I think my bitcoin dream will come to an end. I'm already out about $50k bloody fat french fucker

@ Biffa the only reason I mailed him was to make sure we got this information. Its something a company is meant to do if you have the right to cancel. However if you don't have that right (yes there are some reasons you would not and I was concerned about a particular loophole) then the company is not obliged to inform you of this.

So TLDR: asked for information and he gave it to me and I now have a record of it for myself I believe that essentially yes I have the right to cool off.

Why this information is not already on the website? Ask Chris as it should be available to all customers.


Guy probably hates me but I just don't want to get screwed again.


Still until sufficient evidence pictures (mining porn) turn up it should be assumed we have paid for vaporware.

its more faith in the Credit card companies tbh which i am really hoping is not misplaced.

I would certainly not pay with btc at this stage but if things work out in a month or two would maybeeeee consider it.

He said yes so here you are. Sorry for horribad format did not want to dick about with it.

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Yes you can share any information with the community. We will be taking full board photos and also some production videos on Wednesday / Thursday this week.

We are just trying to clear the backlog of enquiries that have come in over the weekend. I will also post some information in the forum later, and from next week with have a dedicated marketing person starting who will keep the community updated on a daily basis.

Regards

Chris Armitage
Operations Director
Bitcoin Ultra
www.BitcoinUltra.co.uk

Mar 10, 2014 11:46:20 AM, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxv4 wrote:
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Thank you for your response it is very much appreciated. I believe it is in the interest of the community that I share this information is this ok with you ?

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Also there at many worried customers and even more potential customers waiting on the fence over at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469943.360 .

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Do you have an estimation on when you will have those photos up for everyone to see? I can only see that it would benefit you in doing so.

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Many thanks

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xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxv4

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 09:45:19 +0000
>From: chris@bitcoinultra.co.uk
>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: RE: Bitcoin Ultra: Order #45 has been processed
>
> Hi xxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
>
>Thanks for your email, to answer your points:
>
>
If you wish to cancel your order the "Official" method would be in writing but we are happy to accept confirmation of this by email. We will only refund you back to the same payment method you used during checkout (in your case credit card). It takes upto 3 days for the money to be refunded back to your card issuer.

>
Our postal address is:
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>Bitcoin Ultra
>Thurnscoe Business Centre
>Thurnscoe
>Rotherham
>South Yorkshire
>S63 0BL
If you wished to return your product we would issue you with a pre-paid return label for City Link UK, You would then need to contact them to arrange a time for collection.
All our miners come with a 3 month warranty as standard which covers all the hardware supplied, we are in the process of recruiting a new member of staff who will be covering all pre-sales and after sales support

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>We would also personally like to thank you for having faith in us as a business, and look forward to a long term relationship with you and the whole mining community.
>
>
>Regards
>Chris Armitage
>Operations Director
>Bitcoin Ultra
>www.BitcoinUltra.co.uk
>
>Mar 8, 2014 12:39:29 AM, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxv4 wrote:
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To BitcoinUltra

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Please provide the following information.

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how to cancel an agreement and the conditions which apply
a postal address where you can contact the trader
whether it will be your responsibility to cover the cost of returning the goods, and all associated costs, if the agreement is cancelled
Information about after-sales and guarantees.

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None of this information can be found on your website at time of writing.

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I  currently have no have wish to cancel my purchase at this time. I want what you are selling and am dearly hoping you are a legitimate company.

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However if this information is not provided I will be left with no option but to assume you believe this product to be exempt and that I as your customer have no right to a cooling off period.

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In which case I will be forced to open a can of worms for everyone and contact my credit card company. I have no wish to do this I honestly just want to know my rights and where I stand with your company.

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xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxv4

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P.S: and on a more personal note if hand on your heart you know your legit then chin up I know ya must be working dam hard but these things matter and trust me we your customers want you to succeed. Good luck bud.

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This mail was sent within 24 hours of purchase and the guaranteed shipping date is was stated as the 31 March 2014

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>>
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxv4
>>Subject: Bitcoin Ultra: Order #45 has been processed
>>Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 16:18:32 +0000
>>From: info@bitcoinultra.co.uk
>>
>> Dear xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxv4
>>
>> Your order has been processed successfully.
>>
>> Invoice:

Just received an email from Chris regarding our rights as bitcoinultra customers. Its not exhaustive but its exactly what I was hoping for. This is in a response to a mail I sent over the weekend asking about my rights.

Of course saying something and then doing that are very different things.

I have asked to him if he is happy with me sharing the information in the email and when the go a head is given will post it up. 

I also asked about and estimated time frame that we could expect pictures.

Still I think it would serve him far better to come on here and participate as delivering  important communications to a customer base should not be by word of mouth in my opinion. 

Personally feeling a little more hopeful and will just have to see this develop.

Could this be the greatest weakness of bitcoin ? By this I don't mean Gavin but the fact the foundation is his boss.

The more I learn of the foundation the less I like it.

Buy squid. You'll thank me one day.

That is definitely a model that could work and also negates the need for the foundation. It does not yet exist sadly.

I believe with the smarts of this community we should be able to pick and choose from an array of ideas to fix this. Just need to get their creative juices flowing. More importantly once a solution is found action must be taken to make it happen.

Mostly on btc and mining hardware yes and I do hope that's OK with you.

Its an ugly world out there full of all shades of grey not just black and white buddy.

This  

However the Bitcoin dev team do need to be paid for their work. The foundation fills this role and is the only working model we have ( to my knowledge)

That does not mean this model is not broken and not potentially rotten at its core.

Do we have another model for ensuring the development of bitcoin may continue without the foundation?

If we don't and no one comes up with a better one then we fully deserve any repercussions that may result from the foundations actions now and in the future.  

Yea because voting in most democratic countries has worked out real well for the common man's personal finances.

Edit: Not bashing Democracy.

“Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
― Benjamin Franklin

As a Brit it irks me I had to post an American quote   but yea what this dude said.

If the bitcoin foundation or any organisation was able to do as the OP said I would drop Bitcoin in a second.

I wholeheartedly agree with this post and while its painful as hell to say it yes I played a large part in the loss of my coins and I do not expect someone else to fix my mistake.

I do however expect law enforcement to at least pretend they give a shit since I pay my taxs. If the stock market got robbed they would be crawling all over the place well my little exchange just got robbed for 0.5 bil ow.. what was that?... ah I see btc are not real sorry to bother you police officer I'll let you get back to catching people braking the speed limit on this deserted road.

Until there is fear of punishment these exchanges can just rake in the cash until something goes wrong then stroll off into the sunset.

Or maybe the dude just pick this cap up at some random store because the sun was in his eyes and he couldn't be sure he wouldn't cause a rail accident while operation the morning service with inpared vision.

Its called taking some responsibility and I applaud him for it because trains are serious business.

Edit: I stand corrected from the angle of the sun we can assume its well past the morning service.

Was going to take a little look at this service so was wanting to ask you why you vouched for them?

Interested as a potential customer.

You could say its a statement of free will and an open door to learn the hard way.

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