Because people don't know how to take their arguments off of a thread like this and to a different Meta thread.
It is split quite evenly, yes. Unfortunately it's going to take a while to think of a solution that will satisfy most people.
Well I would think a good starting point would be to get rid of selling accounts. Wouldn't that put reasonable doubt into the trust equation? How would this help and how is it enforcable? Even if account sales were banned people would just sell them offsite and it will give others a false sense of security. Problem is, how do you moderate account selling?
Ban when IP changes? Nope. No way in hell, people have IP changes all the time.
And in reality, that's really the only way. There's no easy way to track accounts changing hands, unless you're the NSA.
It's not and would be incredibly difficult and a waste of time to police, hence why it is currently allowed. Problem is, how do you moderate account selling?
Ban when IP changes? Nope. No way in hell, people have IP changes all the time.
And in reality, that's really the only way. There's no easy way to track accounts changing hands, unless you're the NSA.
Well, IMHO, I suppose that if everybody starts to put accounts sellers & traders as exclusions on their own trust lists maybe this could try to discourage such activities. Just food for thought You're free to do that but unless they've demonstrated untrustworthy behaviour I don't think they should be treated this way as account selling isn't against the rules. In fact, BadBear recently added Quickseller to his trust list. Personally, I'm not against account selling if people involved behave responsably and i can live with it till such practice is allowed by forum rules. However, i'm not sure if i could trust a user who engagé in such trades specially if such people engage in trading hacked account or used to sell it to scammers, etc. I don't judge Others if they may trust such people since they may know them better. I just put forward my tought. You're free to do that but unless they've demonstrated untrustworthy behaviour I don't think they should be treated this way as account selling isn't against the rules. In fact, BadBear recently added Quickseller to his trust list. To be fair, I think he deserved it. Quickseller has been looking out for hacked accounts, scams and has been leaving good feedback at all times. In effect such a type of situation may worry me a lot since i cannot say if if i could trust a user engaged in trading hacked accounts or selling accounts to scammers. Just as i may not trust someone who give out too many good feedbacks (but maybe He's only a lucky trader who meet only honest people). However, I was not to single out him...i was just thinking about the situation since infact is all a matter of trust. Because people don't know how to take their arguments off of a thread like this and to a different Meta thread.
It is split quite evenly, yes. Unfortunately it's going to take a while to think of a solution that will satisfy most people.
Well I would think a good starting point would be to get rid of selling accounts. Wouldn't that put reasonable doubt into the trust equation? How would this help and how is it enforcable? Even if account sales were banned people would just sell them offsite and it will give others a false sense of security. Problem is, how do you moderate account selling?
Ban when IP changes? Nope. No way in hell, people have IP changes all the time.
And in reality, that's really the only way. There's no easy way to track accounts changing hands, unless you're the NSA.
It's not and would be incredibly difficult and a waste of time to police, hence why it is currently allowed. Problem is, how do you moderate account selling?
Ban when IP changes? Nope. No way in hell, people have IP changes all the time.
And in reality, that's really the only way. There's no easy way to track accounts changing hands, unless you're the NSA.
Well, IMHO, I suppose that if everybody starts to put accounts sellers & traders as exclusions on their own trust lists maybe this could try to discourage such activities. Just food for thought You're free to do that but unless they've demonstrated untrustworthy behaviour I don't think they should be treated this way as account selling isn't against the rules. In fact, BadBear recently added Quickseller to his trust list. Personally, I'm not against account selling if people involved behave responsably and i can live with it till such practice is allowed by forum rules. However, i'm not sure if i could trust a user who engagé in such trades specially if such people engage in trading hacked account or used to sell it to scammers, etc. I don't judge Others if they may trust such people since they may know them better. I just put forward my tought. You're free to do that but unless they've demonstrated untrustworthy behaviour I don't think they should be treated this way as account selling isn't against the rules. In fact, BadBear recently added Quickseller to his trust list. To be fair, I think he deserved it. Quickseller has been looking out for hacked accounts, scams and has been leaving good feedback at all times. In effect such a type of situation may worry me a lot since i cannot say if if i could trust a user engaged in trading hacked accounts or selling accounts to scammers. Just as i may not trust someone who give out too many good feedbacks (but maybe He's only a lucky trader who meet only honest people). However, I was not to single out him...i was just thinking about the situation since infact is all a matter of trust. You're free to do that but unless they've demonstrated untrustworthy behaviour I don't think they should be treated this way as account selling isn't against the rules. In fact, BadBear recently added Quickseller to his trust list. To be fair, I think he deserved it. Quickseller has been looking out for hacked accounts, scams and has been leaving good feedback at all times. I don't dispute that. He seems to know the rules better than most as well. As I said before myself, I have noting against the rules or Quickseller in particular, but i think everyone should reflect on how much you can trust people engaged in account trading in particular if they are trading hacked accounts or selling established account to scammers or leaving too many good feedbacks. IMHO, I'm not so confident to be able to trust enough the judgement of such a kind of users. |
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scusate ma il pagamento lo richiedete in doge o altro, volevo provare cryptopay, ma devo inserire la mail della registrazione a cryptopay?
Io finché dura la possibilità di farsi pagare in Dogecoin resto fedele a quella. Cryptopay non la considero proprio al momento, mi trovo bene con i DOGE e li rimango. |
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@MacAndSwiss : You will be carried to next period.  hilariousandco is the new campaign maintainer. His timezone is very different from forum time, so give him time to do it. Besides, he is more trusted and is in the forum much earlier than me. Good luck!P.S. He will post here soon! ~~MZ~~ Good luck to you too! I think You have done a good job here.  |
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ammettiamo che non hanno disponibili 60gh/s ma che ne hanno 10/20 qualcosa mineranno oppure e tutta una finta?
No, quelli che minano penso che minano veramente, non credo che quella sia una finta. Su uno dei topic internazioali è stato postato l'URL di una webcam di una farm cinese di cointellect. Se non sbaglio è ancora da dimostrare che sia effettivamente roba loro. O è stato accertato nel frattempo ? I dubbi comunque rimangono però è anche vero che nessuno vieterebbe a cointellect di usare la loro potenza collegato ad un diverso da quello pubblico.  Vero, ma il discorso è in realtà un po' più complesso, queste macchine avranno un costo, l'elettricità, l'affitto dei locali, il raffreddamento, ecc. Sommando tutto questo anche se avessero effettivamente più di 60 gigahash a disposizione non potrebbero pagare quello che pagano (e anche se fosse tutto gratis). L'ipotesi che siano finti nasce appunto da questo, non vedo altre spiegazioni plausibili. Comunque questi sono discorsi che si ripetono ciclicamente in questo thread e non portano a nulla. Il sistema è e rimane rischioso. Infatti sono sempre gli stessi dubbi che mi attanagliano...cmq se si è consapevoli che il sistema è e rimane rischioso e si valuta bene la propria situazione e se e/o quanto ci si può permettere di rischiare si dovrebbe comunque essere abbastanza preparati per l'inevitabile. Just my 2 satoshi |
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How do I setup a signature campaign?
A good place to start is this thread: ===>>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0You need to pick a campaign who's ready to accept users of your rank, then read its rules, post your application & put the required signature ad, then start posting in a constructive manner (no spam/no inconstistent posting) and abiding to forum rules (read it before!). |
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Certo che era chiaro che il minato non pou' avere un simile ritorno, il punto e cosa stanno minando, perche le shares vengono accettate; Poi se stacco il mio hardware da Cointellect sono scelte personali.
La pool punta (o puntava fino a poco fa) a Dogecoin, lo scopri facilmente guardando l'hash dell'ultimo blocco trovato indicato dal miner e confrontandolo con quelli elencati su dogechain.info, vedrai che corrispondono perfettamente quindi si mina effettivamente doge. ma qualcosa di sicuro la stanno minando, sarebbe sciocco non usare tutta quella potenza
Il punto è che la potenza indicata è verosimilmente fasulla, 60 gigahash nel periodo in cui la pool nton funziona è assurdo, dovrebbe essere tutta potenza loro, e anche collegata ad un indirizzo diverso da quello pubblico, cosa di cui dubito fortemente. ammettiamo che non hanno disponibili 60gh/s ma che ne hanno 10/20 qualcosa mineranno oppure e tutta una finta?
Su uno dei topic internazioali è stato postato l'URL di una webcam di una farm cinese di cointellect. I don't think they could run that easy. Moreover, you saw office picture / videos with the people working in that company. they have a verified paypal and banking accounts where the money is going through. I found access to 1 camera of the mining center : http://dc.cointellect.com/I dubbi comunque rimangono però è anche vero che nessuno vieterebbe a cointellect di usare la loro potenza collegato ad un diverso da quello pubblico. |
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Problem is, how do you moderate account selling?
Ban when IP changes? Nope. No way in hell, people have IP changes all the time.
And in reality, that's really the only way. There's no easy way to track accounts changing hands, unless you're the NSA.
Well, IMHO, I suppose that if everybody starts to put accounts sellers & traders as exclusions on their own trust lists maybe this could try to discourage such activities. Just food for thought |
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Is there any way for a user to tell who is ignoring them? I mean, besides the fact nobody has anything to say to my comments, that is.
I'm used to being ignored IRL, but IRL it is quite clear when it happens.
I'm not sure if I can tell if I'm not welcome or not in here.
I don't know if such a button exist; however, IMHO you should care less if you're "welcome or not in here" and just live your own life here continuing to contribute in a constructive way to community. Just my 2 satoshi! |
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Russian Standard Vodka and Orange Juice  +1 Canadian Standard Vodka and Orange Juice Just drank Italian-produced Orange Juice.  |
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Actual Total time logged in: 12 days, 14 hours and 2 minutes.
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Hello people, I got a really important question(s), is it worth to vest my $100k into bitcoins now? I am planning to let them for 6-12 months, would I get any profit on it? Tell me honestly, thank you.
IMHO if you really can afford to lose $100000 parking them on BTC You can do it but if you wish to do an investment for only 6-12 months you may be better to find out some other investment - e.g. bonds & treasury bills with a duration less than 6/12 months, or doing some intra-day trading on currency and commodities (more risky) - to begin with. If you wish you could reserve a small part of your portfolio (for me is about 1-2% of the total portfolio value) to intra-day trading on currency and commodities (you may include some BTC trading in it). Just my 2 satoshi |
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Hi,
Happy new year!!!
My account is banned for more than 2 month, If the admins agree, I ask you please unbanned my account.
Thank you
What is your username? What were you banned for initially? How many times were you previously banned? My account is CoinGamez. And I was banned for one time for 1) Using ads and banners out of signature part. 2) Impatient to wait 7 days. I accept that some of I done was wrong. I do apologize again for that. So if I am understanding you correctly you were banned for having spammy advertisements in your service announcement posts (or other posts), the ban was for 7 days. You got "impatient" and created a new account that you used to evade your ban. Then when you were caught ban evading you were permanently banned. IIRC your posts contained a lot of spammy pictures/ads. I think this was to the point that a mod needed to edit posts on your behalf. You seem sincere but ban evading is breaking a very serious rule. Idk if they will lift it or not. Everything you said was right. I did break unintentionally and inadvertently the rules of the forums. I respect the decision of the admins. But I would ask them to reconsider about it. Thank you and no one was removed (even if some may have started begging moderators & admins pity to be unbanned); so, as happen to us, You may have to wait the end of your ban period, before having your last chance to follow the rules. Since you have already got at least your 3 days, 7 days, bans before the actual one I don't think you have much chances of having your actual ban removed by Admins or Mods before it expiry date. Live long & prosper!  Thanks very much Grand_Voyageur for your logical and wise answer. But how did you checked my least ban period days? I asking because shorena said "NO" they will not lift it. I'm a little bit confused!!! You welcome. Wiseness Always came with a price. I didn't check your last ban period day but as I said before "We have all had our fair share of bans in our early days" so I know the ban length is incremental - e.g. more bans you got, more the next ban will last (up to permaban). Maybe I wasn't so clear before; but, I may agree with shorena, You're going to have the ban lifted before its expiry date. However, It's my humble opionion since final decision rest with Admins & Mods and AFAIK no one previously got their ban removed before its expiry date. |
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You can backup/restore your personal trust list simply by copy/pasting into notepad (for windows). You don't need any kind of exporter/importer.
Actually I used this solution; but, I'm not a big fan of the huge copy&paste due to the heavy workload imposed on my aging notebook RAM & CPU since I used to do a lot of multiple tasks at the same time (multiple sw instances working & quite a few internet browsers pages open at the same time). Importing directly the list in the Trust setting would really help my experience (as well the ones of people in similar situation). |
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I am will to work with my list on this thread one by one.
@ Mr Teal
this is what I did not understand and it has now become an issue with the promotion to the default list.
Agreed. As people are talking about changes to the default trust list, for those on level one of default trust it might make sense to have two separate lists. You might still want to keep your list, as you said you've worked on it for years. That doesn't mean you would want everyone on it to be lvl2 trust. If you had a separate list that was just for promotion to level 2, you could keep your existing list for your own personal trust, and add users as you see fit to the list where you trust their judgement enough to allow them to give trusted feedback to others. At Mr Teal you are correct: A) I did business and it worked list B)I would trust this person with my wallet list so to speak Would be a better system. For now I will be leaving all trusts. I will be removing some from the trust list. second person on my default list is CrazyGuy-- he stays. third person is Unacceptable --------------------he stays. fourth person is kano -----------------------------he stays. fifth person is champbronc2----------------------he goes. sixth is cablez ------------------------------------ he stays. seventh is davecoin ------------------------------ he stays. eighth is RicRock --------------------------------- he goes. ninith is Delarock ---------------------------------he goes. tenth is iluvpcs ------------------------------------ he stays. 11th crashoveride54902 -------------------------- stays 12th stunna --------------------------------------- stays 13th lazlopanaflex --------------------------------stay 14th ssinc ------------------------------------------ goes 15th razorfishsl ------------------------------------goes 16th btceic ----------------------------------------- goes 17th Swimmer63 ----------------------------------- stays 18th buysolar --------------------------------------- stays 19th SilentSonicBoom ------------------------------ stays 20th tookdk ----------------------------------------- stays 21st jc328 ------------------------------------------ goes 22nd Chris_Sabian---------------------------------- goes 23rd DefaultTrust ----------------------------------- I believe this has to stay?24th klintay ----------------------------------------- goes 25th stex2009 -------------------------------------- stays 26th boldar ------------------------------------------ goes 27th de_ixie ------------------------------------------ goes 28th Stratobitz --------------------------------------- stays 29th evilpanda --------------------------------------- goes 30th Blazedout419 ----------------------------------- stays 31st btcxcg -------------------------------------------- goes 32nd bronxnua ---------------------------------------- goes don't understand why he was on the list
33rd tripppon ----------------------------------------- goes 34th xZork --------------------------------------------- goes 35th crocko -------------------------------------------- goes 36th mchu168 ------------------------------------------ goes 37th itsrealfast ------------------------------------------ goes 38th Albertdroid ----------------------------------------- goes 39th MoreBloodWine ------------------------------------- stays 40th BITMAIN -------------------------------------------- stays watch for misspelled versions of it. 41st CoinGeneral ---------------------------------------- goes 42nd dance191 ------------------------------------------- goes 43rd crowetic --------------------------------------------- stays 44th dyland ----------------------------------------------- goes 45th pcfli -------------------------------------------------- stays be careful of misspelled versions 46th Diddyu ----------------------------------------------- goes 47th Zoomhash_michael --------------------------------- Stays 48th RockDaddy ------------------------------------------ goes 49th SDRebel ----------------------------------------------- stays 50th MunkeySpaz ------------------------------------------ goes 51st Xtra7973 --------------------------------------------- goes I suppose You could prune DefaultTrust from your list if You don't feel confident enough about the judgements made by the people who are in it. Also IMHO if You don't understand why bronxnua or any other forum member is on Your trust list/s probably it would better to prune them from it. However, kudos to You for trying to keep your personal trust list up-to-date since being in DefaultTrust is a privilege with a lot of responsability since you're helping provide the community with an important service. Did I just witness someone being pressured by other forum members to delete half of his trust list? It's his trust and his responsibility.
"I don't think he should continue to be at depth 1 if he refuses to be more selective with his trust list" = you should kick some people from your trust or we'll have you kicked you from default.
Soon when someone gets added to default trust we'll have a crowd asking for the right to vote him out.
Yeah that annoyed me,it was also worded really too hard. But It did bring my understanding to the level it should be at. I will most likely do a few more changes in it. It's good that you were able to adapt to the requests of the community. Every default trust member should be like you. . As I have said before kudos to him for it. |
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the possibility to upload a ASCII a box to upload a trust list from an ASCII text file to expedite the maintenance of our personal trust lists? I would be against this. It would no longer be "your personal" trust list, but someone else's personal trust list. If you use other people maintaned lists i may agree with you, but IF You have a text file back-up of your own list as me OR IF as me you used a text file to do my maintenance (and also to put in the usernames of the members i met in person - i.e. in fact a memory helper task) is ONLY a resources/time-saving way of doing your forum housekeeping. Maybe is not an option to be made available to a n00b but only for more established members (Full Members/Sr. Members or up?) but i think it may be very helpful. Just my 2 satoshi |
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Hi,
Happy new year!!!
My account is banned for more than 2 month, If the admins agree, I ask you please unbanned my account.
Thank you
What is your username? What were you banned for initially? How many times were you previously banned? My account is CoinGamez. And I was banned for one time for 1) Using ads and banners out of signature part. 2) Impatient to wait 7 days. I accept that some of I done was wrong. I do apologize again for that. So if I am understanding you correctly you were banned for having spammy advertisements in your service announcement posts (or other posts), the ban was for 7 days. You got "impatient" and created a new account that you used to evade your ban. Then when you were caught ban evading you were permanently banned. IIRC your posts contained a lot of spammy pictures/ads. I think this was to the point that a mod needed to edit posts on your behalf. You seem sincere but ban evading is breaking a very serious rule. Idk if they will lift it or not. Everything you said was right. I did break unintentionally and inadvertently the rules of the forums. I respect the decision of the admins. But I would ask them to reconsider about it. Thank you We have all had our fair share of bans in our early days and no one was removed (even if some may have started begging moderators & admins pity to be unbanned); so, as happen to us, You may have to wait the end of your ban period, before having your last chance to follow the rules. Since you have already got at least your 3 days, 7 days, bans before the actual one I don't think you have much chances of having your actual ban removed by Admins or Mods before it expiry date. Live long & prosper! |
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The common consensus seems to be that the trust system is specifically in place to help newbies not get scammed but the reality is that 99% of the newbies that come to this board have no idea what the trust system is and how it works. There is nothing about it in Beginners section and throwing a screen at them and forcing to choose from members they have never heard of/interacted with isn't going to help either. Even to this day I'm not 100% how the depths work and who gets to be on DefaultTrust. How is a newbie going to know?
There should be a concerted effort to educate newbies on how Trust works and how to set up the list properly if newbie scam prevention is really the goal.
+1. As I said in my previous posts ( 1, 2, 3, 4), while I like some of the improvement theymos brought to us, I was really concerned about the user-unfriendly results of having few guidelines & helps in the points an user used the most. Some people are lazy for sure, but if needed informations are not readily available the Whole (any) system is useless. |
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