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1261  Other / Meta / Re: ban appeal!! on: January 09, 2015, 07:13:56 PM
Isn't it likely it was this loan that caused you to make the low-quality posts in the first place? Will you not just do the same again? I'm sure Marco will understand with the loan and he's in charge of the signature campaign you're on so I think you'll be ok but I think you'll likely have to just wait out the ban.
i wouldent i learned my lessen i cant wait 30days i just cant

the first warning i got was because some guy reported me for something

but please i dont wont to be in a bad situation,make it this my last warning please just remove the 30 days!

We have all had our fair share of bans in our early days and no one was removed (even if some may have started begging moderators & admins pity to be unbanned); so, as happen to us, You have to wait the end of your ban period, before having your last chance to follow the rules.
Admins & mods already said what they said to you; so, you've to live with it.

Live long & prosper!
 Cool
1262  Other / Meta / Re: Lock my account please (RiverBoatBTC) on: January 09, 2015, 06:56:06 PM
He asked me to buy his account.

would you buy my account?

Wow, great service you're running there, informing the admin about all the accounts you don't buy I see. I'll be telling everyone to stay away.

That account wasn't hacked anymore btw, me and the original owner had come to an agreement that I could keep it. You could've sent a warning about the spam before banning too.

I'm sorry but I'm thinking your story is not credible, sound like you're bipolar, since you wrote: "me and the original owner had come to an agreement that I could keep it." Really not credible! In real life such an Agreement means you surrender to hacker demands usually involving
some bucks (or maybe BTC), so why making the OP and involving Admins & community to have back your account for free if you were willing pay the hacker? Not credible at all. A better excuse would be you claiming to be a bipolar subject and provide medical evidence of it.

(I unlocked this thread because I don't think it's resolved)

Assuming the real RiverBoatBTC is being honest (as in he isn't faking the hack, which would be easy to do), the most likely situation given the evidence is that the account was and still is compromised, and then the Riverboatbtchacked account was also compromised. He then posted here saying he recovered it to avoid the negative feedback (and that post which he deleted, at least the way he said he recovered it, is a lie as theymos pointed out).  

The current holder of the account, after getting several of his trolling posts deleted, probably decided it would be better to just post and make money from sig campaigns, instead of trolling and getting banned and it being deleted anyway.

I second BadBear statement.
1263  Other / Meta / Re: Replacing DefaultTrust on: January 09, 2015, 06:16:45 PM
I saw that some people liked the idea that I said here ,so I made a new thread to get more intention about it with more few changes , it's an open discussion , just say what do you think  : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=918798.0;viewResults .

~ Madness

I have already casted my vote there; nevertheless thank you for your reminder!  Wink

Any trust system that'll do the trick of actually preventing a relevant number of scams will have to "work just out of the box" for a newbie.
Why not just cut out the middle man and get rid of default trust, red and green, and just let users comment on trust profiles.
Sure, why not? I'm okay with that.
Although I don't really see the point in such a system at all. It won't help a newbie.
I've said it before and I will repeat it over and over again, the trust system is not for me or you, it should help newbies to be less likely victims of potential scammers.

Any trust system will have to be measured by the number of scams it prevents.

+1. As I said myself before, more established member have learned their way up to avoid potential scams; but a trust system real benefit is to protect vulnerable new user like the newbies.
1264  Other / Meta / Re: Replacing DefaultTrust on: January 09, 2015, 01:12:07 PM
I cast my vote on the "keep DefaultTrust list" side since, even with the known problems, it offers more protection to new users. However, I would like to see some of the new features Theymos brought to us like:

  • the check box to inject extra users in personal trust lists (hopefully a similar way to also prune it of no more trusted members) to tailor-custom our own list.
  • I would also like a box to upload a trust list from an ASCII text file to expedite the maintenance of my list (I keep an ASCI *.TXT file with my list od trusted members and untrusted member i wish to exclude them from my trust network - e.g. as to avoid cases like the well known MagicalTux who remain in the DefaultTrust due to an unpruned trust list of a member).
  • Also having the possibility of using jointly both the DefaultTrust and our own list would expand our options for security while ranking up (and learning our responsabilities of more established forum members).



You can already exclude users, which would have solved the magicaltux issue, and you can already use default trust along with your own list.



I don't really use the trust list as a list of people I implicitly trust, or know, or have traded with, though some of those are on there, it's just a list of people whose feedback I value more than others.

I'm still learning & experimenting with the exclusion & addition and by this way i put a piece on the magicaltux issue. I cannot feel however established enough to have only a personal trust list. My reservation are about the forced future scrapping on DefaultTrust who will make things worse for new/not established enough users. I would like some user-friendly improvments theymos worked out and some other addition like a way to upload a list of mine by an ASCII text-file.
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it's just a list of people whose feedback I value more than others.
+1. 
1265  Other / Meta / Re: philipma1957 and default trust on: January 09, 2015, 12:52:18 PM
I believe theymos/Badbear is seeing this. Shouldn't they be removed from DefaultTrust list if they're refusing to correct their list?

   ~~MZ~~

+1. Keeping your own list regularly pruned & updated must be a conditio sine qua non to be in any trust list. DefaultTrust or personal one doesn't matter.
1266  Other / Meta / Re: Replacing DefaultTrust on: January 09, 2015, 12:46:09 PM
Well, no matter what the trust system will look like in the future, the more I think about it, I'd like to see the user-edited trust list go away.

Most people just don't understand that you don't put users whom you trust in your trust list, but rather users where you believe that they maintain a good trust list themselves. This has been a problem from the start and it probably won't ever be a non-problem.

Get rid of the trust list! Now. Angry

Getting rid the trust list is not a solution in my view since IF the problem is, as you say "Most people just don't understand that you don't put users whom you trust in your trust list, but rather users where you believe that they maintain a good trust list themselves. This has been a problem from the start" the only way to solve it is to educate members in using it in the right way. As I said before more guideline available to explain how to use feedbacks & trust list. Personally I would put in my trust list ONLY a member that I had known in person/he is a close friend or associate and I trust him as myself (or more) preferably after I have had a succesful large number of high-value transactions AND/OR over long period of association.
But IF you asked me to do this as a Brand New/Newbie or even a few weeks ago i definitely had to random monkey-checking some flag insted of using the DefaultTrust while trying to understand the mechanics of the forum/trust/feedbacks.

So don't get rid of the Baby with the water! Keep the DefaultTrust but explain better how to use/create trust-lists.

1267  Other / Meta / Re: Replacing DefaultTrust on: January 09, 2015, 11:07:59 AM
I cast my vote on the "keep DefaultTrust list" side since, even with the known problems, it offers more protection to new users. However, I would like to see some of the new features Theymos brought to us like:

  • the check box to inject extra users in personal trust lists (hopefully a similar way to also prune it of no more trusted members) to tailor-custom our own list.
  • I would also like a box to upload a trust list from an ASCII text file to expedite the maintenance of my list (I keep an ASCI *.TXT file with my list od trusted members and untrusted member i wish to exclude them from my trust network - e.g. as to avoid cases like the well known MagicalTux who remain in the DefaultTrust due to an unpruned trust list of a member).
  • Also having the possibility of using jointly both the DefaultTrust and our own list would expand our options for security while ranking up (and learning our responsabilities of more established forum members).


First, in forums where the trust list is visible it might be handy to have a "Trust User" and "Exclude User" button added.
This would be a nice thing to have. Adding someone to my trust list is a bit of a hassle. Not much, but having two buttons, makes it a lot easier.

Somewhat related to both systems, is it worth investigating an additional level(s) of feedback in the system? Currently there's not really a difference between "This person is acting in a sketchy/slimy way, I don't trust them" and "This person stole 100BTC from me" in the numerical ratings. If people used it properly a separate rating for personality conflicts / general sleaziness as opposed to a full negative scammer rating might see the system used more. I can think of many people I wouldn't personally buy from / do business with / trust, but I don't want to leave negative feedback for given the gravity of it. I have my doubts such a thing would be used properly and personality issues still wouldn't just garner the same 9999BTC risked "This guy is a scammer!1!! He was mean to me in my for sale thread!!1!" feedback we see now.
I think this is very idea. #bitcoin-otc has -10 to 10 as rating possibility and it helps a lot.

You know someone in person, you two are friends and you would trust him/her with your life? +10. You did a small trade? +1. You don't trust this user because of personality? -1. See Rating guidelines for more. I often feel that a negative is too harsh, so I go back to neutral, even though that doesn't fully reflect my opinion about someone.

I really think their guideline are helpful to assist people give the appropriate weight to their feedback. As an example IF i do "One or two good transactions" or if  I had "a number of good transactions" with a forum member i could leave a Neutral feedback since I cannot guarantee him/her is not simply doing smaller transactions to build up his/her reputation before doing a bigger SCAM; but if I know a member in person, he is a close friend or associate and I trust him as myself (or more) I would definitively trust a Positive (green) one; the same if I had a succesful "large number of high-value transactions (more of the BTC equivalent of 10$/month) over long period of association" since i can consider such a member very trustworthy. I may give Negative (Red) if the other two case, but if the one with lesser guilt - e.g. the "Person strikes you as a bit flaky. Unreasonable/unexpected delays in payment, etc." improve his/her behaviour, pay his debt, contribute meangiful to community and so on I may revert the judgement to Neutral to leave it as reminder for Others - however SCAMMERS will remain struck with their Negative judgements.
Also stressing more the need to protect themselves from possible frauds maybe with a sticky topic as well as with a link in Trust settings AND/OR near the new feedback box, similar to their avoiding fraud guidelines could be an idea worth to be evaluated.

Moreover users would be forced to evaluate each option every time they wanted to view a new thread, and while I'm not speaking for everybody, I'm pretty damn lazy and would probably just end up clicking the 3 check boxes that happened to be closest to my mouse pointer, resulting in totally random Trust ratings displayed within that thread.

You're only redirected to this page one time, when you first try to view a trust-enabled topic as a new member. It's for setting up your initial trust list.

I don't think like Others said before that a Newbie/Jr.Member know enough to bother themselves about customizing his trust list. However, I would like a more advanced trust-setting panel as I'm becoming a more established and knownledgable user to start doing some advanced customization of my list (but I still use DefaultTrust and integrate it with my own addictions/exclusions). I think a Member/Full Member/Sr. Member level would be more appropriate than a Brand New/Newbie have to custom build his list as soon as he make his first post in a Marketplace. Doing so may require to segregate also new users to a n00bs trollbox to allow the same level of actual protection if using the new system as proposed instead of the DefaultTrust.
1268  Other / Meta / Re: How to report hacked accounts? on: January 09, 2015, 10:22:01 AM
Hi!

My old account 'daybyter' got hacked and I have lots of problems to report this hack to an admin. No mail addy, nothing. How to report such an incident properly?

Thanks in adance,
Andreas

If your account was hacked you must follow the instructions provided in the Recovering hacked accounts or accounts with lost passwords topic.
 Wink
1269  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Definition of mBTC an uBTC on: January 09, 2015, 10:07:17 AM
I think already many people explained and OP not come back. So, how about report to mod for lock this thread

+1. OP was last active on August 14, 2012 at 03:57:52 PM. So, probably he/she opted to re-enroll in Primary School to learn back Math (SI abbreviation in particular); so, while we wait OP to finish educate his/herself, It would be fair to have a Moderator lock this thread for good.
1270  Other / Meta / Re: My account was hacked (segvec) on: January 09, 2015, 09:35:58 AM

If your account was really hacked you must follow the instructions provided in the Recovering hacked accounts or accounts with lost passwords topic.
I think ban or lock would not handed over by Admins over a hack, in particular with a simple request in the Meta thread like your.
1271  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think 1.00 BTC will worth more than $10,000.00 USD at any time in 2015? on: January 09, 2015, 09:00:40 AM
Do you think 1.00 BTC will worth more than $10,000.00 USD at any time in 2015?

NO. I think will be very hard for BTC to reach even 1000$ by the end of 2015. However, i would be very happy to see the quotation you hope.
1272  Other / Off-topic / Re: Don't try to format a partition of the usb on: January 09, 2015, 07:08:43 AM
 Shocked
Really bad luck. However, You should have kept your coin wallets in a USB device you used only for them (to avoid the need for partitioning/formatting the device). Also, You should consider to have an additional USB device to back-up the primary one who store your coins.
It's very sad you have to learn it the hard way.
1273  Other / Meta / Re: BadBear banned on: January 09, 2015, 06:54:09 AM
how can we ban the BadBear! He is gay like my father

You cannot ban him; however, homophobic words are not going to help you for sure.

Keep in mind.
OP is pretending he was hacked, because he scammed someone and he wants to burn this account.

Thank you. More details about such issues are always appreciated.

Voted yes. Badbear, more like terriblebear amirite?
Voted yes. Badbear, more like terriblebear amirite?

I'm just waiting for someone else to vote He ate me out  Grin

It's really a difficult choice i need to turn to dices to decide on what I should cast my vote!  Grin
1274  Local / Gambling (Italiano) / Re: [ITA] BikiniDice - Cerchiamo investitori per Gambling avviato on: January 08, 2015, 09:27:49 PM
Sono arrivati i russi in chat. Ho provato a tradurre con Google Translate.

(14:59) Sanyasyskov: sito paga
(15:22) wladik: loro vvodil..i dedotto
(15:31) Sanyasyskov: wladik non posso dedurre ha Depaz e la barba
(15:32) wladik: cosa si entra?
(15:35) wladik: ho buttato i cani ieri nel 1300 e ha segnato 20, e poi portato il suo sinistro e 20 sul gioco
(02:28) 515130: perché no profit da rinvii
(16,28) Sanyasyskov: c'è profitto Rif
(16:29) Sanyasyskov: tutto ok tutto portato sito Krut
(19,27) 565214: Il sito paga?


Esilarante Cheesy

...e questo è il seguito:

(21:24) 515130: che significa la perdita di un giocatore?


(21:24) 515130: Tipo ho perdita di neigrok e non vado a rinvio


(21:24) 515130: così gli amministratori hanno risposto

 Grin
1275  Local / Mining (Italiano) / Re: Cointeler POOL per minare SCRYPT on: January 08, 2015, 07:27:18 PM
Mi è arrivato in questo momento il pagamento, richiesto ieri pomeriggio alle 18  Grin

Arrivato adesso il pagamento, richiesto 13 ore fa.
Mi è andata abbastanza bene rispetto a chi ha richiesto il pagamento ieri.
 Grin
1276  Other / Off-topic / Re: Post your Total time logged into Bitcointalk on: January 06, 2015, 10:32:25 AM
Total time logged in: 11 days, 20 hours and 59 minutes.



You're Beyond our reach!  Cheesy
1277  Local / Mining (Italiano) / Re: Cointeler POOL per minare SCRYPT on: January 06, 2015, 10:10:16 AM
anche a me a ripreso a pieno regime
hai parlato troppo presto vai a vedere adesso, tutto down a me... da circa 1 ora, sembra che durante le feste i loro miner non lavorino...o che la connessione sia in regime di "programmate ferie sindacali"... incredibile!!!

una nota OT: spero che abbiate fatto i prelievi ieri sera, quandi i doges erano bassi sull'EURO (trainati giù dal BTC), un bel cashout di DOGES di ieri è valso il 25% in più rispetto a 5 giorni fa.

A me va regolarmente da stamani alle 5:00...ma per la nottata non saprei dirti.  Cool
1278  Economy / Services / Re: ★☆★ Bitin.io » Instant Cryptocoin Exchange! » Accountless » Sig/Pm Campaign on: January 06, 2015, 10:04:54 AM
did not received my last payout on sunday so i leave this signature campaign

but i am still in your Personal Message Campaign


Personal Advertising Message ONLY: 0.00001 BTC per constructive post. 20 Posts min per week.

I have not received my last payout too; however, it seems MZ have not yet processed this payout round.
I'll wait a statement from him or lightlord before leaving Bitin.io P.MSG advertising.
1279  Local / Off-Topic (Italiano) / Re: Topic di Benvenuto/Presentazioni on: January 05, 2015, 08:12:13 PM
Ciao a tutti, da oggi ci sono anche io in questa community anche se uso i BTC  da più di un' anno.

Benvenuto!  Smiley
1280  Local / Mining (Italiano) / Re: Cointeler POOL per minare SCRYPT on: January 04, 2015, 01:08:48 PM
quando si investe non bisogna mai pentirsi, senno tanto vale non investire

Io non mi pento dell'investimento in se , ma del cambio delle regole in corsa...è ben diverso!

Le regole cambiano in continuazione anche nei contratti in corso...giusto in questi giorni ho ricevuto le modifiche unilaterali delle condizioni del mio fondo pensione, della mia carta di credito, dei miei C/C e del conto-titoli. E questo succede ogni pochi mesi (all'incirca ogni trimestre).  Wink
Anche se a me - come a te - può non piacere, non ci posso fare niente se non cambiare Fondo Pensione, Carta di Credito, Banca, ecc..
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