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Selamlar saygıdeğer Bitcointalk ahalisi; Negatif trust bulunmayan ve imza kampanyalarına katılmamış Hero Member hesabı satıyorum. Orjinal E-mail adresiyle hesabı alıcıya devir edeceğim. Fiyat KDV dahil 469.00 USD'dir. PM'lerinizi bekliyorum. İyi çalışmalar. |
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mods please remove this thread.
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I was wondering what happens if multiple forks happen and you don't bother with moving your coins to access the coins on the other chains? Am I safe by not doing nothing?
For example the Bitcoin Cash hardfork happened, and I have the BCash coins in the BCash chain now, with the same addresses as I have my BTC on the Bitcoin chain.
Now with BGold, I will have coins too on the BGold chain, on the same addresses as the Bitcoin chain and BCash chain. So that's 3 different tokens on 3 different blockchains sitting on the same addresses. Is there any problem with that?
Im just waiting for the BGold fork to happen to access my BCash so I only have to move my BTC once. If I access my BCash now, I will need to move my BTC again after the BGold fork. So if I wait I will kill 2 birds with one stone.
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Lol this guy.
Just two days ago he was tweeting that he heard from "trusted sources" that this was just the beginning of the China ban and that things would get much worse from here.
I think we found one of these whales he's talking about...
It doesn't matter though, even if China wasn't planning to ban Bitcoin initially, you can bet your life that they got wind of the influence Bitcoin has with all this drama and they want nothing of it.
So bans ARE in the works, and not only in China, the only thing allowed to be in control and set strict rules are the Governments and banks in these countries, and they are big in numbers.
My prediction is that within a 2-5 year time frame Bitcoin will be illegal in 99% of the worlds countries and only be allowed in Antarctica or some other place where nobody actually lives or does anything with it.
You have to be really naive to think the 0.1% of people holding 99.99% of the worlds wealth will give that up for a silly monopoly money computer program.
This is delusional game theory. 99% of governments have never colluded to do anything, this time it will not be any different. Someone's ban is someone's else gain, meaning that, if a country bans it, another (smarter) country realizes they can now have a bigger piece of the bitcoin pie. What will be fun is when all of the countries that previously banned it realize their mistake and unban it again, pushing the price up further. |
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You should be telling people to hold their keys on any full validating node wallet. I dont care if it's Bitcoin Core, Bitcoin Knots, or Armory, but use a full validating node so you know exactly from what chain you are transacting so you just have to be sure of on what chain you are transacting to. I would recommend to stick to Bitcoin Core to not confuse newbies with other compatible lesser known wallets.
So get your coins off Coinbase or whatever shithole you are holding your coins at, put them into Bitcoin Core's wallet and wait for 25th to arrive. You have enough time to sync your node so I don't want no complains later if you don't do your homework now while you can.
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Hello to everybody,
I have question about chart analysis. Are there any differences betwen chart analysis in traditional stock exchange and crypto exchange? Considering that the crypto exchange is much more emotional in decision making? Can we use exactly the same analysis techniques or do we have to adjust them to our crypto reality? If yes, please give me some tips what I have to change that the analysis would be more accurate.
The main difference is that crypto charts never sleep. Usually markets close, and traditional markets have these stops while crypto markets are active 24/7. Crypto is also much less regulated, so there are lots of scams as well as opportunities to get rich, but only safe coin out there is bitcoin, because you don't risk ending up holding a bag with no liquidity. Both traditional and crypto exchanges trade with fundamentals and technicals on mind. Emotions are also in classic markets. |
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One key point that a lot of people in the bitcoin space don't consider is the fact that you must be making a big mistake dreaming with a doomsday scenario in order to profit from it by holding bitcoin.
There is a certain threshold where civil order is lost, and in that case, your bitcoin will not save you. We have to be careful with what we wish for. Im ok with financial crisis similar to 2008, but be wary of the fact that if it gets worse, it may have an impact on bitcoin itself due hashrate going down from the technical perspective and due your own life being at risk from the obvious perspective of a situation of danger.
I hope that we don't need to see violence for people to understand the importance of holding bitcoin.
Human greed is limitless. When they feel the profit they do not think about what will happen next. The main thing for them now. It seems to me that instead of dreaming about the increase in the price of bitcoin needs to focus on creating conditions for development of trade for bitcoins. It will bring much more benefit. Well, there's people that apparently are addicted to creating discomfort in the world to profit from it. The famous investors George Soros seems to be a guy that thinks the world is his chessboard and he moves certain things to cause a mess and profit from that mess while he is in some comfortable bunker. Im not sure how much of that is conspiracy or how much is true, but im sure the high finance magnates are all psychopaths ready to manipulate the world and cause social damage if it fits his agenda, his agenda being to increase his portfolio. I don't want to be like that, so I hope no one has to suffer a lot in order for me to get rich with bitcoin. |
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i think it may be possible after all!
we have some big FUD coming on and a lot of drama which can be like the past one and cause some downtime but since all of it will end before the year ends and when it ends the price recovers fast, you can expect a big rally afterwards leading to break the $5000 at first and then go above to test the $6000 resistance.
Let's stay strong, and let's keep fighting the good fight against the corporate takeover. Write to all of your exchanges and wallet providers to NOT support the segwit2x hardfork or else threat them with never using their services again and telling all of your friends to do the same with your bitcoins. These bastards will not get away with this. Here's a good read if you don't know what the hell im talking about: https://keepingstock.net/the-corporate-takeover-attempt-of-bitcoin-eb87c18fad60If we get past this, then $10000 is around the corner for 2k18. |
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We need to dont forget iExec RLC. They are considered to be their opponents.
Are all of them competing in the same fields? I know iExec RLC and Golem could be considered competitors, but im not sure about the rest. I have heard a lot of these "shared resources" projects and I like the idea of renting my computing power for something that is actually useful rather than calculate math problems for a PoW blockchain. I think there's a lot of computational power being wasted with Bitcoin. We are actually so protected that we can afford less hashrate and I would like a project like Golem to succeed, but so far I haven't seen much but vaporware so hashrate might as well stay in BTC. |
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One key point that a lot of people in the bitcoin space don't consider is the fact that you must be making a big mistake dreaming with a doomsday scenario in order to profit from it by holding bitcoin.
There is a certain threshold where civil order is lost, and in that case, your bitcoin will not save you. We have to be careful with what we wish for. Im ok with financial crisis similar to 2008, but be wary of the fact that if it gets worse, it may have an impact on bitcoin itself due hashrate going down from the technical perspective and due your own life being at risk from the obvious perspective of a situation of danger.
I hope that we don't need to see violence for people to understand the importance of holding bitcoin.
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Bitcoin's price has jumped today. It was about $4200 yesterday morning, and it's now $4435.
If I was a Catalan I'd be buying bitcoin especially as the Catalan govt has announced it will declare independence on Oct 6th. The financial markets are going to be roiled, so it makes sense for Spanish and Catalans alike to put some money in bitcoin to preserve their savings.
Seriously? I doubt Bitcoin is on anyone's radar in Catalan right now. It's barely scratching the surface of mainstream investment in general. Cryptocurrency may be one of the hottest investments of the year, but it's obviously one of the riskiest asset classes available on the markets from looking at volatility. If I was worried that my savings were in danger due to economic collapse/disruption, I would put them into safe assets like gold and US dollars. Especially considering the recent gains in crypto. Sure, we could see new highs soon, but the price could also drop in half in a few days. It all depends on how easy it is to buy US dollars or gold, isn't it? For the Catalans, not at all - they won't be able to open US dollar bank accounts. Buying gold is hard too - not may places sell gold coins, mostly it is jewelry that is marked up. Some might just withdraw euros and keep them at home in case something happens to the banking system. Buying bitcoin by contrast is easy and quick, and you can simply hide your wallet.dat on a USB stick. Buying bitcoins is rarely "easy and quick" for anyone in the world. Are ATMs (where people get reamed by 10%+ fees) even available there? Wiring money to exchanges takes time and costs transfer / currency exchange fees. And more importantly, there is the knowledge gap. Most Catalans (like everyone else in the world) likely know nothing about Bitcoin. And among those that do, few are technically savvy enough to quickly (and safely) convert their wealth into bitcoins. One doesn't need to open US dollar bank accounts to hold US dollars. And the currency exchange fees must be paid if wiring money to exchanges to buy bitcoins as well. I suspect it is significantly easier to buy gold than bitcoins, just like it is in most places. And this is why you want to learn about bitcoin and have everything ready BEFORE shit hits the fan and everything goes south. Of course you can't wait until the last moment because chances are you will be too nervous and screw up and lose your private keys if you manage to buy. People should start thinking 3 steps ahead and getting bitcoin already instead of wondering "why do I want to hold bitcoin? I dont need it". You never know when your government may be into big trouble, and if that happens, those that think ahead will profit the most. Imagine if you were a Venezuelan and predicted the inflationary nightmare of your government and bought earlier, or when Cyprus had a massive bailout predicting that in beforehand and owning BTC. You have to think and act before it's too late. |
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what do you think about below chart? I think bitcoin rise is over for now. Chart shows that we are in a buble and it should be corrected. In addition if you look at the weekly chart end of 2013, you will see that it is similar to today. Big correction may come soon  The chart still indicates we are on a clear bulltrend and we are not out of this bull trend. You may be making the mistake of using linear charts, and to chart bitcoin and apply technical analysis you must use logarithmic chart. Everyone uses logarithmic chart to take decisions, so you may be calling a bubble for a long time now if you were looking at the linear charts. Keep holding and we will see an all time high soon. this chart is logarithmic and shows that bull trend end is near. Yes I do hold, but also holding myself to increase bitcoin share in my portfolio  I suggest you the same. I do not call bubble for a long time, but 5000 was my target since the beginning of the year. Now it seems that bitcoin can not get over 5000 target easily. I will watch on Even if it's logarithmic, I don't see a clear indication of the channel being broken and returning to the main channel. What tells you that' Because we are still sitting above $4200 which is a pretty good place to be, so I don't discard the current bullish channel is over, we are still there and I wouldn't discard a pop to $5000 pretty soon at all. |
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Im a N00b. I noticed that most of the top altcoins price went down when btc price went down. I bought some bitcoins so i can buy some NEM. I was wondering if I should wait a little while for the price of btc to go back up or would that mean that NEM prices would most likely go up too?
A valid analogy to make noobs understand the situation is to think as Bitcoin as the engine of the entire cryptomarket. Without bitcoin, the trust on crypto as a whole would simply disappear. Im sure due the traction of the current hype on crypto, it's own inertia would keep it going for a while, but if bitcoin had a fatal flaw, the crash would be serious on ALL coins. Luckily for us, BTC is as safe as it gets, so similarly, when it goes up, the strongest alts also recover, but most people will want to sell alts during a BTC rise, so you much choose carefully. |
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Gold has been around for a long time so it has had time to make its mark on people. Bitcoin is "relatively" new compared to gold. Bitcoin is still trying to find its place in the world and that is why people have gold compared to Bitcoin.
Gold is traditional currency in the history it is use for trading goods and other materials. Gold is better than bitcoin, because gold exists in very long long time but coins exist year 2010 i think. The big difference is the price of bitcoin compare to gold. But gold has lot of resources compare to bitcoin. one weak point of gold is that they do not work as currency, bitcoin has many roles and surpasses them in a complex way, if gold serves only as a long-term asset, then bitcoin works as a profit machine every day with many businesses on offer. Today we are required to see income opportunities from various sources, gold is something that is out of date. The main point of gold is not to act as a currency but as a store of value, and when compared to Bitcoin, Bitcoin it's the better store of value irrelevantly to the currency part. You can teleport you wealth. See gold is ok, but who trusts a gold cert, and you can't teleport gold or make in invisible / weightless and carry x million through the airport. Cashing in gold is kinda hard also, or unsing it as a means of exchange. |
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Dont think any one singular of those is the "right one". Rather we have to combine #1 with #5 and from that we can make a solid gameplan. With how much you need to retire in mind that can help set goals and guide the
way you go about trading. This might make some players in the game super aggressive while making others calm and relaxed. I have seen both of these players in this industry and the only thing that is changed between
them is their mindset. Those two to me standout in terms of what we need to "win" this cryptogame
I agree with everything that OP said mostly, except in the third point: 3. Set up a portfolio with at least 50% in BTC, 30% in ETH/LTC and the rest in perhaps 3-5 other cryptos that you believe in and follow. Make sure to do your homework as the risk goes up exponentially as you move down the market cap ladder.
I wouldn't feel comfortable holding any crypto for 5 years other than bitcoin. These altcoins don't bring anything new and groundbreaking enough in my opinion, in order to consider them long term holds. Im sure some of the alts will deliver mad gains but I would stay at a safe 60% minimum BTC then 40% speculation with altcoins to try to find the get-rich-quick one that gives %100 gains in a span of 1-2 years. |
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if there was a real financial collapse bitcoin would turn to dust too. maybe the people writing here trust it, no one else does. people would run to gold or dollars just like always.
it's a nice idea but bitcoin's time hasn't come yet as a lifeboat. it's still a get rich quick scheme in the minds of most people who put money in and they're also the most panicky people on earth judging by the movements to the slightest scary news.
it would be nice to be proven wrong. i don't think i would be. the handful of people in places like venezuela who do use bitcoin are benefiting from the commodity boom that's fueled it that's lasted for years. they're hanging on the coattails of general market success in first world countries.
It depends on what you consider a "financial collapse". Something that would turn into massive riots on the street worse than 2008 maybe not, but 2008 type of event? I think Bitcoin would shine. Why not? you can store your value there, and it will be safe, if the rest of holders realize this, the price will not crash, but ultimately your X BTC will remain X BTC in your wallet. You can NOT definitely say this applies to the legacy banking system, and gold can be easily confiscated. Looks like all pathways lead to BTC as being the ideal place to be in a financial collapse and it's not because im a holder, im just applying logic, I dont see a better alternative. |
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