I understand that what the hacker did was immoral and I don't like that, but he did stay within the rules (contract) of the ETH system. A contract is a contract.
No company will risk putting their assets into ETH since contracts evidently mean nothing to the community and can be broken. If the community wants a world where contracts can be broken, then by all means let the community do as it wishes.
No he exploited a contract. Anyway you fudder and haters will always hate whatever. Gud news is that the crypto media are all behind the HF and incredibly positive. You need to learn to move on because there's nothing here for you to see now. Aren't funds still locked in most exchanges? Major sell offs incoming.. 8 mill eth withdrawal https://etherscan.io/address/0x53d284357ec70ce289d6d64134dfac8e511c8a3dNo exchanges were and are still functioning. More FUD. Not FUD. Kraken and Polo both disabled withdrawals and deposits. Before crying FUD you should actually know what you're talking about. https://poloniex.com/press-releases/2016.07.15-Ethereum-Hard-Fork/http://blog.kraken.com/post/147619017767/on-the-ethereum-hard-forkkthxbi |
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lol, what a joke. I bought VRC specifically to participate in the ICO and it sells out before I even know it started. lol
Sold my VRC and still made profit, too many coins out there to bother with one that operates like this.
I read the last page and all I see is speculation about this being a scam. Who knows, maybe you did me a favor. Expensive icos always crash. Probably cheaper to buy after ico anyways.
Operates like this = doing exactly what we said we would do in the announcement? We said there was a limit of 350,000 VRM sold in the first phase. It sold out very fast. I don't have a screenshot of the ANN I read, but I don't really care. I dumped your shitcoin and am on to the next shitcoin. No big deal. See ya. Hope it works out well for you and the few people who were lucky enough to get in. Left a bad taste in my mouth, and from the last few pages of content I would say there are more people unhappy than happy. Good luck with phase 2. lol |
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lol, what a joke. I bought VRC specifically to participate in the ICO and it sells out before I even know it started. lol
Sold my VRC and still made profit, too many coins out there to bother with one that operates like this.
I read the last page and all I see is speculation about this being a scam. Who knows, maybe you did me a favor. Expensive icos always crash. Probably cheaper to buy after ico anyways.
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Closely watching this thread, when will be round 3?
We have got a tremendous response today and as we have received more btc than what we have allocated for this round We will be finally consolidating accounts and also release few websites We want to strictly follow coins release henceforth We will be taking 3-4 days gap before releasing our 3rd Round ICO and will be spelling out price after we reconcile Cheers What happened to this? I planned to buy in round 3 and you said it was going to be in 3 - 4 days, then you run it the next day? |
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Having read through all the new pages, here's my analysis:
Perryl, I believe that your intentions here are sincere and you are looking to disseminate and receive the most up to date and accurate information possible. However, I'm not sure anymore exactly what it is you would like to see - you have repeatedly asked Bitbobb for proof you yourself say he cannot provide (can't prove a negative). Can you please, for my sake and others, sum up what it is specifically you would like to see, what your concerns are, and how you would prefer to see them addressed? I know you've asked people to just go back and read, but the truth is your posts are mixed in with a lot of controversy and FUD that makes it difficult to tease out your place in all this.
Thank you, my original intention was to let people know, from my perspective, because I was the person siege heard the flirting thing from. It was a comment about someone else in passing, but it seriously shouldn't affect his qualifications. Missing meetings, well, that's another thing entirely. Anyways. I've never asked for proof, he's offered it yet not provided it. There is definitely a difference. I don't care what he proves. I don't care if he really is that Bitbobb, but I can see why Trumpcoin would/should. Does he need to prove anything to me? No. Not at all. I have said that multiple times too. He's running for a position, he claims someone is impersonating him, I have done nothing but play devil's advocate. Call it fud if you wish, but it makes no difference to me either way. I may buy Trumps, and I am still on this thread because I am asking specific questions about the coin itself. This issue, is behind me, and is honestly a waste of my time. Which is actually quite valuable. Not just to me, but to hundreds of other people. So, to sum it up. I don't need proof. He offered it and didn't fulfill his own offer. Even though I have said several times that I don't need proof, don't want proof, don't care, and everything in between. I think I only asked someone to go back and read when they made a claim about something I said. If they are to make a claim about something I said they should make sure they are correct with what they're saying. Thanks for being a little more understanding. I am still a bit confused - you seem upset that BB has offered to provide proof (and he's actually done so, see below), but say you don't actually want or need it either way. If you don't care about proof, why are you concerned that none has been provided? If what both of you are saying is true, that you don't need proof and that BB can provide more if someone can indicate what they would like to see, then we have no issue here and that part of the discussion can be dropped. I'm going to respond to your other questions in a different post, one sec... P.S. Here is the proof that was provided by BB of being Doing earlier in the thread. I make no claims to the authenticity or quality of this proof, I just want it in a place everyone can see.  Apparently, I missed this post. You are correct, i did not see that. "If you don't care about proof, why are you concerned that none has been provided?" Because it was offered. No reason to even offer it. Just post it and say "there". So much more convincing than "I could post it, it's easy, but I'm too busy right now. Not too busy to talk to you, but too busy to press 'print screen'". Other than that, yeah, dropped it already. I never did see the picture until right before I wrote this message. I mean, would you really expect me to put any effort into looking for a picture I never felt the need to see? It's sad, the world we live in, but it's the way it is. We can't even trust video evidence anymore. Your comments make sense now that you say you never saw my post called Proof: I accept your apoligy...yes it is a crazy world. Just so you know there are 100% no hard feelings I know the world is crazy. I hope you see it was worth for me to be here in stead of my meetings this morning because of this moment right now. You see now I can make shirts with a good feeling about life instead of being upset.. Thank you for posting! No hard feelings here either. I'm skeptical, I'm a dick, a capitalist, and I like to ask hard questions. Ask a vegetarian why they don't eat crickets. Or if a christian knows if god and allah are the same thing. It's fantastic. Am I a troll? Sure, at times. Never, at any time, was my intent to troll this thread. I might be a prick, but I'm an honest prick. |
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No what you are doing is causing the controversy.
My appointments were rescheduled. obviously. What am I needing to explain everything to you? So that is what this is all about. Someone is very afraid I may get a role in this coin and they do not want that? I think you just gave away your position. My god you really do have a lot of points that are N/A. And I take slander seriously. If you cared about this coin and your name and left for a meeting you would have criticisms for me for that we all see what you are doing here. Good job on warning us all. Now how can I help you what proof will you accept? what method would you like it? Oh now you do not care about proof? So then I am not needed here. So signing off now for the tenth time for real good bye till later.
As we've been asked to take this to PM, I'm going to drop this here. I have told you, repeatedly, I do not need nor want proof. You're the one running for a position. I have determined, based on this stupid argument over nothing. That I would not vote for you. That is all that really matters at this point. My interest in this coin has been perked by the non-fud. Aside that, if you want help with Lightshot then please PM me. Please, do not PM me otherwise. I have no interest in this argument. I do, however, have interest in seeing a coin becoming a superpac. That's super interesting to me. I do, in the event that I decide to buy Trumps, care about this coin, enough, to care about who is handling the funds, and how they handle themselves. Now, I have other things to do. We'll talk again, I'm sure, and hopefully in the future we can forget about this. Regardless who the real Bitbobb is. I think, it's also important to raise awareness if there is some question as to whether Bitbobb on the exchange represents you. That's going to cause more confusion. Perryl, Bitbobb, PLEASE can you contain your posts in Private Messages? There is no need for so much spam in this thread.
Edit: Yes, Signal7 has big plans to make this coin successful!
I'm done. I won't respond to future posts from Bitbobb regarding this issue. I do not think with the time line you gave me I could ever give you the proof you needed to support me since you did not tell me what proof you will accept. And you rejected the proof I offered before you ever asked for any. Further, I think a mountain of proof would not be enough for you since you may be here to try and knock me out of the running because I am a threat to Hillary. Very simple. I hope I am wrong of course lol, nah. I wouldn't vote for Hillary. I feel terrible for Americans right now. Maybe it's time to consider Johnson or whatever the 3rd candidate's name is. I'll say one thing, if it was me? i would have tabbed to yobit and posted a screenshot within seconds. Probably just my full screen because idc what people know about me. lol You're correct, a mountain of proof would not be good enough. However, it would make me lean towards believing you. Hardcore skeptic here. You're going to have trouble convincing me about much of anything that I can't see with my own two eyes. lol. Even then. What's the saying... believe half of what you see and none of what you hear? Something like that. You're definitely, definitely wrong about Hillary. I'd rather see Monica in office. haha |
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Ok, so that's great I will show screen shots later today of my login for yobit and whatever else is required of me. But I have missed several meetings this morning because of this. So while it is very impressive that guys hit on you and that you are holding trumps can I please leave the computer now and salvage what I can of this beautiful day outside? Thank you I know about burden of proof. I also am well aware of impatient people making demands and how they are usually N/A
I don't need screenshots, idc either way, told you that enough. Why would you miss meetings for a forum thread??? Maybe not a good thing to say publicly while running for treasurer? I don't hold Trumps.. lol. You miss the point as much as the Bitbobb from yobit. Starting to think I would be surprised if you weren't one and the same. I think, there is a vote, right? Well. There are two other people that don't have so much controversy surrounding them, right? I think that's what's going on. I'm not really too up-to-date with what's going on here. I'm just pointing out that a guy that would miss meetings to not provide proof to claims being made against him is probably not the guy I would want as treasurer. One of those other two people is voting for me because they believe I will do a better job. And both of them have no objection to me serving this coin. I think Hillary does not want it. I am sure she would like to have my talents but they go to Trump! Please stop trying to hurt this coin! BB, be that as it may, what has happened here speaks to my concerns over your public perception if you are a steward of the fund going forward that I expressed to you on Yobit a few days ago. Do you remember what I said, and is it making a little more sense now? I never spoke to you on yobit I would argue that bringing this to light is important for exactly this reason. People need to know not to trust people in exchanges as being representative of the person affiliated with the coin. Personally, I have learned to assume anyone in any exchange is not the same as the person I am speaking to on Bitcointalk unless proven otherwise. I can see how this could have negatively affected me, even, caused me to lose money. So this is definitely an important lesson to learn. I mean, consider it. With the right type of malware a person pretending to be you could get access to your bitcointalk account and then take over anything. Or if you're using a password you can remember then it's likely possible that password can be compromised by an exchange owner or pool owner. When you start getting your password mailed to you in plain text, that's when you know to change any site that is using that password or anything similar to it. |
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correction: I offered proof then you took me up on my offer. Then someone (maybe you) stated that downloading a file is unacceptable. So what is the deal you guys saw my trouble uploading pictures yesterday and then came up with this attacks because you knew I have trouble posting pictures quickly? And as a back up if I am smart enough to voice this issues in spite of my new behavior of not over talking then you could just label me crazy for thinking such extreme thoughts? Good job.
I didn't know you have issues with screenshots, but I also didn't ask you for one. I've also tried to help you out with this, in fact, that's all I really did? You're arguing with the wrong person if you think I want proof of you not being the same Bitbobb. I have no reason to believe you are/aren't, though. Obviously, anyone can impersonate anyone online. I've been impersonated, so I know it's very possible. They can even do it with the same name... changing an I to an l or vice-versa is a very common way. I was the one who said downloading a file was unacceptable. It's not a good idea for anyone to do that, if you're not very computer literate it's probably worth keeping that in mind. Especially a file with no preview. I don't expect you to trust me, but Lightshot is an incredible program for common screenshots, but it automatically creates a link and people could potentially find that link. So, it's best not to use Lightshot for screenshotting anything confidential. At least, not without creating an account. Maybe if you create an account you can delete pictures? I'd have to get back to you on that. I promise I am not upset. I just like to do this correctly. I do not rush into things. It is not wise. I planned on learning more tonight about this mystery of how to post images on btc forum threads. Until then I am sorry but I cannot use the program you provided me. Thanks! For lightshot you just press print screen, it uploads the photo for you, you'll see a window in the bottom right corner with a link. You can copy or whatever from there. Many options. This forum doesn't support lightshot for images, but you can post it as a link for people to click and view. Although, even that can be dangerous. Malware is getting very powerful. I express concern over downloading files because of ransomware. Are you familiar with ransomware? Add that to your list of things to Google and study, it's really worth knowing about. Especially if you're in crypto. All it takes is one bad link. |
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Having read through all the new pages, here's my analysis:
Perryl, I believe that your intentions here are sincere and you are looking to disseminate and receive the most up to date and accurate information possible. However, I'm not sure anymore exactly what it is you would like to see - you have repeatedly asked Bitbobb for proof you yourself say he cannot provide (can't prove a negative). Can you please, for my sake and others, sum up what it is specifically you would like to see, what your concerns are, and how you would prefer to see them addressed? I know you've asked people to just go back and read, but the truth is your posts are mixed in with a lot of controversy and FUD that makes it difficult to tease out your place in all this.
Thank you, my original intention was to let people know, from my perspective, because I was the person siege heard the flirting thing from. It was a comment about someone else in passing, but it seriously shouldn't affect his qualifications. Missing meetings, well, that's another thing entirely. Anyways. I've never asked for proof, he's offered it yet not provided it. There is definitely a difference. I don't care what he proves. I don't care if he really is that Bitbobb, but I can see why Trumpcoin would/should. Does he need to prove anything to me? No. Not at all. I have said that multiple times too. He's running for a position, he claims someone is impersonating him, I have done nothing but play devil's advocate. Call it fud if you wish, but it makes no difference to me either way. I may buy Trumps, and I am still on this thread because I am asking specific questions about the coin itself. This issue, is behind me, and is honestly a waste of my time. Which is actually quite valuable. Not just to me, but to hundreds of other people. So, to sum it up. I don't need proof. He offered it and didn't fulfill his own offer. Even though I have said several times that I don't need proof, don't want proof, don't care, and everything in between. I think I only asked someone to go back and read when they made a claim about something I said. If they are to make a claim about something I said they should make sure they are correct with what they're saying. Thanks for being a little more understanding. I am still a bit confused - you seem upset that BB has offered to provide proof (and he's actually done so, see below), but say you don't actually want or need it either way. If you don't care about proof, why are you concerned that none has been provided? If what both of you are saying is true, that you don't need proof and that BB can provide more if someone can indicate what they would like to see, then we have no issue here and that part of the discussion can be dropped. I'm going to respond to your other questions in a different post, one sec... P.S. Here is the proof that was provided by BB of being Doing earlier in the thread. I make no claims to the authenticity or quality of this proof, I just want it in a place everyone can see. Apparently, I missed this post. You are correct, i did not see that. "If you don't care about proof, why are you concerned that none has been provided?" Because it was offered. No reason to even offer it. Just post it and say "there". So much more convincing than "I could post it, it's easy, but I'm too busy right now. Not too busy to talk to you, but too busy to press 'print screen'". Other than that, yeah, dropped it already. I never did see the picture until right before I wrote this message. I mean, would you really expect me to put any effort into looking for a picture I never felt the need to see? It's sad, the world we live in, but it's the way it is. We can't even trust video evidence anymore. |
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Ok, so that's great I will show screen shots later today of my login for yobit and whatever else is required of me. But I have missed several meetings this morning because of this. So while it is very impressive that guys hit on you and that you are holding trumps can I please leave the computer now and salvage what I can of this beautiful day outside? Thank you I know about burden of proof. I also am well aware of impatient people making demands and how they are usually N/A
I don't need screenshots, idc either way, told you that enough. Why would you miss meetings for a forum thread??? Maybe not a good thing to say publicly while running for treasurer? I don't hold Trumps.. lol. You miss the point as much as the Bitbobb from yobit. Starting to think I would be surprised if you weren't one and the same. I think, there is a vote, right? Well. There are two other people that don't have so much controversy surrounding them, right? I think that's what's going on. I'm not really too up-to-date with what's going on here. I'm just pointing out that a guy that would miss meetings to not provide proof to claims being made against him is probably not the guy I would want as treasurer. "Why would you miss meetings for a forum thread??? " because the investors come first.What did he do for the investors in that time? He spent the entire time defending himself with the defense of "I can defend myself anytime", but never actually doing it. If he was doing something for the investors, like, say, going to meetings then I can understand. However, he's not treasurer yet, and he didn't actually do anything for investors. So, my question, as a potential investor that does not support either political candidate for several reasons. Is, why would I vote for someone who thinks counter-FUD is more important than meetings? I guess, I'm assuming that his meetings were important, but they may not be. I guess that's worth considering. I wonder what meeting is less important than counter-FUD that's never achieved. Claiming you will provide evidence, but never doing it. Yeah. That's the guy I would vote for. (s) I guess, what should I expect from people who would vote for either candidate in the USA right now.  Did you realize you just made fun of every voter in USA or in the alternative just made fun of both candidates? Yes, that's the point. Making fun of both candidates. Thanks for noticing. |
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Interesting. That's a lot of speculation, one could hope it wouldn't affect the price by much, but, how much of a donation are we talking about here? What is this donation based on? and, how much of a heads up will we get before the donation is being made?
ok so maybe I should clear up some facts about what we can and cannot do legally.
Let's start with the can nots:
1. We cannot contribute more than $2700 from a single entity directly to Donald Trump's official campaign.
2. If we register as a Super PAC, we can NOT...
a. contribute even one penny directly to him or his official campaign.
b. communicate with him in any way, shape or form during the elections.
c. expect any endorsements or acknowledgements from him during the elections.
Things we CAN do:
1. Encourage anyone not directly affiliated with the Super PAC to donate up to the $2700 maximum to Donald Trump's official campaign.
2. Combine our talents, resources, and finances to indirectly support Donald Trump for President with media and grassroots campaign efforts.
3. Solicit unlimited donations to our PAC in order to help us towards our goals.
4. Buy commercials, billboards, and advertising of any kind to promote Trump for President and/or the TrumpCoin initiatives.
Why are these points important?
Because folks seem to believe that we are going to be allowed to pump the coin value up to around $5 and just give Trump a million bucks.
No. That's illegal. He cannot accept it.
I do not feel like it is sensible for a prominent public person to just sit on the funds for us (they will be constantly having to manage and document movements). I do not feel like it is sensible to lock the fund into any escrow or other long term commitment. I feel like the fund should be handled by an internal official treasury like any other PAC with publicly available ledgers and accountability and put to good use to help fund our agenda(s). yes, I am drafting a plan.
All that said, we have yet to decide definitively the true scope of our official agenda, which should be our very next step after establishing some sort of organized leadership.
Once we have more thoroughly discussed the pros and cons of Super PAC vs. donation fund, we will be able to finally commit to a direction and make a responsible decision as to how the fund should be stored, used, protected, etc.
Here is the most recent relevant post (to your question) by Signal7. Thank you, that's really helpful. Interesting, it almost sounds like Signal7 is taking the coin in the direction of forming a superpac, that's really interesting to me. I don't know enough about superpacs and that whole aspect of the political system, but that definitely perks my interest. We've got more in the pipeline, so here's a TLDR roadmap for the short term. Also, there's are always uncertainties when trying to get these kind of things done so take it with a grain of salt. Anyway these are the biggest "features" in the works right now IMO but there's also a couple of side projects like trumpcoin t-shirts and the trumpcoin book etc. - Electing a treasurer to hold the trumpfund
- Revamp of trumpcoin.com website and making it the main website (.rocks will redirect)
- Setting up a super PAC for trumpcoin
- Payment system that'll allow people to buy trumpcoin with usd through an exchange with simple KYC procedure
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I am responding to things that are on page 34 and the thread is on page 38. This is not going to eat my whole day no way folks. I am done.
I do not care some person in a troll box is demanding screen shots. Where were you yesterday when depredation was kind enough to post my pictures for me because I do not yet know how? I am truly sorry that I cannot comply with your demands of me this Sunday morning. I did not planned to get trolled to HH. So in the meantime if you are sad it is not me then sorry or IDK. But I will check back later. Bye for now God bless Donald J. Trump!
I can help you with posting screenshots, not necessarily of this, but in general. I've already tried... You posted an app for me to download. Tell me how to post in this forum and I will say "Thank you!" I know how to snap the image then what? I was going to look it up later since I will have more photos I want to share anyway. Oh, sure.  Sec, they don't accept lightshot. I'll help you really quickly here, just refresh this page in like a minute. So, to do that, upload an image to imgur and then right click the image and "copy link location", then paste it in that insert image tab on the submit message page. |
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Ok, so that's great I will show screen shots later today of my login for yobit and whatever else is required of me. But I have missed several meetings this morning because of this. So while it is very impressive that guys hit on you and that you are holding trumps can I please leave the computer now and salvage what I can of this beautiful day outside? Thank you I know about burden of proof. I also am well aware of impatient people making demands and how they are usually N/A
I don't need screenshots, idc either way, told you that enough. Why would you miss meetings for a forum thread??? Maybe not a good thing to say publicly while running for treasurer? I don't hold Trumps.. lol. You miss the point as much as the Bitbobb from yobit. Starting to think I would be surprised if you weren't one and the same. I think, there is a vote, right? Well. There are two other people that don't have so much controversy surrounding them, right? I think that's what's going on. I'm not really too up-to-date with what's going on here. I'm just pointing out that a guy that would miss meetings to not provide proof to claims being made against him is probably not the guy I would want as treasurer. One of those other two people is voting for me because they believe I will do a better job. And both of them have no objection to me serving this coin. I think Hillary does not want it. I am sure she would like to have my talents but they go to Trump! Please stop trying to hurt this coin! Personally, I don't think either of them are good for the USA, but I live in Canada. So, not up to me either way. I might catch some flak for this, but I doubt it will surprise many. I liked Bernie. That being said, I didn't watch any of the debates or follow enough of the campaign to know enough about what any of them say. I'd like to see Trump win and then for Kanye to actually run in 2020. West vs Trump 2020. Oh my... I love it. |
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No what you are doing is causing the controversy.
My appointments were rescheduled. obviously. What am I needing to explain everything to you? So that is what this is all about. Someone is very afraid I may get a role in this coin and they do not want that? I think you just gave away your position. My god you really do have a lot of points that are N/A. And I take slander seriously. If you cared about this coin and your name and left for a meeting you would have criticisms for me for that we all see what you are doing here. Good job on warning us all. Now how can I help you what proof will you accept? what method would you like it? Oh now you do not care about proof? So then I am not needed here. So signing off now for the tenth time for real good bye till later.
As we've been asked to take this to PM, I'm going to drop this here. I have told you, repeatedly, I do not need nor want proof. You're the one running for a position. I have determined, based on this stupid argument over nothing. That I would not vote for you. That is all that really matters at this point. My interest in this coin has been perked by the non-fud. Aside that, if you want help with Lightshot then please PM me. Please, do not PM me otherwise. I have no interest in this argument. I do, however, have interest in seeing a coin becoming a superpac. That's super interesting to me. I do, in the event that I decide to buy Trumps, care about this coin, enough, to care about who is handling the funds, and how they handle themselves. Now, I have other things to do. We'll talk again, I'm sure, and hopefully in the future we can forget about this. Regardless who the real Bitbobb is. I think, it's also important to raise awareness if there is some question as to whether Bitbobb on the exchange represents you. That's going to cause more confusion. Perryl, Bitbobb, PLEASE can you contain your posts in Private Messages? There is no need for so much spam in this thread.
Edit: Yes, Signal7 has big plans to make this coin successful!
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Interesting. That's a lot of speculation, one could hope it wouldn't affect the price by much, but, how much of a donation are we talking about here? What is this donation based on? and, how much of a heads up will we get before the donation is being made?
ok so maybe I should clear up some facts about what we can and cannot do legally.
Let's start with the can nots:
1. We cannot contribute more than $2700 from a single entity directly to Donald Trump's official campaign.
2. If we register as a Super PAC, we can NOT...
a. contribute even one penny directly to him or his official campaign.
b. communicate with him in any way, shape or form during the elections.
c. expect any endorsements or acknowledgements from him during the elections.
Things we CAN do:
1. Encourage anyone not directly affiliated with the Super PAC to donate up to the $2700 maximum to Donald Trump's official campaign.
2. Combine our talents, resources, and finances to indirectly support Donald Trump for President with media and grassroots campaign efforts.
3. Solicit unlimited donations to our PAC in order to help us towards our goals.
4. Buy commercials, billboards, and advertising of any kind to promote Trump for President and/or the TrumpCoin initiatives.
Why are these points important?
Because folks seem to believe that we are going to be allowed to pump the coin value up to around $5 and just give Trump a million bucks.
No. That's illegal. He cannot accept it.
I do not feel like it is sensible for a prominent public person to just sit on the funds for us (they will be constantly having to manage and document movements). I do not feel like it is sensible to lock the fund into any escrow or other long term commitment. I feel like the fund should be handled by an internal official treasury like any other PAC with publicly available ledgers and accountability and put to good use to help fund our agenda(s). yes, I am drafting a plan.
All that said, we have yet to decide definitively the true scope of our official agenda, which should be our very next step after establishing some sort of organized leadership.
Once we have more thoroughly discussed the pros and cons of Super PAC vs. donation fund, we will be able to finally commit to a direction and make a responsible decision as to how the fund should be stored, used, protected, etc.
Here is the most recent relevant post (to your question) by Signal7. Thank you, that's really helpful. Interesting, it almost sounds like Signal7 is taking the coin in the direction of forming a superpac, that's really interesting to me. I don't know enough about superpacs and that whole aspect of the political system, but that definitely perks my interest. |
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correction: I offered proof then you took me up on my offer. Then someone (maybe you) stated that downloading a file is unacceptable. So what is the deal you guys saw my trouble uploading pictures yesterday and then came up with this attacks because you knew I have trouble posting pictures quickly? And as a back up if I am smart enough to voice this issues in spite of my new behavior of not over talking then you could just label me crazy for thinking such extreme thoughts? Good job.
I didn't know you have issues with screenshots, but I also didn't ask you for one. I've also tried to help you out with this, in fact, that's all I really did? You're arguing with the wrong person if you think I want proof of you not being the same Bitbobb. I have no reason to believe you are/aren't, though. Obviously, anyone can impersonate anyone online. I've been impersonated, so I know it's very possible. They can even do it with the same name... changing an I to an l or vice-versa is a very common way. I was the one who said downloading a file was unacceptable. It's not a good idea for anyone to do that, if you're not very computer literate it's probably worth keeping that in mind. Especially a file with no preview. I don't expect you to trust me, but Lightshot is an incredible program for common screenshots, but it automatically creates a link and people could potentially find that link. So, it's best not to use Lightshot for screenshotting anything confidential. At least, not without creating an account. Maybe if you create an account you can delete pictures? I'd have to get back to you on that. |
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LOL True, maybe I won't. I'm not here to try and raise or drop the price, just to clear the air on what Siege claims. Correct, I do not hold Trumps. There are just too many alts to hold them all. lol Like Trumpcoin said. Page 31 - 37 is basically all Siege trying to kill Trumpcoin, me trying to figure out if Bitbobb here is Bitbobb from yobit, and people who don't bother reading posts making ignorant comments. The result? Bitbobb hasn't proved anything either way, he says it's a fake, it might be, I don't know if it is either way. Seige is talking about me when he talks about hearing that Bitbobb was on Yobit trying to pick up girls. I'm a guy, and I have no idea if the Bitbobb trying to get my number is the same as the one that is actually in the vote for treasurer. He says it's not, but offers none of the easily obtainable proof to back that up. I don't know what to think, and you should make up your own mind. Don't listen to anything Siege posts. Just skip right over them. There's the TL;DR version. What proof do you want? Did you see what I posted within a few minutes of your first request for proof? Did you see the other comments that said I was arguing with the bitbobb account? So what else can we do for you? Please tell us so you will stop damaging this coin. None. By now I could have already manufactured every piece of proof I would ask of you. You've spent hours saying you could do something but not actually doing it. Makes no sense to me. |
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"Bitbobb" is on Yobit right now. Real one? Fake one? Does it even matter at this point?
I wouldn't invest in anything with Trump's name on it, too many bankruptcies, but watching the coin go up and down somewhat interested me. I was a bit upset i didn't buy at 4k when it went up to 22k. Then the Chicken thing happens, since then it's stayed around 7 - 8k. Been considering buying it. Whatever really happened, idk. So people are fighting over administration of the coin, fighting over everything to do with the coin. Then this guy "Bitbobb" is saying he's going to be treasurer and some other Trumpcoin rep is arguing with him in the trollbox on Yobit telling him he shouldn't call himself treasurer yet, others are running, etc, etc. Then this same "Bitbobb" starts trying to hit on people.
I don't know. Makes me glad to not be a part of this shitstorm. Aside from "Bitbobb" trying to hit on me... lmao
I never said those things and no one is arguing here. We are actually all doing well. Lot's of things happening. Lots* See why us demos think we need more money in schools? I specifically said the arguing was in Yobit... That denseness is hard to fake. The Bitbobb on Yobit seemed to have trouble understanding things that were said to him. FYI, figuring out if two accounts are owned by the same person is part of my job description. Literally. Ok good for you. But we are on BTC forum now yes? Ok. I usually do not pay attention to the trollbox on yobit. I already learned that lesson like a week or two ago! Lol. Only it was strange because this "fakebobb" was really good at parroting me. He had me down I agree. So if you were fooled even as a pro I understand because these trolls are pro as well. BTC talk forums and Trumpcoin is home of the real Bitbobb. Accept no substitute! It was my first time meeting "you". So that person was the person who gave me my first impression of you. Ok. I am sorry you had that experience! It's no problem, sorry this went on for so long. You still haven't even attempted to prove you're not him, though, and I think that's worth noting. Yeah I did post my screen shot but it is a jpeg file hosted on a free file hosting site. And I posted the link. And I did this just for you before I ran out the door HOURS AGO!!! The screen shot was taken when I first responded to the "fake bitboob". I am "Doing" and my comment was He is not really Bitbobb or something like that. I posted this when you asked for proof and before you told me that I have been given every chance to prove my self and I did not. Maybe you missed it. Maybe not good enough? I am going to do other things. Make a note of it. If you think that makes me look guilty then I am gonna have to look guilty I guess becasue other wise I do not get to leave and I do not know what you want from me that will satisfy you anyway. Can you tell me what would satisfy you? If I can do it I will. If you need to know some ways of checking to see if things have been photo shopped I can even help with that. Yes there is a few ways that a good But even court does not happen on Sunday. How long are we going to rehash this same point? you posted a screenshot of proof for someone, not me, I didn't need proof. I don't care. I also don't think you can actually prove it, but when you posted that file I said that people would be stupid to download a random file like that. I offered you an easier way to screenshot, that is all. I, do not, personally, need proof of anything. I don't care if you're the same person. I've got nothing against you picking up girls or guys online. This is your problem that has become my annoyance. At this point, I am looking at this thread like I do many others to see the potential of the coin. While having to respond to FUD that is being carried on by the people who want to end it? It makes no sense. You're just as bad as Siege at this point. I can't help it if you don't understand the things I write in perfectly clear English. I'm sorry if you thought I actually wanted proof even though I repeatedly said I don't. |
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Having read through all the new pages, here's my analysis:
Perryl, I believe that your intentions here are sincere and you are looking to disseminate and receive the most up to date and accurate information possible. However, I'm not sure anymore exactly what it is you would like to see - you have repeatedly asked Bitbobb for proof you yourself say he cannot provide (can't prove a negative). Can you please, for my sake and others, sum up what it is specifically you would like to see, what your concerns are, and how you would prefer to see them addressed? I know you've asked people to just go back and read, but the truth is your posts are mixed in with a lot of controversy and FUD that makes it difficult to tease out your place in all this.
Thank you, my original intention was to let people know, from my perspective, because I was the person siege heard the flirting thing from. It was a comment about someone else in passing, but it seriously shouldn't affect his qualifications. Missing meetings, well, that's another thing entirely. Anyways. I've never asked for proof, he's offered it yet not provided it. There is definitely a difference. I don't care what he proves. I don't care if he really is that Bitbobb, but I can see why Trumpcoin would/should. Does he need to prove anything to me? No. Not at all. I have said that multiple times too. He's running for a position, he claims someone is impersonating him, I have done nothing but play devil's advocate. Call it fud if you wish, but it makes no difference to me either way. I may buy Trumps, and I am still on this thread because I am asking specific questions about the coin itself. This issue, is behind me, and is honestly a waste of my time. Which is actually quite valuable. Not just to me, but to hundreds of other people. So, to sum it up. I don't need proof. He offered it and didn't fulfill his own offer. Even though I have said several times that I don't need proof, don't want proof, don't care, and everything in between. I think I only asked someone to go back and read when they made a claim about something I said. If they are to make a claim about something I said they should make sure they are correct with what they're saying. Thanks for being a little more understanding. |
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PSA: The posts since Post ~#610 (page 31) up to Post ~#781 (page 40) have been focused on FUD and counter-FUD.
There is little of value to see here. I'm only here right because I asked a legitimate question, about the coin, and nobody bothered to answer... Is the plan to give the company to Trump? So, if you didn't want your money to go to Trump you were expected to sell your Trumps by a certain date. Is this true or not? no its not. trump will get a donation. this will affect the price but not by much. afterwards it will continue to grow to further donate to trumps cause Interesting. That's a lot of speculation, one could hope it wouldn't affect the price by much, but, how much of a donation are we talking about here? What is this donation based on? and, how much of a heads up will we get before the donation is being made? |
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