@ik_do, I am staking but I will get my reward in 644 days?  Sorry I don't know any more, how much are you staking? I have 15k in the account I screenshot. |
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What was the minimum amount that was going to be raised through crowdfunding?
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 It was included in the previous game as you can see in the image. That's the funny part. This guy, a Hero member btw, is lying to get his money back because he CHEATED by trying to deposit too early. screenshot above didnt prove anything, it could be easliy edited / updated / deleted... even a noob can do it lol Exactly! Please show TXID of payment for Round#3 or accept that you tried scamming and refund my BTC! You were the last one to deposit in round 3. Why would you expect to see a payment txid? Do you even understand how this game works? As you can see from this screenshot below, the payment was detected since it triggered a payment to the fees address. So your payment was detected and it was entered into the database for day 3, not day 4 because it was early.  I know the last deposit won't get a payment. Don't try to talk stupid! I'm talking about the payment for the next in line. Only 0.6xxx BTC were required to pay the next person. Where's the TXID of that payment scammer? Secondly, isn't the fee 5%? The numbers don't match up! Explain this too now. That is probably because he takes 5% after 130% is calculated. |
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how long does it take to get interest from stake   All you need to do is unlock wallet (and select for staking), every 30-60+ minutes you get interest. |
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fk this bullsh1t i will never play this ponzi again u better gamble on blackjack or roulette or play this nonsense
Based on how you you've been playing (from your talk on the thread) I am fairly sure you are in the black in a big way overall even if you have had some rough patches.. Sure 30% lose but that is the name of the game... Stop lying, way more than 30% of people lost. All I can say is that I just bought ~0.35 BTC with some of my paycheque and I'm not going to be putting it in a stupid ponzi ever again. The original comment is right, playing blackjack or roulette is a much better idea than playing this. |
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Done right, there is no reason why VTR cannot be uploaded to download.com, softpedia, etc.  That's free marketing to millions of potential users  Good thinking. That would be funny if VTR had more downloads than Litecoin or who knows, Bitcoin  Right about now, you want to be pulling the sell orders or raising them to 0.0008 That made me think, A lot more people use torrents than crypto, this copuld be huge for crypto, could bring a flood of new people into the fold  Actually, it's not just that more people use torrents, its more of the right type of people who use torrents that would also be ideal for crypto. It's actually a great natural fit. If you can use a torrent, you can use a crypto wallet. We probably need a dogecoin type meme right about now. The deal with torrents is that they are viral. The network effect is strong with them. VTR could find a way to reach mass audiences in a way that chasing after retailers just hasn't happened for Bitcoin. VTR could make consumers switch the way they use crypto and have it as part of their day-to-day lives, i.e. crypto could reach a tipping point for mainstream online use with a torrent app driving adoption. From small acorns........ Your right the right type of people use torrents and it would be easy to shift over to crypto, it would be easy gap to bridge. I like the idea of a meme like doge, but how would you start one? What do memes have to do with anything? TBH more people would avoid a torrent client/investment because of memes than would sign up. What you need is people who explain how to use the software EASILY on day one (YouTube tutorials, wiki/proper documentation); at the moment it is still confusing as there are no vtorrent specific instructions (i'm sure that will be cleared up closer to launch). That is what the main problem is with cryptocurrencies--not memes, but accessibility. Almost all currencies/wallets I've used so far have had extremely poor documentation, for instance when googling "ripple wallet" you can only find a link to the actual wallet for windows hidden on some knowledge base article in an obscure way. What should happen is people hear about vtr through word of mouth and google it, will the first results they see be helpful and make the software easy to use or will they just be filler information with memes? |
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[...]Not only that releasing the address beforehand is stupid; the rough time of the game should be announced (+/- random 10 minutes) and whoever is lucky enough to get the address first can deposit the soonest. That will always be the bots. A bot can process the contents of a webpage, extract the address, and initiate payments to that address before you've even registered that there's a new address on the page. While I do believe that this is ultimately doomed to fail, the existing setup does allows human players a chance to get at least one "bet" in before it's too late. I'm not running any scripts or bots and I was the 12th payout for Day #3; my "bet" was received at 00:00:01. The fact that the time is fixed and the address is fixed puts bots and humans on equal footing for the first deposit. A bot would have an advantage to a human playing with a single wallet for the 2nd deposit done in the game. If you vary the time and/or vary the address you take away any advantage the human has and give bots a huge advantage. It is easy for code to cope with both of those issues. A bot can even use multiple IP's to watch the websites. Only the fact that all information is know gives human players a chance. I doubt there are actually any bots being used. I've written bots before and it isn't worth writing a bot for this. There are just too many ways to shoot yourself in the foot. What you are seeing is people watching the clock and hitting the "ok" button when they see it is time to play. A few dozen humans doing that looks just the same as a bunch of bots. It still doesn't change the fact that you either play in the first few minutes or you lose (which makes 99% of the game pointless) Given that it isn't even a calculated risk (because it is impossible to determine how many people will enter, how much they will 'invest' or whether the site will crash midway) the chances are no better or worse than just blindly rolling at a dice site. Yes, you can basically only win or lose with weeklyponzi, but if you just want a 30% payout you can roll at 60% on any dice website and get an instant result--there is no lottery or comeback if you lose which means no one is going to be stupid enough to put money in after 3 minutes (out of a week) have passed. IMHO, its really nice to have (what seems like) an operator who runs the website fairly (at least that is how the blockchain looks), but for just 30% this whole concept is pointless. |
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I don't know how valid is that, as ponzis have existed since the last 2-3 years. So people who tried it then, would have lost money. But still went ahead and tried it this time as well.
Yes, they do, and they will, as far as these ponzis will look promising and will pay, and they won't stop until they either get scammed or lose the way people are losing in this one...  Yeah you're honestly a lot better off risking it investing or playing actual casino games where there is some actual element of chance--the number of people who invest in this scheme is unknown, the website stability is unknown etc. Not only that releasing the address beforehand is stupid; the rough time of the game should be announced (+/- random 10 minutes) and whoever is lucky enough to get the address first can deposit the soonest. All that pre-announcing the address does is let everyone who can script spam the crap out of the site completely taking any entertainment element out of it (again, if you're going into this without a bot you're not competing against humans, you are competing against bots) |
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You forget that the majority wins at a ponzi with 30% profit.
Round about
First 65% Win
Then 5% Fees
Last 30% Lose
I think the Volume will slowly increase.
It is true that some loose their BTC and can't play again, but some win and can play next round with more BTC.
Normally nobody likes ponzis, but here everything is clear advertised and u know what u are going into.
How did you reach a 65% win conclusion? That is flatly untrue and really depends on the amounts that people have put in (i.e. 0.0001 BTC and 1 BTC are completely different). To even move another 20 slots up at least 20 BTC would have to be deposited, so the game is not going to proceed any more. I think you should be a little more realistic: you will lose this game unless you have a script/alarm clock set for the very first few minutes of the game. Otherwise don't bother. |
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What is the best way to store this currency on a desktop computer? Their documentation only talks about counterwallet. Can I just send funds to my existing counterwallet address and then retain full functionality of the coin?
Thanks.
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It is sad to see OP not working on promoting the weekly game. That game had an issue but still was not too bad and could be saved. Instead it is left for dead. Not even 200 BTC of volume vs last week’s 715 BTC.
All the volume in the 1st weekly game was in the first 2 days. I don't think we'll see that again. My guess is the start of the next weekly will be even more wild than the daily games because people will believe there is more safety in the weekly game and the weekly game will dead in a few hours or even minutes. Seriously, a hundred people watching the clock would look the same as a bunch of scripts battling it out. I wouldn't enter because the website could just go down at any point again; sure the owner might not be behind it going down, but you still are not going to get any compensation if the game screws up. Not only that with the level of planning and preparation (people using bots/scripts) it will take all fun out of the game; if I wanted to watch robots fighting I'm sure there is a more entertaining end-product than numbers changing on a computer screen. If you're a regular person without bots/scripts don't even bother with this game. Even with scripts etc I wouldn't risk it because of uncompensated downtime. What is this "downtime" you speak of? The only downtime the sites have had are due to Bitcoinmonitor's IPN system being down. When it was brought back up, the lost time was added to the round. That still affected the game heavily, it is still downtime whichever way you look at it. The website was launched instantly after the 24 hours of downtime with almost no lead up too, so even if the 24 hours was added to the timer, it is still not really representative of how much the downtime affected the game. |
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It is sad to see OP not working on promoting the weekly game. That game had an issue but still was not too bad and could be saved. Instead it is left for dead. Not even 200 BTC of volume vs last week’s 715 BTC.
All the volume in the 1st weekly game was in the first 2 days. I don't think we'll see that again. My guess is the start of the next weekly will be even more wild than the daily games because people will believe there is more safety in the weekly game and the weekly game will dead in a few hours or even minutes. Seriously, a hundred people watching the clock would look the same as a bunch of scripts battling it out. I wouldn't enter because the website could just go down at any point again; sure the owner might not be behind it going down, but you still are not going to get any compensation if the game screws up. Not only that with the level of planning and preparation (people using bots/scripts) it will take all fun out of the game; if I wanted to watch robots fighting I'm sure there is a more entertaining end-product than numbers changing on a computer screen. If you're a regular person without bots/scripts don't even bother with this game. Even with scripts etc I wouldn't risk it because of uncompensated downtime. |
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that's because its over; if you didn't play within the first few minutes you lost (if you don't have a timer set up for the next round then don't even bother).
its not because the owner is a scammer or anything, its because the chance of winning this game are low whichever way you look at it (for a small payoff of only 30%). You'd be better off investing in random cryptocurrencies than thinking you have a good chance to win this.
There is no incentive for any user to put in even 0.0001 BTC right now, as they will never get any reward/payback. Only an idiot would play at this point in time.
Also if the site goes down midway through your game then you've basically lost, because people will see that the website is down 'temporarily' and go elsewhere straight away.
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they should have them every 12h... if ur too late tough shit, im personaly in a loss on this 1 , the blockchain time was 10 seconds faster than the website!!!!
if the useful period of 24 hours is less than even a minute then there may as well be a round every minute. protip to anyone in doubt: there is no issue with trust on this website as far as I can see (owner seems to want to be around for a while) but there is no point wasting your money unless you are confident you can invest in the first few seconds of a round. |
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this round is basically completely lost; the downtime didn't help at all. no one is investing any real amounts at all anymore and there are a lot of BTC in the queue.
personally I won't be investing in anything similar to this again, if I'd just exchanged into some other currency i'd at least always have something.
i don't understand the logic in having a week long game because evidently within a few hours of launch the game is pointless.
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I managed to recover my wallet from a previous backup; although I should note that another backup I had that was about a week after the initial wallet didn't work.
I will be sending log files to developer.
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To be clear, I have a backup--as soon as I have a clearer mind I'll try to restore it and update the thread accordingly.
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I seem to be locked out of one of my wallets which as 20k in it.
I haven't changed the password or anything.
Oh gosh! If its locked then Now that 20 k is gone! Thanks for the great insight Rakesh. Do you get a error while opening it? Didnt you back up your wallet.dat file? I'm going to contact the developer directly about this matter. |
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I seem to be locked out of one of my wallets which as 20k in it.
I haven't changed the password or anything.
Oh gosh! If its locked then Now that 20 k is gone! Thanks for the great insight Rakesh. |
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