Just bought s'moar. Dollar cost averaging on its way, especially on the way down as someone else has drilled into our collective heads  

I hope my timing is lucky this time around. Not so much for the small advantage of buying slightly cheaper, but as a good start for a year final bull run in bitcoin's best tradition. Every moon climb begins by tackling a hill.

We that is the fundamental argument is't it?  I mean you ad-hom calling me a loon is not very effective, but that aside, The choice of the Bitcoin camp is to move mass tx *off* chain.  And segwit allowed that.  The Choice of the BitcoinCash crowd is to have every transaction permanently recorded on the main chain.  I think the layer-2 way is right, and therefore I am glad to see hundreds or thousands of tx/sec to move OFF the blockchain.

You have been falling more and more into a kind of bear perspective, especially after siding with that dumbass segwit troll, what was his name, Chip or something [edit - Anunymint]?  Perhaps you are helping us with a kind of indicator of capitulation?  

Remember that Adam (previous thread owner) went a little nutso right before our last bull run, even after the bull run had already started, so there might be a certain kind of WO thread owner spell that is necessary before the BTC price can resume UP...

ATTENTION WO thread activists (if there are any of you left, besides hairyberry?)..... Pee pare ur selfies!!!!!   GET out your petitions, ballots and campaign slogans to convince theymos to keep this thread ALIVE and to assign a new owner (as infofront devolves into moar crazy) !!!!!!!!      

I think that we should boticize you hairbeary.  Perhaps rename as you chartbotcized, a variation of chartbuddy.  

Which one will hit first?  What are the odds of $5k hitting first or $10k hitting first?  50%?  Greater?  Less?

Probably the odds are a bit in favor of $10k hitting first, even though that price point is further away than $5k, no?

Actually, Doug Polk already lost a bet on this point, but he was using $6k as the reference, yet the price had already breached $6k a couple of times at the time of Polks bet that $6k would not be breached again.  But he lost (barely, but still an unambiguous loss).

What if we were to choose a price point that is closer to our current price, such as $8,500, which is still further from us than $5k, yet seems that the odds of $8,500 hitting first are a bit greater than hitting $5k first?  Yes, no?  Anyone?  

Should we attempt to assign more specific probabilities, rather than just saying greater or lesser than 50% odds? I am sure that some folks are more confident than me to make an assertion and to assign a higher probability, and maybe even betting on a scenario that I currently am thinking is a bit less than 50% odds.

Masterluc = Long

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Go to moonn ??

Too soon for these?

Too late.

On beer #5 already.

I don't know any details about the IPO, but I guess the new stakeholders won't be happy to burn fiat to save bcash. If I were old money, I wouldn't put any "real" old money (fiat) into an enterprise without being granted a reasonable degree of control.

edit: strikethroughs and underlines - hunting season, what can I say?

Early indications volume may have bottomed

Never say never about the manipulated bullshit when it comes to the fact that XRP is even on coinmarket cap and there are many pro ripple advocating folks who already concede that XRP is not a blockchain, so what the fuck is it doing on coinmarket cap in the first place?  I would not be surprised by some pumping shenanigans that could bring XRP's market cap above bitcoin... furthermore, there is real shenanigans as well with circulating XRP supply at 40 billion, but total actual supply of XRP is 100 billion.  

Is there something stopping the sales of some of those extra and hidden 60 billion XRP - which could well mean that those other behind the scene XRP should be considered as part of its valuation (showing further that XRP is way overvalued with restricted supply that causes it to be able to pump more easily)?  Actually, no one really knows why XRP was pumped this last time around, but they are certainly doing a lot of marketing and they get a lot of regular press that seems to deceive peeps into thinking that this next thing called XRP (have you heard of it) is the next thing to sliced bread.

As HairyMaclairy said a little bit upthread -- albeit in an erroneous context -- extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I just meant capitulate on the poll. Or are you saying that hodlers don't even do that? If so than I guess I'm not part of the hodlgang any more

Michael Novogratz, the founder of the cryptocurrency asset management firm Galaxy Digital, believes the market has hit a bottom.

The market is experiencing "seller fatigue," Novogratz contended while speaking at Yahoo Finance's second annual All Markets Summit on Thursday, and added further that bitcoin, the biggest cryptocurrency by market capitalization, is now on the upswing.

Indeed, bitcoin is showing signs of life, having persistently found takers around $6,000 in the last three months. Hence, the signs indicate that the bears have likely run dry.

Novogratz also took note of the "classic bottom" in Galaxy Digital's cryptocurrency index, which is down more than 80 percent from its peak.

The valuations are cheap by December standards, and that could entice bargain hunters and investors like Novogratz who view bitcoin as a store of value.

"Bitcoin has held $6,000. Yes, it is off its highs, but it has established itself as a store of value," Novogratz said, according to a report from Reuters. The billionaire investor also told attendees that, in his view, plenty of money is waiting on the sidelines.