Bitcoin Forum
May 21, 2024, 06:04:38 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
  Home Help Search Login Register More  
  Show Posts
Pages: « 1 ... 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 [116] 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 ... 170 »
2301  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 11, 2017, 09:30:41 PM
The meme and word "HODL" came from a misspelling of "hold" posted in a whiskey fueled rant four years ago this month in 2013 on BitcoinTalk. Sellers were panic selling as the market crashed from $900 to $700. HODL was good advice.

https://twitter.com/brucefenton/status/940205591951179776


Actually...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0;topicseen

I was on that night, GameKyuubi was hilarious.

I keep that thread "marked as unread" so I can go back anytime and laugh my ass off all over again.

Have never realised I was the first person to LOL at HODL  Cool

This is how mainstream we are now.

A few days ago someone on my facebook list, non crypto, not BTCT member said we should "HODL!"     zomg

That sounds bearish. It's like the old story of Joe Kennedy, who decided it was time to dump his stocks when his shoeshine boy started giving him stock tips.
2302  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 06:54:26 AM
Ok I’m calling bottom for today.

Your place or mine?

Do I need to buy you dinner first?
2303  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 10, 2017, 02:12:15 AM
Threatening a bit of down again, what would be the correction that would make everyone happy?

Its not far off for me already. at somewhere between about 11-9

It dipped to 12.7 its trying.


I think 10K is bedrock now. A bounce or two off 10K would be nice.
2304  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 09, 2017, 09:30:39 PM
When the hell did BitMEX become the highest volume exchange?
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets

Perhaps this indicates action (shorting it seems) by American institutional investors.
2305  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 09, 2017, 02:14:15 AM
I mean, you live here and now, not hoping to blow myself up, hoping for 79 virgins. When you fcked them all, they are not virgins anymore, are they ?

Doesn't that deal also include unlimited "fresh" young boys?

If they can keep the boys fresh, maybe they can freshen up the virgins too. Maybe stitch on new hymens or something.

Personally I prefer experienced women who know what they're doing. Too much fumbling and angst with virgins.

Good thing too. At my age virgins are few and far between. Young stuff for me is what most here call milfs. Anything over 30 and before menopause is just dandy.  Cool

Be honest. Are the MILFs the main reason you still play live music?
2306  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 09, 2017, 02:12:34 AM
I had anticipated the price testing 10K by the end of the weekend. Now, I'm not so sure.
2307  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2017, 02:58:26 AM
So Cramer just admitted on cnbc that Bitcoin supply was a problem. Because it forces market makers to push the market as high as possible to "shake out more coins". But that's not happening. People aren't taking profits like they expected. He's worried that they'll have to push the Bitcoin market cap to $1T first before they start to see more supply hit the exchanges.

This is fkn hilarious. They can't just call up someone and whip up more stock shares (like they do when other equities launch!). He basically just revealed what everyone has been suspecting for a long time now, that the U.S. stock market is a complete fraud that only enriches the wealthy elites.

I think a fundamental problem with the analyses of these wall street types is that they can't comprehend the power of the HODL.

Many of the early adopters, who are still HODLing, got involved in bitcoin to begin with for philosophical, moral, or political reasons. These HODLers are fundamentally different from 99.9% of people/organizations who are long on a stock.

The typical equities investor will take profits at fairly predictable intervals, and cut their losses at fairly predictable levels. Bitcoin HODLers realize they're invested in a world changing technology that has an incomprehensible upside in price still.


A trillion is only a tripling away.  You aren’t getting my coins for a tripling.  I’m looking 20 years out.  The problem is we believe and they don’t. Wall Street are the weak hands in this game.

That's another way to put it.  Smiley
2308  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 08, 2017, 02:42:51 AM
We're one week into December, and the December poll options were totally obsolete already.

I think we're looking at weekly polls for the foreseeable future.
2309  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 07, 2017, 09:13:29 PM
Do you guys think I should redo the poll, or let it stand?

P.S.
Prices on the Korean exchanges are approaching $20,000.
2310  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2017, 04:24:29 AM
BOOM Another 1%. Finally. NOW were rich.

Speak for yourself whale !


Let's hear it for whale holders.

Every 1% rise is $10,000,000.00 earned for Bitcoin billionaires like the Winklevoss twins.

Add an extra zero for Satoshi, if he hasn't lost his keys.  Shocked

The winklevii will have their revenge. Their net worth will pass Zuck's within the next decade.
2311  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2017, 01:27:33 AM
I love how your all online shopping for teslas n lambos while I'm sitting here on my 0.44 btc hoping for it to hit 25k or something crazy to make my life alittle smeg easier than living pay check to pay check 😂😪

Keep HODLing. Worst case scenario is that you're no worse off than you are now. Best case scenario is that 0.44 BTC will purchase you a few lambos and teslas.
2312  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 03, 2017, 12:55:56 AM
I got this from another thread. It was originally posted by someone on /r/bitcoin:

Quote
I thought I’d share some of my stock market knowledge to help my fellow HODLers get a perspective on the CME futures that will be launching soon.
First let me explain a bit of history: in 1982 CME group launched futures on the S&P500.
What happened next? The stock market went on a spectacular run for 5 years until it eventually crashed in 1987.
Why does this matter for Bitcoin? Because I believe a similar story is about to unfold. This story is the fundamental story about adding leverage to a new underlying asset.
Bitcoin is a relatively “unleveraged” asset as compared to other financial assets. It’s new, it’s untainted. This is significant because of the mechanics of market prices and the future potential of market prices.

When something enters a levering stage, like Bitcoin is about to, the mechanics of the market are HEAVILY weighted to the buy side and not the sell side. Why? Because to be a seller you MUST be a previous buyer (or if you’re shorting, the supply comes from a previous buyer). This may sound weird, but the potential capacity to sell is a function of those who previously bought. This is why in an early market like Bitcoin it’s very hard for it to consistently fall as there’s not a lot of buyers yet built into the price. It takes years and years of accumulation and volatility to create a normalized market. When it’s new, especially pre leverage, it’s very easy to bid it up.
When the CME futures are added, it will likely lead to spectacular rallies, but you need to arm yourself with the knowledge that the eventual buying will plant the seeds of the future capacity to panic.

This is what happened in 1987: The stock market had a 3 day wipeout of over 22%. It took 5 years to develop the buy side enough to create the conditions for panic. This was caused by the CME futures in 1982.
Even since 1987, there has never been a crash of similar magnitude, because that initial levering stage was eventually normalized and a healthy market now exists on both bid side and ask side (sell side).

Why do I tell you this? I want to arm you with expectations to keep your wits when it all goes down. The crash on Bitcoin will likely be of many magnitudes deadlier than the stock market. We just had a 29% correction and it was frankly less than the last two. 20-40% corrections are standard in Bitcoin. When we have the futures levered crash, it’ll likely be 50-60%+. This will be hard on your psychological commitment. Prices do funny things to people’s perception, just like how BCH rose and now suddenly everyone thinks it’s a BTC contender. (Nothing’s changed, price was just pumped up and psychology affected.)

So first thing: prepare for that eventual crash, I suspect it’ll take 1-3 years to create the conditions for an extreme sell side due to leveraging. This sell will start and accelerate, hitting stop losses and margin calls, which is “mechanical selling”. The mechanical selling (forced selling) will cascade and create a feedback loop where more margin calls are hit, more stop losses, etc etc until almost all profits of the last year or 2 are wiped. Combined with the emotional panic caused by extreme falling prices, it will make people think Bitcoin isn’t real and abandon it.

Next thing: the 1987 crash, while devastating in many ways, was completely recovered by the stock market in 8 months. Seriously! The worst crash ever was repaired in 8 months and the market has been much more healthy since then. It is up dramatically since those days, and that crash was just a blip on the screen.
The same will happen with Bitcoin, but my fear is that crash will be worse than even wallsteeters can handle, and it may shake you HODLers to the core.
But if you understand that the powerful selling is just a function of the leveraged previous buying, it’s just fundamentally an opportunity.
I will ride this hard as we lever up, and after an extreme period of euphoria, when Bitcoin is on every front page, when every HODLer owns a mansion, when your government-loving socialist neighbour is asking for your help converting money to Bitcoin, I’ll be lightening up heavily, waiting for the crash. I will bet everything at the bottom of the crash, and sail off into the sunset a crypto-god.

Good luck guys. I hope you weather the next 1-3 years with great savvy.
2313  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 02, 2017, 11:52:32 PM
So has anyone here actually treated themselves to anything after passing an arbitrary milestone?

I bought myself a laptop for Christmas to replace my 7 year old one. I didn't sell any bitcoins though.

I'm thinking about maybe taking some profit at 100K. Although, when bitcoin was 1K I probably said I'd take some profit at 10K.

I took my wife out to dinner last night to the best steakhouse in town.  They asked if we were celebrating anything.  I put "celebrating Bitcoin hitting $10,000" on the online reservation system.  I also mentioned this to everyone that asked us.  Not one person knew what the hell I was talking about.

Sigh

Don't sweat it. The restaurant staff is organising a home invasion as I type.

LMAO. I was thinking about the same thing as I read that.
2314  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 02, 2017, 11:36:06 PM
For anyone other than Bitmain to spam Bcash they'd have to buy it and kiss it goodbye forever as no one other than Bitmain is mining it.

https://cash.coin.dance/blocks/today

No one even bothers to spam them with 0 fee transactions?

Save your breath. Jbreher isn't looking for the truth, and he doesn't give a toss about decentralization.

Incorrect on both counts. I value the truth very highly, and I find your definition of centralization (well, your _apparent_ definition of centralization, as you refuse to define it) as useless.

As evidence, see the following:

Quote

As long as nobody who desires to mine is forcibly barred from mining, then the mining is by definition decentralized. At least as far as can be said for voluntary action.

Force has nothing to do with it.
2315  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 02, 2017, 11:22:31 PM
For anyone other than Bitmain to spam Bcash they'd have to buy it and kiss it goodbye forever as no one other than Bitmain is mining it.

https://cash.coin.dance/blocks/today

Beware your message can be censored.

Yesterday I spoke in this forum about unconfirmed transactions to know if they were spam or not

All my posts have been deleted

PS: this post will be censored in 3 ...., 2 ......., 1 .......

To be accurate, I didn't delete all your posts - just most of them.
...because they were shitposts.
2316  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 01, 2017, 03:44:50 AM

I think to evade US clutches you would need to fake your own death as a minimum. 

Thanks. That's kind of what I figured.  Undecided

Or a proper opaque blockchain.

Just sayin.

The "M" blockchain is the only other one I believe in.  Wink
2317  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 01, 2017, 03:27:20 AM

I think to evade US clutches you would need to fake your own death as a minimum. 

Thanks. That's kind of what I figured.  Undecided
2318  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 01, 2017, 02:47:24 AM
Bearstamp leading the charge back to 10K == bullish.

Countries that do _not_ have capital gains taxes; Switzerland, Seychelles, Hong Kong, Singapore, New Zealand, British Virgin Islands (other Carribean sweat holes too many to remember), Panama, ... i.e. there's quite a few if you do your research.

If exporting crypto from Coinbase to local wallet is considered a taxable event how much is a cross-chain atomic swap going to blow their tiny minds?

Dinosaurs, meteorites, asteroids, etc ... they should just run before they get smashed by a ball of fire impacting on their stupidity, exploding their evil, naked greed and lust for the wealth of others.

I may be asking a question with an obvious answer, but could a US citizen immigrate to Panama (or another CG-free country), then cash in his bitcoins tax free, and be off the hook for taxes in the US?
2319  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 30, 2017, 10:03:50 PM
The law in the US is a bit fucked up, but basically bitcoin is treated like an equity, such as a stock, for tax purposes.

You don't pay taxes until you sell BTC for fiat currency, or trade it for hard assets, like lambos and mansions.
Does that include altcoins as well?

And what would happen if you bought stocks with Bitcoins?

That includes altcoins too. I'm not sure if stocks can be bought directly with bitcoins, but I suspect it would be taxable.

I've often seen accountant types reckon that trading a crypto for another crypto is realising a gain and thus taxable.

As it's not possible to trade a share for another share, you have to turn it into USD first, there's not much of a precedent elsewhere so I've never been too sure about this.

That's interesting. I would not have thought trading directly between cryptos would be a taxable event. That would be a real tax nightmare for many of us.
2320  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 30, 2017, 09:44:01 PM
The law in the US is a bit fucked up, but basically bitcoin is treated like an equity, such as a stock, for tax purposes.

You don't pay taxes until you sell BTC for fiat currency, or trade it for hard assets, like lambos and mansions.
Pages: « 1 ... 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 [116] 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 ... 170 »
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!