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1461  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 14, 2018, 09:04:08 PM
Sorry for stupid question maybe..

Is any similar topic to this one about altcoins and their news?
I like this very active topic format (something similar even with chat) but sometimes want to discuss alts also

The Monero speculation thread is similiar, I think. Also, several regular posters here post there as well.

As for a general alt speculation thread - no, AFAIK. Similar threads have been attempted, but they just turn into an endless stream of shilling.
1462  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 14, 2018, 01:34:43 AM
Google's top fraud fighter explains why it's risky to brag about owning bitcoin

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/13/google-email-fraud-fighter-mark-risher-how-hackers-target-you.html

I see Google are offering USB U2F keys: good. I also see Google are offering an account recovery form if you lose them: bad.


Complete with backdoors for all 3-letter US agencies.
1463  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 13, 2018, 04:40:42 PM
Some people just vote for the highest (mic!) or lowest (r0ach) option every time. I just kind of ignore those when looking at the polls.
1464  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 13, 2018, 03:38:26 PM
my latest tactic for idiots who try to tell me what bitcoin is or isn't or simply people I don't really like ... I try to talk them into buying altcoins, especially ether and ripples tokens, give it the good old pump.

them: what do you think is going on with bitcoin, is it going up?

me: ah, i don't know it's a volatile market anything can happen.

them: should I buy some now or I've missed the boat and have you heard about ether/ripple/litecoin/eos?

me(triggered): yeah you should definitely buy lots of ether, it's the best thing out, once in a lifetime opportunity! (unsaid :to lose all your life savings) ...


... so sick of people asking about crypto and then talking about "blockchain" or shitcoins. Shitcoin scams in our time is a bigger net loser than Mt. Gox, whose customers will actually be made whole in fiat.

Despite my protests and my strong encouragement to buy bitcoin instead, my best friend bought a bunch of ETH at $300 last summer. Bitcoin was around $3,000 at that time.

You literally cannot talk any sense into some people. They're determined to throw their money away.

I think they are the ones that know you were right all along but want to get in and do it a little different than what you said so they can say "see I was right". Even though they don't have the facts there seems to be a inordinate amount of people on this earth that seem to think they are born with knowledge and discount research as fake news. Cheesy

True

Quote from: Hueristic
What does he mean, Ver ratted out his Dad when he was 16?

I had to look that one up too.

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In addition, entrepreneurship played as large a role then as it does now. He started by selling candy bars and pocketing $50 per week. By his 16th birthday, he had saved enough money to purchase himself a white Ford Mustang. His parents largely disapproved of the purchase, and in retaliation, his father placed an ad in the local paper to sell the white Ford Mustang. When Ver called the police, his father was told that they would arrest him if he did not withdraw the ad. This sequence of events caused his parents to kick him out of his house.

https://blockonomi.com/roger-ver-profile/
1465  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 13, 2018, 01:29:32 AM
my latest tactic for idiots who try to tell me what bitcoin is or isn't or simply people I don't really like ... I try to talk them into buying altcoins, especially ether and ripples tokens, give it the good old pump.

them: what do you think is going on with bitcoin, is it going up?

me: ah, i don't know it's a volatile market anything can happen.

them: should I buy some now or I've missed the boat and have you heard about ether/ripple/litecoin/eos?

me(triggered): yeah you should definitely buy lots of ether, it's the best thing out, once in a lifetime opportunity! (unsaid :to lose all your life savings) ...


... so sick of people asking about crypto and then talking about "blockchain" or shitcoins. Shitcoin scams in our time is a bigger net loser than Mt. Gox, whose customers will actually be made whole in fiat.

Despite my protests and my strong encouragement to buy bitcoin instead, my best friend bought a bunch of ETH at $300 last summer. Bitcoin was around $3,000 at that time.

You literally cannot talk any sense into some people. They're determined to throw their money away.
1466  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 12, 2018, 05:33:22 PM
1467  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 12, 2018, 01:01:59 PM
All nice, but i think it is impossible to rate all coins other than bitcoin to be shitcoins.

Yes, for this thread and any bitcoin thread, it is both possible and reasonable to lump all of them together as shit.  Something like this:




Also, it's easy said.... shitcoins.

Yes, easy said, in part because it is off topic, have you heard of that?


If you do, take an effort in telling wich are not shitcoins.I mean, a few months ago, everyone was wild over etherum (and many still are). Its too easy to call it a shitcoin due to bad weather on the market.


Ok  get the fuck out of here, and post in an ethereum thread about your level of loves for ethereum.

Personally; why shouldn't i set some auto-buys on ETH for a nice low low price..

Do whatever the fuck you want, and go talk about it somewhere else.


Divericating my portofolio for a bargain..

Diversification is overrated, especially if you are deciding to diversify into shit.


I mean: its more likely for eth to do 1500 euros, as it would for Bitcoin to do 53000 euro's, right? Both doing X10 from today. Taken from this point it seems like a safe bet..


O.k.  Go have fun, and cash out all of your BTC and anything else that you have and place it on the All wonderful ETH...






If not agree'd thats fine, but tell me why with facts, not opinions pls.

I will tell you with a conclusion.   Go fuck off with your desire for shit coin discussions to some other thread(s).

Welcome to the Wall Observer thread, Dutch!  Kiss
1468  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 11, 2018, 03:10:31 PM
1469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Estimated Hash Rates for the RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti on: September 10, 2018, 03:39:22 PM
Is it technically possible to do any mining on the new ray tracing cores?
1470  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 10, 2018, 04:56:40 AM
I interpret the SEC statements as code for “we think the promoters are engaging in misleading and fraudulent advertising”.

It’s one more nail in the coffin of an ETF this year.


It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the ETFs. This is for the Swedish ETN.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-09/sec-orders-temporary-halt-swedish-bitcoin-ether-etns-citi-launches-game-changing

Meanwhile, Citi is launching an instrument called a "Digital Asset Receipt". Who needs an ETF?

Edit: Link is a repost - hv_ beat me to it.
1471  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 09, 2018, 06:12:18 PM
Yep I also had to downgrade my lifestyle.

Me too tbh, I’ve lived a bit of a false life since last year when I cashed in all my free BCH.

HODLING bitcoin is boring as fuck, having all that money but not being able to spend any of it. Fucking cock tease.
It’ll all be worth it in a few years though.

Same. The funny thing is that I haven't actually cashed out anything. I just looked at my wealth increasing "on paper" last year, and stepped things up accordingly. Ate at fancier restaurants, flew first class, etc.

Now I'm back to Taco Bell and flying coach.
1472  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 09, 2018, 06:02:22 PM


Always so many numbers in charts for me its like 1 = hodl all the way to 12 = still hodl and what nbr 13 is gonna be on this chart  will still be hodl for me     Cheesy
                                                       

It's uncanny how well the ol' bubble cycle chart fits, isn't it?
1473  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 09, 2018, 04:24:45 AM
Everyone has been extremely bearish. Could be a bullish sign, as Theymos mentioned.

At any rate, I can't imagine us going below $3K.
1474  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 09, 2018, 02:38:01 AM
Fuck this just capitulated on ETH and sold for BTC.

I'm holding my ETH in hopes we get a pump when futures launch. OTOH, I don't hold enough to lose any sleep over.


I believe ETH will probably die, but not yet. Consider the fact that this is the first, brutal bear market for an ETH holder. It must be pretty scary. I believe this helps cause an exaggerated ETH (and other altcoin) decline. There are no war-forged ETH veterans yet.
1475  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 09, 2018, 12:15:19 AM
...
But when did whales enter crypto market?
...
Well, if I remember correctly, this term became popular during the peaks from 2013 ($266 and $1242), Mt.Gox, Willy, the Bearwhale and stuff... If someone bought at the 2013 top, he/she/it 'made' ~ 400% as of today (in fiatmoney).

You might have bought at the recent $19666 top, not sure what you can expect in five years from now. However, if you bought the top, hodling might be an appropriate strategy. If you're a moderate gambler, cost averaging on the 'way down' could be your strategy. Want to feed the whales? Just sell. If you want your kids to laugh at you in five years, buy shitcoins...

If you really want to know when whales entered the market, look back and see what date Satoshi mined the first BTC.
1476  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2018, 09:06:14 PM
well, as a quite newbie (10 months) in crypto, i have to admit that im losing faith right now.
I want to be a holder (yes thats how we write this right?) but what worries me is not the ups and downs itself, but the rediculous drops that happened 3 times now... This means that some people actually can control my money.... again... And i dont like it.
Who can garantee that not all bitcoin eventually evaporates?
I mine the shit out of my equipment, and all it does this year is lose value... i cant mine enough to even increase in fiat value. Thats hugely dissapointing...

Everyone has a opinion here in bitcointalk, even some experts out there. It ranges from 2k to 150k dec18. How to take anyting in between serious? I see pretty graphs, all made in a way someone thinks instead of based on facts or knowledge, calculations, etc. Whats the value of it? Zilch...
Take a look back to all those pretty graphs... I bet none came actually true...

crypto? I think ponzi more and more...


Proof me wrong, please....

Here's a bitcoin chart going back to 2010. How many crashes and bear markets have we had already?
Long term, what direction is bitcoin going in?



1477  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2018, 07:24:00 PM


https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/Gqzx8jnU-BITCOIN-LEGENDARY-ANALYSIS-LONG-TERM/
1478  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 08, 2018, 06:14:09 AM
Totally spitballing here, but this sort of resembles September 2015, right before we doubled by November.

Just spit-balling here....
What do people here think drives the price of BTC (either direction) the most?

Human psychology
1479  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2018, 12:54:45 AM
I think we deserve a clarification. Seriously.

I'll let you know on Dec. 31st.  Wink

If BTC hits 6 figures this year, I'll blow everyone in this thread.

Saving this just in case. 

Can we opt out? Pretty please.

No.
1480  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2018, 12:53:07 AM
No public BJ promises made in the WO thread have ever been honored as far as I know. Bitcorn can go as high as we like, and no mouth muscle will be involved.

We need a trustless global BJ system



The trustless, global blockchain for narcissistic billionaires to circle jerk and blow each other.
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