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2421  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 22, 2017, 06:14:34 AM
This has been me all summer.


Friend: Hey I guess I should have listened to you this whole time when you told me to buy bitcoins, good for you. Can I ask you a question?

Me: Sure (thinking: ok, time to point him to a bitcoin exchange finally)

Friend: I've been reading about this new up and coming cryptocurrency <insert alt here>, do you think I should invest in this new coin?

Me: *facepalm*

Hahaha. I've had those same conversations. I've sort've been the bitcoin guy in my circles. I've had more people ask me about the coin who shall not be named over the last few months than have asked me about bitcoin in the last couple years.
I guess a lot of people think they missed the boat on BTC, so they're looking for the next big thing.
2422  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 22, 2017, 04:10:10 AM
Using physical metals as the base unit of account and settlement (Exter's Pyramid) allows you to remove all middlemen and if you would like some other type of convenience, you can then build a centralized system on top of it.

So how would build a centralized or decentralized system on top of metal without an enormous amount of counter-party risk? How would you guarantee who held what, for whom, and how much? Goldmoney.com is currently already doing it, but you have to fully trust that they secure your metal and will deliver it in full on demand. And that it will never get seized. HUGE counter-party risk.

Gold backed, nation state issued currency.
Because certainly there was no usury going on when the USD was backed by gold. /s
2423  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 21, 2017, 06:34:04 PM
What would continue to drive the market up higher from here? Serious question.

What always did.
Bitcoin is an excellent store of value. Can't be confiscated. There are 16,4 million bitcoins currently in circulation. There will be only 21 million. There are more than 7 billion humans on this planet. Central banks are printing new money in hundreds of billions every month. This is more than enough to drive bitcoin price to really insane levels.

Yes yes, those are all valid reasons long term for the price of bitcoin to rise to great new heights in the future.

So let me rephrase my question.

What specifically will be so earth shattering for Bitcoin within the next 6 months that price will rise from here to "insane levels"?

You guys do realize that the total crypto market hit a high of $116B, and now with even this mega pump we are only back up $92B? Not even back to over $100B, nor do I see that happening within 6 months.

If you believe in the exponential trend theory of bitcoin, the price should be around $4,500 now. The exponential trend fell largely out of favor during the long bear market but was popular in the earlier days.
So, a sharp, 50%+ rise may just be a return to the trendline.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470453.0
2424  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2017, 09:02:32 PM
only 15 to 25 have made there  guess on when we brake another ATH             ATH  ATH   ATH   GAME   !!!!

and get paid by me for the one guesses most closly ( 0.25BTC ) as another ( 0.25 BTC) for giving the best explanation why the raise at that time

anybody more wants to take a guess feel free to take a date

( for the ones that don't trust me to pay still just waiting for a trusty member to react on this and be confirmt by 2 other trusted members and i deposit the amount with them ......)

ONLY GOOD INTENTIONS

 Wink Wink Wink Wink

I'll say July 31st. The dump happens the next day.  Wink
2425  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 19, 2017, 08:14:18 PM
Yeah, I am also wondering what's going on.

So it's went over 80% and has now dropped below. Why would they do this?

What is the advantage of doing that?


The advantage is making a shit ton of money. If I had control of a significant amount of hashrate (2%+) I'd be changing my signalling to manipulate the markets.
It could be just as easy as:
  • Turn on signalling
  • Signalling goes over 80%
  • BTC price increases
  • Dump BTC
  • Turn off signalling
  • Load up on cheaper coins
2426  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 15, 2017, 04:17:07 AM
LMFTFY:

2 weeks is half an eternity on cryptoland, many will succumb, thats how we lose good people weak hands.
2427  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 13, 2017, 06:11:54 PM
Our new Avenger Joe! Already received ~4 btc in donations.  Cool



kudos to all those who donated anything to him. not just because of the act of donation but because they had to manually type in a (case sensitive) bitcoin address from a picture with no QR CODE Tongue

He's now up to 6.42 BTC. Good for him.
https://blockchain.info/address/1GwtZF9QFKWNqCRHLx1Y9adGcrhQSUnNfY
2428  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buying BTC with storage space (Sia/Storj/Burst...): Price analysis on: July 13, 2017, 03:20:59 AM
Interesting thread, I'll start following.
I have some SIAcoin I've GPU-mined, I know it's possible to earn 'em renting space, I'll pay attention if it's worth.

Me too. From what I've heard, the problem is that no one is renting out space yet.
2429  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 13, 2017, 02:44:00 AM
http://mailchi.mp/bitmex/crypto-trader-digest-1307661?e=2eeec28d17

"Many people smarter than me have opined on the issues surrounding the Bitcoin scaling debate. As such, I will only focus on the relevant dates traders should etch into their memory.
July 14th
On this date ..."

"Jihan Wu, Bitmain CEO, already opined that he will hard fork regardless of whether UASF succeeds or fails. It is not guaranteed that a hard fork could happen without issues, but this is the best time from their perspective to attempt one. Should it succeed, Bitcoin will quickly erase all prior losses and surpass $3,000. "

So the market will be delighted that a handful of Chinese miners are in full control of Bitcoin?

That's a really fucking stupid supposition.

The market will be delighted that Segwit passes. After that, Jihan and Roger Ver can shove btc1 up each other's asses.. If they do decide to fork off, no relevant economic nodes will join them.

I'm still of the belief that this whole segwit2x fiasco is a way for Jihan to save face, while accepting segwit.
2430  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 12, 2017, 07:01:50 PM
I've been out of the game for a while.... questions:

What are the chances of a split chain on this upcoming Aug 1st drama?

Are most of you holding your coins?

If there is a split chain that survives.... will Coinbase give you access to both chains?

Thanks

  • <15%
  • I am.
  • Judging by the way they handled the ETH fork - probably. Better just to store it yourself.
2431  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: JarzikCoin code aka segwit2xcoin already collapsing on: July 12, 2017, 04:24:11 AM
https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/issues/65#issuecomment-314221337

Developers are so incompetent that they propose a secret testnet, so it doesn't get attacked.

Fantastic! Just like Buggy Unlimited clowns resorted to closed source development to get a patch out, now these morons want to do closed source testing, for a totally realistic and robust test only to hardfork in a matter of a few months.

Anyone supporting this mess is losing it or is being paid to do so.

I wonder what the big-block crowd imagines is going to happen if they keep plowing forward. Do they really think keeping their code in some kind of safe kindergarten sandbox is the way to prepare it for deployment? That there are not hordes of drooling hackers waiting to tear into it and wreak havoc if it were imposed on Bitcoin?

I tend to envision the security situation with Bitcoin as being like the Battle of Helms Deep in the movie The Two Towers. Bitcoin has been under ferocious assault from hackers since it became worthwhile to target. If they aren't ready to cope with that then they have no business developing software and then expecting the rest of us to place our trust in it.

This.
They considered a few ASICs mining the testnet coin, and spiking the difficulty, to be a major "attack". If their coin ever goes live they'll see what a real attack is, when there's basically the hacker equivalent of full scale nuclear war being waged against them.
2432  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Software Engineer Buys 20,000 BTC in 2010, Quits Job to Travel Around Globe on: July 12, 2017, 04:12:11 AM
Another fake story.

To buy Bitcoin in 2010 you must to be an oracle, a choosen one , a son of a God..There was no info available about BTC till 2013.

But nice try...I like this story about unnamed billionars and crypto early adopters.  Roll Eyes

I'm been here since 2011. This forum was quite busy already, and there was already a pretty large bitcoin community when I discovered it.

And there was tons of info, including mainstream media stories, in 2011.
2433  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 11, 2017, 02:30:27 PM
If the sort of dystopian, hyper-inflationary future that gold bugs predict actually happens, it seems likely to me that there will be jackbooted thugs kicking down their doors to take their gold. This has happened before, even in the US.

If they want to steal my bitcoins, they'd better be able to crack SHA-256.
2434  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 11, 2017, 03:31:35 AM
I tried to delete a post for the first time ever. I accidentally deleted the post that followed the one I meant to delete.
So, if I deleted your post, there's a 50% chance I'm sorry.  Undecided

#noobmod

OMG!!!!!!!!


We need a testnet WO thread for the Mod, so there is no fucking up the pure and unfettered nature of the real deal WO.   Shocked

Haha, just call me the jgarzik of WO.
2435  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 11, 2017, 01:43:52 AM
I tried to delete a post for the first time ever. I accidentally deleted the post that followed the one I meant to delete.
So, if I deleted your post, there's a 50% chance I'm sorry.  Undecided

#noobmod
2436  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 11, 2017, 01:37:45 AM
It's not clear to me, is what just happened even possible on main net?
They should be thanking whoever accelerated the '6000 blocks in one day' for showing them their fundamental brokenness bugs (how fucked they are) ... instead we get BS talking points about ASICs on testnet, wah-wah, who knew?

This.

And gmaxwell hit it out of the park:

Quote
Re "attacks" -- btc1 nodes haven't mined a block for a day. That isn't an attack, that's just a failure.

Crying attack isn't helpful-- it's often not true and at the end of the day the software must survive in an adversarial environment where attacks exist. (Though AFAICT this issue can result in pure btc1 attacker free environments stalling, and BU containing environments forking-- no attackers required).

The issue isn't a new one, this was raised as a concern and use of the 'hardfork bit' (most significant bit which must not be set on existing nodes) rather than a large block requirement was recommended.

    0.840 MB/block.

Which is less than 1 and segwit isn't even enabled yet. Moreover, btc1 by default will not make a block >1MB even if there are transactions in the mempool for it. You guys are just making your code all the more frighting by vigorously denying the issues.

Perhaps instead of making excuses you should resolve the fork? Maybe then write some tests?

And then he gets called a troll.
2437  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 09, 2017, 02:42:34 AM
Welcome back gentlemen. Feel free to message me if you have requests, suggestions, concerns, etc.

Wish you best, infofront!
Congrats and good luck.

Thanks buddy!
2438  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 09, 2017, 02:13:42 AM
Welcome back gentlemen. Feel free to message me if you have requests, suggestions, concerns, etc.
2439  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer: BTC/USD Price Tracking and Discussion 2.0 (Unmoderated) on: July 08, 2017, 01:56:22 AM
I was actually a little worried about "the flippening", which seemed imminent. Now it just seems silly.
2440  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer: BTC/USD Price Tracking and Discussion 2.0 (Unmoderated) on: July 07, 2017, 04:27:36 PM
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