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1221  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: July 04, 2013, 03:26:36 PM
If you're building a large rig and you DON"T have a bag of at least 1,000 zipties, you're doing it wrong.

So true lol. I keep a stock pile of Zip ties around in case I get in the mood to do a little rearranging/house cleaning. I think every GPU in my farm has at least 2-3 zip ties each in some shape, form, or fashion.
Forget zip ties...

If this doesn't solve it, than nothing will.
 Grin
1222  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: July 04, 2013, 10:04:47 AM
Looking for these? A vertical wind heat sink
http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/17642.pdf
Cheesy

For those who asked whether the fans within Jalapenos are blowing upwards or downwards, it's upwards in the original package. I have removed the casting and flipped the fan to blow downwards.

I agreed that BFL might have tested both way and decided that blowing upwards is the best way but this is with the constraints of the casting. So without the casting, i think it's better to blow downwards.

Oh! So that's the secret!!! Turning the fan! :-)
Thanks!
1223  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CoinByCall.com - Get paid in BTC for listening radio over the phone on: July 04, 2013, 08:23:05 AM
The Portuguese number is no longer working.
It says "Invalid or non existent number".
Could you confirm this, please?
1224  Local / Portugal / Re: Ganhar bitcoin com chamadas telefónicas on: July 04, 2013, 08:21:14 AM
Antes também, mas agora, daqui do emprego liguei só para ver o que dava e deu o mesmo sinal de inexistente...
1225  Local / Portugal / Re: Ganhar bitcoin com chamadas telefónicas on: July 03, 2013, 10:16:53 PM
Pior: já tentaram ligar hoje para o número PT?
Acabei de tentar duas vezes e... :p M.I.A.

Qual é o teu operador?

Meo :-)

Funcou?

Então o problema deve ser lá com o sistema, também obtenho "número não atribuído", começava a imaginar se seria a Zon a bloquear...

:-) Não sei até que ponto eles teriam interesse nisso. Manhosos como são, era uma boa desculpa para eles te aparecerem com uma bela factura dizendo que no contracto está explicita a política de utilização Responsável!!! Muhahahahah!!!
1226  Local / Portugal / Re: ASICminer USB miner 0.99 BTC on: July 03, 2013, 10:15:09 PM
Pois... mas lojas em Portugal que vendam (seja em loja física ou pela net) um Samsung em BTC...
Portanto, tive mesmo de converter em PP.
Mesmo assim, cada BTC foi ganha com suor e permitiram-me esta compra.
Caso contrário, teria de continuar à espera de um milagre no meu salário para o poder comprar...
1227  Local / Portugal / Re: Ganhar bitcoin com chamadas telefónicas on: July 03, 2013, 10:03:42 PM
Pior: já tentaram ligar hoje para o número PT?
Acabei de tentar duas vezes e... :p M.I.A.

Qual é o teu operador?

Meo :-)

Funcou?
1228  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: July 03, 2013, 09:24:18 PM
Considering the size of the bfl units I could easily design and 3D print the ducting needed for this. Cheesy

You'll never imagine how I'd love to have money to buy a 3d printer...!!! Cheesy
But I'll start by rapid prototyping in the old fashioned cardboard and MacGuiver's duct tape!

In Jalapeno cold air is pulled from the below intake , pushed upwards and vented through the upper exaust.
Sorry to ask, but are you sure?
I've read everywhere that it is not the case.
Ya, my Jalapeno's fan was blowing air upwards, pulling air thru the heatsink.


Side View:

    |=============
    |           /-------->----> 
    |        FAN          |
    |     HEATSINK     |
    |       /               |
--->----/ CHIP         |
    ==============

Nice then!!! Even so, I'll try to cool it a little more!
1229  Local / Portugal / Re: ASICminer USB miner 0.99 BTC on: July 03, 2013, 09:19:34 PM
Façam lá os vestidos que eu ainda acabo a comprar alguns para a minha Maria!
De resto, eu posso hoje dizer que praticamente comprei um telemóvel novo com BTC...
(A minha atrasada prenda de aniversário...)
Não foi directamente não, mas converti-as em PayPal e daí paguei.
Podemos considerar como sendo uma compra com bitcoins?
1230  Local / Portugal / Re: Ganhar bitcoin com chamadas telefónicas on: July 03, 2013, 09:14:20 PM
Pior: já tentaram ligar hoje para o número PT?
Acabei de tentar duas vezes e... :p M.I.A.
1231  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: July 03, 2013, 04:51:28 PM
Hi Trillian!! Nice to hear from you!
Have you seen Zaphod?

I think this is going to be one of those 'sounds better in theory' kind of things. Still give it a go and report back with pics of your crazy creation, of course! I suspect that the restriction of flow from the pipe head alone will cancel out most of the hot buoyant air effect you are trying to exploit. I would confidently say that it WILL have some airflow but the question becomes "is it sufficient?".
Yes, the last question is the right point.
One of the properties of the Venturis effect is exactly the thermal properties of the low pressure and air flow acceleration.
In short, by accelerating the air on the constriction, the pressure drops making it more permeable to absorb heat.
You see this effect exactly on any Kelvin's refrigeration cycle where you compress the gas (R14, R15, R134a, etc) before it reaches the condenser pressurized, absorbing the heat inside the chamber. When it expands it cools down but the thermal energy is still the same, so we need the radiator.
Since I'm going to use air, the properties are quite a lot different, specially on the Thermal Capacitance side, but the principle remains.
So that's the correct question: is it sufficient? (for a sneak peak, see the link in end of this post :p)

I am not sure about the H-chimney design, I think the two 90 degree bends the flow would have to make would limit the momentum and flow rate of the rising air. I would almost bet BTC that a single straight tube of constant diameter would be better.
The H is to be put in the house exterior.
We use them quite a lot here in our houses chimneys because it has two advantages: the Venturi effect (again) sucking the flow from inside the pipe and no water in.

The H is mounted vertically.
The one I showed is for vertical mount but there are others for wall mount.

EDIT: I re-read your idea about putting the fan on it too. I was thinking you meant it would work passively. I suspect you will still find that having this contraption with the fan(s) on top will still be worse than just having the fan next to the heat sink as normal.
The fan is just to accelerate the air flow, somehow, not sure if in the intake or in the exhaust.

Where are all the process engineers / industrial chemists to model this scenario for us??? Do we have to bribe them with BTC lol?
I never finished university in Mechanics Engineering but it was a problem with maths and some Vapor Pressure charts in Thermodynamics :-p But hey! Here I am!! Just don't ask me to put some math on this.. I'd fail providing reliable numbers... :-(

Was this your motivation behind your idea by any chance? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_updraft_tower
No, it wasn't, but nice to acknowledge something new!

My motivation was this:

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/144731-the-wind-tunnel-computer-that-hopes-to-conquer-cancer
The difference?
This is horizontal and I want to have it vertical.
1232  Local / Portugal / Re: ASICminer USB miner 0.99 BTC on: July 03, 2013, 04:46:10 PM
Sobre valorizados sim, mas também porque a oferta é pouca...
De resto, minam tudo o que SHA256, logo não são tão obsoletas como isso.
Mas a realidade é que também não sabemos o rumo do BTC. Se minarmos umas 100 BTC e este atingir os $300... diria que é um excelente ROI!
1233  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: July 03, 2013, 09:36:12 AM
In Jalapeno cold air is pulled from the below intake , pushed upwards and vented through the upper exaust.
Sorry to ask, but are you sure?
I've read everywhere that it is not the case.

Even a few posts ago in this topic:
Flash those suckers to 8GH/s and then tell us what the temps are!  Cool Cool
Still trying to get that Atmel AVR Dragon. It's not quite accessible here in singapore...

looks like a £1 notebook cooler underneath those bad boys Wink i assume its blowing down?
Good eyesight Grin but it's suppose to blow upwards instead. Didn't switch that on because RPi doesn't have enough power once I plug that in...

wont it end up fighting the fans blowing air down? or are you trying to get it to blow the cooler air from underneath upwards?

i have one blowing over my USB ASICs atm Wink
1234  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 1 BTC Free on: July 03, 2013, 09:29:16 AM
only 5 more are accepted, to number #300
Wee!!! Good luck everyone!
1235  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: July 03, 2013, 08:43:34 AM
Wine coolers or refrigerators are not build for that. The Compressor will (constantly) overheat and then die ....
That's right.
But let's stop and think for a while:
I've seen very stupid cooling solutions, including BFL's take on that matter.
It's quite well known that cool air is heavier than hot air.
Hot air always flows naturally upwards.
The Jalapeño pushes cold air from the top and pushes it downwards to the other side's venting.
But that's not even close to smart...
When my Jalapeño arrives, I intend to remove the case (and fan, possibly) and create a vertical wind tunnel with two cones, to create a Venturi effect on the heat sink.

The fan will move to the top cone, forcing the air out or to the bottom cone, forcing the air in (haven't decide or tested yet).
If possible, I'll have the hot air exhaust to the exterior using an H pipe chimney:
1236  Local / Portugal / Re: ASICminer USB miner 0.99 BTC on: July 03, 2013, 07:33:01 AM
Eu para todos os efeitos, estou sentado à espera da minha Jalapeño... Smiley
Mas se pudesse ter um parzinho destas já... 1BTC por 300mh/s não é demasiado, especialmente pelo que se poupa em electricidade.
A minha questão é: e quanto tempo para o break even?

Da Jalapeño? Não sei... Eles ainda estão a despachar Setembro...
Destas? Como é para adicionar a hardware já existente, acho que o breakeven será mais rápido, mas sozinhas será de cerca de 180 dias.
Com o hardware que já tenho, será cerca de 108 dias.
Isto tudo contando que teria um par delas na mão na próxima semana, por exempo, duas semanas no máximo.
1237  Local / Portugal / Re: ASICminer USB miner 0.99 BTC on: July 02, 2013, 09:06:28 PM
Eu para todos os efeitos, estou sentado à espera da minha Jalapeño... Smiley
Mas se pudesse ter um parzinho destas já... 1BTC por 300mh/s não é demasiado, especialmente pelo que se poupa em electricidade.
1238  Local / Portugal / Re: Ganhar bitcoin com chamadas telefónicas on: July 02, 2013, 10:31:27 AM
Recebi o primeiro payout!

Isto sem o Liechtenstein é muito lento...

O pagamento foi realizado segundos após o saldo ser atingido, tal como é descrito no site.

https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/0ce24a04c53f7395ae4610e7f8bef3fe90406bf407c343059e99976970ea5c69

0,05BTC nem é nada mau.
Eu andei aqui a pensar e lembrei-me de duas coisas...
Primeiro, o router do Meo dá para configurar o voip do Sapudas na 2ª porta.
Segundo, o voip do Sapudas também tem chamadas grátis para rede nacional, ilimitadas.
Dá para ter uma segunda linha constantemente ocupada, ou é impressão minha?
O que me lembrei foi de um modem (creio que até tenho um par de síncronos lá por casa, antigos, que dava para programar o número para se ligarem sem PC) a religar automaticamente no caso de cair a chamada.
Ou estou a pensar mal a coisa?

Já agora, o tarifário do batráquio:http://pkgadmin.sapo.pt/html/sapoAdsl_v2/tarifario_voip.html
1239  Local / Portugal / Re: ASICminer USB miner 0.99 BTC on: July 02, 2013, 10:03:38 AM
Se tivesse BTC suficiente, até alinhava...
Eu até tenho um par de BTC (troquei umas quantas na semana passada para paypal a ver se substituo este raio de tlm que está a dar o berro não tarda nada), mas não me levem a mal por querer certezas (é que custaram muito a ganhar, lol!)
1240  Local / Portugal / Re: ASICminer USB miner 0.99 BTC on: July 02, 2013, 07:48:42 AM
Ok...
E nesse caso, quantos somos? (ou quantas queremos encomendar?)
A quem pagamos?
Quem recebe e redistribui a encomenda?
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