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2461  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiDICE.com - Verified rolls, up to 64,000x winning on: June 09, 2012, 03:16:24 PM
ok, i'm confused. the site's working fine - that's not the confusion.

i see the payout odds for < 48000 are a bit over 73%, with payout of 1.343x. unless i'm a bigger idiot then i think i am, that means over multiple bets, you're garunteed to win 23% more oftne then you lose, meaning it's effectivley a garunteed way to increase your supply of income.

obviously, i'm missing something here. little help?

FTFY

You're not doubling your money every time you win, you are getting 1.343x your money. So the expected value is
Code:
((732422*1.343)+(267578*0.005))/1000000=0.984980636

Plus, you pay transaction fees both ways.

would you mind trotting that past me again? where'd ya get the 26758*0.005?

i'f i'm understandign the math there correctly, you're saying that over time, you'd lose a small amount. about 2.5%, is that right?
2462  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiDICE.com - Verified rolls, up to 64,000x winning on: June 09, 2012, 02:41:35 PM
ok, i'm confused. the site's working fine - that's not the confusion.

i see the payout odds for < 4800 are a bit over 73%, with payout of 1.343%. unless i'm a bigger idiot then i think i am, that means over multiple bets, you're garunteed to win 23% more oftne then you lose, meaning it's effectivley a garunteed way to increase your supply of income.

obviously, i'm missing something here. little help?
2463  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiDICE.com - Verified rolls, up to 64,000x winning on: June 09, 2012, 01:53:14 PM
welp, just made my first bet with the Dice. *waits patiently*

EDIT: WINNAR! .25 bet, got a little over .5 back. that's... snazzy, is what that is.
2464  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What do you do with mined coins? on: June 09, 2012, 12:46:15 PM
so far i've hoarded, but that's cause my mining rate is crap (350ish mhash) so i've only got about 16.3 btc right now.

when i actually have enough to DO something with it, it'll be a cyclical pattern - mine buy more hardware, mine, buy more hardware...
2465  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA Rig Photos on: June 06, 2012, 05:34:56 PM
just wait, when i have me some fpga's i'm gonna make a REAL snazzy set up for em! with etched brass enclosures and and craved wooden frames and... *trails off*
2466  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA development board "Lancelot" - official discussion thread. on: June 05, 2012, 04:48:21 PM
got 4 samples today.... Cheesy

oh, you TEASE.
2467  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA Rig Photos on: June 05, 2012, 02:29:26 PM
the more i see pics like this, the more i am convinced of the successful generation of income from mining... pity it'll take me ages to save enough for an FPGA with my current (utterly crap) job and single 6870 GPU mining...

We offer a financing option at BTCFPGA.com - send an email through the web site to get started.


...will do.
2468  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [400GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 05, 2012, 11:59:59 AM
well, technically i don't see why it doesn't. my understanding is it's all down to probability and random numbers, which, in the end, is "luck" if i've ever heard it.
2469  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA Rig Photos on: June 05, 2012, 11:57:06 AM
the more i see pics like this, the more i am convinced of the successful generation of income from mining... pity it'll take me ages to save enough for an FPGA with my current (utterly crap) job and single 6870 GPU mining...
2470  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BitForce SC - full custom ASIC on: June 05, 2012, 05:00:32 AM
that is some tech porn if i ever saw it.
2471  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA Rig Photos on: June 05, 2012, 02:04:11 AM
stop making me want to buy things i can't afford, Cablepair!
2472  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Introducing the ModMiner Quad 800Mhash @ 40 Watts http://www.BTCFPGA.com on: June 05, 2012, 01:49:39 AM
as a call center rep, i work from the privacy of my own home filing insurance claims for lost/stolen/damaged cell phones, i handle credit cards, complete with CVV numbers quite frequently.

so yea, people do all sorts with their credit cards over the phone.
2473  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [400GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 05, 2012, 01:46:43 AM
that... was brilliant.
2474  Economy / Services / Re: 3D Prints on: June 04, 2012, 09:26:26 PM
what level fo detail can your printer handle, he means. i think. say, a wall 1mm thick? less? ahole with what diameter? raised letters?
2475  Economy / Services / Re: 3D Prints on: June 04, 2012, 07:42:39 PM
not to step on toms toes at all, but if you need a model made, i would be happy to assist as an intermediary. Cheesy
2476  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Here is how to compensate for bitstream developers *alternative version* on: June 04, 2012, 11:26:55 AM
And that server will be DDOS-ed instantly....

and that isn't a problem with ET's current system? there are ways to defend against it.
2477  Economy / Services / Re: 3D Prints on: June 04, 2012, 10:33:45 AM
as a 3d modeller - cool. i've been using shapeways for the printing of my models, but i might toss some BTC your way.
2478  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Here is how to compensate for bitstream developers *alternative version* on: June 04, 2012, 01:35:09 AM
i like it. i like it alot. though of course who manages the pool would be a big decision given the community wide effect it would have. but i personally would happily send a portion of my hash power to such a pool to support contiuned software dev.

of course, a problem i see is what if, for example, i'm sending 5% of my hash power, but i don't use CGminer (i don't currently. the initial config makes  my head hurt so i haven't hunkered down and done it.) in that scenario, it seems somewhat unfair for my hash power to go to paying for something i'm not using/supporting.

i still like the overall concept - just a potential issue i see.
2479  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Algorithmically placed FPGA miner: 245MH/s/chip and still rising on: June 04, 2012, 01:23:56 AM
seems there's gotta be some sort of reasonably fair compensation method we could all agree on... though i've no idea what it is. upfront pricing is disagreeable to some, this commission idea disagreeable to some... hmm. this just struck me as i type this.

what if the commision system was intentionall shut off say, a year from now (or whatever) after appropriate compensation had been given? ET gets the compensation he feels apropriate, we get another small increase in hash, and no one pays upfront either.
2480  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would mining look like... on: June 03, 2012, 04:34:49 AM
but if there was no profit to be made mining - why would anyone do it? in non-bitcoin economies, there's still massive amounts of computer power used and the like. it's all handled and paid for by banks and their transactions fees and interests rates. why, in the case of no available profit from any source, would anyone participate in an activity  that would cost massive amounts of money in hardware and electricity?
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