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301  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: October 18, 2013, 11:54:56 AM
Keep in mind that although this isn't a "forced" refund but I need to refund all the BTC I received from KnC until it's all gone. It is not my BTC and I do not want it! So I will refund starting with the highest machine number downwards even though you didn't fill in a refund form. I will take care of the PayPal people first...
302  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: October 18, 2013, 11:45:39 AM
Looks like we're having the same issue as http://coiningsolutions.com/ in KnC account it says shipped but no tracking. I will keep you guys updated though. When I have time I will make a website like http://coiningsolutions.com/ for updates so you guys don't have to keep checking this thread etc. I will close down this thread once we have everything up and running and will be using the website and phone to communicate etc. Smiley
303  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: October 18, 2013, 11:18:04 AM
My mistake in that case they do. I was thinking that since people bailed out would that mean everyone else's "shares" go up due to that...

What do you mean by your share do not increase hashrate? So the hashrate will be based on 200Ghs each machine or 275Ghs?

So when are you getting the mining equipment, and when can you get it set up and mining? Time is of the essence, right?

I'd just like to restate thechevalier's question, especially since I'm looking to stay on at the moment.

Yes I am will start mining ASAP.

sorry if this is asked and answered, but this thread is becoming bloated.
1. Thanks for doing this.
2. Is this a forced refund or can we stay in?
3. Do our shares increase in hashrate if you stay in?
4.Hosted KnC mining by byteminr is paying fresh coins, the machines are real. Have you had shipping estimates from KnC?

thanks

I am trying to refund everyone right now. I would like to refund BTC until I run out. I am getting more BTC refund from the Avalon Group Buy. This isn't a forced refund. Paypal people please try to contact Paypal and get your funds back because they frozed my account. The only thing I can do is refund you in BTC when I have given refunds to all BTC people. I highly thank all those who stuck by me until now and I will honor your shares of course. Your shares do not increase in hashrate. They stay the same. I believe the miners are shipped and should be here soon Smiley

Again I thank you those who stuck it out with me. I will start organizing spreadsheets etc. for payouts. The wait is almost over! Thank you for your support everyone!
304  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: October 17, 2013, 11:12:06 PM
Please refund to 1FMjXR8GgrjVmpbvTjmM1GfuGZXkR3AZja

Thank you!
305  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: October 17, 2013, 11:08:34 PM
Sorry I forgot to enable public mode Tongue fixed now.
306  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: October 17, 2013, 10:50:09 PM
There's a sale for this PSU. I will buy 1 for each machine - what do you guys think? Fees will be split based on shares. Sale ends today.

Is that big enough?

~chevalier~

Should be. I think the Saturn only pulls 300-350W based on the people who received them.
307  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: October 17, 2013, 10:40:29 PM
There's a sale for this PSU. I will buy 1 for each machine - what do you guys think? Fees will be split based on shares. Sale ends today.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088

Also every 2 weeks I will make a new spread sheet for payout:

First spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah5wT_NTrV00dG95dUFocDVNZWVFQnQ2ODVRQWxjaXc&usp=docslist_api#gid=0
308  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: October 17, 2013, 08:29:30 PM
If you are staying then please fill out this form. BTC Share buyers only ... I may consider Paypal if my account gets unfrozen. Again they are frozen because people kept reversing payments. I seriously HATE Paypal. Thanks again for those who stuck by me until now! I will NOT let you down again!

Get Paid Form!

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DQN0BuGAsNbz8SEDSHOHFcQ0qWZWyAwNQ_9tcW58DWQ/viewform

ALSO TO BE SAFE PLEASE PM ME YOUR PAYOUT ADDRESS! This is so I don't pay some random person who filled out the form Wink
309  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: October 17, 2013, 07:13:55 PM
So when are you getting the mining equipment, and when can you get it set up and mining? Time is of the essence, right?

I'd just like to restate thechevalier's question, especially since I'm looking to stay on at the moment.

Yes I am will start mining ASAP.

sorry if this is asked and answered, but this thread is becoming bloated.
1. Thanks for doing this.
2. Is this a forced refund or can we stay in?
3. Do our shares increase in hashrate if you stay in?
4.Hosted KnC mining by byteminr is paying fresh coins, the machines are real. Have you had shipping estimates from KnC?

thanks

I am trying to refund everyone right now. I would like to refund BTC until I run out. I am getting more BTC refund from the Avalon Group Buy. This isn't a forced refund. Paypal people please try to contact Paypal and get your funds back because they frozed my account. The only thing I can do is refund you in BTC when I have given refunds to all BTC people. I highly thank all those who stuck by me until now and I will honor your shares of course. Your shares do not increase in hashrate. They stay the same. I believe the miners are shipped and should be here soon Smiley

Again I thank you those who stuck it out with me. I will start organizing spreadsheets etc. for payouts. The wait is almost over! Thank you for your support everyone!
310  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: October 15, 2013, 12:15:23 PM
Good Morning,

The status page is here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah5wT_NTrV00dEVUa3BMZXZNbmxVNlJvcGg3Vm9ZLVE&usp=docslist_api#gid=0




If you have not gotten a refund yet that most likely mean that you have not confirm the refund address with me via PM. Please PM me the refund address now Smiley

GREEN = REFUNDED and REFUND TXID Provided!

YELLOW = ERROR / Something wrong please PM me!

WHITE = You have NOT PM'd me your refund address so I can confirm you!

*If you have not your refund yet please see the status below. PLEASE PM me your REFUND ADDRESS!*


Refund Status Spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah5wT_NTrV00dEVUa3BMZXZNbmxVNlJvcGg3Vm9ZLVE#gid=0

If you have not filled out a form please do it now:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1mVahCvc1ga8TlJetqIH_laeFOw7jCSyfkePuhP2JEwA/viewform

Please make sure you send me a PM and post your refund address in this post! Thank you for your patient!

@PayPal People I am still waiting on John.K to refund me!
311  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: October 10, 2013, 04:28:20 PM
Sorry guys my ISP is slow at updating their stuff... I've been trying to get on the forums but it keeps saying page not found etc.

I've been trying to contact Sam Cole to see about the miners but no response. It's still the waiting game for the next couple of weeks I guess. Returning to refund process now.

Also regards to people who paid with PayPal... They have been harassing me with phone calls etc. I told them people want refund for this group buy and explain to them the entire story. The funds are currently frozen and I urge you to try to get back your money via contacting paypal.

If you have done your best to get paypal refunds and cannot receive it then I will refund you in BTC when I get it! Right now I am very negative in credit card debts and much more Sad I had to max out several credit cards for the funeral. I am really hoping KnC ship these miners fast so we can start mining!!!
312  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: October 01, 2013, 08:48:05 PM
I've also tried to dispute this with paypal with no success just like Robocoder wrote. So it seems that we cant get our refund that way. But I dont see the problem. You have all you need to refund us via PP. I can provide transaction ID and info if you need it ..

If you are not able to return our investment then I guess I still have my shares when the miners arrive (I'm on Saturn 9)? How about the $200 my friend invested in Jupiter 2? IF you are unable to refund me are those shares lost or do I get 4 share in a Saturn instead?

Would also accept a refund via BTC.  Or cashiers check, money order, or bank wire.

I cannot refund via paypal because the account is now limited. This is because people were impatient and disputed with paypal to get their money back before I could refund anyone. This caused paypal to limit my account with all the funds frozen.

What would you have done if you were in the same situation? Paypal forces us to dispute within 45 days, you didnt answer any PMs. The only logical was to dispute the purchase with paypal..

How are we supposed to get our refund now then? There must be a way to unfreeze your paypal account??
How about refund in bitcoins, cashiers check, money order, or bank wire?

And what about our investment? As long as there is no refund we are still on with the mining?? And what about the investment in Jupiter 2?? You dont answer my questions..



People are getting refunds back. I don't know why it's not working for you. As soon as I get all the BTC refunds taken care of I will handle paypal. Yes I can refund in BTC np if worst comes to worst...
313  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: October 01, 2013, 06:46:18 PM
I've also tried to dispute this with paypal with no success just like Robocoder wrote. So it seems that we cant get our refund that way. But I dont see the problem. You have all you need to refund us via PP. I can provide transaction ID and info if you need it ..

If you are not able to return our investment then I guess I still have my shares when the miners arrive (I'm on Saturn 9)? How about the $200 my friend invested in Jupiter 2? IF you are unable to refund me are those shares lost or do I get 4 share in a Saturn instead?

Would also accept a refund via BTC.  Or cashiers check, money order, or bank wire.

I cannot refund via paypal because the account is now limited. This is because people were impatient and disputed with paypal to get their money back before I could refund anyone. This caused paypal to limit my account with all the funds frozen.
314  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: October 01, 2013, 06:35:08 PM
Wow ok I'm done. I won't be reading or posting in this thread again. I've already said I'm sorry for the conflict in my life that got in the way with this group buy plenty of times. And people are still trying to bicker about a few dollars.

315  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: October 01, 2013, 06:30:57 PM
*You gave an invalid Txid or not on the list.


What you are saying is that even though I have a valid Txid I do not get a refund because you never put me on the list?

I have sent you pm's repeatedly and listed the info in this thread repeatedly and yet My info on your google list is still yellow which shows your doubt....

I went back to previous posts to confirm you. Sorry about that, you were one of the few people who posted late and I never got to update Smiley Refunded
316  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: September 30, 2013, 12:37:17 PM
I'm in the process of trying to get the chips back from Prodigits7 - What happens after I get the chips?

Worst case scenario I will pay for the sample chips. If ~2.5BTC divided among 80+ people means that much to you guys - $4 a person... I will buy everyone a beer. There, are we happy now?

317  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: September 30, 2013, 12:33:17 PM
If you still have not received your refund yet, it could be the following reasons:

*You have no PM'd me your Refund address yet
*You are trying to get a PayPal refund - The funds in there are frozen and can only be refunded if you dispute with PayPal.
*You gave an invalid Txid or not on the list.


Refund Status Spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah5wT_NTrV00dEVUa3BMZXZNbmxVNlJvcGg3Vm9ZLVE#gid=0

If you have not filled out a form please do it now:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1mVahCvc1ga8TlJetqIH_laeFOw7jCSyfkePuhP2JEwA/viewform

Please make sure you send me a PM and post your refund address in this post! Thank you for your patient!
318  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: September 30, 2013, 11:43:18 AM
continuing refunds now... Jupiter #2 people that I've already refunded 85% please message me for the last 15%... I will pay with my own BTC... I have about 17 BTC coming from Avalon Chips GB. Please be patient guys... Message me with your Txid and refund address...
319  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Refunding[Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold on: September 26, 2013, 03:05:26 PM
Yep.. good question. There are still about 160 BTC left on https://blockchain.info/address/17CmSWy7zMQq1zoRC2BXf4YgX6LVBjkkUK
What's going to happen with the money that will be left?
And will all the people who don't take the refund just be stuffed in the 5 remaining miners?

Yes there are people who are still in this group buy with us. First 5 machines were bought with USD (Paypal)

Sounds good. How about if I'm not on one of the first five machines?

I haven't thought much about this yet. I've been concentrating just REFUNDING everyone. You could be pushed into the 5 machines? I have to see who is left etc.
320  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNCMiner REfusing refunds on: September 26, 2013, 02:59:13 PM
KnCMiner has refunded over $30,000 to my group buy. Sam Cole is awesome.
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