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121  Economy / Speculation / Re: Impact of the pending ETF in September? on: August 31, 2018, 03:36:27 PM
Having said that I still think that they are going to postpone the decision
until February. And then they will probably deny it as everyone expects.

I would prefer them to reject it right away next month, but they'll likely continue their idiotic let's delay it strategy just to annoy people here.

Good thing is that the market has almost reached a state at which it will likely stop caring about these ETF's, because when things become too predictable where even the non elite traders know the trick, which they have in the last months, it will no longer work afterwards. I said it before, the upcoming SEC decision is probably the last time we'll be able to short the news before the news comes out.

It's about time the community here moves on and stops focusing on ETF's that don't stand a chance to be approved.

Yes, at this point most people know most ETF's wont get approved anyways and they also know only a few are really important so the rejection of the ''shitty'' ones will certainly not move the market, however the rejection of the big ones will, for sure. They will keep delaying indeed, I think they can until March, I don't remember but there was a chart showing how many days they can delay.
122  Economy / Trading Discussion / Is there any reason to day trade anything other than bitcoin? on: August 01, 2018, 11:19:36 PM
Serious discussion please.

Obviously some alts can have significantly bigger gains than bitcoin when it comes to long term and bull runs, the last bull run from 6k to 10k for example, sure bitcoin was strong, almost a 2x but some of the top alt coins did more than a 2x even 3x. However that's only long term.

Short term I don't see any reason to trade anything other than bitcoin, especially knowing how little volume some of the other coins have, even top 10 alt coins, for example stellar only has 33m volume. So my question is, what's the point of trading stellar, for example, instead of bitcoin? You know that even if you are a whale and trade a lot, you wont be moving the market as much, if you have 1m and you trade stellar, that's already huge and we all know the 33m volume is probably not even real, a lot of it from bots trading.

It's also much easier to follow bitcoin because, well, the whole market follows bitcoin. Bitcoin dictates where the market goes.
123  Economy / Speculation / Re: With or without approval of btc/ETFs ,we are positive of bull run. on: August 01, 2018, 10:22:01 PM
Not really, ETF FUD was what made this small bull run possible in the first place, obviously right now bulls are strong, even after this small downtrend, in my opinion needed for the bulls to be able to push the price even higher but most of this was only thanks to ETF's
124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Cardano vs Ethereum vs others on: August 01, 2018, 10:07:26 PM
Ethereum is the only cryptocurrency with real use, ok not the only one but pretty close. A lot of tokens depend on it, 99% of the other coins are useless and have no use, I think people invest too recklessly in ICO's and coins.
125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How to start investing with 1$? on: August 01, 2018, 09:50:40 PM
Actually in crypto you can start investing with just 1 dollar. It's the only market that can give you enough returns to make 1 dollar worth it. Imagine bitcoin, you could buy bitcoin at 1$ with 1$ and make 20k eventually when bitcoin hit 20k. Obviously it's an extreme example but the returns in crypto are incredibly higher than any other normal market.
126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is anticipated to raise $10,000 sooner on: August 01, 2018, 09:29:16 PM
Bitcoin break past the $8,000 mark. Do you think the price of Bitcoin will break the $10,000 mark sooner? Will it be worth it to get more bitcoin at this price?

I don't think that it is a prospect in the next few months.

Given enough time though, it's a no brainer. But $10k, as both the major resistance, and a huge psychological barrier, is most likely only going to be hit once the recovery starts, which could be a while. I'm fairly sure that you're asking this question in the context of the "near future", so no. The bearish sentiment continues to dominate the markets at the moment.

That said, I do think that it is a great opportunity to stock up on coins or long positions on BTC right now, because prices are extremely cheap I believe if you look at the bigger picture here. Start buying regularly right now in bearish conditions is definitely a good idea.

''because prices are extremely cheap'' compared to what? I don't really understand people saying that, it's a meaningless thing to say. Was the price cheap when it crashed to 10k from 20k? Who decides when you can call it cheap? It's only cheap if bitcoin reaches 50k, it's not cheap if bitcoin never goes above 10k ever again.
127  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is anticipated to raise $10,000 sooner on: August 01, 2018, 05:32:58 PM
It's going to happen sooner or later, and we all are aware of that, but it has ALWAYS been matter of time, the same is happening since late 2014, just need more patience


I agree with that. After a few more months of considation, the price will rise again.

I believe that the price of bitcoins will pump up again this december just like what happened last year so the $10k dollar will be surpassed and that is the reason why you should hold your coins today.

There is 0 reason to think that it will follow what happened last year. All the hype last year was different, first of all, bitcoin was escaping a 3 year bear trend, also the upcoming fork helped a lot with volume and people buying into bitcoin, after that it was pumped by the masses because of FOMO (fear of missing out) everyone was buying at any price. Something like that wont happen again unless we break 20k, even if we break 10k people won't FOMO like the last year because instead of having fear of missing out they will have fear of crashing again seeing how bitcoin crashed already 3 times after small bull runs this year.
128  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Went Below $8000! Sell Now Before It Goes To 0! on: August 01, 2018, 05:26:07 PM
i just seen Bitcoin went below $8000! i read on the internet that if Bitcoin goes below $8000, it will go 2 zero and we will loose all our monies! My advise is every1 to sell sell sell before you loose loose loose all you monies.

and i also readed that there is a silent civil war going on in the USa, the gov wants to took all our crypto for taxes, but other gov peeple, like the prez, wants 2 start a war on twitter.

i think we should make a twitter blockchain, and govs can be on blockchain and then they can start Fork Wars and see who can make the longest chain and win the fork war. It would be a lot cheaper i think than wars with me and you peeple.

What the? Are you serious dude? You believed everything you read on the news lately? Or are you another paid shill? Silent Civil War? Where the hell you get that information? I think you really need to get out of your mom's basement and see the world. I think you are just another troll and doesn't really understand how the market operates. Sorry dude, I'm not buying anything you say.  Grin

Can't tell if you are joking or not. PD: OP was joking... clearly..

Honestly I keep hearing that blockchain will destroy governments and banks and that they are afraid and yet nothing ever happens. Cryptos are great but they aren't that great, people should stop being fanboys and accept reality.

I agree. I don't think the blockchain in its current form will destroy governments or banks. And very likely before it gets to that point, governments and banks will adapt to survive in the "new world." For example, we're already seeing some governments starting to embrace crypto and now even Marshall Islands adopting crypto as a national currency. And banks, well, we all know that banks will go wherever there is money to be made.


Exactly, they would just use blockchain in any case. Besides cryptos aren't even that great when it comes to currencies. They are great for other things but not even close to your normal EUR or USD payments. They always tell you, oh bitcoin and cryptos are really fast, transactions are fast, I can pay anything with paypal instantly, always or credit card lmao. You also have a lot more security if you fuck up which is also much harder because you don't have retarded addresses like a1412x1348e1df71783172178185712 and other complicated stuff for the average person.

129  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Went Below $8000! Sell Now Before It Goes To 0! on: July 31, 2018, 08:48:19 PM
i just seen Bitcoin went below $8000! i read on the internet that if Bitcoin goes below $8000, it will go 2 zero and we will loose all our monies! My advise is every1 to sell sell sell before you loose loose loose all you monies.

and i also readed that there is a silent civil war going on in the USa, the gov wants to took all our crypto for taxes, but other gov peeple, like the prez, wants 2 start a war on twitter.

i think we should make a twitter blockchain, and govs can be on blockchain and then they can start Fork Wars and see who can make the longest chain and win the fork war. It would be a lot cheaper i think than wars with me and you peeple.

What the? Are you serious dude? You believed everything you read on the news lately? Or are you another paid shill? Silent Civil War? Where the hell you get that information? I think you really need to get out of your mom's basement and see the world. I think you are just another troll and doesn't really understand how the market operates. Sorry dude, I'm not buying anything you say.  Grin

Can't tell if you are joking or not. PD: OP was joking... clearly..


Honestly I keep hearing that blockchain will destroy governments and banks and that they are afraid and yet nothing ever happens. Cryptos are great but they aren't that great, people should stop being fanboys and accept reality.
130  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is anticipated to raise $10,000 sooner on: July 31, 2018, 08:45:49 PM
We are re-testing the pre-ETF pump right now, I guess we'll go for a double bottom. Still many noobs on board. The next ETF will also not pass and news will be sold as usual, which means that we may retest $7100, as measured by the current resistance line starting at $5774.7 - $6100ish (Bitstamp)

Until we clear out all the noobs that think ETF and other gov derived inventions matter in Bitcoin, we'll have these speculative swings.

Re-testing the short term uptrend line right now (trace a line from $6072 dip in Bitstamp which you will see that the current red candle is sitting right there). If said line doesn't hold, then we are dumping back to $6500-$7000, I would buy the dip there, if it doesn't hold then we may still have many noobs that don't deserve to hold bitcoin and these must be removed before we continue going higher.

Personally I think it was needed to have a small downtrend to cool off the daily RSI. There was no room for more bullish action without significant news with that overextended RSI. Now that it's cooled off a little bit, we might see another bull move. Personally I'm watching the 7200$ level and I use Bitfinex, much better than Bitstamp.
131  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price in late December 2018 ! The giant cristal ball. on: July 31, 2018, 08:43:11 PM
As I said many times, there is really no point making these ''predictions''. They aren't predictions, they are inventions. There is no analysis capable of giving accurate results when it comes to that time frame. At most with technical analysis you can make educated guesses short term. Fundamental analysis might allow you to make longer term predictions but they can't be very accurate.

As explained in the first post it's not about Bitcoin price, it's about specialists educated knowledge / guesses VS crowd knowledge / guesses. It's a probabilistic experiment and I personally don't really care about the BTC price. I'm bullish on it, but that's also irrelevant here. English isn't my first language so maybe it wasn't clear enough.

Unfortunately when you look at the ''experts'' predictions, they never match, not even close. Some ceo of some company said bitcoin will reach 40k this year. Someone else actually said 65k, that's not a small difference. Point being is that even if the ''experts'' can't agree then what's the point of making these predictions? Of course being bullish on bitcoin is something else, you are not necessarily making an accurate prediction.
132  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mike Novograts to CNBC: ‘I Think Bitcoin’s Price has Bottomed’ on: July 31, 2018, 08:40:54 PM
I'd say that bitcoin's $6k price level was definitely close to the bottom, if not the definitive bottom.

I'm just uncertain as to whether the bearish sentiment in the market would continue longer before the bull market actually comes. Right now, even though we've seen some small bull runs, I think that it's safe to say that we're nowhere close to a bull market yet.

The lowest BTC can go is probably $4-5k within this bear market, in my opinion, under which there will just be too much demand for prices to keep falling. But whether this rally is going to be the start of a recovery or just temporary and will correct is unknown at this stage.

''too much demand for prices to keep falling'' I don't see how that works. Why would demand increase? We already saw what happened when bitcoin crashed from 20k. There was no demand capable of stopping the crash. There is no reason to think there is going to be more demand when we hit 4k. In any case you could argue that demand will go down as people will lose even more interest in bitcoin.

Maybe what he meant that when we reach the stage were the price is around $4K-$5K, people will be tempted to buy because the price is really cheap and at a discount. So the demand will still be there and keep the price to above that bottom. I will admit that I never thought that bitcoin can go below $10K this year, but I learn to accept it and made me think that no one can really say where the price is going to be in the future.

''because the price is really cheap'' Is really cheap compared to what? Wasn't 15k ''cheap'' compared to 20k? What about 10k or 8, etc etc. No such thing as really cheap. As I said people look at this the wrong way, when something falls so drastically, people don't think it's cheap anymore, people think it's trash.
133  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mike Novograts to CNBC: ‘I Think Bitcoin’s Price has Bottomed’ on: July 30, 2018, 09:04:18 PM
I'd say that bitcoin's $6k price level was definitely close to the bottom, if not the definitive bottom.

I'm just uncertain as to whether the bearish sentiment in the market would continue longer before the bull market actually comes. Right now, even though we've seen some small bull runs, I think that it's safe to say that we're nowhere close to a bull market yet.

The lowest BTC can go is probably $4-5k within this bear market, in my opinion, under which there will just be too much demand for prices to keep falling. But whether this rally is going to be the start of a recovery or just temporary and will correct is unknown at this stage.

''too much demand for prices to keep falling'' I don't see how that works. Why would demand increase? We already saw what happened when bitcoin crashed from 20k. There was no demand capable of stopping the crash. There is no reason to think there is going to be more demand when we hit 4k. In any case you could argue that demand will go down as people will lose even more interest in bitcoin.
134  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price in late December 2018 ! The giant cristal ball. on: July 30, 2018, 09:02:06 PM
As I said many times, there is really no point making these ''predictions''. They aren't predictions, they are inventions. There is no analysis capable of giving accurate results when it comes to that time frame. At most with technical analysis you can make educated guesses short term. Fundamental analysis might allow you to make longer term predictions but they can't be very accurate.
135  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is anticipated to raise $10,000 sooner on: July 30, 2018, 02:45:53 PM
Bitcoin break past the $8,000 mark. Do you think the price of Bitcoin will break the $10,000 mark sooner? Will it be worth it to get more bitcoin at this price?

If the ETF is passed, $10k is easy.
I believe it is easy to raise $10k sooner. With etf, bitcoin is possible to raise further so while price is not yet $10k it is still a good chance to have bitcoin this time.

Thank you for your great analysis based on nothing. First of all ETF's are going to get postponed over and over again so this small bull break we had thanks to ETF FUD might not last. In the unlikely event that ETF is passed this next month, then sure Bitcoin might get a shot to hit 10k however, always remember that, you buy the rumors and sell the news.
136  Economy / Speculation / Re: Cryptocurrency analytics (Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, Dash) on: July 30, 2018, 02:43:50 PM
Your analysis is very reasonable and your markup is obvious. As a trader, your trade is more experienced than me, thank you for sharing!

His analysis isn't that great, I'm not saying it's bad but he is not very good either. He might be able to fool you because you have no experience but he clearly doesn't even understand what a bull trap is. I suggest to watch TheChartGuys on youtube. Dan is honestly one of the best, if not the best analyst out there, at least for free.
137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Best ICO Project in 2018??? Let's see some professional opinions on: July 25, 2018, 10:24:58 PM
Never trust those websites. Some of them are paid by ICO teams to have a better score or to have a score at all. Do your own research. People who know how to look for a good ICO wont tell you for free. So you either buy a course from someone that actually knows or you learn to do the research by yourself.

If I knew those reviews were 100% real I would say yeah, it's great. Looking at it myself, yes it definitely seems like a good project but time will tell, as always.
138  Economy / Speculation / Re: Cryptocurrency analytics (Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, Dash) on: July 25, 2018, 10:22:43 PM
Down pressure seen. Bull trap for real?
https://www.coingecko.com/en

A bull trap? Do you even know what a bull trap is? ''A bull trap occurs when a trader or investor buys a stock that is about to breakout above a resistance level '' In this case we already had a strong follow through above resistance, this can't be a bull trap.
139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is anticipated to raise $10,000 sooner on: July 25, 2018, 10:12:23 PM
Bitcoin price is stable above 8100$,it will reach 10,000 in a month.If you want to get huge profit from bitcoin investment,this is the best time. Because their will be huge raise in August,So you hold your bitcoin till the month of Holding is best option to get huge profits without any loss to your investments.

And you know this based on what exactly? ''without any loss to your investments.'' Without losses? DAMN you must be a time traveler to know all this. There is no way to know what's going to happen in a month, you can make educated guesses (certainly not an exact price/date like you did) but that's about it. It is ''stable'' above 8100$? It has been above 8k for only 1 day, why would you call that stable?
140  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SF - possible entire team is fake on: July 25, 2018, 10:09:52 PM
Pretty clear scam, almost like they are not even trying to hide it honestly. Definitely fake. I know some projects that have investors or someone in their team that wants to remain anonymous and they might use someone else photo but in this case it's clearly not that.
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