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They are investigating, investigating means they are searching looking for something, it doesnt mean you did something wrong, wait a few hours or a day or two and then you can accuse them of scam
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If he is betting 1 btc each time, the expected profit in the long term is 0, how is he able to make 200.000 bitcoins? How is he able to win 200.000 more than loosing when the chances are 50/50? Makes no sense
He'd only need to double his coins 17.6 times to earn more than 200K coins starting from 1. The probability of that happening is 0.5^17.6 is 1/200000. Which means 1 out of 200000 people will encounter this. Doesn't seem too far fetched to me. What do you mean double his coins? Double 1 btc 17.6 times? Like 1,2,4,8,16,32,64 ... ? Because if thats what you saying it would be impossible since casinos have a max bet so i still dont see how that is possible unless you explain yourself better |
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The odds are in your favor if you quit early...for life.
The odds are never in your favor no matter what |
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When do I play on 999dice ? I would suggest people stay far away......... you can be the judge if you think I'm a liar thats your problem cause I dont do anything but tell the truth.
You first started complaining that they stole your money, they gave you the money back, you lost it gambling there, you start accusing them of scam but incredibly enough you still played there after all that, so you either are stupid or crazy So now they hack my bitcointalk account and you think I'm a scammer because the person who hacked my account sold it? LOL hes probably just laughing at how fucking stupid you are..... I'm all the fuckin above but at least i'm not a scumbag piece of shit...... 999 dice is a fucking scam either way, doesnt matter if they reimburse my money their rolls are rigged. If their site wasnt rigged maybe they woudlnt be so fucking generous in giving people .01-.02 here and there when they make over 40 bitcoins a day lol I'm so sure those high rollers lose 90% of the time at 50% Its not the first time you make up lies, for example when you said they "stole your 0.6" when in reality it was yoi that fucked up the transaction, why would we believe you now? Can you prove that you got hacked? You already have negative trust in this acc too |
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The email says they are investigating, and this happened today, dont you think its a little too early to start accusing them of scamming?
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When do I play on 999dice ? I would suggest people stay far away......... you can be the judge if you think I'm a liar thats your problem cause I dont do anything but tell the truth.
You first started complaining that they stole your money, they gave you the money back, you lost it gambling there, you start accusing them of scam but incredibly enough you still played there after all that, so you either are stupid or crazy |
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As far as i know you sold your account, i mean there is a thread of you selling it, stop lying
Whoever hacked my account from 999dice(which would be easiest considering I had used a similar/same password before I changed it after shenanigans on that site) sold my account. Why would I have the need to lie? You really think I have that much time to waste I would sell an account then go thru all the effort to try to get it back? Why would i even give it to him in the first place then LOL just stfu bardman go beg on PD or something Well seems like you have a lot of time to waste it here posting stupid shit so yeah why not. |
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So by your logic God patterned us off something more advanced found in nature? |
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Yeah yeah ignore all the posts talking about the biblical nonsense because you cant say anything to defend it, even you realize that the flood its stupid and pretty much all the stories in the bible |
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As far as i know you sold your account, i mean there is a thread of you selling it, stop lying
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If i write a simulation using martingale i will eventually bust, and that would happen with any other strategy, why dont you try it yourself, your reasoning is incorrect not mine, the ones that dont will bust the house? People are greedy, for example the guy who won 7k btc on just-dice and ended up loosing, people its always greedy and thats why a 0% house edge casino would still win
Ok, let's do it -- a simple simulation of a greedy player who never stops gambling (unless he busts): var startingBankroll = 100;
var bet = 1;
while(true) {
var bankroll = startingBankroll;
for (var i = 1; bankroll > 0; ++i) {
bankroll += Math.random() < 0.5 ? bet : -bet;
if (i % 100000000 === 0)
console.log('Player has made', i , 'bets at a profit of:', bankroll-startingBankroll, ' BTC');
}
console.log('PLAYER BUST!');
}
Now run that, and watch as the vast majority of players will bust. But occasionally you'll get to a real gem like this guy: Player has made 2300000000 bets at a profit of: 161962 BTC
Player has made 2400000000 bets at a profit of: 175434 BTC
Player has made 2500000000 bets at a profit of: 195960 BTC
Player has made 2600000000 bets at a profit of: 207738 BTC
Player has made 2700000000 bets at a profit of: 205418 BTC
Player has made 2800000000 bets at a profit of: 209382 BTC
Player has made 2900000000 bets at a profit of: 206398 BTC
Player has made 3000000000 bets at a profit of: 217148 BTC
Player has made 3100000000 bets at a profit of: 237032 BTC
Player has made 3200000000 bets at a profit of: 251848 BTC
Player has made 3300000000 bets at a profit of: 248634 BTC
Player has made 3400000000 bets at a profit of: 252256 BTC
Player has made 3500000000 bets at a profit of: 251060 BTC
Player has made 3600000000 bets at a profit of: 260898 BTC
Player has made 3700000000 bets at a profit of: 281134 BTC
Player has made 3800000000 bets at a profit of: 294792 BTC
Player has made 3900000000 bets at a profit of: 291088 BTC
Player has made 4000000000 bets at a profit of: 295030 BTC
Player has made 4100000000 bets at a profit of: 295540 BTC
Player has made 4200000000 bets at a profit of: 304886 BTC
Player has made 4300000000 bets at a profit of: 323828 BTC
Player has made 4400000000 bets at a profit of: 337964 BTC
Player has made 4500000000 bets at a profit of: 334380 BTC
Player has made 4600000000 bets at a profit of: 338690 BTC
You really think the casino can handle billions of more bets, hoping it can make its hundreds of thousands of bitcoins back? And do you honestly think a casino would be willing to expose itself to unbounded liability for 0 expected profit?! It doesn't work, never has, never will. But perhaps, what we'll see is bet-match-making where 0% house edge is actually feasible. That way players can play with 0-edge, and casinos aren't the counter-party I dont understand that at all, what is that player using? Martingale? And how is he making 4 bilion bets? I'm no coder, but the code seems straightforward to follow... the player starts with 100 and bets 1 each go at 50%. This player has not yet busted and is up 338k after 46 billion bets. The point is espringe is correct in his analysis and his explanation. People have it ingrained in their heads that 'the house always wins'. This is due to a house edge, even if its 0.01%. No casino could survive offering only 0% games. If he is betting 1 btc each time, the expected profit in the long term is 0, how is he able to make 200.000 bitcoins? How is he able to win 200.000 more than loosing when the chances are 50/50? Makes no sense |
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i played there but the game takes too long with so many hits , try to make smaller maybe ?
even if it is smaller,the odds stink also you cant leave during the battle...or you will lose all btc Thats why i suggested pvp, it would be 0% house edge and the payout could be way better |
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I`m searching a reputation loan, because I don`t have this yet and I need a bigger loan in the future and I need to start with smaller loans to get the reputation I need. Interest is 10% of one weeks loan and it`s higher than usual! https://btcjam.com/listings/37908-reputation-loanThis is not a place for buying rep! All that u could get is a negative trust. If u need a loan u should provide a valid collateral. Regards Sorry, but it seems very hard to do any business here without reputation I don`t ask loan here only with btcjam. Its hard to business anywhere without reputation, what business do you want to do anyways? |
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I know couple of places when you can play agains some pleyers with bitcoin:
1.BitcoinPenguin - casino where you can play multiplayer bitcoin games like poker, blackjack, roulette etc.
2.CakeBet - is a bitcoin casino offering provably fair roulette and chance to play multiplayer blackjack with other players.
3.Winvery - offers a diverse selection of flash casino games and player vs player poker.
Ive never heard of those before, is winvery safe and trusted? Have you deposited there? |
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I dont understand that at all, what is that player using? Martingale? And how is he making 4 bilion bets?
He is able to make that many bets -- because he hasn't yet busted. In my simulation, the player never quits until he's busted (just like you said, about a player being greedy). So even though he's up hundreds of thousands of bitcoins, he caries on. Which just shows how ridiculous using the "greed" nonsense is. With no house edge, a player being greedy doesn't help the casino -- just increases its chance of the casino busting (all for making 0 expected return. a silly value proposition) What strategy is he using  |
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If i write a simulation using martingale i will eventually bust, and that would happen with any other strategy, why dont you try it yourself, your reasoning is incorrect not mine, the ones that dont will bust the house? People are greedy, for example the guy who won 7k btc on just-dice and ended up loosing, people its always greedy and thats why a 0% house edge casino would still win
Ok, let's do it -- a simple simulation of a greedy player who never stops gambling (unless he busts): var startingBankroll = 100;
var bet = 1;
while(true) {
var bankroll = startingBankroll;
for (var i = 1; bankroll > 0; ++i) {
bankroll += Math.random() < 0.5 ? bet : -bet;
if (i % 100000000 === 0)
console.log('Player has made', i , 'bets at a profit of:', bankroll-startingBankroll, ' BTC');
}
console.log('PLAYER BUST!');
}
Now run that, and watch as the vast majority of players will bust. But occasionally you'll get to a real gem like this guy: Player has made 2300000000 bets at a profit of: 161962 BTC
Player has made 2400000000 bets at a profit of: 175434 BTC
Player has made 2500000000 bets at a profit of: 195960 BTC
Player has made 2600000000 bets at a profit of: 207738 BTC
Player has made 2700000000 bets at a profit of: 205418 BTC
Player has made 2800000000 bets at a profit of: 209382 BTC
Player has made 2900000000 bets at a profit of: 206398 BTC
Player has made 3000000000 bets at a profit of: 217148 BTC
Player has made 3100000000 bets at a profit of: 237032 BTC
Player has made 3200000000 bets at a profit of: 251848 BTC
Player has made 3300000000 bets at a profit of: 248634 BTC
Player has made 3400000000 bets at a profit of: 252256 BTC
Player has made 3500000000 bets at a profit of: 251060 BTC
Player has made 3600000000 bets at a profit of: 260898 BTC
Player has made 3700000000 bets at a profit of: 281134 BTC
Player has made 3800000000 bets at a profit of: 294792 BTC
Player has made 3900000000 bets at a profit of: 291088 BTC
Player has made 4000000000 bets at a profit of: 295030 BTC
Player has made 4100000000 bets at a profit of: 295540 BTC
Player has made 4200000000 bets at a profit of: 304886 BTC
Player has made 4300000000 bets at a profit of: 323828 BTC
Player has made 4400000000 bets at a profit of: 337964 BTC
Player has made 4500000000 bets at a profit of: 334380 BTC
Player has made 4600000000 bets at a profit of: 338690 BTC
You really think the casino can handle billions of more bets, hoping it can make its hundreds of thousands of bitcoins back? And do you honestly think a casino would be willing to expose itself to unbounded liability for 0 expected profit?! It doesn't work, never has, never will. But perhaps, what we'll see is bet-match-making where 0% house edge is actually feasible. That way players can play with 0-edge, and casinos aren't the counter-party I dont understand that at all, what is that player using? Martingale? And how is he making 4 bilion bets? |
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can anyone give me suggest about 5 gambling sites which really use "Provably fair"?
because many people said, "house always win".
Provably fair simply means -- "if the casino cheats you, you can detect it". It doesn't mean you can stop them cheating you (you can't) and doesn't mean you expect to make money (you don't). It just means that if the casino is cheating you, it's detectable. ok, thank you all,
but how about 999dice? its recommended for gambling?
No, definitely not. They lie about being provably fair, with a backdoor scheme. If they cheat you, you can't know for sure. Hence it being not provably fair. This place is scum anyway, you should avoid it. They also claim to operate on a 0.05% margin, while allowing 40 BTC wins. lolz I thought there were casinos with 0% house edge around here, correct me if im wrong
There are. Some PvP games allow no edge (since they're not exposed to any risk). Money Pot allows you to play with a 0% house edge (by instantly cashing out) at the expense of being bait to bonus snatchers. DirectDice spams every thread with claims of 0% for frequent betters. I haven't looked into it though, as it sounds like some tard/scammy scheme. Not really?? With a 0% house edge casinos would still win
That's incorrect, as is your reasoning. You can write a simulation if you don't believe it. But even if the vast-majority of people will bust with a 0% house edge, the ones that don't will bust the house. A casino couldn't safely offer a 0 house edge game for a single satoshi if it could be played an infinite amount of times. If i write a simulation using martingale i will eventually bust, and that would happen with any other strategy, why dont you try it yourself, your reasoning is incorrect not mine, the ones that dont will bust the house? People are greedy, for example the guy who won 7k btc on just-dice and ended up loosing, people its always greedy and thats why a 0% house edge casino would still win |
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I thought there were casinos with 0% house edge around here, correct me if im wrong
AFAIK there are at least 2 games with 0% house edge, the PvP on Primedice and the PvP raffle game on Peerbet. The downside is that there are not many players and it is hard for you to find a good match. A dice with 0% house edge would still make profit so i dont know why no one made it, it would atract a lot of players I don't quite get it. By definition, "0% house edge" means the game has a expected value of zero to both the players and the house. So how would a 0% house edge game bring profit to the house? It doesn't in itself. But the house hopes players will play other house games that do have a house edge. It's a marketing strategy. Not really?? With a 0% house edge casinos would still win, why? Easy at the moment you start using a strategy, it doesnt matter you name it, martingale you would still lose using martingale, yes the odds are a bit better per bet now but you will still see 20 lose streaks or more, the 0 house edge only affects players if you bet static, you bet 10k satoshis every bet, yes in the long term you would have a 0 profit but no one is gonna do that, right? So as i said before casinos would still win |
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I have played sometimes on dice sites and its always a fun even though its very hard to win some money against the house edge, I have lost around 0.25 btc if i remember correctly  Well house edge is usually around 1 or 2% and therefore if you make all equal bets 100 times you should be winning about 48 or 49 of those bets. So losing 0.25 btc is quite unlucky, but if you had 25 btc then you would be exactly statistically correct in the amount you lost. You probably just deposited 0.25 and just lot it though. Well your assumptions are really wrong since no one plays like that, no one bets equally all the time. Everyone uses some sort of strategy and any strategy makes you lose more money than betting the same bet over and over The calculation is still the same, no matter if you are using some special strategy. If you wager a total of 100 btc on a 1% edge site, you should expect to lose 1 btc in total on average. You telling me its the same to use martingale at lets say 0.001 base bet and bet 0.001 bets all the time? After 1.000 bets with a 1% house edge with static bets you would lose 10 bets and win 990 so you are loosing 0.01 total, using martingale at 49% would be different, depending on your bankroll of course but for example loosing 10 times in a row with martingale is 0.1% chance wich is 1 in 1.000 so that would mean that every 1.000 bets you would lose 10 times in a row, you would lose 0.85 ~ with martingale at the 10th bet so its not the same |
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I thought there were casinos with 0% house edge around here, correct me if im wrong
AFAIK there are at least 2 games with 0% house edge, the PvP on Primedice and the PvP raffle game on Peerbet. The downside is that there are not many players and it is hard for you to find a good match. A dice with 0% house edge would still make profit so i dont know why no one made it, it would atract a lot of players |
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