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301  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 03, 2019, 08:00:02 AM
Afaik transaction malleability breaks LN.  So Segwit is necessary for LN as it fixes transaction malleability.  Also BIP 114 for MAST requires Segwit.

I think that the malleability bug is separate from the segwit. I think segwit required the fix in order to work. So segwit in on itself is not required for LN.



One advantage of segwit are reduced orphaned blocks, as the small header is sent separately and prior to the transaction data to other miners. The quicker transmission time reduces the chances two blocks are mined at the same time.
Another is simply a more efficient use of space. More tx's per Kb.

That's what I understand, anyway.
302  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 03, 2019, 07:01:33 AM
All hats come with a 100% guarantee1.



 avatar-sized



1 I guarantee I enjoy making them.


My first ever avatar.

Thanks xhomerx Smiley
303  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 10:42:48 PM
Dear XHomer

Please accept this submission on behalf of P_Shep.  He would like a hat but is a bit shy.

Based on my extensive research of his post history (14 seconds), please make him a hat based on this image.



I despise cats, but fuck it, it's hilarious, why not Smiley
304  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 10:38:11 PM

Yeah, I was wondering if the Blue Peter dog might come up. Slightly before my time but have no objections to border collies. Lovely dogs.
305  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 10:33:54 PM
^
Be more on the light side .... a HAT Will follow soon .... 100 merit few activity and boom Cheesy

For an OG account it Will not be to difficult.

xHomerx is the invitation decider?

Haha guess not alone but perhaps a few older ones in here should Maybe do, so its not to full and Some no goods are avoided.....

Kurious looks like to know how things need to be done as well + he’s an older account as well Maybe a good guy on the staff as well (Then again just idea’s) Cheesy

Btw you never liked a HAT? Why not just for Fun...

No worries, yanking your plank mate Smiley

Mainly not got a hat because:
1. Isn't it impolite to ask?
2. Can't think of a icon/picture/person to go on it.
306  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 10:21:12 PM
^
Be more on the light side .... a HAT Will follow soon .... 100 merit few activity and boom Cheesy

For an OG account it Will not be to difficult.

xHomerx is the invitation decider?
307  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 10:16:06 PM
Alright since everyones lost their damn mind on this party here's my suggestion.

UK, London (this could be changed)

Rent out a pub near the Guardian office, open bar, maybe some UK chav sluts, whatever. Open bar, easy peasy.

Use an invite system or just date based.

Why? English speaking country and we all know everyone here speaks English, it has relevance to Bitcoin with the Genesis Block.
We have a lot of Euro boys who could get their easy, us America have no issue getting in the UK, reading shits easy blah blah blah, we won't get murdered by cops (fuck they don't even have guns) it's all a good idea.

Keep things organized and easy, yachts are not easy, 10k is fucking stupid entry fee, fuck all that.

Find a hotel near the pub where everyone stays at and we can all help each other not die in the streets from alcohol poisoning.

Keep it simple boys and you have an actual shot of it happening.

So... a stag do then?
308  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 08:56:21 PM
I think 0.1 is entirely fair.
I've been handing out that much to many of my (previously nocoiner) friends.

And you misspelled 'Yacht' as 'Travelodge'. Easily done.
309  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 07:36:47 PM
The way I see it, there are 2 types of people here.

1-Those who want go girls, yachts, private jets, foam party, monaco, ibiza, Vegas (ffs :p)... you get the picture. Ultra rich party. Snipers' dream.

2-Those who want to get together and drink some beers and maybe do some crazy stuff later in the night.  Grin (not too crazy, we don't wanna break any laws)

Looking at number 1 all we have to do is check the various 'blockchain cruises' as cautionary tales - Ukranian hostesses either crying or yawning, crypto bros dry humping pianos, the autistic ones hiding in their cabins and texting into the great nothingness.

You need something compelling, bonding and memorable. I would suggest planning and executing a raid on an Al-Shabaab base in a remote area of Somalia.


Fuck I just want to get a couple of beers and make fun of some of ya to your face, I want to raise pint and have a cheers to the shit we saw, what we emotionally went through (Fuck I'd say one of our own members being hunted down by a fucking government is a big fucking deal) and just having a good time and hearing stories about goofey shit and knocking on each other.

I don't need a bunch of whores trying to lie our new found wealth out of us, I don't need some crazy shit that will make me see everything as a goat with milk dripping from its horns or anything, I don't need to go to somewhere and wear a suit to pretend im something (Im not craig)

Fuck 100k, we should just have a get together regardless.

Need two parties then:
-Extroverts
-Introverts
310  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 07:26:38 PM
On the security front, I was wondering (and I know very little about encryption) can you encrypt a message with the public key of a BTC transaction and have it only decrypted by the private key of said transaction?
In which case you could ensure secure comms to the parties who sent in deposits. Of course you can never guarantee said party won't divulge said comms, but maybe a start?
311  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 07:18:41 PM
Well, this is putting the 100K party Vegas location in jeopardy.

I thought it was agreed that we wouldn't do the party in the US, for our various international friends who have problems stepping onto US soil ?

Canada in the summer is nice (British Columbia ?), although I think somewhere in Europe might be an alternative (Spain ? The Netherlands ? Belgium ? Someplace that has no trouble with English)

Mexico or anywhere South America are out of contention for security reasons.

I have trouble getting out of the US, might make it into Canada, the Caribbean would actually be the easiest to pull off for me.

It was always going to be very impractical opsec-wise to have one huge party.
We're going to have to decentralise this thing.
One in Vegas, one in Canada, one in Amsterdam, one in my garden if the weather's nice

You are suggesting a kind of simultaneous and multiple locations thingie-ma-jiggie?

Would that mean that a certain minimum number of WO peeps would have to be present at each location in order for that location to count as an official $100k WO "hotspot?"  It would seem kind of strange to me to allow only one person to be present, and for the spot to count, so I am having some trouble with the logistical and logical specifics in this regard, but I surely do like the idea of a kind of OpSec preservation attempt... I also believe in the concept of security through obscurity, so in that regards, OpSec would not have to be "perfect" in order for it to be substantially and materially sufficient.   So, in those kinds of circumstances, I might even agree to attend such a "party," when otherwise, I might have told you WO "goofballs" (endearment intended) to go fuck u r lil selfies.    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Security through obscurity?
312  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 07:14:25 PM
The way I see it, there are 2 types of people here.

1-Those who want go girls, yachts, private jets, foam party, monaco, ibiza, Vegas (ffs :p)... you get the picture. Ultra rich party. Snipers' dream.

2-Those who want to get together and drink some beers and maybe do some crazy stuff later in the night.  Grin (not too crazy, we don't wanna break any laws)

I don't think those 2 groups can come together and find a common ground.

Dude says $50k/head for a party.

Below $50,000.00 per head.

I mean, my 'reasonable' figure of 0.2 now is ~$1,700.
Pretty much just looking at hiring out a shitty nightclub in Ibiza for that price.

LoL $20k managable but still too much.

And fuck yeah I wanna yacht!  Grin
313  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 07:09:31 PM
The way I see it, there are 2 types of people here.

1-Those who want go girls, yachts, private jets, foam party, monaco, ibiza, Vegas (ffs :p)... you get the picture. Ultra rich party. Snipers' dream.

2-Those who want to get together and drink some beers and maybe do some crazy stuff later in the night.  Grin (not too crazy, we don't wanna break any laws)

I don't think those 2 groups can come together and find a common ground.

Which is one very good reason why I don't think it'll happen.
314  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 07:04:52 PM
Btw count me in for the 100k party.
What's the deposit? Where do I send it? (Tranche of random addresses in 3, 2...)

Don't recall anyone suggesting the only place one of the wealthy elite would party... Monaco.
Granprix weekend would be the cherry on top.

Monaco is a fooking shithole filled with arseholes. A weekend in a bail hostel in a Detroit ghetto would be classier.

I was thinking the exact same thing about Ibiza, which I recall someone mentioning.

In the end, as much as I'd like to see it, I don't REALLY see it happening.
It will require someone with the ability, means and will to step up to the plate and organise. I mean, it's a BIG task. Just look at choosing the location, let alone the venue.
...Then factor in all the requests/demands of the kind you'd expect from the people in this thread. Think about that for a moment. Be enough to drive anyone mad.

Nice idea though. Hope it does happen, and so long as the logistics work out, I'm in.

What were the thoughts per head? 0.2BTC doesn't seem entirely unreasonable to me. Def has to be below 0.5 though.

Below 0.5 now or below 0.5 then? It's a huge difference you know  Grin

Below $50,000.00 per head.

I mean, my 'reasonable' figure of 0.2 now is ~$1,700.
Pretty much just looking at hiring out a shitty nightclub in Ibiza for that price.
315  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 06:53:24 PM
Btw count me in for the 100k party.
What's the deposit? Where do I send it? (Tranche of random addresses in 3, 2...)

Don't recall anyone suggesting the only place one of the wealthy elite would party... Monaco.
Granprix weekend would be the cherry on top.

Monaco is a fooking shithole filled with arseholes. A weekend in a bail hostel in a Detroit ghetto would be classier.

I was thinking the exact same thing about Ibiza, which I recall someone mentioning.

In the end, as much as I'd like to see it, I don't REALLY see it happening.
It will require someone with the ability, means and will to step up to the plate and organise. I mean, it's a BIG task. Just look at choosing the location, let alone the venue.
...Then factor in all the requests/demands of the kind you'd expect from the people in this thread. Think about that for a moment. Be enough to drive anyone mad.

Nice idea though. Hope it does happen, and so long as the logistics work out, I'm in.

What were the thoughts per head? 0.2BTC doesn't seem entirely unreasonable to me. Def has to be below 0.5 though.
316  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2019, 03:39:21 PM
Btw count me in for the 100k party.
What's the deposit? Where do I send it? (Tranche of random addresses in 3, 2...)

Don't recall anyone suggesting the only place one of the wealthy elite would party... Monaco.
Granprix weekend would be the cherry on top.
317  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 01, 2019, 11:38:49 PM




I mean... that's REALLY worked it's way up there.

Can't be comfotable to run like that.
318  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2019, 05:36:53 PM
https://www.crypto-news.in/explainer/bitcoin-explainer/paul-le-roux-yet-another-satoshi-candidate/

"There are users on online cryptocurrency forums and message boards who theorise, Craig Wright may have been involved with Paul Le Roux from the day he started working on Bitcoin project. Wright became a snitch to US government leading to arrest of Paul Le Roux and used his friendship with Dave Kleiman to steal a hard disk of Le Roux which contains more than one million bitcoins which he has been using as basis to support his claims behind the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.
...
There was also an anonymous user who theorised that Craig Wright’s hard dish with one million Bitcoin is actually hard disk stolen from Le Roux which was encrypted using his True Crypto software preventing Wright from accessing the bitcoins stored inside. The user also suggested that Calvin Ayre’s mining warehouse is just a front to hide true function of massive data centers which Calvin and Wright have so far been using to attempt decryption of true crypt volumes to plunder the bitcoins but have met with little success. "

Intriguing...

Assuming the above is true, they won't have much success, as TrueCrypt is a tough nut to crack. If Paul Le Roux has used it properly (i.e., using a cryptographically strong passphrase and/or nested encryption algorithms) it will take centuries for them to brute-force it open.

But... If Paul Le Roux was not very careful in choosing a strong passphrase, then there may be a good chance that they succeed. Craig Wright would then be able to sign as Nakamoto and would have the proof he needs. He could also dump those million BTC and cause havoc...

I really hope they end up like this:



Doesn't matter. By Craig's own words, possession doesn't mean ownership:


found this at his blog.
https://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/shades-of-black/

Quote
Possession of a key is not evidence of ownership. It was never the intent of Bitcoin. It is the intent of people like Greg Maxwell, James Donald, and others who seek a system that acts outside the law. If you have a stolen asset, possession doesn’t make it yours. It applies to Bitcoin equally. If bitcoin is stolen through stolen keys, they do not give the receiver ownership. They do not act as proof. In monetary law, money is fungible and transferable only when it is exchanged without knowledge of fraud or malpractice and for good consideration. It is critical. To be money, Bitcoin does not rely on the mere possession of keys, which is the aim and desire of those seeking a new version of Liberty Reserve coin or e-gold. There are some who will tell you that the mere possession of a key is definitive evidence. They are avoiding the rules of evidence and courts, and seek to alter their nature.

sure sounds like a blacklisting of some sort. some coins will not be allowed to move via private key when some criteria/law is broken.

perhaps im misunderstanding. i seek clarity.

Soooooo.......
319  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 27, 2019, 04:33:27 PM
... he sourced and shipped me a number of euro spec thermostats ... I think it was 6 BTC for the parts.

Those have got to be the most expensive thermostats you've ever bought...

Like my TREZOR, which I bought for 0.13 BTC...

Lesson learned: spend fiat first, and BTC only when you absolutely have to.

Lol. Mine was 1BTC
320  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 22, 2019, 11:30:28 AM
Out of interest does anybody (except jbreher) still own any BCH or SV?

I transferred all of my BCH into Bitcoin & spent it living like a king for just over 12 months.
(I don’t sell any of the Bitcoin I’ve bought myself but give me a break for wanting to enjoy the fruits of my labour here).

Obviously I got 0 SV because I had 0 BCH at the time of their shitfiri.

To my shame I do.
0.00000244 of each sitting on my bitfinex account
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