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on: April 14, 2018, 02:18:28 AM
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You know what.... my personal opinion on csw claiming to be satoshi.... These are the words from craig a few year back..... ‘I believed that I could do this. I believed that I could put the years of anonymity and hiding behind me. ‘But, as the events of this week unfolded and I prepared to publish the proof of access to the earliest keys, I broke. I do not have the courage. I cannot. ‘When the rumours began, my qualifications and character were attacked. When those allegations were proven false, new allegations have already begun. I know now that I am not strong enough for this. ‘I know that this weakness will cause great damage to those that have supported me, and particularly to Jon Matonis (founding director of The Bitcoin Foundation) and Gavin Andresen (software developer who played a key role in building software which powers Bitcoin) I can only hope that their honour and credibility is not irreparably tainted by my actions. ‘They were not deceived, but I know that the world will never believe that now. I can only say I’m sorry. And goodbye.’ ok fair enough comment if it is to be believed....but since that comment it has not been good bye... it has been the opposite, its more craig than we have ever saw before 2016...again nothing wrong..we are all sharing info and learning together and he is a clever guy. but if craig wants to be satoshi and wants patents on everything he claims to invent... then please for the sake of all...prove to us all that you are satoshi, if not,then stop claiming to be satoshi and just be craig. craig saying BCH is real bitcoin, is not much stronger than any of us saying the same thing. If satoshi today said, BCH is the real bitcoin, think of the impact that would have on BCH.  |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees
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on: April 12, 2018, 04:42:48 PM
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Segwit is not just a malleability fix it also allows for further optimization through signature aggregation etc via a soft fork
Signature aggregation saves quite a bit if space and allows for many more transactions to be included in a block therefore further optimizing the available space and keeping node running costs and system resources down
I rest my case you could not give 1 valid reason I asked about segwit and you go off on some bullshit rant about LN
LN is not setwit LN is a payment network and segwit is a transaction malleability fix nothing more.
It moves the signature data to a different part of the block out of the transaction area that's all it does nothing more
Thankyou for confirming you know nothing
wtf do you smoke m8? seriously...are you ok? You cant seem to make your mind up can you... yesterday it was nothing more, today its not just...whats it going to be tomorrow lol its over m8 SEGWIT IS SHIT.....oh and turn it sideways and stick it straight up your candy ass   Thankyou for confirming you know nothing about the rock   |
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on: April 12, 2018, 02:47:22 PM
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https://twitter.com/BTCNewsUpdates/status/984270024968998912Long time Bitcoin Core advocate "Cobra" confirms: ▪️Lightning is a threat to BTC's value ▪️Lightning is better used with other coins 0 use case left, no more reason to hold or buy BTCs. 📉🔥 Cobra-Bitcoin A lot of people miss that. From the Bitcoin maximalist point of view, LN is actually a bit of a threat to Bitcoin's value long term. Rather than exclusively being a scaling solution for Bitcoin, it's actually a scaling solution for any coin with a malleability fix. When stores start shifting from accepting BTC payments to LN, any altcoin with a malleability fix gains new adoption as a result. So why use Bitcoin in the first place if you can just use some shitcoin, open a channel into Lightning (at much cheaper cost), and spend at any LN-accepting merchant? Bitcoin maximalism fits better with on-chain scaling philosophy in some ways in that respect, or scaling through sidechains. So, if you want to use ln, you can with other coins , no need to hold og btc...tek thoughts? also did you see ln in action? ooooooo https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/8bmyp6/roger_gets_a_demo_of_lightning_network/
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on: April 12, 2018, 07:00:02 AM
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https://twitter.com/BTCNewsUpdates/status/984270024968998912Long time Bitcoin Core advocate "Cobra" confirms: ▪️Lightning is a threat to BTC's value ▪️Lightning is better used with other coins 0 use case left, no more reason to hold or buy BTCs. 📉🔥 Cobra-Bitcoin A lot of people miss that. From the Bitcoin maximalist point of view, LN is actually a bit of a threat to Bitcoin's value long term. Rather than exclusively being a scaling solution for Bitcoin, it's actually a scaling solution for any coin with a malleability fix. When stores start shifting from accepting BTC payments to LN, any altcoin with a malleability fix gains new adoption as a result. So why use Bitcoin in the first place if you can just use some shitcoin, open a channel into Lightning (at much cheaper cost), and spend at any LN-accepting merchant? Bitcoin maximalism fits better with on-chain scaling philosophy in some ways in that respect, or scaling through sidechains. So, if you want to use ln, you can with other coins , no need to hold og btc...tek thoughts?
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on: April 11, 2018, 09:38:07 AM
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You cannot sell segwit here any more - try elsewhere.
This is about Satoshi's Whitpaper impl.
read it
I will ask you the same what is your issue with it Ask me, ask me..pleeeease ...me, me  Ok you answer in your own words since the other two obviously don't have a valid reason and decided to just ignore this question but are happy to respond to everything else Its shit, Its a scam, It was always part of the plan ok get this, i know you wont believe me..but here goes.. btc was always meant to HF to upgrade....but to many bagholders from years had to be rid off first. While trying to rid of bagholders, some person/group decided... hey since the banks want into crypto , lets sell them this 2nd layer on an old fork... we can take the bankers money and make them wait years for something that wont even work.... oh and while we make them wait, we can get them to tie up their old btc on LN, then when the time is right... we take the LN funds ,destroy old btc,segwet & ln and follow the real bitcoin...BCH Once BCH gets majority hashpower, it becomes the true bitcoin. My words  I rest my case you could not give 1 valid reason I asked about segwit and you go off on some bullshit rant about LN LN is not setwit LN is a payment network and segwit is a transaction malleability fix nothing more. It moves the signature data to a different part of the block out of the transaction area that's all it does nothing more Thankyou for confirming you know nothing You asked for my own words,lol right think about this,what has happened with both coins... BCH on every exchange...becoming more popular everyday... BCH has a growing list of merchants... Alot of $investment has been put into BCH in such a short time period...the old skool btc guys are all in BCH..why? btc since segwit has lost so many huge merchants, making it unusable as a currency It has not been a good store of value either... yea i know nothing oh as for why i go on about LN and link segwet to it all the time... Is segregated witness necessary to implement the Lightning Network? Lightning Network (LN) uses payment channels with Hashed TimeLock Contracts. Both of those things are currently usable on Bitcoin mainnet without segregated witness. https://segwit.org/is-segregated-witness-necessary-to-implement-the-lightning-network-6c4545a9f9f1https://www.anythingcrypto.com/guides/segwit-bitcoin-lightning-network-explainedWhat is the Lightning Network The Lightning Network is very different to Segwit. It proposes using smart contracts to create payment channels that only have to sync with the blockchain after a fixed amount of time. e.g. multiple payments might be processed off the blockchain, then all of them added in one blockchain transaction. This raises security concerns about users creating fake payments - which is why Segwit also needs be implemented (as it solves this security issue). Often Segwit and the Lightning Network will be discussed in the same threads because of its reliance on Segwit. Tek you know all this...are you part of the game? All we are doing is chatting, while waiting for the inevitable, BCH will become defacto bitcoin...segwet free. Lightning network requires just a malleability fix it does not need to be segwit it just happens that segwit is the best fix availableYes it will work without segwit or a malleability fix but the smart contract that holds the funds securely on chain is identified by it's transaction id it will work just fine without segwit or a malleability fix the only time a issue would arise is if the opening transaction gets affected by this bug and would result is total loss of funds nothing more and this would be a deal breaker reason bitmain etc do not like segwit is that it blocks their use of covert asicboost segwet is more than what you said in your opening comment..dont care about you now saying, it is the best fix available...you could have said that before, but you choose not to, you choose to lie saying it only served one purpose.... and make out i knew nothing... you know fine well...no segwet ,no ln as loss of funds would be a deal breaker as you just said. then you say...reason bitmain etc do not like segwit is that it blocks their use of covert asicboost so another purpose of segwet..other than malleability and using to use ln... so much for it only serving one purpose as you claimed earlier. |
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on: April 11, 2018, 09:11:36 AM
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I rest my case you could not give 1 valid reason I asked about segwit and you go off on some bullshit rant about LN
LN is not setwit LN is a payment network and segwit is a transaction malleability fix nothing more.
It moves the signature data to a different part of the block out of the transaction area that's all it does nothing more
Thankyou for confirming you know nothing
It is impressive you are still trying to talk sense to these fucktards. You can't make them see what's going on while they are paid to spread FUD. On the other hand we shouldn't be letting them FUD neither because crypto community is so new, some people will get deceived by these clowns eventually. I remember when I was neutral to this whole bcash unlimited-Bitcoin debate back then. One of these retards was advising me to not read reddit too much. I read even more and I see who's evil now. Here another merit for your efforts. You are doing god's work. I'm not trying to convince them that is a dead end but leave true information so newcomers can come and see both sides, do their own research and come to their own conclusion Unlike the Bcash crew that is just out to decieve everyone Is segregated witness necessary to implement the Lightning Network? Lightning Network (LN) uses payment channels with Hashed TimeLock Contracts. Both of those things are currently usable on Bitcoin mainnet without segregated witness. https://segwit.org/is-segregated-witness-necessary-to-implement-the-lightning-network-6c4545a9f9f1https://www.anythingcrypto.com/guides/segwit-bitcoin-lightning-network-explainedWhat is the Lightning Network The Lightning Network is very different to Segwit. It proposes using smart contracts to create payment channels that only have to sync with the blockchain after a fixed amount of time. e.g. multiple payments might be processed off the blockchain, then all of them added in one blockchain transaction. This raises security concerns about users creating fake payments - which is why Segwit also needs be implemented (as it solves this security issue). Often Segwit and the Lightning Network will be discussed in the same threads because of its reliance on Segwit. True or False? |
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on: April 11, 2018, 07:33:12 AM
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You cannot sell segwit here any more - try elsewhere.
This is about Satoshi's Whitpaper impl.
read it
I will ask you the same what is your issue with it Ask me, ask me..pleeeease ...me, me Ok you answer in your own words since the other two obviously don't have a valid reason and decided to just ignore this question but are happy to respond to everything else Its shit, Its a scam, It was always part of the plan ok get this, i know you wont believe me..but here goes.. btc was always meant to HF to upgrade....but to many bagholders from years had to be rid off first. While trying to rid of bagholders, some person/group decided... hey since the banks want into crypto , lets sell them this 2nd layer on an old fork... we can take the bankers money and make them wait years for something that wont even work.... oh and while we make them wait, we can get them to tie up their old btc on LN, then when the time is right... we take the LN funds ,destroy old btc,segwet & ln and follow the real bitcoin...BCH Once BCH gets majority hashpower, it becomes the true bitcoin. My words I rest my case you could not give 1 valid reason I asked about segwit and you go off on some bullshit rant about LN LN is not setwit LN is a payment network and segwit is a transaction malleability fix nothing more. It moves the signature data to a different part of the block out of the transaction area that's all it does nothing more Thankyou for confirming you know nothing You asked for my own words,lol right think about this,what has happened with both coins... BCH on every exchange...becoming more popular everyday... BCH has a growing list of merchants... Alot of $investment has been put into BCH in such a short time period...the old skool btc guys are all in BCH..why? btc since segwit has lost so many huge merchants, making it unusable as a currency It has not been a good store of value either... yea i know nothing oh as for why i go on about LN and link segwet to it all the time... Is segregated witness necessary to implement the Lightning Network? Lightning Network (LN) uses payment channels with Hashed TimeLock Contracts. Both of those things are currently usable on Bitcoin mainnet without segregated witness. https://segwit.org/is-segregated-witness-necessary-to-implement-the-lightning-network-6c4545a9f9f1https://www.anythingcrypto.com/guides/segwit-bitcoin-lightning-network-explainedWhat is the Lightning Network The Lightning Network is very different to Segwit. It proposes using smart contracts to create payment channels that only have to sync with the blockchain after a fixed amount of time. e.g. multiple payments might be processed off the blockchain, then all of them added in one blockchain transaction. This raises security concerns about users creating fake payments - which is why Segwit also needs be implemented (as it solves this security issue). Often Segwit and the Lightning Network will be discussed in the same threads because of its reliance on Segwit. Tek you know all this...are you part of the game? All we are doing is chatting, while waiting for the inevitable, BCH will become defacto bitcoin...segwet free. |
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on: April 10, 2018, 11:08:35 PM
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You cannot sell segwit here any more - try elsewhere.
This is about Satoshi's Whitpaper impl.
read it
I will ask you the same what is your issue with it Ask me, ask me..pleeeease ...me, me Ok you answer in your own words since the other two obviously don't have a valid reason and decided to just ignore this question but are happy to respond to everything else Its shit, Its a scam, It was always part of the plan ok get this, i know you wont believe me..but here goes.. btc was always meant to HF to upgrade....but to many bagholders from years had to be rid off first. While trying to rid of bagholders, some person/group decided... hey since the banks want into crypto , lets sell them this 2nd layer on an old fork... we can take the bankers money and make them wait years for something that wont even work.... oh and while we make them wait, we can get them to tie up their old btc on LN, then when the time is right... we take the LN funds ,destroy old btc,segwet & ln and follow the real bitcoin...BCH Once BCH gets majority hashpower, it becomes the true bitcoin. My words |
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