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1561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 29, 2017, 07:26:34 AM
BFD  Smiley

Last dip under $2500....before it goes over $3k  Cool
1562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax on: December 29, 2017, 06:17:41 AM
id be extra careful with this coin , esp at this price....the track record of these devs....not gd imo

also ask yourselves this...with zksnarks being implemented in BCH from 14 jan 2018....is there any need for btcp or whatever zcl will become?

anyways, gd luck on what you decide to do.
1563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 28, 2017, 09:05:51 PM
excellent read
https://np.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6rxw7k/informative_btc_vs_bch_articles/dl8v4lp/
1564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 28, 2017, 06:51:27 PM
lols, im scared to click on your links  Cheesy
if its really important, leave more info on the video and ill look it up  Smiley

Basically a video from CNBC I think about bitcoin and bcash
ahh cnbc, they are always confused looking lols
at least they are trying  Cheesy
1565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 28, 2017, 06:36:32 PM
lols, im scared to click on your links  Cheesy
if its really important, leave more info on the video and ill look it up  Smiley
1566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 28, 2017, 01:09:36 PM
^
ididnt cut anything lol,
where did you say it before? lol
ahh i see it now...BECAUSE YOU FKN EDITED IT AFTER I QUOTED YOU ...duh
reduces fees to nothing....you talking about segwit?lightining ?thunder?

I added it straight away and you replied like 5 mins after I edited that's why I asked

No im talking about you all going on about sub cent fees which last I checked Bcash was now up to 10c per transaction on average so rising already but once block rewards have gone 99% will be gone in 10 years then all miners can earn are fees and with such low fees the miners won't earn anything so why would miners that are incentified by rewards push for a chain that will be dropping their mining rewards without alternative motives

so your saying, when btc/bch stops being mined the miners need high fees...this is a blockstream saying from a while back, i remember it well.
they give us high fees now to prepare us for when the blocks stop getting mined..like in 100years time i think, not 10yrs.
basically what you are calling a problem isnt a problem for a very very long time.

No I said 99% will be gone in 10 years with the further 1% going over the next 100 years were at about 80% now

So there are several possible outcomes

1. The fees will start getting really high really fast (Unlikely with unlimited blockspace as proposed)
2. Miners just start abandoning for the higher profitability coin and leave BCH weak and dying or refusing to mine low fee transactions forcing higher fees
3. With unlimited blocks and more centralised nodes in the hands of the miners they will force a higher total supply printing money at will inflating way past the 21m cap (Possible)

The miners/creators of BCH are not thinking about long term just what they can get now and as fast as possible

What are your thoughts on when the mining rewards start dwindling away and relying on fees what will happen


what are my thoughts on miners fees after 10years and up too the next 100years?
2028-2128....hmmm damn thats a long time away....im sure alot will happen by then....tbh i dont know except it has to it evolve...as it currently has into BCH  Smiley
To give us a slow and extremly high fee service today is your solution on old btc chain...i think your trying to solve something that doesnt exist.
i prefer the way BCH is doing it...nakamoto styleee  Wink

let me ask you something...
since segwit is now permanently part of old btc chain, is it fair that it keeps the ticker/name?
tbh it should be btcsegwit1x or something to help people identify what it actually is.
1567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 28, 2017, 12:25:51 PM
^
ididnt cut anything lol,
where did you say it before? lol
ahh i see it now...BECAUSE YOU FKN EDITED IT AFTER I QUOTED YOU ...duh
reduces fees to nothing....you talking about segwit?lightining ?thunder?

I added it straight away and you replied like 5 mins after I edited that's why I asked

No im talking about you all going on about sub cent fees which last I checked Bcash was now up to 10c per transaction on average so rising already but once block rewards have gone 99% will be gone in 10 years then all miners can earn are fees and with such low fees the miners won't earn anything so why would miners that are incentified by rewards push for a chain that will be dropping their mining rewards without alternative motives

so your saying, when btc/bch stops being mined the miners need high fees...this is a blockstream saying from a while back, i remember it well.
they give us high fees now to prepare us for when the blocks stop getting mined..like in 100years time i think, not 10yrs.
basically what you are calling a problem isnt a problem for a very very long time.
1568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 28, 2017, 11:43:38 AM
^
ididnt cut anything lol,
where did you say it before? lol
ahh i see it now...BECAUSE YOU FKN EDITED IT AFTER I QUOTED YOU ...duh
reduces fees to nothing....you talking about segwit?lightining ?thunder?
1569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 28, 2017, 11:34:55 AM
lots of  red as expected, but i dont think it wil last long, the market held very nicely above $500bill  Smiley


BCH is cheap now, im buying more. ...i see btc $$ coming into BCH.
...if it goes lower ill keep buying  Smiley

BCH is btc guys...the sooner everyone wakes up and realises the better.
Its the true fork, BCH forked 1 day before segwit infected and basically killed off the old slow btc chain.

btc was needing upgraded, the only way was to hardfork,however for the first time, the old fork kept the name and ticker...but for how long?

as more value & infrastructure comes into BCH , it will eventually become the true upgraded bitcoin  (cheaper,faster and private)
the old chain will fade away and will become an alt coin called segwit1x
 like when eth forked off from the dao and the old eth chain became etc while the new chain continued as eth.

BUY , ACCUMULATE AND HODL BCH
2018, 1 BCH= $25K+
 Cool Kiss


ETH Officially upgraded (Like SegWit) but a small group didn't like the upgrade (Like Bcash community) therefore released ETC (Like Bcash) causing a minority chain

The same happened when Bcash Upgraded (New DAA) a small group did not like the change (Clashic Community) therefore went of on their own (Bitcoin Clashic) causing a minority chain

Fun Fact the Clashic chain is now ahead of the Bcash chain in blocks but way behind in accumulated difficulty just the same as Bcash is ahead of Bitcoin in blocks but way behind in accumulated difficulty




wrong wrong wrong
trust me, i know exactly what happned with eth and how etc came about, i was in the thick of it...check me old posts if you want.
eth forked and took its name with it, etc kept the old chain but not the name.

you still havent told me if your part of adams shill team?
tbh im convinced you are somehow involved with blockstream, you have been here from day1 in this thread only and never have anything positive to say for BCH..why?
who the fk spends 4months daily on a thread to fud?  
are you adam? lols   im mean you could be , i hear gmaxwell is lauda. is this what you guys do instead of working as devs...you troll forums fulltime?

Yes ETH forked and took the name but it was an official fork just like when Bcash went with the new DAA and left clashic the point was it was official and not some disgruntled miners

I have nothing to do with blockstream and im far from here daily ive barely been here recently and in the time ive not this place has been pretty much dead


eth fork was official because the community was and is behind the great dev team and its a combined effort to make eth hardforks work smoothly.

btc hardfork was not easy with so many factions in the whole community and no natural leader(satoshi gone)
blockstream were given a chance, they were given time...in the end no one is happy about what the have done to btc.
It will take a bit off time but eventually everyone will understand how and why forks are essential to crypto upgrades...
and if the newer fork has a bigger community backing then it gets the old forks..name,value and infrastructure....as it always has been on all crypto coins.
1570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 28, 2017, 11:19:23 AM
lots of  red as expected, but i dont think it wil last long, the market held very nicely above $500bill  Smiley


BCH is cheap now, im buying more. ...i see btc $$ coming into BCH.
...if it goes lower ill keep buying  Smiley

BCH is btc guys...the sooner everyone wakes up and realises the better.
Its the true fork, BCH forked 1 day before segwit infected and basically killed off the old slow btc chain.

btc was needing upgraded, the only way was to hardfork,however for the first time, the old fork kept the name and ticker...but for how long?

as more value & infrastructure comes into BCH , it will eventually become the true upgraded bitcoin  (cheaper,faster and private)
the old chain will fade away and will become an alt coin called segwit1x
 like when eth forked off from the dao and the old eth chain became etc while the new chain continued as eth.

BUY , ACCUMULATE AND HODL BCH
2018, 1 BCH= $25K+
 Cool Kiss


ETH Officially upgraded (Like SegWit) but a small group didn't like the upgrade (Like Bcash community) therefore released ETC (Like Bcash) causing a minority chain

The same happened when Bcash Upgraded (New DAA) a small group did not like the change (Clashic Community) therefore went of on their own (Bitcoin Clashic) causing a minority chain

Fun Fact the Clashic chain is now ahead of the Bcash chain in blocks but way behind in accumulated difficulty just the same as Bcash is ahead of Bitcoin in blocks but way behind in accumulated difficulty




wrong wrong wrong
Firstly segwit is not an upgrade,. we have discussed this many times, you know its not.
trust me, i know exactly what happned with eth and how etc came about, i was in the thick of it...check me old posts if you want.
eth forked and took its name with it, etc kept the old chain but not the name.

you still havent told me if your part of adams shill team?
tbh im convinced you are somehow involved with blockstream, you have been here from day1 in this thread only and never have anything positive to say for BCH..why?
who the fk spends 4months daily on a thread to fud?  
are you adam? lols   im mean you could be , i hear gmaxwell is lauda. is this what you guys do instead of working as devs...you troll forums fulltime?
1571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 28, 2017, 11:01:20 AM
lots of  red as expected, but i dont think it wil last long, the market held very nicely above $500bill  Smiley


BCH is cheap now, im buying more. ...i see btc $$ coming into BCH.
...if it goes lower ill keep buying  Smiley

BCH is btc guys...the sooner everyone wakes up and realises the better.
Its the true fork, BCH forked 1 day before segwit infected and basically killed off the old slow btc chain.

btc was needing upgraded, the only way was to hardfork,however for the first time, the old fork kept the name and ticker...but for how long?

as more value & infrastructure comes into BCH , it will eventually become the true upgraded bitcoin  (cheaper,faster and private)
the old chain will fade away and will become an alt coin called segwit1x
 like when eth forked off from the dao and the old eth chain became etc while the new chain continued as eth.

BUY , ACCUMULATE AND HODL BCH
2018, 1 BCH= $25K+
  Cool Kiss
1572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 27, 2017, 12:50:51 PM
Happy holidays guys  Smiley

I think we could be heading for a overall crypto market correction soon.
May see alot of red on alot of coins.
Plan ahead
gd luck  Smiley
1573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 23, 2017, 05:44:13 AM
1574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 23, 2017, 04:09:59 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7lm1qd/you_guys_where_right_the_whole_time_bitcoin_cash/
submitted an hour ago by don-wonton

3 months ago I never thought I’d be on this side of the debate. I was a core follower, speaking hate about everything this sub stands for. I was lucky to realize how censored r/bitcoin was due to some bots that malfunctioned, realizing that something wasn’t right. Slowly I learned the true, sad story of Bitcoin. I’ve just written out my paper for a video talking about the lies core tells about the necessity for running nodes, and how easy it truly is to scale bitcoin/cash. I’ve remained slightly skeptical until now. It’s so obvious at this point, it’s depressing how most people won’t ever realize it. I just wanted to thank to this community for fighting what is right, and supporting me along the way. You people keep the spirit of of what Bitcoin was supposed to be alive!

Fuck you BlockStream. Im literally dedicating all my spare time, to do whatever it takes to help bring you down.




Welcome to the family Don  Smiley
1575  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 23, 2017, 01:21:24 AM
^it is a virus

You know I don't think I've posted in this thread but I've been following it and you should be put on the cover of Time Magazine as Shill of the Year.  I'm not posting to fud BCH.  I still hold all of mine since the fork.  But you are just ridiculous and are cluttering this thread with garbage.  BCH will not replace bitcoin regardless of how hard you run your mouth.  Bitcoin is in the mainstream.  There are stocks that follow it.  There is a futures market.  It has gained adoption as the top cryptocurrency.  Bitcoins future is not that of a daily currency used to make purchases but that of a store of wealth.
There are so many inconsistencies and falsehoods in your posts that it would be impossible to point them all out.  
Why don't you just go back to the playground and play on the merry go round with the rest of the children.


You really are lame.  Who cares if Ally offers CME bitcoin futures.  There are other places that do.  From the link that YOU posted:

lols...salty



ello oldie..sorry for delay getting back from the merrygo round lol

ok lets do this shall we...
firstly you said "I've been following it and you should be put on the cover of Time Magazine as Shill of the Year."
so 2 things i say back is..thank you for following me on this thread lol Smiley then, being #1shill for how bitcoin is meant to upgrade and being on tm, ill take that as an early compliment  Kiss
lols,then you say im filling the thread with garbage but you fail to contribute anything yourself..until now!

Next then you go on this lil rant "BCH will not replace bitcoin regardless of how hard you run your mouth.  Bitcoin is in the mainstream.  There are stocks that follow it.  There is a futures market.  It has gained adoption as the top cryptocurrency.  Bitcoins future is not that of a daily currency used to make purchases but that of a store of wealth.
There are so many inconsistencies and falsehoods in your posts that it would be impossible to point them all out. "

seriously m8, your sounding more like a newbie than an oldcoinguru...
just because something was mainstream (myspace,nokia,kodak,kazaa,etc) doesnt mean the new updated version cant be just as mainstream and even more popular,(fb,iphone,etc)
(or do you still play ps1 over the ps4, which version is more popular and more valuble today?)
 esp by offering better upgrades that work now...like faster and cheaper tx (and soon zk snarks)

now the rest of the stuff you mention ,stocks ,futures...they will really take off, once BCH claims #1 spot(reclaims the btc ticker) and we all unite behind satoshis vision..not blockstreams VIRUS infected segwitchain. then the futures will be going long and to scared to short.

and lastly, gtfo with the dumb store of wealth crap, how is people wealth doing in past 2weeks on btc? down 40% fk...you call that store of wealth..wake the fk up m8,
it was under $1k for last6yrs!!!  alt coins have out performed it consistently as a better investment for past 2yrs (this yr xrp x200 ,last yr eth x60)
btc got its value from useabilty, its lost that now, (steam,newegg,and others leaving btc)

why are you segwitters so slow to understand how and why hard forks exist....ffs are you all really this thick?

i hope you contribute more here and maybe focus your conversation more on the topic and less on me  Wink
1576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 22, 2017, 08:55:35 PM
Ally Invest Opts Against Offering CME Bitcoin Futures
https://www.investopedia.com/news/ally-invest-opts-against-offering-cme-bitcoin-futures/
1577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 22, 2017, 05:21:09 PM
^ok i checked your history...your a litecoiner..lols, hows that coming along eh?
now gtfo you unpaid shill....if adam is paying you, he better get a refund cause your doing a terrible job lols
1578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 22, 2017, 05:17:05 PM
271633 Unconfirmed Transactions Live updating list of new bitcoin transactions and growing at an incredible speed OMG
https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions


Nice noobie dump on BCH, they gonna cry  Grin
Im buying $2880, sweeeeeet ....averge down if it drops...dont sell your BCH....ACCUMULATE  Kiss

lmao this guy is absolutely clueless.
and as for you sweatyidiot....check and know who you talking about before commenting, could help you look less stupid in the future.

In the few weeks, ive called xrp from 25cents to over $1 , verge to new ath , komodo 2x within 24hours, and a few others

i have a mindspan longer than your goldfish brain....i look ahead...not 24hours ahead like you....i think ahead, weeks, months & yrs ahead...
go check my history then...stfu  Kiss

Looks ahead but he didn't catch the coinbase announcement stating users who had BCH in Aug would have access to it now which may possibly push the price down a tiny bit no?  Good call @ buying around 3k though, solid foresight.   A very intelligent individual who called that people would value ripple @ more than 100 billion dollars LOLOLOL
ffs , your really making yourself look stupid  Cheesy
coinbase ...do you know they also said to thier users back in aug to withdraw their btc if they wanted bch?
your one of these captain hindsight trolls,lol...i bet you aint ever made a proper crypto call in your life...until after it happens  Cheesy
you sell on the top all the time and always buy at the bottom dont you...NOT  Cheesy

btw as for xrp..it was $100mill when i got in this yr march and i said it was going over $1 and over $40bill by end of this yr...it did Wink  so again ,stfu and go learn something other than trolling and making yourself look stupid...
unless you actually are...stupid lol

1579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 22, 2017, 04:41:16 PM
 Erik Voorhees‏Verified account @ErikVoorhees
https://twitter.com/ErikVoorhees/status/944064084562952192
Fellow Bitcoiners, are you ever going to realize how problematic these fees are getting? Avg fees now over $40 per tx. A year ago avg fee was $4. A year prior, $0.40. Growing faster than price, and exponentially with usage. We just spent $4800 to move 15 BTC in one TX.

1580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 22, 2017, 04:11:17 PM
^it is a virus
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