^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

ffs all you roger ver fans,,stfu pls lols
he owns old btc aswell, have you all forgot?

BCH is Bitcoin...old fork btc is blockstream coin...understand the facts please.

Where is this basic info you keep finding? please dont send me to reddit or twitter lol
What about the cost of opening and closing a channel?

Guys as you may or may not know...its not easy finding info on this lightning stuff.
I have been looking at it more to see what the fuss is all about and tbh...ITS SHIT lol

The noobies and alot more barely understand basic crypto wallet-wallet stuff...how the hell does anyone expect them to learn about paychans and hubs aswell,lol.
Then the lightning network expects you to tie up funds in the network order to use it...NO chance people are going to do that in such a volatile market.
The LN expects businesses to adopt it, hold btc in hubs and provide liquidty for it (or something) ...again merchants have left and they will not come back to a system thats even more complex....
I could go on and on...
jeeezz i wish you guys(segweeters) discussed this sooner....created a thread , had a chat...because im 100% serious...LN IS SHIT.

^ BCH PLS 

http://www.chaintip.org/ ..sweeet...now can we get this active on bitcointalk??

^ wow mindrust, your love for roger is real  
I bet you have a picture of roger on your pillow too  

https://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/7qwojp/patcrypti_just_created_my_own_currency_on_blks/ 




https://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/7ro924/blackcoinloremelinda/
After many weeks of work new Lore is ready. https://github.com/janko33bd/bitcoin/releases/tag/v2.12.1.0-7bc7f54)

wallet.dat from 1.2.4 is not compatible with Lore

 
Here are some of it's new features in more details:

support for colored coins transactions
Original wallet does not accept colored coins transaction with more then 40bytes additional information, only Lore does

drivechains support
Extended Script opCodes to OP_ACK to count voting on new drive chain

Miner will be deployed later with an advent of rskj porting to blackcoin

0 confirmation transaction support
Ported from bitcoinxt

-respendnotify=<cmd> Execute command when a network tx respends wallet

UI alert when double spend is detected

RPC help for respendsobserved and walletconflicts

Respendsobserved array to gettransaction, listtransactions, and listsinceblock RPCs was added

Ddos protection against many 0 confirmation transactions
Rate-limit re-spend relays to a default of 100 thousand bytes/minute

Equivalent transactions are not relayed

Re-spends are not relayed into our wallet unless they conflict with it.

new address style with "blackcoin:" prefix, easy to remember(turned on with option)
Ported from Bitcoin-ABC

This is a wrapper around normal address, old address still work

blackcoin: prefix is added, you are not able to send BTC or other crypto to this type of BLK address(which is possible now..)

All letters are small, it's easy to remember

Address can be checksummed

Allows zero knowledge transactions

Turned on by adding -usecashaddr option

Old address style still works

fixed memory leaks
Cherry picked commits from bitcoin core to stop memory leaks

staking icon fixed
It was reported many times that the green arrow goes from staking to not staking every 30s, which is fixed now

toggle for unmasking password
Password can be unmasked to see actual letters and not *

wallet refactored
Ported from bitcoin core

build scripts refactored
Ported from bitcoin core

new 0.13 RPC
Compatibility enhanced for many different soft like join-market which uses this RPC..

Block builder patches
ported from bitcoin core

HD on GUI from 0.14
Lore was HD for a ling time, you just need 1 master key to backup every coin in your wallet

You have to start Lore with empty wallet and receive the coins

This shows "HD" sign in GUI when your wallet is Hierarchical Deterministic(HD).

auto-complete in console
Every command is now completed for your convenience

stake balance added to overview page
Overview page didn't have Stake section, so the stake coins were not shown.

RPC for malleability detection of standard transaction
New rpc call is added getnormalizedtxid <hex string> which return non-malleable txid

 

Donation address is used for rewards!

BAvuYBULaxGiRERsXH1ivNgXw7RobntLQm

 

This all could not be possible without other developers work and time spent on Lore.

Every developers time and work is rewarded.

Over 2000 BLK were already rewarded to the helping dev's.

Ask in Gitter, where and how you can help!




Excellent work guys 

Sorry i dont speak noobish 

The face you make when you smell a BCH pump coming..

Hi newbie...Obviously you do not know that Bitcoin cash is Bitcoin ...its segwet coin thats the old fork...thats what people need to learn about...ohh but where?

Yea i also see segwetters asking for 8mb blocks but it just aint happining lols
Thing is, we are on bitcointalk, not bitcointwitter or bitcoinreddit...
Where on bitcointalk are these Bitcoin cash users asking for LN?   
Where on bitcointalk will people be able to learn what you know about segwet/LN? and not just learn from you but from the devs too.

I noticed you called BCH BitCash , thats progress imo lol just another four letters bro and your their...cmon try it..Bitcoin Cash 

Great info tek...but wrong thread wouldn't you say?

Why do you guys struggle to be honest?

Why not say the truth?  You had a look around and were surprised to see the lack of enthusiam on any thread for segwet/lightning crap.
You discovered there is no busy thread with long term and new community members comunicating with the devs of segwet/lightning.

Its that simple , but noooooo, you dumb trolls just like to misled and lie....ffs people here are not as dumb as you...wake up or stfu 

^no point going on about the red trust, we all know who done it and why.
Its a badge of honour for us guys  , as it shows we are doing something right and are being censored, but your troll brain wouldn't understand that.

Again your failed to answer a simple question, your link to a search box is not what i asked for  

you see this is the pathetic response i expected from a segwetter....

NONE OF YOU TROLLS HAVE AN ANSWER 

 

I said Bitcointalk thread...there is nothing in the search box here for segwit...
I did not ask for reddit threads.
So you say for over a year core has been trying to help ....again where is it on bitcointalk?  links please.
and who is this "we" you refer too? where are these "we", so i can have a lil chat with them in an unmoderated thread on bitcointalk.

Also big thing for me....Bitcoin is NOT bitcoin core!, the segwet community is bitcoin core and the segwit community doesnt exist.

great comment m8....


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I agree with the facts of your video in that LN is going to be for the banks and a disaster for BTC. However it is not all just the block size that is what really happened even though it is what everyone has been in an uproar about but was merely the icing on the cake. The real subversion happened in March of 2015 wherein they added RBF or replace by fee which broke zero-conf and first seen. 

https://theflippening.github.io/open-letter-to-bitcoin-miners-from-another-miner/
"Due to the constant high fees and network congestion, they introduced an anti-feature called Replace By Fee (RBF) https://medium.com/@octskyward/replace-by-fee-43edd9a1dd6d (Mar 28, 2015). The aim of this was to allow users to pay a higher fee for transactions that were stuck and unconfirmed. This broke a critical feature called Zero-Conf which meant merchants could reliably accept a low value transaction with no confirmations as long as it was the first transaction seen on the network. Merchants could monitor key nodes around the network and reliably detect double spends with very good accuracy which allowed them to accept transactions with high confidence within 10 seconds and not have to wait minutes or hours for confirmations. Zero-Conf worked great for Brick and Mortar stores like buying your morning coffee. With the RBF feature, now users could pay for their goods, leave the store, then send the same transaction again but this time with a higher fee and send the amount back to their own wallet and rob the merchant in broad daylight. This feature robs Bitcoin of being a useful Point of Sale transaction mechanism."

So, to counter the double spend problem, which they created with their greed and desire for higher fees and corporate centralization, they added segwit which would later lead the way and allow the Lightning Network.

This entire uproar and fiasco with segwit vs segwit 2x forks etc was supposedly because of a slowing BTC and increasingly high fees and it was, however they created the problem to begin with in order to bring in their solution.

This is critically called the Hegelian Dialectic or Problem, Reaction, Solution. Create the problem (slow and high fees), get a reaction (please help us btc users) then offer up the solution, that being the one that they desired in the first place. Segwit vs 2x was merely a circus show to distract from what was being created in the first place. Blockstream and the other corp types like Mastercard and related Bilderburg connections are behind all of this since 2015 and were behind both Segwit and 2x.

They offered up both solutions to their problem and then let the people choose which cup of poison they wanted. It has all been a masterful deception wherein they will be the ultimate winners unless we the people see through this deception and choose wisely.

Lots of rumours as to when and why...

I have two reasons of my own on why he quit...
1- So he can spend more time as a troll here...fighting the cause for adams online troll team...

2 -He wants to be in the next star wars movie