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521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The bottom will drop out of the alt market soon on: April 22, 2016, 11:02:26 PM
So, what will happen?

Prepare for the crash.

How much are you willing to bet against bitcoin reaching $600 in 2016?

I am betting my $400 - $600 lost profit when I sell my remaining 4 BTC at $450 to $500.
522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Ethereum Paradox on: April 22, 2016, 10:57:59 PM
Very nice critique from GMax

The juicer part:

All of these radical improvements in scalablity, privacy, and flexibility show up when you realize that "turing complete" is the wrong tool, that what our systems do is verification, not computation.  This cognitive error confers no advantage, outside of marketing to people with a fuzzy idea of what smart contracts might be good for in the first place.

More powerful smart contracting in the world of Bitcoin will absolutely be a thing, I don't doubt. But the marketing blather around ethereum isn't power, it's a boat anchor-- a vector for consensus inconsistency and decentralization destroying resource exhaustion and incentives mismatches. Fortunately, the cognitive framework I've described here is well understood in the community of Bitcoin experts.

But Gmax is missing one insight. That being that verification doesn't need to replicated at every node in order for it to be decentralized. Wink That is my little secret for now  Lips sealed
523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin? on: April 22, 2016, 10:44:12 PM
TPTB... a couple of questions I have just begun to read Martin Armstrong in conjuction with all the post you link him to.  I speculated that the US is headed for a financial crunch sooner then later.  It wasnt until I read your quote about rising interest rates and the in flow of dollars would be a contributing factor to the chaos, it makes the puzzle a bit more clear.  First, to you have a blog that you post to regularly that covers your economic thoughts as well as your idea to write your own coding language? 

Why the return to the US in 17-18 when things are projected to begin to decline?  Additionally would the launching of a new social platform be started out in jeporday if the economy is not able to support it because of its on going collapse?(you may ave covered this in your whitepaper, if so i can read it when it is issued)

Peace
Dink

Please read the past few pages of the Martin Armstrong thread in the Economics forum. Also the Economic Totalitarianism thread there. I also contributed a lot to the Economic Devastation thread.

Sorry I don't have an more organized resource of my commentary to offer.
524  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: April 22, 2016, 10:09:57 PM
If you want self reliance - the state you're looking for is Alaska.

Tried that already (Philippines) and you can see how well it worked out for me.  Undecided

I love the people of Alaska (Montana is good too).  Think Texas isn't going to live up to your expectations.

I am talking about how the society will segregate into those who can't agree with each other. I am pointing out to not conflate social liberalism with fiscal liberalism.

BTW ... I went to New Orleans with my GF and her flaming gay bff (worst mistake ever).  Don't envy anyone who had to grow up in that shithole.

Hahaha. Yeah but there was time when the Jazz and culture was really raw and real, but it is mostly just a shithole now with the redeeming qualities (the remaining creole culture) not at the commercialized junctures that you would see if just passing through.

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Don't mistake the social issues liberalism of Millennials with their fiscal conservatism. They chose Texas instead of the NorthWet because they want to do it differently than their boomer parents who have taken control over the NorthWet (Oregon and WA State).

Na .... I'm talking about all the Bernie lovers I meet.  

That is precisely my point. Bernie is the social liberal version of Trump. They are both attacking the bankers and both are making unrealistic fiscal promises.

The Millennials have always been immature for their age. They've got the part down now about the bankers fucking us over, but they haven't yet learned the reality of not balancing the budget. When they lose their social security entirely and the economy goes belly up in 2018, they will start to grow up real fast and then we will see. I don't think they will support piling on more socialism to try to solve the problem. If they are that incapable of learning, then maybe the entire USA will get sucked down.

But there is this little problem. There are a lot of conservative Americans with guns. And they are not going to let the government rape them. When the shit hits the fan, they will take control. Stoic guns versus giggling faggots and I think you know who will be the boss.

I don't know yet for sure where the conservatives are going to congregate to make their stand. Maybe you are correct they will all migrate to Montana, but I doubt it. And I have no doubt whatsoever that they are not going to lay over and let the socialism run all over them.

The government can't kill millions of armed Americans. The elite will be forced into a stalemate same as at Bundy Ranch. The armed Americans will simply refuse to recognize the authority of the government. Bundy Ranch is a small example of what is coming on a much larger scale.

The conversatives have been waiting for this for a long time. They are hoping the confrontation comes soon as possible (because we ain't gettin' any youngeryonder).

https://www.google.com/search?q=Millennials+are+selfish

https://www.google.com/search?q=millennials+fiscally+conservative

There is another possibility which is that States like Texas become more prosperous and don't need any additional socialism. The Federal government may try to force prosperous States to pay for failing States such as Illinois. So we might have the Millennials saying "hell yeah, I don't want to pay for those in Illinois". So it could be the Millennials are more self-centered than their boomer parents and less idealistic about sharing. The boomers went through Vietnam and they believed in the power of government to reshape society, e.g. feminism to uplift women and anti-discrimination to liberate minorities. Me thinks the Millenials only care about themselves because they were spoiled like fuck by their rich boomer parents who suddenly had second batch of children at an older age and tried to correct their mistakes for abandoning us X gen which they gave birth too when they were young and being hippies. We X gen were the flower children (you know sexual liberation). The Y gens were the "we've matured now, let's try again" children.
525  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: April 22, 2016, 10:13:55 AM
Edit: you are entirely wrong on hyperinflation. The history is that only revolutionary and totally broken regimes hyperinflate. The world is composed of very strong regimes and they will not lay down their power by hyperinflating. Armstrong covers this in great detail in his blogs. Required reading material for you.

I read people like Dent

I read Dent extensively around 2005 - 2007 and he ended up being wrong on everything. Then he totally flipflopped and reinvented himself.

Armstrong has been consistently correct since the 1980s.

No comparison. Stop reading that fool Dent.

And stop reading ZeroHedge, except for entertainment value. It is mostly useless noise.
526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The bottom will drop out of the alt market soon on: April 22, 2016, 10:13:28 AM
Edit: you are entirely wrong on hyperinflation. The history is that only revolutionary and totally broken regimes hyperinflate. The world is composed of very strong regimes and they will not lay down their power by hyperinflating. Armstrong covers this in great detail in his blogs. Required reading material for you.

I read people like Dent

I read Dent extensively around 2005 - 2007 and he ended up being wrong on everything. Then he totally flipflopped and reinvented himself.

Armstrong has been consistently correct since the 1980s.

No comparison. Stop reading that fool Dent.

And stop reading ZeroHedge, except for entertainment value. It is mostly useless noise.
527  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: April 22, 2016, 09:54:36 AM
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Chop off Houston and give it to Lousiana (or just make it inhospitable and they will migrate over to Louisiana), then Texas is ready to be its own country. And Texans view themselves more as Texans than they do as Americans. Have you been there? I lived there from 2001 - 2003.

They love their guns, God, and large pickup trucks.

The food stamps correlate with inner city mess and frankly with African Americans in the South (and the "cheap white trash" that has joined with them) whose work ethic was destroyed by the welfare system. Before welfare, the negros were hard working. After, they sat around the porch, got drunk, and the females produced entire absentee father(less) families (with numerous fathers per female).

This is not racist. This is a fact.

I was born in New Orleans and I attended those inner city public schools. I know first hand the situation. I've driven through Houston several times. Don't get me wrong, the majority of African Americans have elevated themselves with college education, etc.., and they will be welcome to migrate to the New Republic of Texas. I was so pleasantly shocked when I was at the UNO library in 1991 to see so many studious African American students.

So I see mass migration where conservatives move to majority conservative States that crack down and defect. And liberals migrating to the liberal States.

Yeah disintegration of the USA into regions.

Humans want self-determination. It is viewed as a fundamental right.

I live two hours from Dallas.  While what you say about Texas was defiantly true 10 to 15 years ago and still is to some extent it's rapidly changing.  Due to the high price of housing & taxes in California a LOT of people & businesses have migrated to Dallas.  People are coming in droves and buying houses with cash.  Of course their west coast liberalism with them.  If you go to south Texas far enough (Laredo) Spanish is more common than English.  Austin has become ground zero for the new hipster capitol of the world.

What you say is still true - but less so and will continue to shrink over the next decade.  I did make a trip down the i35 corridor to Austin a few several weeks ago & the road construction and growth is absolutely insane.  There was a big music concert and apparently Obama showed up to try to explain to all the hipsters why it was necessary for Apple to build the FBI a program to decrypt the iphone.  Hipsters were astonished and felt terrible that Obama was uninformed ... they were sure he didn't understand what he was asking for.

A pity that (all the hipsters and FSA moving in), to lose the one seriously large state that is independent minded.  They flee California, Illinois, New York..., yet they instantly want to Californicate the place, to make it "just like home".  My best friend still lives in Houston, he is beginning to hate it now...

I would NOT have guessed that the young hipsters know so little about what liberty and freedom are really all about.  Such naivete voting for 0bama.

Guess we're screwed.  <=== Hey, that's why I started this thread!

Yeah I made a post recently about how the subprime lending is back in the suburbs around Austin, as there are lower-income, no-down loans for new suburbs springing up like wild flowers with good schools.

But these people apparently have jobs. Thus they are the working class, not the food stamps class.

When the interest rates head up, they lose their house and their jobs in the global economic contagion, many of them are not going to vote to raise their own State taxes. Texas has no income tax.

Latinos are hard working and many of them are not into the food stamp class.

I think we will find that Texas will roll up its sleeves and get to work, and not agree to tax themselves to death. I think Texas will choose to offer incentives for hi-tech firms to relocate there and lower taxes, instead of raising them. I think they will perhaps declare Obamacare null and void within Texas, so companies will relocate there.

It is going to be interesting to observe what happens.

I think the people who left California understand California is broken. These people are proactive enough and don't just sit in California and leech the system. Who would leave the wonderful climate of California for that inferno of Texas if not because they realize California is horribly broken.

The boomer hippies moved from California to Oregon and Washington State. These are the diehard socialists, but they also have a work ethic which may be their saving grace if they loose their bleeding heart for supporting the food stamp class nationwide.

The X gens (and Millennials) are moving to Texas. This is my generation. We are much more pragmatic.

My X generation is going to make its mark finally by saying "enough!" to the boomers being in control. We've always had to be independent because the boomers abandoned us.

Mexico is one of the strongest economies going forward. I think we can see Texas and Mexico in economic synergies. Texas is well set up to be the most economically buoyant area of the United States. i think they will realize as the shit hits the fan, they don't want the rest of the USA parasiting on Texas.

I think when Hellary steals the election, that will be the wake up call.

Edit:

In his book, Fast Future, author David Burstein describes Millennials' approach to social change as "pragmatic idealism," a deep desire to make the world a better place combined with an understanding that doing so requires building new institutions while working inside and outside existing institutions.

A 2014 poll for the libertarian Reason magazine suggested that US Millennials were social liberals and fiscal centrists more often than their global peers. The magazine predicted that millennials would become more conservative on fiscal issues once they started paying taxes.

Don't mistake the social issues liberalism of Millennials with their fiscal conservatism. They chose Texas instead of the NorthWet because they want to do it differently than their boomer parents who have taken control over the NorthWet (Oregon and WA State).
528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [neㄘcash, ᨇcash, net⚷eys, or viᖚes?] Name AnonyMint's vapor coin? on: April 22, 2016, 09:38:23 AM
Have you looked into Singapore?  I have not been there, but read good things about the place.  Singapore, last I heard, was looking for talent, maybe work would be easy to get?  Ya know, if you want it...  LOL.

Singapore is too hot year round because it is too far south. I am looking for a cool climate (at least during winter) so I can work not in air conditioning. The past 2 days it has been cloudy and rainy in Davao and so much more pleasant for working (with the ceiling fan on).

I think also Australia, New Zealand, Chili (and maybe others) have special visa programs for those doing hi-tech startups. But I am looking for a short-term fix later this year. For the more permanent move out 2017ish, I'd like to consider getting out of overcrowded Asia.

I am not that worried about China impinging on me at this early juncture. Down the line it could be potentially be more risky since ostensibly China views open software as a threat to its control over propaganda.
529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 22, 2016, 12:14:33 AM
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Thanks for the support, but the GFW is a great lie. The ASICS only need a hash of the transactions, not all the transactions. The mining pool server can be located outside of China.

That will show you that the ASIC miners in China are greatlousy liars.

I am not so sure. They still have to get the hash of the transactions across the GFWC and the results then back to the server. The issue here is latency not bandwidth.

If mining is centralized in China doesn't that actually transfer the latency issue to non-Chinese miners? Resulting in possible more centralization. I recall reading such a thing.

Right. It is the minority that suffers from delayed block announcements, i.e. this is selfish mining.

Unless Chinese miners have a high latency between themselves within China?

Also I read the GFW was bandwidth limited. It is also latency limited and by how much? The Bitcoin block period is quite large so 100ms increase is probably fairly insignificant in the Poisson distribution.
530  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: April 22, 2016, 12:12:17 AM
Roach was right, TPTB was wrong.

Your verb tense is wrong. The halving has not occurred yet.

Please don't troll. Disingenuous posts are just useless noise.



Hey, it's not just me that has figured it out:

A BTC rise is needed at least for the next month or two to flush out the ICO scams that have been prevalent on the boards since January. All these MAID/WAVES/LISK/UPPERCASESCAMCOIN seem to be coming from the same type of factory. Until this new generation of crypto believers get burnt, they will not learn their lessons, however harsh that sounds. It doesn't mean some of the profiteers will change their stance or all of the ones getting burnt will learn, but that's just the way it is with money.

Btw, I think r0ach might ending up being both correct first and then wrong later. In other words, Bitcoin can blast up to $500 now, altcoins can take dump, and then Bitcoin can dump also in a crash as I think may be coming.
531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The bottom will drop out of the alt market soon on: April 22, 2016, 12:11:18 AM
Roach was right, TPTB was wrong.

Your verb tense is wrong. The halving has not occurred yet.

Please don't troll. Disingenuous posts are just useless noise.



Hey, it's not just me that has figured it out:

A BTC rise is needed at least for the next month or two to flush out the ICO scams that have been prevalent on the boards since January. All these MAID/WAVES/LISK/UPPERCASESCAMCOIN seem to be coming from the same type of factory. Until this new generation of crypto believers get burnt, they will not learn their lessons, however harsh that sounds. It doesn't mean some of the profiteers will change their stance or all of the ones getting burnt will learn, but that's just the way it is with money.

Btw, I think r0ach might ending up being both correct first and then wrong later. In other words, Bitcoin can blast up to $500 now, altcoins can take dump, and then Bitcoin can dump also in a crash as I think may be coming.
532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: So? Why does it matter actually?! on: April 22, 2016, 12:06:23 AM
You know I actually cared enough to read your diatribe on the first page Monero cripple-scam-botnet-miner smooth but I still have one question:

Why does the bugged fastmine matter? I mean you eloquently titled your thread with an indirect question and yet here we are: You haven't answered it.

Why DOES it matter? Explain. Because after 20 pages of piling bullshit upon bullshit you failed to do so.

Because the evidence shows a high probability of deceptive, misleading, and manipulative statements and actions by the insiders, and on top of that, those same insiders are still involved with running the coin now (including enormous holdings that give them effective control over both the market and the faux-decentralized masternode voting). So anyone getting involved with investing in this coin should know who they are trading against and how those very same people have acted in the past in order to gain an unfair advantage for themselves.

Expect to be left holding the bag someday IMO unless you are extremely good, extremely lucky, or you are an insider. The markets are open to anyone though, so make your own decisions.

As I said the other day, smooth and have similar logic, but he is more eloquent.

Well summarized!

I would add that by giving away your money to the Dash insiders, you contribute the destruction of the crypto-currency ecosystem and reputation as a scam haven.
533  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: April 22, 2016, 12:01:45 AM
I actually for the most part agree with it. I  have been a Bitcoin bear for a while simply because I do not like the long term fundamentals. The biggest issue is the 1 MB blocksize issue and the proposals being thrown around are simply too little too late. There is a reason new venture capital is not moving into Bitcoin and that is simply that venture capital demands the possibility of very high growth because of the risk involved. The 1 MB blocksize limit is simply making stagnation part of the Bitcoin protocol and consensus model. I can think of no more effective way to drive venture capital away than to make stagnation an integral part of the Bitcoin protocol and consensus model.

While ASIC centralization is part of he problem, I would argue that were it not for the blocksize limit this alone is not to blame. The issue is that while China is by far the most cost effective place to manufacture ASICs and it also scores well in the electricity and climate are (parts of Northern China do get very cold in the winter) it has a very high latency Internet connectivity to the rest of the world due to the Great Firewall of China. A mid range residential Internet connection in many parts of the world will run circles over the best data centre grade Internet connection behind the Great Fire Wall of China in the mining critical area of latency. What has allowed the centralization in Bitcoin mining to occur is not just ASICs but the combination of a 10 min blocktime with a 1 MB blocksize limit together with ASICs. If Bitcoin had allowed the blocksize to grow back in 2012 - 2013, the Chinese ASIC manufacturer's would have been forced to sell their ASICs for export rather than operate them themselves locally and this would have prevented the concentration of Bitcoin mining in China. We must keep in mind the the Chinese miners are against any significant blocksize increase in Bitcoin for this very reason.

Even if someone developed an ASIC for CryptoNite that was truly competitive, I doubt the kind of mining concentration that has occurred in Bitcoin could happen In Monero simply because China would still be by far the most competitive place to manufacture the ASICs, but the combination of 2 min blocks and an adaptive blocksize limit would make China a very un-competitive place to operate the ASICs.

Thanks for the support, but the GFW is a great lie. The ASICS only need a hash of the transactions, not all the transactions. The mining pool server can be located outside of China.

That will show you that the ASIC miners in China are greatlousy liars.



...

Thanks for the support, but the GFW is a great lie. The ASICS only need a hash of the transactions, not all the transactions. The mining pool server can be located outside of China.

That will show you that the ASIC miners in China are greatlousy liars.

I am not so sure. They still have to get the hash of the transactions across the GFWC and the results then back to the server. The issue here is latency not bandwidth.

If mining is centralized in China doesn't that actually transfer the latency issue to non-Chinese miners? Resulting in possible more centralization. I recall reading such a thing.

Right. It is the minority that suffers from delayed block announcements, i.e. this is selfish mining.

Unless Chinese miners have a high latency between themselves within China?

Also I read the GFW was bandwidth limited. It is also latency limited and by how much? The Bitcoin block period is quite large so 100ms increase is probably fairly insignificant in the Poisson distribution.
534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 22, 2016, 12:00:06 AM
I actually for the most part agree with it. I  have been a Bitcoin bear for a while simply because I do not like the long term fundamentals. The biggest issue is the 1 MB blocksize issue and the proposals being thrown around are simply too little too late. There is a reason new venture capital is not moving into Bitcoin and that is simply that venture capital demands the possibility of very high growth because of the risk involved. The 1 MB blocksize limit is simply making stagnation part of the Bitcoin protocol and consensus model. I can think of no more effective way to drive venture capital away than to make stagnation an integral part of the Bitcoin protocol and consensus model.

While ASIC centralization is part of he problem, I would argue that were it not for the blocksize limit this alone is not to blame. The issue is that while China is by far the most cost effective place to manufacture ASICs and it also scores well in the electricity and climate are (parts of Northern China do get very cold in the winter) it has a very high latency Internet connectivity to the rest of the world due to the Great Firewall of China. A mid range residential Internet connection in many parts of the world will run circles over the best data centre grade Internet connection behind the Great Fire Wall of China in the mining critical area of latency. What has allowed the centralization in Bitcoin mining to occur is not just ASICs but the combination of a 10 min blocktime with a 1 MB blocksize limit together with ASICs. If Bitcoin had allowed the blocksize to grow back in 2012 - 2013, the Chinese ASIC manufacturer's would have been forced to sell their ASICs for export rather than operate them themselves locally and this would have prevented the concentration of Bitcoin mining in China. We must keep in mind the the Chinese miners are against any significant blocksize increase in Bitcoin for this very reason.

Even if someone developed an ASIC for CryptoNite that was truly competitive, I doubt the kind of mining concentration that has occurred in Bitcoin could happen In Monero simply because China would still be by far the most competitive place to manufacture the ASICs, but the combination of 2 min blocks and an adaptive blocksize limit would make China a very un-competitive place to operate the ASICs.

Thanks for the support, but the GFW is a great lie. The ASICS only need a hash of the transactions, not all the transactions. The mining pool server can be located outside of China.

That will show you that the ASIC miners in China are greatlousy liars.
535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Poll - Which social media platform will launch a MVP sooner Synereo or STEEM ? on: April 21, 2016, 10:27:39 PM

OK, so STEEM will soon have the first mover advantage.  Thank you all for participating in my prediction market.  I will invest according to the wisdom of the crowd, because mass adoption is the greatest prize.

Nice try Larimers, but the people in here with an IQ above room temperature aren't buying it.

And those with an IQ double the temperature, are not buying either one.  Tongue

(I wonder if he realizes that is a statement about the upper bound of his IQ)
536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 21, 2016, 10:24:26 PM
Probably nobody here wants to read this viewpoint:

So, what will happen?

Back in 2013 we had Mt.Gox running on fractional/damaged reserve, so there had been more BTC available in trades than BTC total in existance and it did not matter because there was money inflow from the outsides. This year is more solid regarding those issues, just completely isolated market.

The 850,000 Bitcoins stolen (200,000 recovered) from Mt. Gox were roughly 8% of the coin supply. What was likely happening is this supply was employed to manipulate the float on Mt. Gox (buying from yourselves, etc) in order to drive a massive bubble..since 70% of all Bitcoin traded through Mt.Gox.

Given ASICs had come online, miners didn't need to sell as many coins to pay electricity.

The mass media was pumping Bitcoin up every day.

We probably don't have the level of upward price manipulation now. Sorry.

Edit: altcoins became the way to have the float tied up in one or two exchanges (e.g. Ethereum) so the insiders could manipulate the price. Crypto-currency is all about the scams.

Nobody invests into BTC or mining equipment anymore. When did you bought ASICs valued 10.000 USD last time? Aren't those USD you now use to buy BTC just been taken from former BTC sales?

Bitcoin cannot do without Alts, both built up a complete whole economy. Remember people are not buying/selling anything using BTC, they just gamble on Alts. Basically I do agree on BTC up causing Alts going down and vice verse. Enclosed system like two water tanks with a flexible tube connecting them.

This is true. Most people don't want to trade their BTC for a non-CC asset, because this their gambling money. They can't buy mining equipment with BTC to increase their holdings of crypto-currency. This is why ICOs have become more popular than mined distribution, with the ASIC resistant Monero as an exception.

ASICs killed the mining ecosystem. This has been r0ach's point, that if the coins don't circulate, then the ecosystem dies. Bitcoin is dying. Only the altcoin circulation kept Bitcoin alive.

Sorry I see Bitcoin as very vulnerable. No new money is coming in. A global contagion can force some large whales to liquidate to cover their ass in other illiquid loans and investments.

Prepare for the crash.
537  Economy / Economics / Re: Martin Armstrong Discussion on: April 21, 2016, 10:22:49 PM
So, what will happen?

Back in 2013 we had Mt.Gox running on fractional/damaged reserve, so there had been more BTC available in trades than BTC total in existance and it did not matter because there was money inflow from the outsides. This year is more solid regarding those issues, just completely isolated market.

The 850,000 Bitcoins stolen (200,000 recovered) from Mt. Gox were roughly 8% of the coin supply. What was likely happening is this supply was employed to manipulate the float on Mt. Gox (buying from yourselves, etc) in order to drive a massive bubble..since 70% of all Bitcoin traded through Mt.Gox.

Given ASICs had come online, miners didn't need to sell as many coins to pay electricity.

The mass media was pumping Bitcoin up every day.

We probably don't have the level of upward price manipulation now. Sorry.

Edit: altcoins became the way to have the float tied up in one or two exchanges (e.g. Ethereum) so the insiders could manipulate the price. Crypto-currency is all about the scams.

Nobody invests into BTC or mining equipment anymore. When did you bought ASICs valued 10.000 USD last time? Aren't those USD you now use to buy BTC just been taken from former BTC sales?

Bitcoin cannot do without Alts, both built up a complete whole economy. Remember people are not buying/selling anything using BTC, they just gamble on Alts. Basically I do agree on BTC up causing Alts going down and vice verse. Enclosed system like two water tanks with a flexible tube connecting them.

This is true. Most people don't want to trade their BTC for a non-CC asset, because this their gambling money. They can't buy mining equipment with BTC to increase their holdings of crypto-currency. This is why ICOs have become more popular than mined distribution, with the ASIC resistant Monero as an exception.

ASICs killed the mining ecosystem. This has been r0ach's point, that if the coins don't circulate, then the ecosystem dies. Bitcoin is dying. Only the altcoin circulation kept Bitcoin alive.

Sorry I see Bitcoin as very vulnerable. No new money is coming in. A global contagion can force some large whales to liquidate to cover their ass in other illiquid loans and investments.

Prepare for the crash.
538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The bottom will drop out of the alt market soon on: April 21, 2016, 10:22:19 PM
So, what will happen?

Back in 2013 we had Mt.Gox running on fractional/damaged reserve, so there had been more BTC available in trades than BTC total in existance and it did not matter because there was money inflow from the outsides. This year is more solid regarding those issues, just completely isolated market.

The 850,000 Bitcoins stolen (200,000 recovered) from Mt. Gox were roughly 8% of the coin supply. What was likely happening is this supply was employed to manipulate the float on Mt. Gox (buying from yourselves, etc) in order to drive a massive bubble..since 70% of all Bitcoin traded through Mt.Gox.

Given ASICs had come online, miners didn't need to sell as many coins to pay electricity.

The mass media was pumping Bitcoin up every day.

We probably don't have the level of upward price manipulation now. Sorry.

Edit: altcoins became the way to have the float tied up in one or two exchanges (e.g. Ethereum) so the insiders could manipulate the price. Crypto-currency is all about the scams.

Nobody invests into BTC or mining equipment anymore. When did you bought ASICs valued 10.000 USD last time? Aren't those USD you now use to buy BTC just been taken from former BTC sales?

Bitcoin cannot do without Alts, both built up a complete whole economy. Remember people are not buying/selling anything using BTC, they just gamble on Alts. Basically I do agree on BTC up causing Alts going down and vice verse. Enclosed system like two water tanks with a flexible tube connecting them.

This is true. Most people don't want to trade their BTC for a non-CC asset, because this their gambling money. They can't buy mining equipment with BTC to increase their holdings of crypto-currency. This is why ICOs have become more popular than mined distribution, with the ASIC resistant Monero as an exception.

ASICs killed the mining ecosystem. This has been r0ach's point, that if the coins don't circulate, then the ecosystem dies. Bitcoin is dying. Only the altcoin circulation kept Bitcoin alive.

Sorry I see Bitcoin as very vulnerable. No new money is coming in. A global contagion can force some large whales to liquidate to cover their ass in other illiquid loans and investments.

Prepare for the crash.
539  Economy / Economics / Re: One-world reserve currency inevitable and will enslave all nations? on: April 21, 2016, 09:47:22 PM
Incorrect. It rarely ends that way. Only for entirely broken regimes. Sorry Armstrong has all the data. He invested $1 billion collecting it.

In another thread you predict USA will break into regions. Is this not the definition of an entirely broken regime?

Edit: let me give you a quick, incomplete hint. Read Armstrong for the many details and points. The failed regimes were due to dictatorship and/or a bankrupt ideology (e.g. communism in the Weimar Republic).  When the population remains very productive and the debt is actually quite small (e.g. the debt is only $19 trillion in the USA but the productive capacity of the people is that much or more per year), then the society is not failed. We are going to see transition to a world reserve currency. This is not about total failure of government, except Europe is trying hard to achieve that again. China, Russia, USA, Canada, Australia, etc are no where near failed societies.

There is nothing new in the concept of world reserve currency. It can have many components this time, this doesn't change anything in how individual countries manage their economies and their budgets. Individual countries are pretty bad. For bankrupt ideology we have the welfare state. The productive population is shrinking, the liabilities of the governments are growing, you even said this yourself up thread, and there comes a point where society fails unable to bear the weight of liabilities. Enter hyper inflation.

I have read quite a lot of Armstrong, I don't agree with everything.

What is happening is the productive people are breaking free from the unproductive. This is why we need a world reserve currency that no country can abuse.

The elite are doing creative destruction on the nation-state central  banks and currencies. But the productive sector will refuse to become socialists. My X gen is giving the middle finger to that.

Socialism is failing. Those with that ideology will fail. It is not an ideology held by everyone not like in Weimar Germany when everyone was tears and in love with the almighty Socalists and then Hitler. Those who disagreed, were unable to mount any defense nor defection.

I suggest you review this post about Texans and Texas:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1049048.msg14621869#msg14621869

trollercoaster had a similar post about rural Australians.

The Internet makes it possible for us to communicate to each other. Ideological, propaganda shit can't be hoisted on us who are awake. Trump is proving many people are awake. They read blogs.
540  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: April 21, 2016, 09:39:58 PM
Incorrect. It rarely ends that way. Only for entirely broken regimes. Sorry Armstrong has all the data. He invested $1 billion collecting it.

In another thread you predict USA will break into regions. Is this not the definition of an entirely broken regime?

Edit: let me give you a quick, incomplete hint. Read Armstrong for the many details and points. The failed regimes were due to dictatorship and/or a bankrupt ideology (e.g. communism in the Weimar Republic).  When the population remains very productive and the debt is actually quite small (e.g. the debt is only $19 trillion in the USA but the productive capacity of the people is that much or more per year), then the society is not failed. We are going to see transition to a world reserve currency. This is not about total failure of government, except Europe is trying hard to achieve that again. China, Russia, USA, Canada, Australia, etc are no where near failed societies.

There is nothing new in the concept of world reserve currency. It can have many components this time, this doesn't change anything in how individual countries manage their economies and their budgets. Individual countries are pretty bad. For bankrupt ideology we have the welfare state. The productive population is shrinking, the liabilities of the governments are growing, you even said this yourself up thread, and there comes a point where society fails unable to bear the weight of liabilities. Enter hyper inflation.

I have read quite a lot of Armstrong, I don't agree with everything.

What is happening is the productive people are breaking free from the unproductive. This is why we need a world reserve currency that no country can abuse.

The elite are doing creative destruction on the nation-state central  banks and currencies. But the productive sector will refuse to become socialists. My X gen is giving the middle finger to that.

Socialism is failing. Those with that ideology will fail. It is not an ideology held by everyone not like in Weimar Germany when everyone was tears and in love with the almighty Socalists and then Hitler. Those who disagreed, were unable to mount any defense nor defection.

I suggest you review this post about Texans and Texas:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1049048.msg14621869#msg14621869

trollercoaster had a similar post about rural Australians.

The Internet makes it possible for us to communicate to each other. Ideological, propaganda shit can't be hoisted on us who are awake. Trump is proving many people are awake. They read blogs.
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