Theymos' opinion is that scammers are just fine and don't get a tag as long as they don't do the scamming on the forums.
coinjedi's signature says: Bets of Bitcoin http://betsofbitco.in/That means he's linking to his operation in every post. How is that not "scamming on the forums"? He's using the forum to post links to a site which refuses to pay out rightful winners. Pirate had a website which he linked to from the forums as well. Does that mean he wasn't scamming on the forums? Nope it isn't. It may be a technicality but the bet was made on their own website with their own terms..... Everyone that took the bet, took the terms with them! And they changed the goddamn terms. Jesus Christ, how simple does it have to get.
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"WTF SUM RANDOM GUY THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO RELATION TO BITCOIN TWEETED "CP in blockchain?!?!""
"OMG!" And now we hit this stage.
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Theymos' opinion is that scammers are just fine and don't get a tag as long as they don't do the scamming on the forums.
Or if they pay advertising fees to do their scamming on the forums, like BFL.
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Usually, liars and bullshit artists feel persecuted when they are exposed for what they are. Ever considered a job as a projectionist?
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Late to this party because I had no stake. Agree that the bet should have been "true", but no evidence exists that CoinJedi was not using his best judgement when he made this a draw. Honest or not, it shows that his "best judgment" is not worth shit. This means the site is unreliable. Maybe it will pay out when you make a bet. Maybe the site will just cheat you out of your winnings instead. You can't really be sure. All a betting site has is its reputation. This site's reputation is, or should be, gone. I wouldn't bet a bitmill there at this point.
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What makes you think Satoshi isn't entirely capable of defending his own honor, if he's upset about this?
It's possible that THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. just entered his name and details into the by-laws and makes it appear that Satoshi endorses THE BITCOIN FOUNDATION, INC. Additionally, they admit they have locked Satoshi out of the forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186939.msg1943004#msg1943004His account is locked, so no. If he wants to claim his account, he'll have to contact me with a PGP signature.
So you seriously think Satoshi is too retarded to use PGP if he wants to? Or sign a message using the key from the genesis block? This is such a complete non-issue.
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I believe this is a solution looking for a problem. While many mainstream economists point to volatility, the deflationary nature of the currency, and other aspects of Bitcoin as bad things, those are actually the unique qualities of Bitcoin that make it desirable to, well, the people who desire to use them. Whether or not Bitcoin becomes "mainstream" is basically irrelevant to me so long as it remains useful for the things I use it for.
Some of these issues are issues which, with government-backed currency, led to the abandonment of the gold standard. However, Bitcoin doesn't have this problem. Nobody is obligated to participate in Bitcoin who does not want to, and those who do are fine with these "problems." If people prefer fiat currency, they'll use that. I would imagine the vast majority of Bitcoin users use some combination of fiat currency and Bitcoin and routinely convert between the two as convenient.
If there is anything "revolutionary" about Bitcoin, from a political perspective, it is not that it will obliterate fiat currency or instantly do away with the Fed, or whatever various factions of Bitcoin supporters want it to do immediately. However, by competing against fiat currency and having its own set of characteristics that make it desirable, it creates pressure against states to abuse their powers over fiat currency too much. After all, there is now an alternative.
I also don't see the currency being outlawed successfully. To the extent this is all computer code, it is protected speech under the human rights laws of most so-called "civilized" countries. While I can see attempts to outlaw it, they will be as successful as the attempts to outlaw cryptography have been. I.e. some states will try to do it and meet with little to no success, while challenges to the laws on constitutional grounds will win.
Just as actually banning cryptography would render a nation's businesses completely vulnerable to having their trade secrets stolen, once Bitcoin is seen as useful by businesses, and it eventually will be, attempts to outlaw it will not only face organized opposition from the people, but from the corporations who, by and large, own much of the government. This is one area where we'll basically be on the same side, and even an oppressive government can't win against that kind of coalition.
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What makes you think Satoshi isn't entirely capable of defending his own honor, if he's upset about this?
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It's idiotic. A Ponzi is a very specific kind of scam. People keep just randomly calling every goddamn thing they think is shady a Ponzi. Words have meanings, people.
At least it marks someone as a person whose opinion can safely be ignored when they cluelessly throw around words like that.
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Also after the stuff up with the last bet like this I think I am well within my rights to be a bit nervous as to how "fairly" this will be decided?
They'll probably have Puke-Jr go to their office and take a photo of him with a glass jar of pickled jalapeno peppers, and then say they delivered Jalapenos.
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So a house hold of about 17 2/3%. What generous odds.
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I don't have time to argue. Won't be returning here again, bye!
That's like the third time you've said that. You are apparently as skilled at leaving as you are at playing poker. Don't worry, though, in an abundance of helpfulness, I have employed the "Ignore" feature so I will see none of your further drivel.
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I read something about "provably" a way to make it verifiable that the cards are random. Have you read up on that? Do you believe that would solve the problem of online gambling?
No. The rigged clowns would just insist the "provably fair" method was rigged and all the math guys who said it wasn't were all in on the conspiracy, etc. etc. etc. There is no reasoning with these morons. Also, any time I have seen a collection of hand histories from some rigged claimant, and usually they don't have the balls to post ALL their hand histories, they play like shit, think they're entitled to win every hand where they start with AA, etc. etc. etc. It's just whining by bad players.
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Send in the shills. There have to be shills. 20 post newbies appear Descend from the hills. . .
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Well played, sir.
I have to say it's really great to see one of these stories with a happy ending for a change. This is how it should be more often.
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2) Charging people 100% for a pre-order; this is also considered very bad business when nothing exists or is in the pipeline. BFL should consider adopting a 10% or 20% down payment IF people would get the miners within a month. This would sound more reasonable imo.
That's what a real company with actual capital would do. What BFL appears to have done is collected a bunch of money premised on the concept that there was an actual device in the pipeline, then gambled they'd get enough money to actually get through the development cycle before people panic and start demanding their money back in droves. That's not really a business model, so much as it is a scam. That's even if they somehow bumble their way through the process of backing into delivering some kind of device at some point.
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Josh where are you? Come and post some dumb shit so we can all make fun of you so you hopefully finally decide to do god a favor and abort your failure of a life.
Not cool, no matter what. It's not any worse than the psycho troll shit Josh has posted here.
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Do you believe Bitcoin will rise while the dollar falls? If so, the price of bitcoin reaching $10,000 by the end of 2016 is not that huge of a leap (1000+% gains on average for the past 4 years means over $10k/BTC by 2015). If you bet just .5 BTC (about $60 at current rates) on this: http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=1532I don't trust that scam site.
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You just keep doing that! Bless your heart!
But if you're not going to have any BTC any more perhaps you should stop offering to buy stuff for BTC in multiple lines of your sig.
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I don't see why people are so hostile to the OP. After all, for any speculative bubble to be profitable to someone, someone else has to be fool enough to buy high and sell low. As they say in poker, don't tap the aquarium, it scares the fish.
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