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June 08, 2023, 03:49:26 AM
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Serie A season 2022/23 have been over and Napoli as the winner, here latest standings position and teams qualify to Champion League, Europe League and Conference League next season. Still good news for Juventus's fans after their teams got points deduction and can finish on 7th standings position as the last placed for qualifying to UEFA Conference League next season.

Champion League Group Stage teams
  • Napoli
  • Lazio
  • Inter Milan
  • AC Milan

Europe League Group Stage teams
  • Atalanta
  • AS Roma

Conference League
  • Juventus


Actually, Serie A teams has chance for playing one more slot to Champion League and Europe League, but failure from AS Roma and Fiorentina made both teams failed to play in Champion League and Europe League next season, actually for Fiorentina after losing over West Ham last night made their opportunity close for paying in Europe League.

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June 08, 2023, 04:01:49 AM
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I agree with you. If a group gradually becomes stronger. Then it has a long shelf life. The way the Roma team has performed in the last two seasons is absolutely commendable. Their squad was not very strong. Still, they managed to perform quite well
Roma did not spend enough money to build up their squad and with this, having 2 final matches in Europe just within 2 seasons is impressive. They even could win the Europa League final if luckiness and referee stand with them.

I expected Roma to win the Europa League final. But unfortunately, they could not win. If luck was with us, maybe the Roma team would have won the Europa League. They managed to perform well in the finals as well. A small mistake made them lose.

Now if Roma management prepares a decent fund to bring in new players and strengthen the team. Then maybe next season Roma team will aim to win the title. But the problem is that Roma management is not interested in building the team by spending a lot of money.
Anyway the final match already ended and they lost, so they have to move on with a new season. That will begin with this summer transfer and with a first big brick for their plan, will Jose Mourinho stay with them or leave?
It is clearly that Jose is very important for their success in last two seasons and he has one more year in the current contract but he told publicly that he needs more money to buy more players. The current squad is not strong enough and more important, lack of deepth. Injuries can destroy Roma competitiveness and impact their standing in Serie A as well as their plans for Europa League next season.

Mourinho needs more money to strengthen his squad. And it's true. Roma's attack is still not strong enough. We have seen Roma's erratic performances in Serie A due to the weakness in attack. If the Roma management cannot pay Mourinho enough money to buy players, Mourinho may leave the team. Because it is not possible to win the title with such a mediocre team. Mourinho will definitely want to win the title.

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June 08, 2023, 04:08:18 AM
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It's a real shame for Cremonese, they just got promoted to Serie A this season and in the same season they were relegated again. Maybe those who don't know Cremonese are looking forward to returning to Serie A after waiting for 26 years and in the end they have to be willing to return to Serie B next season.

The series of bad results they got this season made them unable to survive in the Italian highest competition and all the efforts they have made so far have been in vain. I hope Cremonese can bounce back and hope they can be more established if they want to return to Serie A later.
At the beginning of season Cremonese only able to collect 7 points from 18 matches and it makes Cremonese owner have to sacked their previous coach Massimiliano Alvini and Davide Ballardini was appears as new coach and he was contract until 2024 season but apparently Ballardini also can't do much for this team because under him Cremonese still displayed poor performance

Cremonese has win from Salernitana in the last match with scores 2-0 but unfortunately this result cannot help them because since week 36 Cremonese has been decided to relegated to Serie B and 5 wins and 21 lose during this season that was poor records and it makes Cremonese have to relegated because Cremonese only have 27 points and nothing they can do because they cannot keep up and compete against other teams in Serie A

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June 08, 2023, 04:20:27 AM
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I know Napoli will not have the same performance at all and they are going to have problems because many players are going to leave this team next season but more than anything I'm worried about their young players like Osimhem because he is still young and he can have an unstable situation and if he makes wrong decision for next season and were going to see another start falling otherwise can have the chance to play in top team and earn great achievement with these teams.
I think there is a higher possibility for Osimhem to join Bayern Munich more than other teams.

I don't think, Napoli coach will allow Victor Osimhen to leave the team next season than to make everything he need available so that he can spend more season to keep the team stronger so that they can perform better in next season. Based on the arrangement on ground, show that Napoli president is fully ready to show all the Napoli players love so that they will believe that Napoli president cherish their performance they displayed to maintain the first position in the Italian league competition table through out the season. I don't think, Bayern Munich have such amount of money to pay Victor Osimhen like the amount Real Madrid want to pay young striker like victor Osimhen, if he can join the team next season.

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June 08, 2023, 04:31:27 AM
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It's a real shame for Cremonese, they just got promoted to Serie A this season and in the same season they were relegated again. Maybe those who don't know Cremonese are looking forward to returning to Serie A after waiting for 26 years and in the end they have to be willing to return to Serie B next season.

The series of bad results they got this season made them unable to survive in the Italian highest competition and all the efforts they have made so far have been in vain. I hope Cremonese can bounce back and hope they can be more established if they want to return to Serie A later.
At the beginning of season Cremonese only able to collect 7 points from 18 matches and it makes Cremonese owner have to sacked their previous coach Massimiliano Alvini and Davide Ballardini was appears as new coach and he was contract until 2024 season but apparently Ballardini also can't do much for this team because under him Cremonese still displayed poor performance

Cremonese has win from Salernitana in the last match with scores 2-0 but unfortunately this result cannot help them because since week 36 Cremonese has been decided to relegated to Serie B and 5 wins and 21 lose during this season that was poor records and it makes Cremonese have to relegated because Cremonese only have 27 points and nothing they can do because they cannot keep up and compete against other teams in Serie A
Cremonese will find it difficult to compete in Serie A and that's what they always face only occasionally when they can play in Serie A they can perform better but usually they will only last a few seasons in Serie A and will return to a division where they have played more namely Serie B.
It's not easy to build a team that is strong and competitive, strong finances are the key, without big money, any team will only be a complementary team.
So when Cremonese changed theirs manager it wouldn't help and make a significant change, but they were pretty good in the Coppa Italia because they reached the semifinals but were knocked out by Fiorentina but they managed to get rid of Napoli and AS Roma and that was their best achievement, the rest of their ranking tells how it really is this team.

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June 08, 2023, 05:30:22 AM
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I agree with you. If a group gradually becomes stronger. Then it has a long shelf life. The way the Roma team has performed in the last two seasons is absolutely commendable. Their squad was not very strong. Still, they managed to perform quite well
Roma did not spend enough money to build up their squad and with this, having 2 final matches in Europe just within 2 seasons is impressive. They even could win the Europa League final if luckiness and referee stand with them.

I expected Roma to win the Europa League final. But unfortunately, they could not win. If luck was with us, maybe the Roma team would have won the Europa League. They managed to perform well in the finals as well. A small mistake made them lose.

I also had hope that Roma would win the Europa League this season but it's a shame they lost on penalties.
But at least they have performed quite well and are satisfying because they made it to the final to fight for the title against Sevilla.

For the Italian Serie A, Roma played not so satisfactorily, they even had to finish this season with only 6th place.
Maybe next season Mourinho can correct some of the mistakes of Roma so that he can perform even better in the several leagues he will be running.

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I agree with you. If a group gradually becomes stronger. Then it has a long shelf life. The way the Roma team has performed in the last two seasons is absolutely commendable. Their squad was not very strong. Still, they managed to perform quite well
Roma did not spend enough money to build up their squad and with this, having 2 final matches in Europe just within 2 seasons is impressive. They even could win the Europa League final if luckiness and referee stand with them.

I expected Roma to win the Europa League final. But unfortunately, they could not win. If luck was with us, maybe the Roma team would have won the Europa League. They managed to perform well in the finals as well. A small mistake made them lose.

I also had hope that Roma would win the Europa League this season but it's a shame they lost on penalties.
But at least they have performed quite well and are satisfying because they made it to the final to fight for the title against Sevilla.

For the Italian Serie A, Roma played not so satisfactorily, they even had to finish this season with only 6th place.
Maybe next season Mourinho can correct some of the mistakes of Roma so that he can perform even better in the several leagues he will be running.
from the 2018/2019 season. AS Roma can only be in the European League places, they cannot improve to be in the Champions League zone. I personally have a different assessment of AS Roma this season, yes, by limping they can still be in 6th place, which is not a bad result in my opinion, yes, although it cannot be said to be a good result either. But at least they can still be in the European competition.

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June 08, 2023, 06:25:42 AM
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Mourinho needs more money to strengthen his squad. And it's true. Roma's attack is still not strong enough. We have seen Roma's erratic performances in Serie A due to the weakness in attack. If the Roma management cannot pay Mourinho enough money to buy players, Mourinho may leave the team. Because it is not possible to win the title with such a mediocre team. Mourinho will definitely want to win the title.
makes sense. improving Roma performance this summer requires serious discussion between Roma officials and the coach to be able to build a stronger team in the big league later.
I'm not saying Roma are too bad in Serie A, it's just that last season they were too focused on UEL and the achievement was almost successful in reaching the final round, it's just that Sevilla might be stronger in terms of experience.
I just hope Mourinho is given the freedom to decide which players to replace because I believe there is a good plan for Roma.

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Good things are built over time, look at my beloved Atalanta, until a few years ago they were in the lower part of the standings and if we go back they went up and down from Serie B
Now he's in the top tier and participates in the European cups
this is how it is done
in this way team become strong like rock

I agree with you. If a teams gradually becomes stronger. Then it has a long shelf life. The way the Roma team has performed in the last two seasons is absolutely commendable. Their squad was not very strong. Still, they managed to perform quite well. Now if Roma management prepares a decent fund to bring in new players and strengthen the team. Then maybe next season Roma team will aim to win the title. But the problem is that Roma management is not interested in building the team by spending a lot of money.

so you agree with me, leaving now (I mean Jose Mourinho) seems to me a really silly choice
besides, I don't expect intelligent things from someone like him
my estimation towards him is close to zero
in the market you can find better at better prices

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June 08, 2023, 07:08:37 AM
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I agree with you. If a teams gradually becomes stronger. Then it has a long shelf life. The way the Roma team has performed in the last two seasons is absolutely commendable. Their squad was not very strong. Still, they managed to perform quite well. Now if Roma management prepares a decent fund to bring in new players and strengthen the team. Then maybe next season Roma team will aim to win the title. But the problem is that Roma management is not interested in building the team by spending a lot of money.
Building a strong team must cost money. A team can never be made strong and beautiful without spending money. And yes in this case 'Roma' is not at all interested in spending any money on the team due to which Roma cannot win the title despite being very strong. I think next season Roma need to strengthen the squad to win the title. And they must bring in stars to strengthen this squat. If Roma can bring in stars and strengthen the management then surely they can win the title next season.

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June 08, 2023, 08:12:59 AM
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I agree with you. If a group gradually becomes stronger. Then it has a long shelf life. The way the Roma team has performed in the last two seasons is absolutely commendable. Their squad was not very strong. Still, they managed to perform quite well
Roma did not spend enough money to build up their squad and with this, having 2 final matches in Europe just within 2 seasons is impressive. They even could win the Europa League final if luckiness and referee stand with them.

I expected Roma to win the Europa League final. But unfortunately, they could not win. If luck was with us, maybe the Roma team would have won the Europa League. They managed to perform well in the finals as well. A small mistake made them lose.

I also had hope that Roma would win the Europa League this season but it's a shame they lost on penalties.
But at least they have performed quite well and are satisfying because they made it to the final to fight for the title against Sevilla.

For the Italian Serie A, Roma played not so satisfactorily, they even had to finish this season with only 6th place.
Maybe next season Mourinho can correct some of the mistakes of Roma so that he can perform even better in the several leagues he will be running.
Yea,that was what we all thought  because Mourinho is their coach but from the match,what I understood was that it is not the coach that will play the match but the players. Roma players performed tiredly towards the end of the match and this brought poor result which led to penalty. Roma need to buy more players to help keep the match force and also they should have a good substitute to always assist when it is needful. I believe that Roma must have learn from their mistake this season and will work things out next season so that they can be able to win a trophy. That lost in the final brought a stain to Mourinho  clean sheet of unbeaten in Europa league.
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I know Napoli will not have the same performance at all and they are going to have problems because many players are going to leave this team next season but more than anything I'm worried about their young players like Osimhem because he is still young and he can have an unstable situation and if he makes wrong decision for next season and were going to see another start falling otherwise can have the chance to play in top team and earn great achievement with these teams.
I think there is a higher possibility for Osimhem to join Bayern Munich more than other teams.

You'd be surprised if you knew that Osimhen had decided to leave Napoli, right? It can't be denied that when a rising star leaves, it hurts like hell, especially if they were your favourite player. If Osimhen joined your squad, do you think they wouldn't feel a surge of energy, like a charged bolt, from the spark he'd provide? However, we need to slow down for a second. Do you not believe that the young genius needs a stable environment in which to reach his full potential?

Now things begin to take an intriguing turn. Think about this: The top dog at Napoli is thinking about covering Osimhen in a protective shield and giving him all the tools he needs to do his job and stick to his word. Yes, it's reassuring to think about. This strikes me as a potentially astute move for the team's continuity into the upcoming season.

Although rumours of Bayern Munich's entry have been circulating, can they really hope to compete financially with giants like Real Madrid?

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June 08, 2023, 08:30:35 AM
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It's a real shame for Cremonese, they just got promoted to Serie A this season and in the same season they were relegated again. Maybe those who don't know Cremonese are looking forward to returning to Serie A after waiting for 26 years and in the end they have to be willing to return to Serie B next season.

The series of bad results they got this season made them unable to survive in the Italian highest competition and all the efforts they have made so far have been in vain. I hope Cremonese can bounce back and hope they can be more established if they want to return to Serie A later.
The point is Cremonese are not ready enough to survive the fierce competition in Serie A. So it is only natural that they will be relegated again in the same season when they started to return to Serie A. But maybe next season Cremonese will also return to Serie A with much better preparation .

Cremonese only has 5 wins, 12 draws and 21 losses from a total of 38 matches. and that of course would be very painful for all members of the club. It's just that they can certainly use their experience this season to improve the quality of their team in the next opportunity. And for now they must first focus on being the best in Serie B which will also restart later.
I think Cremonese are not ready to accept competition between teams in Serie A so they get unexpected results, they even accept reality again after only surviving one season in Serie A. I think the possibility of returning to Serie A is still small considering Cremonese's abilities are only this limited only and I think they deserve more to return to Serie B for a few seasons before they are really ready to return to Serie A because even if next season they succeed in promotion it will only be a waste of time with the maturity of their current squad. It seems like there will be a lot of things for them to think about and it will make them mentally stronger.

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I know Napoli will not have the same performance at all and they are going to have problems because many players are going to leave this team next season but more than anything I'm worried about their young players like Osimhem because he is still young and he can have an unstable situation and if he makes wrong decision for next season and were going to see another start falling otherwise can have the chance to play in top team and earn great achievement with these teams.
I think there is a higher possibility for Osimhem to join Bayern Munich more than other teams.

I don't think, Napoli coach will allow Victor Osimhen to leave the team next season than to make everything he need available so that he can spend more season to keep the team stronger so that they can perform better in next season. Based on the arrangement on ground, show that Napoli president is fully ready to show all the Napoli players love so that they will believe that Napoli president cherish their performance they displayed to maintain the first position in the Italian league competition table through out the season. I don't think, Bayern Munich have such amount of money to pay Victor Osimhen like the amount Real Madrid want to pay young striker like victor Osimhen, if he can join the team next season.
Victor Osimhen contribution is valued by the Napoli coach who plans to keep him on for the forthcoming campaign. The team competitiveness and strength are priorities for the president who is entirely dedicated to meeting those needs. This action confirms that the president genuinely recognises the team accomplishment in attaining the top spot in the Italian league competition standings. Bayern Munich might be interested in Osimhen but it unlikely that they can match the cash package Real Madrid might give. The president dedication to Napoli and the team success shows a strong desire to keep Osimhen on board and improve the team. The president wants to foster an atmosphere where players feel appreciated and motivated therefore he offers assistance and resources.

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June 08, 2023, 09:04:03 AM
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Victor Osimhen contribution is valued by the Napoli coach who plans to keep him on for the forthcoming campaign. The team competitiveness and strength are priorities for the president who is entirely dedicated to meeting those needs.
Victor Osimhen is very important for Napoli in the past two seasons and this season is a greatest achievement for him individually and for Napoli as a team. They won a first Scudetto after more than 30 years and went to Champions League semi finals.

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Bayern Munich might be interested in Osimhen but it unlikely that they can match the cash package Real Madrid might give. The president dedication to Napoli and the team success shows a strong desire to keep Osimhen on board and improve the team. The president wants to foster an atmosphere where players feel appreciated and motivated therefore he offers assistance and resources.
Bayern Munich is a big club and one of most successful club in Champions League, a most successful club in Bundesliga. However they are in rebuilding time and just won Bundesliga luckily with a very late goal of Musiala and fault from Dortmund. Osimhen might not interest in joining Bayern Munich because Bundesliga is not a more interesting league than Ligue 1 or Serie A. If Osimhen want to move to a new league, a new club, he will aim at Premier League or La Liga.

At Premier League, many rich clubs will open their arms and abundant budgets with the Nigerian striker. At La Liga, Real Madrid surely need to find a good striker to replace Benzema.

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June 08, 2023, 09:06:20 AM
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I agree with you. If a teams gradually becomes stronger. Then it has a long shelf life. The way the Roma team has performed in the last two seasons is absolutely commendable. Their squad was not very strong. Still, they managed to perform quite well. Now if Roma management prepares a decent fund to bring in new players and strengthen the team. Then maybe next season Roma team will aim to win the title. But the problem is that Roma management is not interested in building the team by spending a lot of money.

Mourinho knew the kind of job and project Roma has before taking the job. Roma is not a rich club that can spend like the other big clubs in Europe. Mourinho knows this, so he has to work with the available. Besides, Roma still spend in their own way. They got some reinforcement for Mourinho before the the season began. Dybala and Belloti are few players Roma got to add to the squad. More players will still join but it wont be high profile players. In fact I don't think any club in Italy can buy a high profile player.

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June 08, 2023, 09:29:23 AM
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A coach of the class of Jose Mourinho needs the full support of club management to do what he wants without any restrictions, and if he doesn't get that then he won't stay long in the team. Of course for a coach this is important because he can apply existing strategies without being hampered by anything, that is very good for the progress of the team. But AS Roma itself is not that easy to let its coach move alone, they are still limited in certain respects. I understand this, maybe they are hampered by something they cannot do freely, such as the club's finances for example, or other factors.
Mourinho got great opportunities at Manchester United, but this did not lead to anything, so it may not always give the expected result. I think that he will receive some kind of funding, since for two seasons in a row he took Roma to the Euro Cup finals, but this funding would be much larger if Roma won the El final and got a place in the Champions League. By the way, Mourinho decided to stay at Roma, so apparently he still got some kind of budget to strengthen the team.
Manchester United's compatibility with Mou is indeed very bad regardless of anything so he really can't do much, especially a different style of play, this is clearly a problem, but speaking of Roma, he doesn't have much difficulty because the playing style in Serie A, which has a slightly slower tempo, supports the scheme. he always tries to survive with his full defense.
Now it seems that he is still accepted by management and fans, even though there are still some negative comments about Mou's eccentricity in this regard, but so far he is still quite well-liked.

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June 08, 2023, 09:40:14 AM
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Serie A season 2022/23 have been over and Napoli as the winner, here latest standings position and teams qualify to Champion League, Europe League and Conference League next season. Still good news for Juventus's fans after their teams got points deduction and can finish on 7th standings position as the last placed for qualifying to UEFA Conference League next season.

Champion League Group Stage teams
  • Napoli
  • Lazio
  • Inter Milan
  • AC Milan

Europe League Group Stage teams
  • Atalanta
  • AS Roma

Conference League
  • Juventus


Actually, Serie A teams has chance for playing one more slot to Champion League and Europe League, but failure from AS Roma and Fiorentina made both teams failed to play in Champion League and Europe League next season, actually for Fiorentina after losing over West Ham last night made their opportunity close for paying in Europe League.

Thank you very much for the summary, you have done me a great favor
Lazio and Milan eventually managed to get into it
unfortunately my beloved Juventus has dropped a lot due to the points removed, not even the Europa League. Patience.

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June 08, 2023, 10:16:44 AM
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Jose Mourinho has a clear vision and mission and even though Roma is not a wealthy team that has a lot of money, so far the Roma team has improved a lot after the last 2 seasons when coached by Jose Mourinho
Mourinho is a very experienced coach and he has a successful career with a strong belief in his tactics. He clearly knows what he needs for his squad and he is good to boost player mentality for a common interest of the club. If a club totally supports Mourinho with his management and force their players into discipline, Mourinho can bring success to a club. His career shows this from Porto, Chelsea, Inter Milan, Real Madrid, Manchester United and Roma. When a club supports players and don't support Mourinho, bad results will come as we saw some times in Chelsea, Manchester United, Tottenham Hotspur.

Modern football with abundant money from rich club ownership gives too much power to players and managers, coaches nowadays have more difficulty to control dress rooms of their clubs. It is only harmful for a club success and if you need best example, look at PSG.

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but now Mourinho has been rumored to move to another team, there is a team that is eyeing him, namely PSG, I really regret it if the coach leaves because it is very likely that Rome will fall back if left by Jose Mourinho.
Mourinho found another successful chapter for his career in Rome with AS Roma but he is ambitious and want to get bigger success with Roma. He needs more money for transfer to buy players and build up a stronger squad. His future in Rome will depend on his meeting with Roma director board members and a promised transfer budget he gets if he stays in Rome.

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June 08, 2023, 10:28:11 AM
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Jose Mourinho has a clear vision and mission and even though Roma is not a wealthy team that has a lot of money, so far the Roma team has improved a lot after the last 2 seasons when coached by Jose Mourinho.
but now Mourinho has been rumored to move to another team, there is a team that is eyeing him, namely PSG, I really regret it if the coach leaves because it is very likely that Rome will fall back if left by Jose Mourinho.
Yes I agree with you. As Roma suited Jose to train because he had a clear vision and mission for the future of As Roma. It can be proven that in the era of Rudi Garcia, Montella, and Spaletti, As Roma did not fix As Roma from a slump. It was only in this era that he won the conference. Coaches like Mou are given a little money from As Roma, they can still upgrade. Dybala might have wanted to come to As roma because there was Jose Mourinho, if not there, Dybala might have gone to Man United at that time.

But if As Roma are still stingy not to spend money and don't bring in other top players, there is no mistaking the rumors that Jose Mourinho going to PSG is a good choice.

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