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I am interested with the part of your statement where you said the management has solid background and track records. I didn't dig deep enough, but quickly strolling past your website didn't seems to show any section about team details. Can you please help on this matter?
I also learned that your twitter page has been around since 2020, is this means your project has been existing since 2020 too?
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Your allocation for team and partners are very interesting, each of them got 25% and 20%, locked for 6 months, with gradual unlock of 5% every month. Did my math get rusty or a project who tried to sell their products turns to be very bad at math?
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And your project (whichever the name you give for the internet service) is the one providing the connection? I mean, you provide both the device and the "mobile data" instead of providing only the device (minter guardian) which act as a MiFi and relies on existing ISP like T-Mobile or Sprint for the internet provider? If so, how do you enforce this global internet service? Because far as I know, even large companies like google with their Google Fi couldn't even reach the entire global-wide service yet.
So your not providing free internet service? In fact, you're not providing internet service at all, let alone worldwide reach, and your customer are not dissociated with their ISP, given to use your service they still need to subscribe to their regular ISP. Wasn't that means your statements below is rather misleading?
Ok, I understand your point of view and I understand why you say it's misleading, but let's look at it from another perspective: if you have the possibility of connecting automatically to the internet from a Minter Guardian hotspot, without being prompted for a username or password, can it be called free internet? I think some context is needed here. The subject you're talking about as the ones with possibility to automatically connected to the internet from Minter Guardian (a MiFi device that requires subscription from third party ISP), are they the same person who owned the device, or are you referring to other people (a passerby on the street or a random someone who happen to sat next to the device owner on a subway?). If the case here is the former, then no, I wouldn't call it a free internet. They still have to pay for the annual subscription. If the case is the latter, then yes, it'll be a free wifi, but it'll open to a whole new list of questions, like how secure will it be both for the device owner and the wifi user to connect to random devices? How willing are the device owner for random people to piggybacking their subscription, what's in it for them? |
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I don’t see any problems, everyone has false alerts, the project is clear that it’s not bad, I’ll be watching
The above post shows a scan result with a trojan detection. Although there is yet any specific info about the trojan in subject, it doesn't change the fact that their file is not clean enough. What I am more interested is why you feel the need to create an alt new account just to make the statement? |
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And your project (whichever the name you give for the internet service) is the one providing the connection? I mean, you provide both the device and the "mobile data" instead of providing only the device (minter guardian) which act as a MiFi and relies on existing ISP like T-Mobile or Sprint for the internet provider? If so, how do you enforce this global internet service? Because far as I know, even large companies like google with their Google Fi couldn't even reach the entire global-wide service yet.
As mentioned in the OP, Xiden represents a new layer of internet. This does not mean we are the internet service providers providers. To clarify, the Minter Guardian is, at its core, a router using an external ISP, to which we added a validator function for the XDEN digital tradeable asset. If you have a device registered on the network, it will benefit from the WiFi function of the Minter Guardian, whenever it enters the hotspot's range. So your not providing free internet service? In fact, you're not providing internet service at all, let alone worldwide reach, and your customer are not dissociated with their ISP, given to use your service they still need to subscribe to their regular ISP. Wasn't that means your statements below is rather misleading?   Archiving your webpage for future reference |
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So basically a MiFi, only with a blockchain integrated into it? And all of it is free (including the MiFi device itself and the annual subscription) as well as working worldwide? For example if I am an Hawaiian having a trip to Australia, my Xiden will still works perfectly?
No. Xiden is the blockchain. The Minter Guardian device, which is what generates the hotspot and validator pool, is not a free device. When you purchase this device, it comes with 1000 locked XDEN (the native asset of the Xiden blockchain). You start unlocking XDEN gradually by validating transactions with the Minter Guardian and any other devices you integrate in its validator pool (called the KrateR Pool) in order to boost its power. All those devices will be registered on the network and if you take one of those on your travels, as you mentioned in your example, it will automatically connect to any other Minter Guardian hotspot in its range, which includes internet access. And your project (whichever the name you give for the internet service) is the one providing the connection? I mean, you provide both the device and the "mobile data" instead of providing only the device (minter guardian) which act as a MiFi and relies on existing ISP like T-Mobile or Sprint for the internet provider? If so, how do you enforce this global internet service? Because far as I know, even large companies like google with their Google Fi couldn't even reach the entire global-wide service yet. |
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First thing first, the numbers of newbies bumping and shilling this thread is worrying. If your project is really legit and good, you won't need those bumping accounts. While for your project details, how will this free internet works? Through wifi? Worldwide?
Hello. Yes, the project is legit and to answer your question - if you have a device registered in the network, it will automatically connect to any Minter Guardian hotspot it finds, anywhere in the world, without password. So basically a MiFi, only with a blockchain integrated into it? And all of it is free (including the MiFi device itself and the annual subscription) as well as working worldwide? For example if I am an Hawaiian having a trip to Australia, my Xiden will still works perfectly? |
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You are not wrong there. But what´s your suggestion? Do you want to check/control every posted/to post meme on the platform? You cannot blame a platform for providing a place to upload things there.
I am not going to check/control every posted meme on the platform, because even if I will or did, there's nothing I can (or will) do. The problem that might arose is between the original meme owner (e.g. Sammy Griner "the success kid" or Laina Morris "the overly attached girlfriend") and the meme poster. As for my suggestion, obviously is not to try earn through the platform, especially as the platform already confirms (and wash their hand of) the legal implications and most likely won't assist you when it really comes down to the court. Posting on 9gag or IG is probably a light case because you didn't get any money through it, thus the legal infringement (maybe) is lighter. Posting with the aim to monetize a copyrighted content, though, is a whole different case. |
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Be as it may that you serve a noble cause, I'm failed to see how will your token model works at all. The patients or visitors doesn't need to have or hold your token to get the free consultation, correct? So the only source of buyers are those who intended to sell at higher price, namely: trader.
Assume we have one trader buying 1,000 your token priced at (let's assume) 0.4 USD and he sold them at 100 USD and it is the highest order. Your system dictate that you'll have to buy all of his token (100,000 USD) before you can buy other tokens at lower price. As your buying power come from 35% of the revenue gained from ads, it'll take forever to fill those buy order. And we're not discussing the snowball effect when people keep increasing their sell order price to be filled, 100 USD will be 1,000 USD, and then 1,000,000 USD, and so on until finally the token is non liquid because it is "hyper inflated" and you don't have enough capital to fill the buy order
1- Ads: With 3 million visitors per month, the expected return on advertising will be $60,000 per month, which will go to a minimum of $25,000 to buy PRTN from the market. 3 million is our first target, we aim to reach more than 3 million later. 2- Due to the presence of heavy traffic, many companies will want to put advertisements directly in our platforms such as medical companies and food....... Paying for these ads and marketing articles will be using PRTN. 3- Virtual clinic visitors who are advised to eat certain healthy foods will be passed to our store. For example, breast cancer patients will be advised to take kefir, beetroots and Matcha Tea. They will be advised to buy from our store using PRTN to pay. The aim of this is to ensure that visitors receive high quality goods at the best possible price with using PRTN as a payment system. ----Is it possible to reach 3 million visitors to our platforms per month? Easily in the future this number can be reached and the reason is that these platforms cover a wide range of keywords that start with medical topics and end with anyone looking for the PRTN Token. Also the traffic that will be forwarded from the PRTN community towards the platforms through competitions. ------ Are we going to fall under the effect of a snowball? No - The team will always sell parts of the Tokens that it has purchased or from the wallets it holds for various purposes such as developing a own blockchain, supporting chronic disease patients in purchasing expensive medicines or supporting medical research..... This will make PRTN Chart very good for Traders. and help to keep good volume in Markets. Ok, a nice explanation of your (other) source of funds, but it doesn't necessarily tackle the issue I propose, you're still subjected to the snowball effect... although calling it a snowball effect is probably not entirely correct. It's more to a "reverse snowball", if you may. Your situation goes uphill instead of downhill, in a bad way. Let's assume with an extreme case to emphasize the situation: you can make 1B USD worth of profit to buyback, and holders can still put their order at 1M USD for 10,000 token, bringing the total value of 10B USD, and you still have to buy them before you can fill the lower cheaper sell order because that's what your system dictate. And we'll go to another "reverse-snowball-in-a-bad-way" situation. 1M USD per token became 10M, 10M became 100, and so on. I am more than happy to buy 1,000 of your token right now, and I'll put the price for 1M for each token. I'll be effectively cut your buyback flows for years (assuming I'm the highest asker), it'll be like a good (early) retirement paycheck, I'll get everything you earned every month. |
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What's the legal implications for this meme monetization? Just like what I pointed out on another meme based project a few days ago, meme is protected by copyright, and just by posting those meme themselves for fun, let's say like in 9gag or others, is (as far as I can conclude from the snippets of explanation I quote below) a violation against the content owner's right. I could imagine how ugly it could turn to be with the case of monetized recycle. Memes are protected by copyright law. This means that the creator of the meme has special rights in the meme.
Although it may not seem like it – the reuse of a meme, whether by posting or sharing – violates copyright law. And the fact that often times the creator of a meme is unknown does not absolve the individual’s infringement or prevent the creator from enforcing their copyright.
Well I did ask one of the team members regarding this topic: "Knorry | NEO afaik copyright issues are with the creators/imposters, not the platform on which they post/repost you can sue someone that uses a picture of you on twitter to promote their article cant sue twitter but most memes have copyrighted material in it, as they are usually illegal derivative works using some other original work as their foundation." You can also downvote one, if you don´t like the meme - or in worst cast - theres a copyright violation. This way he/she cannot make money with it at least. Additionally there is a report function in the NUDES discord, mostly for gore/nsfw memes. But I think it´s for copyright violation too. Nevertheless thanks for pointing out this topic, I guess there is still room for improvements. Maybe it's just me, but the way I read it, they seemed to washing their hand of the legal implications. As they state themselves, the platform (namely them, "NUDES") are not sue-able, while the poster (namely you and other users) are subjected to the copyright infringement if the original content owner escalates the case to the court. |
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~snip~
Hey there, I´ll try to answer some of the questions as a dedicated $NUDES community member:
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"People just go from one meme token to another, do you think there is something here that will make people stay on this platform?"
Well with meme-to-earn you can already earn some money (I don´t think you can become a millionaire though, but who knows).
As for the non-content creators (the normal users): In the next version of the website people can do different tasks to earn $NUDES - for example daily login or take a look at 10 different memes.
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What's the legal implications for this meme monetization? Just like what I pointed out on another meme based project a few days ago, meme is protected by copyright, and just by posting those meme themselves for fun, let's say like in 9gag or others, is (as far as I can conclude from the snippets of explanation I quote below) a violation against the content owner's right. I could imagine how ugly it could turn to be with the case of monetized recycle. Memes are protected by copyright law. This means that the creator of the meme has special rights in the meme.
Although it may not seem like it – the reuse of a meme, whether by posting or sharing – violates copyright law. And the fact that often times the creator of a meme is unknown does not absolve the individual’s infringement or prevent the creator from enforcing their copyright.
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Since the OP is just a participant of this project, why do you think this project is worth to watch out for?
I did not Since it is a meme token, what would be the outstanding feature of this project that will possibly make this survive?
None People just go from one meme token to another, do you think there is something here that will make people stay on this platform?
I don't The question basically serves as a way to inform readers a point they might missed, a logic they failed to catch amidst the "FOMO" of getting free tokens which lure them to buy the first hundred tokens which will later became worthless. Let's turn the table, do you think it is useless and I shouldn't try to point these out to inform (and help) other people? Edit: oh, it is occured to me that your question is addressed to the OP and not me. On that case, good questions. |
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~snip~ How did it all start
Ask not what NUDES can do for you, but what you can do for NUDES.
All human beings deserve to send NUDES, thus all human beings deserve to receive NUDES.
Every time you send at least 100 NUDES to a wallet, you will receive 1,000 NUDES. If the wallet you send NUDES to is brand-new with 0 NUDES, you will receive 100,000 NUDES.
Additionally, every time you send 0.069 GAS to someone so they can get started with sending their own NUDES on Neo N3, you will also receive 1,000,000 NUDES.
To receive the 1,000,000 NUDES, the address you send the 0.069 GAS to must have 0 GAS when you send it.
As you can see, sending NUDES is not just a funny but also a rewarding way.
~snip~ How is this healthy for the tokenomy and the price growth? Basically you encouraged people to dump as they'll get much more than what they initially buy. It'll ends up on either the token has a very low price due to the constant dump or the order book got frozen as no one buys anymore because they get an abundant amount of NUDES. |
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Sorry, I don't think I understand correctly. A slippage is a difference between the expected amount and the real amount earned on each transaction due to the volatility of crypto price. For example, I want to sell 1,000 MOOX at 0.1 BUSD each, the expected total amount will be 100 BUSD. However, due to the price volatility, my token's rate is valued at average 0.095, which gave me around 95 BUSD, and the slippage is around 5%.
The point here is, if my understanding is correct, slippage happened due to a price volatility and its rate is rather not fixed. So how do you exactly determine that your slippage is 15%? Wasn't it like fixing a price to be 15% higher and lower than what the investors buy and sell?
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First thing first, the numbers of newbies bumping and shilling this thread is worrying. If your project is really legit and good, you won't need those bumping accounts. While for your project details, how will this free internet works? Through wifi? Worldwide?
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Said the queen of poor projects and exit-scam as she thinks of other projects she could publish to trap unlucky people, only to be abandoned later. Say, why don't you put your concern elsewhere that's more needed, like... your own thread and the plea about its price that keeps going down? Here, let me quote the inquiry posted on your very own thread that you "missed" because you're too absorbed in other project's "drama". hi dev any info updates for projects? price keeps dropping  |
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Let's see if these points are correct:
1. You offered a service of free healthcare consultation.
2. On your platform, there will be ads, which would generate income, which 50% of it allocated to fund the free healthcare consultation.
3. 35% (or is it 30%?) of the income generated from the ads will also be used to buyback from the highest sell order.
1- Yes, we already started publishing articles for cancer patients and any one can ask doctors for help through Service Section, still under development but working for now. 2- Monetizing Platform not only for Ads, there will be an affiliate marketing and Shop ... will publish the road map and our vision soon 3- 35% will be used to buyback from highest sell order and maybe burning those amount or freezing it for long time. 4- All project still underdevelopment, we started publishing here to gain backlinks (SEO) and help search engines to discover and understand us. 5- One of our missions for this project is helping patients, especially Cancers patients. Be as it may that you serve a noble cause, I'm failed to see how will your token model works at all. The patients or visitors doesn't need to have or hold your token to get the free consultation, correct? So the only source of buyers are those who intended to sell at higher price, namely: trader. Assume we have one trader buying 1,000 your token priced at (let's assume) 0.4 USD and he sold them at 100 USD and it is the highest order. Your system dictate that you'll have to buy all of his token (100,000 USD) before you can buy other tokens at lower price. As your buying power come from 35% of the revenue gained from ads, it'll take forever to fill those buy order. And we're not discussing the snowball effect when people keep increasing their sell order price to be filled, 100 USD will be 1,000 USD, and then 1,000,000 USD, and so on until finally the token is non liquid because it is "hyper inflated" and you don't have enough capital to fill the buy order |
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~snip~
NOTE: For your questions and suggestions about the project, please contact us via telegram or discord. I'm not very active on bitcointalk.org.
So hire a community manager. Although telegram is very convenient for quick response, there are essential info needs to be made "permanent" through posting on the forum. And honestly, that is not an excuse. If you're really serious with your project (and suppose you didn't want to hire a CM), you'll make time to visit this thread for few minutes or so. I don't think it'll take 30 mins daily to update everything regarding the project here |
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How do you plan to make a meme as NFT while the original meme material themselves are copyrighted to the original owner (not the creator)? Memes are protected by copyright law. This means that the creator of the meme has special rights in the meme.
Although it may not seem like it – the reuse of a meme, whether by posting or sharing – violates copyright law. And the fact that often times the creator of a meme is unknown does not absolve the individual’s infringement or prevent the creator from enforcing their copyright.
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Let's see if these points are correct:
1. You offered a service of free healthcare consultation.
2. On your platform, there will be ads, which would generate income, which 50% of it allocated to fund the free healthcare consultation.
3. 35% (or is it 30%?) of the income generated from the ads will also be used to buyback from the highest sell order.
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