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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Arezdag World on: April 18, 2022, 04:27:57 PM
Hey guys, we're in the process of setting up all the social media. Now the main task is the development of the game. There will be our own blockchain. As we prepare all the necessary information we will post it here.

I don't think I understand this. So you're basically currently has no working gaming platform, no whitepaper, no social media, and barely functioning webpage? Does the token sale already ongoing, though?
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KYNNO - Sold Out 2 Million Special Sale Tokens in Less Than 48 Hours on: April 16, 2022, 07:13:53 PM
Hi Mike,

I am Simo Kynno's CEO.

The executive team is fully doxxed and it is the definition of a doxed team, we could have simply not mentioned anyone else if we did't see it fit and legitimate like many projects.

Plus, not everyone is a Linkedin expert, also except for me who spends a lot of time on my profile the other members aren't that well versed but it doesn't remove anything to their experience and technical expertise in Software development and Blockchain.

For the others, for privacy reason they didn't want their family names revealed to the public and as one of my team members explained earlier they are not all full-time members but some are working with us on a part-time basis.

If you have constructive questions feel free to ask or to follow our upcoming AMAs to see who is the team through video.

Finally, we are not here to justify ourselves against false accusations and defamation and our legal team led by our Attorney Mr Mehdi Benseghir - https://benseghirpartners.com will get in touch with BitcoinTalk Legal team and the authorities if necessary in order to take the legal steps against any account defaming our project and team to raise a case for defamation, false accusation and allegations.

Best,



Ok, as I am not here to irk and dig (well, not really) how about this for a solution to prove that the team are indeed a team: group photo.

Almost every company have this, and it'll be easily prove that those people are really working for the company (the company logo will be visible on the photo, for sure) it won't necessarily reveal those staffs' family name and it doesn't matter if they're part time or a full timer, a group photo does no harm to them.

Although an AMA session with several of your staffs will be adequate enough to prove the same way a group photo will (if not stronger), not many people could attend the AMA due to the timezone difference and life schedules. A group photo can always be easily added to your website and this thread as a proof of employment.

To address your final note about defamation, do I understand correctly that you're referring to the scam accusation raised against your project? That is due to the findings of a trace of plagiarism on your whitepaper? This forum heavily frowned upon plagiarism as the action are mostly a good indicator of a scam project (if you're really serious with your project, you'll be extra perfectionist that you'll screen everything you display to the public and will not make that kind of error).

The scam accusation thread serves as a thread to inform people of the recent findings as well as to mediate the existing situation with the project owner, this is why most frequently than not (as shown here, done by @Saisher) the acussed will always be informed of the existence of the thread to allow them to explain their situation. The thread is not necessarily defame you, if you can prove yourself to be... not guilty (for the lack of better term) of the points in the accusations by providing counter-evidences, the thread starter will always be more than happy to be proven wrong and close the thread. In other words, the scam accusation thread can neither be exactly concluded as a false nor correct accusation until the findings served on the thread be thwarted by counter evidences or (as how it mostly happens to a scam project) the devs went AWOL from the forum as they're caught red handed on their attempts to scam people.

Take in mind that the thread's very purpose is to fight scam (which is more than plenty in cryptospace) and not to prevent or make it difficult for legit project to enter cryptospace. If you're truly legit and can prove yourself, all you need to do is provide those evidence on the accusation thread. Legal action is rather excessive, IMO. But if you think that's the best course to take, and if (dare I assume from the way you react) your company policy to everything is by legal action before mediation, then please, do what you want to do.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Arezdag World on: April 16, 2022, 02:43:36 PM
Not much information to go through with your announcement thread. You should've at least included the website. https://arezdagworld.com/
BTW, Links on the website itself seem to be not working. Links for like Telegram, Discord, and Youtube channel. You should fix that.

It's not "not working", it looks like the links themselves are just a placeholder without any hyperlink attached to it. Looks like a very very very premature project. I wonder if that's the reason why they didn't announce their website yet
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KYNNO - Sold Out 2 Million Special Sale Tokens in Less Than 48 Hours on: April 16, 2022, 02:35:19 PM
Kynno’s Strengths.

Kynno is built by a fully doxxed team of seasoned professionals with 30+ years of combined experience in Tech, Blockchain, Marketing & Business. It is also following a deflationary model to decrease the circulating supply of its token as time goes by through buy-back and burning mechanisms.

Where is this info about doxxed team? I looked at your whitepaper, I don't think a "Mehdi - Chief Legal Officer" could pass something we call a dox. We can't even check the past work and history of those people because they're just a cluster of name (one single name, not even full name that'll help us google them) and image, none of them are clickable to a hyperlink of their LinkedIn or other social media. Basically, we can't prove if Mehdi is really exist or you just grab an image of someone touching a bookshelf with those judge-y clothes from somewhere and call him Mehdi.
Hello, thank you for your intervention.

I understand your legitimate questions about the team. You must know and understand that the very foundation of Kynno is carried by Simo, Nilton and Ahmed. Concerning the rest of the team, some of us only intervene for specific missions, apart from our team of developers who are in full time.

Your comment will help us to improve by providing the LinkedIn of each full-time team member. Concerning the CLO, he is part of the team, we will add all the necessary evidence to reassure our future investors.

We invite you to follow the evolution of Kynno to quickly become aware that Kynno was born to become the reference in managing the data of each individual with security and control.

Stay Tuned Kynnauts


I am not talking about your CLO exclusively, I'm referring to the whole team. The CLO is just one of the name I randomly picked to show how shallow your definition of doxxed is.

Nilton Rodrigues, for instance, whom you claimed has 10 years of experience in soft development, but a quick search of "Nilton Rodrigues software developer" seemingly bears no fruits as the only results of people named Nilton Rodrigues on LinkedIn were not the person in your wp
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KYNNO - Sold Out 2 Million Special Sale Tokens in Less Than 48 Hours on: April 15, 2022, 06:07:29 PM
Kynno’s Strengths.

Kynno is built by a fully doxxed team of seasoned professionals with 30+ years of combined experience in Tech, Blockchain, Marketing & Business. It is also following a deflationary model to decrease the circulating supply of its token as time goes by through buy-back and burning mechanisms.

Where is this info about doxxed team? I looked at your whitepaper, I don't think a "Mehdi - Chief Legal Officer" could pass something we call a dox. We can't even check the past work and history of those people because they're just a cluster of name (one single name, not even full name that'll help us google them) and image, none of them are clickable to a hyperlink of their LinkedIn or other social media. Basically, we can't prove if Mehdi is really exist or you just grab an image of someone touching a bookshelf with those judge-y clothes from somewhere and call him Mehdi.
46  Other / Archival / Re: 🌍 [ANN] The DecentraWorld Ecosystem | Restoring Privacy And Financial Freedom🚀 on: April 15, 2022, 05:55:21 PM
With no data stored and a complete privacy, wouldn't this platform pose a possibility to be misused by bounty cheaters to hide their tracks? One sure factor that many alt-buster utilize to determine the connection between several accounts are the transactions between wallets, if this tracker can be bypassed, I can't imagine how many alt-cheater will be rejoiced
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Whisper MSG | Ultimate Secure Messenger with Digital Wallet on: April 13, 2022, 03:42:20 PM
~snip~
To address your comment and engage you into the conversation though, it is not on the realm of impossibility that people scammed unknown people through the app. There are many instances for this on telegram (an app which allows you to prevent people that is not in your contact or didn't know your username from reaching you) where strangers texted people and lure them with fake offers.

Now, those scammers get the scammed people's contact through their username scattered around the cryptospace (bounty form, posts on forum, social media bio), so it is not too impossible that one day, in case the app became popular (also stated on the initial post as the basis of my concern) like telegram, this IDs on Whispers can also be scattered around the net and cryptospace, and being misused by scammers.
I'm not a dev of this messenger but part of the project.
Maybe I didn't get your point at first and apologize for that.
In our project, there is no roadmap for a group chat service. It is just a p2p messenger and deleting the messages as you check or reply to the messages.
Is that a sufficient answer to your concerns?
I'm not here to offend you, answering with my full respect. Thank you.

O.G. you are a representative of the project, you entered the scene with a bang. As you've been here, I think you can address the matters at hand as shown on the snipped part of my post and the proposal to have a "reverse feature" where people can not delete a message.
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]✨✨ Kaiba DeFi ✨✨ Low Gas Ethereum Compatible DeFi Ecosystem on: April 12, 2022, 06:02:04 PM
You are on ERC, right? And you tries to solve the high gas fee problem. But, wasn't the problem kinda solved by ETH 2.0? One of their feature is an efficient gas fee, and it'll make your selling point obsolete.

Eth 2.0 is very far away, still
More , our plans include the launch of KLC , the gasless chain, and consequently many instruments multichain that are well beyond gas saving (which remains a core point at the moment)

With integration and stress test happening here and there, and many crypto media announcing that the merging will happen soon, I am not sure whether to ask you about your definition of "very far away" or how updated are you with crypto developments or both.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Whisper MSG | Ultimate Secure Messenger with Digital Wallet on: April 12, 2022, 05:57:18 PM
What have u just ate that it made ur brain run amok with sending false signals to ur mouth to get it to spur this gibberish? U press confirm when u see the incoming transfer of coins into ur wallet. That is where u confirm receiving of the coins on ur part. How hard is that to fathom. I will make an infographics to lay that out for u.

It would make sense if you put it that way (to confirm an upcoming transaction), yes, but if you look at their mockup, you'll see that the button is on the instant messaging page and not on transaction or wallet page, indicating a feature that allows us to confirm (whatever that is) an incoming chat.

I think it is not for the transactions but for the message. I think hitting "confirm" will trigger the auto-delete function of this app. The message is deleted permanently.
While "Send" is for when you have a response and want to, well, send.  Cheesy

I've tried their app and there's a different tab for the wallet wherein you can see your mVOLR balance and wallet address along with its QR code.

When you've added a friend, they'll be listed on the homepage. Clicking their profile will allow you to either send a message (whisper) or send actual crypto.

I'll upload some screenshots soon.  Grin

Will it also be available for a group chat? My concern from the first time I read about the project is how it will (indirectly, as I believe it's not dev's intention) affect cryptocommunity.

If they boomed like telegram and became the media of preference to communicate between tokens dev and their investors, the capabilities to wipe out entire chat clean (which... more or less is like what telegram could) without a trace would lure scam projects to utilize the platform to scam people and then wipe it clean.

Personally, I didn't agree with TG's new feature to prevent screenshot. As we all know, a screenshot is one of the preferred proof on this forum, and TG is effectively (and indirectly) helping scammers with this feature. IMO, what we need (from instant messaging side) is not a feature to wipe clean a chat as almost every IM service has this feature, but rather an option to make a chat undeletable

My question is, what is Whisper's insight about this?

How people can use it to scam as there is no group chat, and no one can add as a friend unless they share their QR code or the address?
I mean in what circumstances do unknown people try to scam others they don't know?
The only situation I can figure out is when one user shares his QR code asking to invest or send assets. Is it the situation you concerned about?


I hope you're not the representative of the project that @julerz12 asked to be present and address the concerns here, because if you are, then I am allowed to questions your intelligence (and from it, the project itself).

The very first sentence indicated that the writer (that's me) didn't know if the app will cater a group chat like many other IMs or not. Hence, he asked, and further explained why the topic matters to him. With this as our reference, your post became completely pointless as it didn't contribute to the matter at hands.

And further (still in assumption that you're one of the dev) you didn't announce or made any statement that you'll only have person-to-person chat, not even in the future on within your roadmap. And if (which I actually doubt) you as part of the team think your user will automatically know about this, then I am once again allowed to question your intelligence.

So yes, I think we can safely assume (and hope) you're just a random newbie trying to engage in an conversation. For this case, I'll suggest that in the future conversations, you better read the whole conversation (or at least two or three posts on topic) to know if what you said is still relevant or even passable as a conversation starter, because with this post, you're rather beating the dead horse.

To address your comment and engage you into the conversation though, it is not on the realm of impossibility that people scammed unknown people through the app. There are many instances for this on telegram (an app which allows you to prevent people that is not in your contact or didn't know your username from reaching you) where strangers texted people and lure them with fake offers.

Now, those scammers get the scammed people's contact through their username scattered around the cryptospace (bounty form, posts on forum, social media bio), so it is not too impossible that one day, in case the app became popular (also stated on the initial post as the basis of my concern) like telegram, this IDs on Whispers can also be scattered around the net and cryptospace, and being misused by scammers.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Whisper MSG | Ultimate Secure Messenger with Digital Wallet on: April 11, 2022, 03:39:21 PM
Will it also be available for a group chat?
I don't think so. So far, I've only seen 1:1 chats. Even when you add a contact, you can only scan 1 contact address.

As for the rest of your concerns, I'd let the team answer that.  Grin

~snip~

Current security features are biometrics and a Pincode. You can back up your wallet's Mnemonic code too if you wanted.

I wanted to try myself, but maybe you can help so I don't have to... install them on my phone to try myself, hahaha (sorry, old phone, it always runs out of memory to install new apps). Does the confirm button works like you guessed (to confirm a transaction)? Or do it trigger another thing?
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Whisper MSG | Ultimate Secure Messenger with Digital Wallet on: April 11, 2022, 06:11:20 AM
What have u just ate that it made ur brain run amok with sending false signals to ur mouth to get it to spur this gibberish? U press confirm when u see the incoming transfer of coins into ur wallet. That is where u confirm receiving of the coins on ur part. How hard is that to fathom. I will make an infographics to lay that out for u.

It would make sense if you put it that way (to confirm an upcoming transaction), yes, but if you look at their mockup, you'll see that the button is on the instant messaging page and not on transaction or wallet page, indicating a feature that allows us to confirm (whatever that is) an incoming chat.

I think it is not for the transactions but for the message. I think hitting "confirm" will trigger the auto-delete function of this app. The message is deleted permanently.
While "Send" is for when you have a response and want to, well, send.  Cheesy

I've tried their app and there's a different tab for the wallet wherein you can see your mVOLR balance and wallet address along with its QR code.

When you've added a friend, they'll be listed on the homepage. Clicking their profile will allow you to either send a message (whisper) or send actual crypto.

I'll upload some screenshots soon.  Grin

Will it also be available for a group chat? My concern from the first time I read about the project is how it will (indirectly, as I believe it's not dev's intention) affect cryptocommunity.

If they boomed like telegram and became the media of preference to communicate between tokens dev and their investors, the capabilities to wipe out entire chat clean (which... more or less is like what telegram could) without a trace would lure scam projects to utilize the platform to scam people and then wipe it clean.

Personally, I didn't agree with TG's new feature to prevent screenshot. As we all know, a screenshot is one of the preferred proof on this forum, and TG is effectively (and indirectly) helping scammers with this feature. IMO, what we need (from instant messaging side) is not a feature to wipe clean a chat as almost every IM service has this feature, but rather an option to make a chat undeletable

My question is, what is Whisper's insight about this?
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Helena.Financial | Auto-Compounding DeFi 3.0 Protocol | 1,000,365% APY on: April 10, 2022, 12:08:18 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but an elastic supply means you can add or remove certain amount of tokens according to the current market situation, right? Wouldn't it make burning 33% of the supplu a bit useless? Team can always create new tokens to replace the burned token "due to some reason".

Not at all, by burning 33% it shows commitment to the community and they can't just be added back without any communication or reason Smiley
~snip~

Sorry, I think you understand what I intended to ask wrongly, I'm not questioning the team's commitment, rather the burning system and the purpose/benefits behind it. Wouldn't burning be rather useless due to the elastic supply? Or is there some mechanism that we don't understand?
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Helena.Financial | Auto-Compounding DeFi 3.0 Protocol | 1,000,365% APY on: April 09, 2022, 01:37:21 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but an elastic supply means you can add or remove certain amount of tokens according to the current market situation, right? Wouldn't it make burning 33% of the supplu a bit useless? Team can always create new tokens to replace the burned token "due to some reason".
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Shiba Coffee Token - For coffee and crypto lovers on: April 09, 2022, 11:16:30 AM
Funds from the sold tokens and part of the tokens will be used to increase liquidity (more detailed information will be added to tokenomics). Part of the funds will be directed to the purchase of cafe shops and to enter into partnerships with coffee shops. We offer cafe shops mutual advertising, putting their coffee shop on a Shiba Coffee Token map, and this is also not a problem if coffee shops accept BTC, ETH or BNB along with our token. All this contributes to the popularization of cryptocurrencies.

I beg your pardon? You intended to buy coffee shops? Like buying the physical building that serves coffee? Like... (let's say) buying "central perks" and "CC Jitters"?

Yes, we are planning to buy small coffee shops, but for now we are thinking about how to do it right and it may be necessary to register a brand and much more. These are only plans so far, this will be the next stage in the development of our project.

That'll make your project and token a security token, since your token holder will earn a dividend based on the amount of token they have in proportion to the profit gained of the project's asset in real world. And far as I know, you'll need to be compliant with govt. (like SEC and such) and your buyers will need to have some license too.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: PornRosy Token, the twin sister of Rose telegram bot on: April 08, 2022, 05:14:28 PM
Quite an irony, isn't it? That you tried to mock the current trend of scam meme and NFT projects by creating the exact same one as the projects you tried to mock. I guess the line between mocking and following trend is rather blurred on several points.
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MGC Manhattangoldcoin.com with TVC Triviacoin.me SOLO MINABLE ON LAPTOP on: April 08, 2022, 04:02:13 PM
I know you said you need to be creative on the website, and as a strong proof of it, your website is beyond bare. You've been around for three years, wouldn't it be enough to at least hire someone to do a less-than-minimum design? It feels like you've been inactive for those years and only now picked them up from where you leave them
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Whisper MSG | Ultimate Secure Messenger with Digital Wallet on: April 08, 2022, 03:54:05 PM
What have u just ate that it made ur brain run amok with sending false signals to ur mouth to get it to spur this gibberish? U press confirm when u see the incoming transfer of coins into ur wallet. That is where u confirm receiving of the coins on ur part. How hard is that to fathom. I will make an infographics to lay that out for u.

It would make sense if you put it that way (to confirm an upcoming transaction), yes, but if you look at their mockup, you'll see that the button is on the instant messaging page and not on transaction or wallet page, indicating a feature that allows us to confirm (whatever that is) an incoming chat.
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Whisper MSG | Ultimate Secure Messenger with Digital Wallet on: April 07, 2022, 03:34:09 PM
What's the difference between "confirm" and "send"? I can't think an instance when people confirm a chat other than what's on the realm of business like "i confirmed I've receive the document. Thanks." But never in a casual conversation I meet a situation where you need a special feature to confirm. If it's about a meet up or something alike, wouldn't a "ok" or "sure" enough?
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]✨✨ Kaiba DeFi ✨✨ Low Gas Ethereum Compatible DeFi Ecosystem on: April 06, 2022, 04:54:06 PM
You are on ERC, right? And you tries to solve the high gas fee problem. But, wasn't the problem kinda solved by ETH 2.0? One of their feature is an efficient gas fee, and it'll make your selling point obsolete.
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Shiba Coffee Token - For coffee and crypto lovers on: April 05, 2022, 04:20:37 PM
Funds from the sold tokens and part of the tokens will be used to increase liquidity (more detailed information will be added to tokenomics). Part of the funds will be directed to the purchase of cafe shops and to enter into partnerships with coffee shops. We offer cafe shops mutual advertising, putting their coffee shop on a Shiba Coffee Token map, and this is also not a problem if coffee shops accept BTC, ETH or BNB along with our token. All this contributes to the popularization of cryptocurrencies.

I beg your pardon? You intended to buy coffee shops? Like buying the physical building that serves coffee? Like... (let's say) buying "central perks" and "CC Jitters"?
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