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861  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Venezuela For you, the token of the change (V4U) on: March 30, 2019, 08:35:50 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, your plan to help Venezuela is by airdropping ERC-20 token (V4U) to their citizens, which valued roughly 10 USD?
862  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 💰💰 AZ Token has a $1 USD Buyback Guarantee on: March 30, 2019, 08:24:51 AM
With 0.8% (that is 0.008) of the withdrawal fee allocated for buyback, while the value of the buyback itself is at almost 100% from initial investment, how long do you predict the buyback will ends?
863  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] 🤖Aitheon: DIGITAL ECOSYSTEM SIMPLIFYING YOUR WORLD w/ A.I, ROBOTS on: March 29, 2019, 12:03:30 PM
We had a deal. No KYC for bounty.

Unfortunately not all projects comply with deals they make, they always guarantee the right to change the rules, probably because they have the premeditated intention of changing them in the future.

And to this day no one knows how much it will receive or even if it will receive something...

It was due to the massive expansion on their project or something like that, based on their explanation on telegram. SEC require them to have every token holder to be verified.
864  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISTED ON a EXCHANGE] EMPIREHOTELS | The Future of Hospitality on: March 28, 2019, 01:46:25 PM
Is it still active?

Short answer: hopefully no.

Long answer: You better hope it is not active anymore, it's not clear who the dev are on this thread, but the accounts that's actively promoting the thread were no longer posting on their behalf, as you can see on their history.
865  Economy / Gambling / Re: Powerball at MatchBillion.com - Jackpot 750 million MBL + 2 BTC on: March 28, 2019, 01:45:36 PM
It's more than that. As explained on https://www.matchbillion.com/how.html , there are rewards for 100 ETH and 2 BTC for the winners. You can see that funds are available in those wallets.
Actually it is 10ETH reward for 5 numbers and 2 bitcoin for 5 numbers + Powerball and some tokens. What about other rewards? Tokens only.
Lets say if someone wins tokens, for what they can use matchbillion tokens except for buying more lottery tickets?

If they don’t hit 5 numbers or Poweball, currently they can use MBL to play next games. More games are coming soon.



I thought the lottery ticket (MBL) can be exchanged to other crypto in the very near future?
866  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [ASK] Aturan dan Besaran Pajak Cryptocurrency Tahun-Pajak-2018 on: March 27, 2019, 03:29:28 PM
Karena udah ada jawaban yang cukup meyakinkan dan memberi pencerahan, saya rasa sebaiknya thread ini saya lock untuk menghindari repetitive posts dll. Semoga diskusi amat singkat di thread ini bisa membantu teman-teman sekalian dalam pajak 2018 dan tahun-tahun selanjutnya.
867  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [ASK] Aturan dan Besaran Pajak Cryptocurrency Tahun-Pajak-2018 on: March 26, 2019, 01:41:58 PM

Sya pengen tau kronologi penerimaannya om. Apakah berupa kripto ataukah fiat?
Trus pendapatan tersebut dari satu jenis pekerjaan (bounty) atau beberapa pekerjaan ?

Berdasarkan hal ini:
Dasar Hukum: PP Nomor 46 Tahun 2013 dan PMK Nomor 107/PMK.011/2013
Segmentasi: Orang Pribadi
(Melakukan Kegiatan Usaha, Pekerjaan Bebas, dan/atau Mendapatkan Penghasilan Lainnya)

--snip--

Dapetnya dari 1 project sih, dan murni dari hunting, ga ada dari investment di ICO dia. Sisanya selama 2018, kena scam semua, LOL. Begitulah hidup, balance; sesekali bahagia, sesekali menderita.

Jadi, kalo misal kronologinya seperti ini, gmn? (Bukan angka sesungguhnya, saya lebihkan untuk tau gambaran extreme)

Saya join bounty hunting HoweyCoin dan dapat 10 Howey. Dua bulan kemudian, saya jual 8 Howey dgn rate 1 Howey = 10 ETH, dan kemudian saya jual ETH ke IDR dgn rate 1 ETH = 10,000,000 sementara sisa 2 Howey muter" di exchange buat tunggu moment ATH.

Dari sini, saya as per February 2018 dapet 8 Howey x 10 ETH x 10,000,000 IDR = 800,000,000 IDR. Dan di tahun itu tidak ada transaksi crypto ke fiat lagi. Maka, pajak yang berlaku:

Code:
A.
800,000,000 - 50% = 400,000,000

50,000,000 x 5% + 250,000,000 x 15% + 100,000,000 x 25%
= 2,500,000 + 37,500,000 + 25,000,000
= 65,000,000 IDR

atau

Code:
B.
800,000,000 x 1% = 8,000,000
868  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ORYX TOKEN on: March 25, 2019, 08:04:25 PM
Judging from his post history, I would suggest you to simply ignore his post, I'm pretty much sure his account is a spam or begging account, given that his posts are merely for airdrops or insubstantial posts on random threads.
seems like that, alright forget him


We're sorry
We were just in the development stage

The white paper V2.0 is ready where you can take a quick look at the project.

http://oreyx.online/Whitepaper/

Sorry for the delay in a reply.
ahh.. You say whitepaper like this is ready Cheesy
it looks like you'e not mature in preparing to run the project



so where exactly is your project whitepaper Huh

Actually... the link brought me to a page of whitepaper. And by it, I mean a page stating several random things around whitepaper, while maintaining their style of messy page layout. The document in subject itself is MIA
869  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [ASK] Aturan dan Besaran Pajak Cryptocurrency Tahun-Pajak-2018 on: March 25, 2019, 11:20:30 AM
Terima kasih buat beberapa jawaban dan masukannya, sampek bantu research artikel-artikel pajak. Sebenernya saya udah sempat DYOR sekitar Januari lalu, tapi ga yakin juga dengan hasil temuan saya karena kayaknya topik ini memang agak langka.


Kemudian untuk aturan pembayarannya

Tarif PPh 21 dijelaskan pada Pasal 17 ayat (1) huruf a Peraturan Direktur Jenderal Pajak Nomor PER-32/PJ/2015. Tarif PPh 21 berikut ini berlaku pada Wajib Pajak (WP) yang memiliki Nomor Pokok Wajib Pajak (NPWP):
Penghasilan tahunan sampai dengan Rp 50 juta adalah 5%
Penghasilan tahunan di atas Rp 50 juta - Rp 250 juta adalah 15%
Penghasilan tahunan di atas Rp 250 juta - Rp 500 juta adalah 25%
Penghasilan tahunan di atas Rp 500 juta adalah 30%
Untuk Wajib Pajak yang tidak memiliki NPWP, dikenai tarif pph 21 sebesar 20% lebih tinggi dari mereka yang memiliki NPWP.


Sedikit tambahan, dari apa yang saya pelajari di kelas pajak semester 3 jaman kuliah dulu (diulang di semester 5 dan 7 supaya huruf di IPK bisa berubah Grin), buat teman-teman yang mungkin juga mau bayar pajak crypto tapi trus shock sama persentase nya, tarif PPh ini bersifat bertingkat, artinya, misalkan kita ada penghasilan 500 juta, maka bukannya langsung pukul rata 500,000,000 x 30%, tapi

Code:

 50,000,000 x  5% +
250,000,000 x 15% +
200,000,000 x 25%

Dari DYOR saya kemarin, saya menyimpulkan kalau bounty hunting lebih masuk ke arah freelancing, dan saya cari info tentang PTKP (penghasilan tidak kena pajak) freelance supaya nilainya lebih ramah, ternyata diarahkan search engine ke artikel tentang NPPN (norma perhitungan pajak netto) dengan besaran 50% dari total pendapatan freelance kita.

Jadi, jika diasumsikan tadi dapetnya 500,000,000, maka perhitungannya jadi

Code:
500,000,000 x 50% = 250,000,000 (besaran pendapatan yang dianggap kena pajak)

sehingga...

 50,000,000 x 5% +
200,000,000 x 15%


Ada yang bisa bantu confirm apakah kebijakan pajak NPPN yang saya pakai itu benar dan berlaku buat bounty hunter?
870  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀🚀🚀[ANN] THE FIRST ANTI-AGING COIN IN THE WORLD 🚀🚀🚀 on: March 24, 2019, 10:46:17 PM
Hello, I am representative of icoholder.com company.

You have been selected and added to icoholder.com. Find your project on our website and go through verification to add more information.

https://icoholder.com/en/anti-aging-coin-28926

What is the process of getting selected by icoholder.com? Does every project get selected or do you really "select" projects?

Oh, their selection process is very tight. You know, to ensure that every project listed on their platform will successfully bring wealths to the dev team. Mostly, their "selection" process involving their team to refresh their browser page to see if there any new project that's not on their platform yet, and then they'll work very hard to type the announcement of listing on said project's thread, and voila! get listed. Extremely hard, isn't it?

By the way, the legitimacy of any project is not the major point on their mind. They'll just... "select" random project with little to no research of their own, gathering questionable reviews around the internet, gave biased rating, and when community busted the project, they'll add an update about "sorry, turns out it is a scam project, L-O-L. Not our bad."

For anyone interested of icoholder's trust: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1206615
871  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ORYX TOKEN on: March 24, 2019, 07:22:51 PM
Good project with a good team.  I am looking forward to the ICO. I hope it will be a big hit. Hope day by day developing this project.
 I am interesting this project, good luck.

Are you kidding? where can you see team information Huh I don't see anything on website and I also don't have a whitepaper for this project, if you see information I'm looking for, please share it with me

Judging from his post history, I would suggest you to simply ignore his post, I'm pretty much sure his account is a spam or begging account, given that his posts are merely for airdrops or insubstantial posts on random threads.
872  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / [ASK] Aturan dan Besaran Pajak Cryptocurrency Tahun-Pajak-2018 on: March 24, 2019, 07:19:41 PM
TL;DR: Apa regulasi pemerintah terkait pajak crypto untuk bounty hunting dan berapa besarannya?

Periode pembayaran pajak 2018 tinggal seminggu lagi dan saya kian pusing dengan pajak yang harus saya sampaikan. Selama ini ga pernah lapor pajak karena belum bikin NPWP. Tapi, karena suatu kebutuhan, sekitar setengah tahun lalu saya akhirnya punya NPWP dan semakin dekat dengan akhir Maret, mbaknya kantor pajak kian rajin SMS saya buat ingetin bahwa saya belum lapor pajak 2018.

Menurut beberapa diskusi di sub forum indonesia, dengan yang terakhir update November 2017, crypto belum termasuk ke dalam mata uang sehingga sifatnya belum terikat oleh pajak. Tapi, berdasar artikel Januari 2019, beberapa aktivitas crypto dikenai pajak, dimana salah satunya adalah menjual crypto ke mata uang nyata.

Kalau menurut persepsi awam (dan pembelaan diri) saya, pajak crypto lebih buat para trader yang menjual dan membeli crypto secara rutin dan berkala, tapi saya ga yakin juga nih, maka dari itu saya mau nanya di sini, buat bantuan pencerahan menghadapi mas dan mbak pajak minggu ini ketika saya laporan. Ada yang tau tentang aturan pajak buat bounty hunting, kah? Atau mungkin malah punya pengalaman bayar pajak 2018 untuk aktivitas yang terbatas pada bounty hunting (saya amat jarang trading di tahun ini dan tahun sebelumnya)?

Di 2017 sampai Q1 2018 kemarin saya ikut bounty dengan penghasilan yang amat sangat lumayan (menurut pendapat pribadi saya), dan sudah saya tukarkan ke bentuk IDR, sehingga kalau merujuk pada artikel wartaekonomi, seharusnya aktivitas itu masuk ke dalam kategori Kena Pajak, tapi saya ga tau masuk ke dalam kategori pajak apa kegiatan bounty hunting itu (freelance kah?) dan berapa persen besaran pajak yang harus dibayar atau malah ga masuk sama sekali?

Mohon bantuannya.

P.s.: mohon maaf sebelumnya kalau topiknya agak berulang, saya sadar dan sudah tau ada beberapa thread diskusi tentang pajak crypto di subforum Indonesia, tapi thread terakhir di update per 2017, dan bukan tidak mungkin aturan udah diperbarui sama pemerintah.
873  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]EducationCOinOnline(EDCO)|POS+25% MN+75% reward|cryptobridge on: March 24, 2019, 11:48:55 AM
the Explorer link doesn't work? This does not happen))) Another bubble..

You just stole the project idea from the project Collegicoin (CLG) . Artificially overpriced is not cool..👎👎👎

Funnily, I also followed CLG project, and although they seems more promising compared to this highly questionable project, their thread is not extra active either, isn't it?

I've been following the CLG project from the beginning. Yes, I agree their thread on the forum a little active. They do not make advertising of the product to the time until the development of online education platform.

Yes, a fact I am well aware of. If I may satisfy my curiosity, are you part of the CLG team or something alike? It is brought to my attention that more than 75% of your post are on their thread or around the sake of advertising them.
874  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀🚀🚀 MatchBillion.com 🔥 HOT BOUNTY $1,000,000 🔥🚀🚀🚀 on: March 23, 2019, 10:18:39 PM
Hi, umm... Just making sure, there were no board limitations? Every post on any board and sub-board are counted?
875  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ORYX TOKEN on: March 23, 2019, 06:23:19 PM
So far, there is little information about your project. We are waiting for more. The site can not yet qualify for a demonstration tool, but it says that it is in development. Question. Why submit is not quite finished product.

This, I would second this.

I can't grasp any idea of your project's aim from this thread, so I take a look at the site and find a complete mess instead. Barely any info and jumbled words repeated over and over, it almost feels like your site is very far from ready, or maybe your project itself is far from ready.
876  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]EducationCOinOnline(EDCO)|POS+25% MN+75% reward|cryptobridge on: March 23, 2019, 12:22:33 PM
the Explorer link doesn't work? This does not happen))) Another bubble..

You just stole the project idea from the project Collegicoin (CLG) . Artificially overpriced is not cool..👎👎👎

Funnily, I also followed CLG project, and although they seems more promising compared to this highly questionable project, their thread is not extra active either, isn't it?
877  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀🚀🚀 MatchBillion.com 🔥 HOT BOUNTY $1,000,000 🔥🚀🚀🚀 on: March 22, 2019, 11:07:57 PM
#Proof of Authentication
Bitcointalk username: Miiike
Telegram username: @Mi_iike
Campaign: Signature

878  Economy / Gambling / Re: Powerball at MatchBillion.com - Jackpot 625 million MBL + 2 BTC on: March 22, 2019, 02:32:40 PM
I... got confused, and think I better ask here as this thread is more "neutral" and official. I found that you have two simultaneous signature campaign,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119519.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5122209.0

with complete set of different CM, different rules, different payment rate, and different spreadsheet. Any help on this?

I don't understand what makes you confuse, both campaign are official campaigns as long as I know. The one managed by Hhampuz is the fixed payment rate and participants get paid in ETH + MBL token while the other one is like a bounty campaign that pays in MBL token which will be distributed based on the total stake earned by participant. Obviously both has different spreadsheet as both are different campaign but for 1 project.


Ahh, just wondered if the other one is also official. Now that it is clarified, all's good
879  Economy / Gambling / Re: Powerball at MatchBillion.com - Jackpot 625 million MBL + 2 BTC on: March 22, 2019, 12:09:55 PM
I... got confused, and think I better ask here as this thread is more "neutral" and official. I found that you have two simultaneous signature campaign,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119519.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5122209.0

with complete set of different CM, different rules, different payment rate, and different spreadsheet. Any help on this?
880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀🚀🚀 MatchBillion.com 🔥 HOT BOUNTY $1,000,000 🔥🚀🚀🚀 on: March 22, 2019, 09:53:52 AM
Can you inform me how long will this campaign last? The details on the beginning of thread indicate it'll only be for 3 weeks? And how long after the end of bounty will the payment be distributed? And... KYC?
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