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1361  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2017, 05:33:49 AM
if btu get more hash it will become btc period~ the old chain will get ditched quick! lol :-D weee

what BU needs is more support in general.
1362  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: @RogerVer lets make a deal. At least 60k, my BTU for your BTC. on: March 22, 2017, 06:57:27 AM
Can't we make a pool of people who want to make the deal and Roger can just absorb all that by himself?
Yes, I would love to get some free BTC from Ver too.

just go to bitfinex they have a market for BU
1363  Economy / Speculation / Re: SegWit losing Bitcoin Unlimited winning -> Moon soon on: March 22, 2017, 06:32:00 AM
Is BU still planning on forking if they don't get their way on a hard blocksize fix? Or are they working towards cooperation now?

(likely I should google this .in that the above remark likely blew blood vessels of members watching this thread as they laughed at the concept of 'comprimise')

but anyway ...a hint? maybe ....someplace? of some sanity on getting this whole issue of block size fixed?

cooperation.
comprimise!
sanity!?
Bahahahahahaha!

no.

i think 90% of users and just everyone in general would want some kind of cooperation, comprimise, and sanity.
but i could be wrong.
in anycase, it doesn't seem likely
1364  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2017, 06:16:07 AM
my node crashed  Undecided

It's cool, just grab the closed source patch.

i'll just wait till a few days after the releases... for node my node is "gimped" to avoid the crash

I added a sarcasm tag in case it wasn't obvious. Bleh... test is so boring...

I would definitely not recommend anyone use a closed source patch for software holding private keys.

but its written by thezerg, trust is irrelevant, we are the zerg  Cheesy

greg maxwell: PSA: I've been able to recover the changes in this binary, and they're massive.
Among other things, they've removed all the runtime state corruption protection... so cases where nodes would cleanly and safely shut down in the event of things going wrong, turn into potential consensus splits or even remote code execution.

sheesh. Lucky BU is just a distraction from the real (miner obstruction) issue.

I read the SVN data files too, they added a way to have the asserts do (almost)nothing in release
arrests are not meant for release its a debugging tool, and an assert firing is definitely not  "cleanly and safely shut down "

but,
its obviously not clean code... after reading some of it i'm a little worried  Lips sealed

however,
i do believe the entire code base suffers from this unclean code satoshi left us with

oh well,
BUGCOIN is dead now.
1365  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2017, 04:00:58 AM
my node crashed  Undecided

It's cool, just grab the closed source patch. /sarcasm

Or he could just apply this diff that the uber coders of BU leaked inadvertently whilst releasing a binary only patch:

https://launchpadlibrarian.net/311815049/bitcoinunlimited_1.0.1.1-yakkety_1.0.1.2-yakkety.diff.gz


+Main Changes
+------------
+
+Changes are as follows:
+
+- Fix unwanted assertion Sending an invalid GET_XTHIN is a serious misbehavior and any node doing so will be DOS100 banned immediately.  Also sending a GET_XTHIN with an invalid message type will also cause the sendder to be banned. This bug cause the node to crash.
+- Fix pruning when syncing a chain for the first time. iWhen  syncing a chain with pruning enabled there are at times new blocks arriving which make the nLastHeight equal to the tip of the blockchain, however this prevents block files from being removed during pruning.  By not downloading new blocks until the chain no longer in IsInitialDownload() the issue is prevented.


i think that was lasts weeks release notes   Cry Cry Cry Cry
1366  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2017, 03:51:03 AM
btw you can configure your node to boot up with +60 connections

just find C:\Users\{USERNAME}\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin\bitcoin.conf

and add some lines like these:

Code:
addnode=136.243.139.96
addnode=99.37.197.90
addnode=54.213.163.201

i'm configuring my node to connect to all the BUtnodes
we BUtnodes have to stick together in these difficult times  Cry
1367  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2017, 03:47:41 AM
my node crashed  Undecided

It's cool, just grab the closed source patch.

i'll just wait till a few days after the releases... for node my node is "gimped" to avoid the crash

I added a sarcasm tag in case it wasn't obvious. Bleh... test is so boring...

I would definitely not recommend anyone use a closed source patch for software holding private keys.

but its written by thezerg, trust is irrelevant, we are the zerg  Cheesy
1368  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2017, 03:44:00 AM
my node crashed  Undecided

It's cool, just grab the closed source patch.

i'll just wait till a few days after the releases... for node my node is "gimped" to avoid the crash
1369  Economy / Speculation / Re: SegWit losing Bitcoin Unlimited winning -> Moon soon on: March 22, 2017, 03:39:42 AM
It is a clusterfuck. I bought ETH. LTC and XMR are other options.

ETH forking history is kinda worse though  Undecided

At least the attacker fork failed.

hard to know which one was the attacker fork  Shocked

right i was just ganna say "ehhhh ya attackers won out in the end" lol
1370  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2017, 03:37:13 AM
my node crashed  Undecided
1371  Economy / Speculation / Re: SegWit losing Bitcoin Unlimited winning -> Moon soon on: March 22, 2017, 01:13:30 AM
the war debate continues to escalate, since on one is an a position of absolute power. the power struggle is complex and very real due to bitcoin's decentralized nature.

meanwhile...
"Satoshi's design is fundamentally centralized"

lol.

My thought is the power struggle wouldn't exist if Bitcoin was decentralized.

I presume BU supporters think that their protocol will make the block size issue decentralized, but I think they are deceiving themselves. But I am not going to argue that point further to the extent of needing to write about Andrew's white paper and detailed discussions and tangents that would ensue.

And it doesn't matter any way whether I convince anyone.

Thanks for the encouragement. I don't want an undeserved appreciation. I haven't done anything worthy yet. My remarks were not intended to foster animosity.

I think i'm beginning to understand you.
I think that bitcoin is far from perfect.
but i also think that doesn't matter,
its good enough to rally behind.

we have convinced poeple to use bitcoin, we can not ask everyone to pile into some new crypto just because its "more decentralized"

I myself have toyed with SSL, i made an app that would send "coins" to 1 other app on the same localnetwork. my idea would be to do away with the miners completely. after that 1 weekend of coding, i got busy with trolling this form again  Cheesy

lets hope your better at finishing what you start then I
1372  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 21, 2017, 10:36:27 PM
ya no dont sell...

short term target is 1150 ish
mid term  target is 1800 ish
and long term is : 800$ / $500 ish  Grin



@$1400 I'm selling and instantly bid on $600

600$ corecoins?

1373  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 21, 2017, 10:13:09 PM
ya no dont sell...

short term target is 1150 ish
mid term  target is 1800 ish
and long term is : 800$ / $500 ish  Grin

1374  Economy / Speculation / Re: SegWit losing Bitcoin Unlimited winning -> Moon soon on: March 21, 2017, 09:18:17 PM
iamnotback
do let us know when your vaporware is ready to go, its always fascinating to learn about a new type of crypto
1375  Economy / Speculation / Re: SegWit losing Bitcoin Unlimited winning -> Moon soon on: March 21, 2017, 09:16:07 PM
the war debate continues to escalate, since on one is an a position of absolute power. the power struggle is complex and very real due to bitcoin's decentralized nature.

meanwhile...
"Satoshi's design is fundamentally centralized"

lol.
1376  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 21, 2017, 06:06:55 AM
who knows.
1377  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 21, 2017, 05:25:03 AM
It would seem to me that your stated goal for 'decentralization' is an increase in the number of non-mining nodes.

No.

The goal is to avoid drastic increases to the amount of information which peers are required to share between each other in order to keep the network operational along with retaining the ability to run a full node (which may be required to become a mining node (use your imagination)) on easily accessible consumer grade hardware.

I fully expect outright attacks on Bitcoin in the future. To me it seems like we've passed "peak freedom" in the civilized world, and Bitcoin is an extremely powerful tool for obtaining and maintaining individual freedom.

This is far more important to me than cheap, fast confirmations.

Besides, I have no problem with increasing transaction capacity and decreasing transaction costs through the implementations of a second layer(s) which is perfectly compatible with the above.

I'm not convinced that the people who complain about the cost of transactions (I think they are ridiculously cheap considering the utility the provide) are the type of people who care about the benefits a full node provides. The fact that comparisons are often made to centralized services (VISA, PayPal) which are nothing like Bitcoin is a prime example.

Also, I spent a lot of time and effort in the past warning about the problems that will arise due to mining pools, and did everything I could to promote p2pool, but it's pretty clear that ship has already sailed (p2pool still exists but it never got the type of support it needed to thrive). In my experience, miners hash rate providers are generally near-sighted, care little about the health of the network or the long term viability of Bitcoin, and are only there to make a quick buck in fiat profits. I'm not exactly keen on handing more control over to their bosses (actual miners, aka pool operators).
only the newbies try to compare bitcoin to VISA ( and its understandable why they do, their newbies! i bet a lot of them end up thinking bitcoin sucks because paypal is better, can't blame them they dont "get it" )

I appreciate your point of view, me i'm very "selfish" and i want bitcoin to be very successful, so that i ( any all who joined recently ) may turn a profit(held in BTC of course Smiley)

LN is an unknown and so i want to stay away from it, or at least not bank on its successes.

when I discovered BU's EC blocksize, and I came up with the idea that  "a market driven limit will yield a highly efficient TX fee market"

what's good for miners is good for me, and honestly i'm not sure what we're going to do when subsidy runs out.... so IMO creating a fee market which will yield the most Fees total ( by carefully balancing blockspace to Fee-Paying-TX's demand ) is an absolutely vital piece to the puzzle, and i'm very excited to see what BU's EC will do to the fee market; will miner double total TX fees while halving TX cost!? I believe they can!

I dont think BU indented this, the BU guys seem to like my idea, but I think mostly they we're looking to bring the fee market back to where it was in 2011 and keep it there, with 2-4-6 ... MB blocks.

But with BU's model only a few nodes and miners need to see the profit in keeping blocks small to keep them small. so i'm doing my part running my node and setting my EB low.

the BU miners will have to kick my node away every time they try to incress the blocksize  Grin

hopefully that + the idea that they will profit by keeping blocks small will keep blocks as small as they can be without hurting adoption.
1378  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 21, 2017, 01:57:02 AM
ETH collapsing bitcoin UP
1379  Economy / Speculation / Re: SegWit losing Bitcoin Unlimited winning -> Moon soon on: March 21, 2017, 12:58:04 AM
oh ic
" if miners have 51% they can be rendered immune to block propagation time. "

You have entirely not paid attention where I wrote upthread that the cartel can sign their blocks and propagate the block headers and begin mining immediately with very low propagation times. But for the non-cartel members they can propagate the entire block. That applies no matter what % of the hashrate the cartel has, even as low as 33% (or even lower).

Just because you can't assimilate all that I've written, doesn't mean I have the time to convince you about your forthcoming errors and noise.

You Bitcoin Unlimited people are not competent about blockchain technology and game theory.

Core probably got tired of repeating the same explanations and seeing your inane replies that evidenced to them that you had 0% reading comprehension.

will you stop with the superiority complex.

how about to start thinking about what you're going to say when the miners dont create huge blocks, and incress blocksize little bits at a time such that fee pressure is low-ish and relatively constant, in order to maximize fee, and ehhhhhhhh NOT destroy bitcoin.
1380  Economy / Speculation / Re: SegWit losing Bitcoin Unlimited winning -> Moon soon on: March 20, 2017, 11:34:57 PM
please tell us more about how BU is vulnerable to 51% attack.

I didn't write that. You don't even understand what I am writing. I understand why Core blocked you guys. It is impossible to have technical discussion with those who can't comprehend it. It becomes noise.

oh ic
" if miners have 51% they can be rendered immune to block propagation time. "

I didnt realize that!
i'm going to run a core node now

thanks!

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